Please permaban naim027

[JollyGood]

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It does make interesting reading to see what sort of a compulsive liar naim027 really is.

Now, maybe a stupid question, but did naim027 ever admit that those were his alt accounts? Maybe the moderators don't find the evidence convincing enough?
In any case, it would be nice if one of the moderators clarified this situation.

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[lovesmayfamilis]

If the moderators still haven't banned it, maybe they're thinking further than that. Walking around with the yoke of a scoundrel and a liar can be much worse than just walking away. Everyone knows his personality, and I think no one will fall for his speeches. Everything that he does not write on the forum will be perceived as an extra confirmation of his personality and proof of his negative tags. Plus, with his shallow soul, he's bound to show up with a different profile; do we need more Naim027?

[JollyGood]

Eventually, I think naim027 and his known alt-accounts will be banned but there are many users still here that are not banned and they have been involved in much more drama than naim027 and his alt-accounts but in his case he was ban evading using multiple accounts (one openly trying for an unban and the others covertly trying to build trust) and for that reason hilariousandco really should rethink his decision.

If the moderators still haven't banned it, maybe they're thinking further than that. Walking around with the yoke of a scoundrel and a liar can be much worse than just walking away. Everyone knows his personality, and I think no one will fall for his speeches. Everything that he does not write on the forum will be perceived as an extra confirmation of his personality and proof of his negative tags. Plus, with his shallow soul, he's bound to show up with a different profile; do we need more Naim027?

[Poker Player]

Bump.

Is anyone going to give any explanation as to why this scum is still freely on the forum without being permabanned? I guess not.

I want to remind people he repeatedly broke the rules including the one about using alts while he was banned, which we found out shortly after he was unbanned.

[Majestic-milf]

Bump.

Is anyone going to give any explanation as to why this scum is still freely on the forum without being permabanned? I guess not.

I want to remind people he repeatedly broke the rules including the one about using alts while he was banned, which we found out shortly after he was unbanned.

I understand your need to clean the forum of "scumbags" and all, because obviously the dude has flounted all the rules and is unabashedly walking the forum like he's some untouchable shit, but who knows if @hilariousandco is really not bothered about him yet since he's got all these red flags on him and if you think about it, there's more folks out there like him.
 I just feel @hilariousandco is taking his sweet lil time before he'd do the needful.

[Hispo]

Bump.

Is anyone going to give any explanation as to why this scum is still freely on the forum without being permabanned? I guess not.

I want to remind people he repeatedly broke the rules including the one about using alts while he was banned, which we found out shortly after he was unbanned.

I guess it is about the usual time moderators take to review cases? (We just ended a Christmas season, btw)
I have noticed it may take some time to give a look on individual cases of bans and appeals, and I don't blame them, moderation work can be harsh.

There is also a little chance that whoever is in charge on this case in particular believes the red tags are enough of a punishment, in the end, even if he was banned, nothing would stop a banned user to use a new alt account.

[Poker Player]

I guess it is about the usual time moderators take to review cases? (We just ended a Christmas season, btw)
I have noticed it may take some time to give a look on individual cases of bans and appeals, and I don't blame them, moderation work can be harsh.

There is also a little chance that whoever is in charge on this case in particular believes the red tags are enough of a punishment, in the end, even if he was banned, nothing would stop a banned user to use a new alt account.

I see more sense in the first part of what you say than in the second. Apart from the red tags he has done repeated plagiarism, which is cause for banning and for which he was effectively banned in the past and he used alts while banned, which is another cause for banning.

On the other hand, if we were to take into account the argument that they can always create alts, no one would ever be banned in the first place, as they can create alts, right?

Some are so dumb that they use the same IP, the same addresses or show other evidence that makes it easy to catch them.

I just feel @hilariousandco is taking his sweet lil time before he'd do the needful.

Let's hope so.

[Solosanz]

There is also a little chance that whoever is in charge on this case in particular believes the red tags are enough of a punishment, in the end, even if he was banned, nothing would stop a banned user to use a new alt account.

Forum doesn't stop a banned user to create new alt account as long as it's used to create ban appeal, if they're create post outside Meta board, they're breaking the rule of "ban evasion".

Permanent banned is a must, do you really want to his new alt creating merit fishing threads in this forum?

Some are so dumb that they use the same IP, the same addresses or show other evidence that makes it easy to catch them.

I think you completely understand about "no need to being 100% honest" and "anyone will learn from a lesson"? pointing out those things will help him to hide it lol.

Anyway talking about same IP address, his alt account already get banned in the past while his other accounts are still active in this forum, is just proving how the administrators either doesn't really care with ban evasion due to IP address connection.

[Hispo]

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For the record, I am not obviously suggesting that things like these are supposed to be ignored and those who break the rules are to be given a free pass, they are users who have committed lesser infractions than those in this case and yet they are banned to this day. I was just trying to make sense out the fact your request has not been fulfilled yet. That's all.

I doubt anyone wants alt abusers and farmers to run around unpunished

[lovesmayfamilis]

Poker Player, take this jerk as a forum buffoon. He really has a lot of negativity in his trust, so whenever he spits something out, no one will take him seriously but will only give him an additional cuff or a kick. He probably needs this, since all smart people do not see or hear him. I noticed that he is also ignored by you, and if the moderators do not ban his account, then let him get his portion of kicks; he needs them so much.

[yahoo62278]

Bump.

Is anyone going to give any explanation as to why this scum is still freely on the forum without being permabanned? I guess not.

I want to remind people he repeatedly broke the rules including the one about using alts while he was banned, which we found out shortly after he was unbanned.

I guess it is about the usual time moderators take to review cases? (We just ended a Christmas season, btw)
I have noticed it may take some time to give a look on individual cases of bans and appeals, and I don't blame them, moderation work can be harsh.

There is also a little chance that whoever is in charge on this case in particular believes the red tags are enough of a punishment, in the end, even if he was banned, nothing would stop a banned user to use a new alt account.

Honestly, this is a piss poor excuse for administration/moderators. It would take 1 hour max to review this case. The guy admitted his alts and ban evasion, CASE CLOSED. They fucked up unbanning him and don't wanna look foolish, or just being lazy about it.

Why does everyone act like admins and mods are toooooo busy and running multi billion dollar corporations? Most are regular people not too busy doing much of anything.

[Poker Player]

Bump.

Honestly, this is a piss poor excuse for administration/moderators. It would take 1 hour max to review this case. The guy admitted his alts and ban evasion, CASE CLOSED. They fucked up unbanning him and don't wanna look foolish, or just being lazy about it.

Why does everyone act like admins and mods are toooooo busy and running multi billion dollar corporations? Most are regular people not too busy doing much of anything.

I agree 100%.

Mods, theymos, we are still waiting for a reply on why the rules have not been applied in this case. He is now engaged, again, in trying to manipulate people in the Reputation section. As if it wasn't enough that when he gets banned he continues to create alts, to leave his main account active and go around messing around even more.

[elevates]

Bump.

Honestly, this is a piss poor excuse for administration/moderators. It would take 1 hour max to review this case. The guy admitted his alts and ban evasion, CASE CLOSED. They fucked up unbanning him and don't wanna look foolish, or just being lazy about it.

Why does everyone act like admins and mods are toooooo busy and running multi billion dollar corporations? Most are regular people not too busy doing much of anything.

I agree 100%.

Mods, theymos, we are still waiting for a reply on why the rules have not been applied in this case. He is now engaged, again, in trying to manipulate people in the Reputation section. As if it wasn't enough that when he gets banned he continues to create alts, to leave his main account active and go around messing around even more.

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This guy is one of the biggest scammers and I feel it would be some time he would come up with another alt account. The problem we would encounter at that time would be to determine whether those alts are related to this individual. It is high time that the BMs rethink before hiring someone from that local board.

[JollyGood]

Honestly, this is a piss poor excuse for administration/moderators. It would take 1 hour max to review this case. The guy admitted his alts and ban evasion, CASE CLOSED. They fucked up unbanning him and don't wanna look foolish, or just being lazy about it.

If they thought he was that much of a problem they probably would have banned (again) him by now and added all of his known alt-accounts to the ban list too. Maybe they do not see him as too much of a nuisance but I would request they re-evaluate their decision.

Bump.

Honestly, this is a piss poor excuse for administration/moderators. It would take 1 hour max to review this case. The guy admitted his alts and ban evasion, CASE CLOSED. They fucked up unbanning him and don't wanna look foolish, or just being lazy about it.

Why does everyone act like admins and mods are toooooo busy and running multi billion dollar corporations? Most are regular people not too busy doing much of anything.

I agree 100%.

Mods, theymos, we are still waiting for a reply on why the rules have not been applied in this case. He is now engaged, again, in trying to manipulate people in the Reputation section. As if it wasn't enough that when he gets banned he continues to create alts, to leave his main account active and go around messing around even more.

I hope the moderators actually look at what is being said in these previous posts and hope they will take action because naim027 and his known alt-accounts are not productive to the wider community.

[rby]

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This guy is one of the biggest scammers and I feel it would be some time he would come up with another alt account. The problem we would encounter at that time would be to determine whether those alts are related to this individual. It is high time that the BMs rethink before hiring someone from that local board.

You should know the difference between someone having multiple accounts and a scammer. Although there are so many threads of Naim027 and his alts recently, but I have never seen any allegations that he scammed someone. So, in matters like you talk with facts.
I have read that he has many alts but I do not also know if he cheated any signature campaign with his alts. Some people here could be worse than Naim027 just because they aren't bursted yet.
Secondly, the sin of one man should not close doors for a whole local board. There are still good people in his locals, please do not generalise.

Meanwhile, I haven't seen moderators ban anyone because users called them out to be banned in the meta. Apart from this thread, I have also read where BlackHatCoiner requested that franky1 be banned but nothing has happened.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Although there are so many threads of Naim027 and his alts recently, but I have never seen any allegations that he scammed someone.

Yeah, I was scratching my head there for a minute, trying to think of whether naim027 had been accused of not just being dishonest but actually scamming someone (or attempting to).  As I said a day or so ago, I don't recall ever having a problem with him personally which I would have had there been evidence of him scamming. 

Either way, the issue here is ban evasion with alt accounts.  Perhaps the moderators don't think there's enough evidence to link naim023 to John Abraham and any other account(s) believed to be connected to him?  The blockchain transactions were proof enough for me, but mods might choose to be extremely prudent when making a judgement like that.  I don't know, but I'd really like to hear one or more of them chime in.

Apart from this thread, I have also read where BlackHatCoiner requested that franky1 be banned but nothing has happened.

He's not being accused of plagiarism or ban evasion AFAIK, just being very loud with his opinions, and there's been talk of him spreading misinformation--and correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't been following that drama.  I seriously doubt franky1 is going to get banned if it comes down to an issue of free speech.  Trolling and spamming are actionable offenses, but I don't think he's doing either of those.

[rby]

Either way, the issue here is ban evasion with alt accounts.  Perhaps the moderators don't think there's enough evidence to link naim023 to John Abraham and any other account(s) believed to be connected to him?  The blockchain transactions were proof enough for me, but mods might choose to be extremely prudent when making a judgement like that.  I don't know, but I'd really like to hear one or more of them chime in.

I will also like to hear from the moderators. I am assuming if there is an unsaid rule that anyone whose ban is lifted cannot be banned again. On a second thought it seems that naim027 ban case is more than 6 months, hence every moderator is reluctant to revisit it.
Also, in law there is what is called "Stare decisis". This enables the court not to go against its previous ruling or decisions. This doctrine obligates the court to align so well with their previous verdict. Moderators having unbanned naim027, banning him again could contradict their previous decisions, hence the silence.

Apart from this thread, I have also read where BlackHatCoiner requested that franky1 be banned but nothing has happened.

He's not being accused of plagiarism or ban evasion AFAIK, just being very loud with his opinions, and there's been talk of him spreading misinformation--and correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't been following that drama.  I seriously doubt franky1 is going to get banned if it comes down to an issue of free speech.  Trolling and spamming are actionable offenses, but I don't think he's doing either of those.

I most times agree with franky1's opinions. He is loud about his opinions especially on LN. And many people do not agree with him and I think he was once banned from discussing in the technical sections of the forum. I don't know if the ban was lifted at a time.

[Volgastallion]

Somethings to say, first of all i think the forum NEEDS to ban the Naims account the most fast as possible because he is going to make new accounts (or maybe he has a few more in the shadows) and its gonna send all the smerits remaining in that accounts to the farm.

I think they are exploiting the generosity of some users, we can see a ton of accounts from the south asian (indonesia/Bangladesh) and Nigeria, who are making this movement of multiplir between them the merits.


First they have some good or primary account, who took merits from serious post, second their have a secondary account or third account and when a pizza or pumpking event appears they op up and collect all the merits in a big ammount from very reputed merits sources.
After that they go to the "ladder" of local board and redistribuied the merits between them.

So like Naim are a few guys behind some accounts.

How you can detect them? Easy, you can see they have a very low activity but a very high merits (they have like 1 activity 1 merit rate). And when you see from where that merits comes its allways the same, pizza BTC or events related, local boards redistribution of merits, beg for merits on the threads when you can put your best posts/threads and received merits to reach X rank.

Obviusly im not putting all in the same box, i know we have some very usefull users here who makes a big effort and really good post, but for example the account of LDL i was following that account for farming a lot of merits, and ended up being one more account of naim......

So in resume their break the rule of not share merits between your own accounts and also exploit the generosity of the communitty to give them merits in the contests.

[DireWolfM14]

Why is this thread still in the Meta board?

[Poker Player]

Why is this thread still in the Meta board?

Where do you think a thread asking for a ban should be?

This is not a thread about naim027's reputation, it is a thread asking for the ban of someone who ban evaded with several alts when he was banned, of which there is no doubt, as he confessed it himself.

That was the initial intention of the thread. I have now moved on to asking for explanations as to why the rules are not being followed in such a blatant case, the silence for an answer being embarrassing.