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November 04, 2022, 12:50:09 PM
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what do you think, is the man's action right or if you experience it (win a big jackpot) will you do as the man did or even be honest with your victory to your family??
Aside the fact that privacy should be obviously essential, his reasoning is secondary issue and legality of his decision to keep money away from his wife depends by the regional laws and what type of marriage contract they have.

Honesty on the other hand is just matter of his personal moral, and are subjective to his personal situation. Personally i wouldn't keep any secrets in my marriage (not to mention secrets of this magnitude).

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November 04, 2022, 06:20:24 PM
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this is a good topic [Gambling house responisbilty to protect people data] and it should be mandatory for gambling houses to keep user privacy safe but there is something interesting that I saw in a tweet;


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The man's reasoning is reasonable, but in my personal opinion this is an irresponsible act, he should as a husband, be honest with his wife or children and even if they turn into lazy, he just needs to educate them hard.

what do you think, is the man's action right or if you experience it (win a big jackpot) will you do as the man did or even be honest with your victory to your family??
I like how the story turned into a comedy lol. However, his own perception in life might something I want to disagree. Either he’s facing victory or not, the family should always be the first to know. It’s like in gambling, as to where your money will go if you keep it secret to your own family? For me, this is more being selfish on a gambler’s mind, but in an indirect way.

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November 04, 2022, 07:43:54 PM
 #103

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what do you think, is the man's action right or if you experience it (win a big jackpot) will you do as the man did or even be honest with your victory to your family??
Aside the fact that privacy should be obviously essential, his reasoning is secondary issue and legality of his decision to keep money away from his wife depends by the regional laws and what type of marriage contract they have.

Honesty on the other hand is just matter of his personal moral, and are subjective to his personal situation. Personally i wouldn't keep any secrets in my marriage (not to mention secrets of this magnitude).
Maybe he just really don't want to let them know yet? that's why he did that  or maybe he really doesn't want his family to know what happen maybe there's a big problem in their marriage maybe that one could probably one of the reason. but I still believe that he just did that because he will save the money first and make a time deposit for that so in the future theh will have money to used with.
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November 04, 2022, 07:54:44 PM
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The man's reasoning is reasonable, but in my personal opinion this is an irresponsible act, he should as a husband, be honest with his wife or children and even if they turn into lazy, he just needs to educate them hard.
I would not be able to claim that the man is irresponsible act just for doing so. even without the results of that gamble, I think, maybe he has become a husband and a responsible father at the same time. And there might be some reasons he doesn't really want to reveal. but for sure, he has his own privacy and we respect that. regardless of the reason behind it. I personally will also do the same thing by not revealing my identity when receiving the rewards for several reasons related to privacy and identity, although if it were me, I myself would also explain to my wife and children. However, we cannot judge that an action is an irresponsible act.

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November 04, 2022, 09:12:42 PM
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I just want to add that in some countries, lottery winners are revealed in public because of transparency issues. I just don't know what specific countries are those. But as far as my knowledge on that is concerned, it's only the lottery as the gambling type that has cases of revealing winners.

Outside the lottery or other gambling types, there are no cases I  heard that winners are revealed. And if we refer to online gambling sites, that is something we can't expect even if there's no privacy data act or something regulations like that.
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November 04, 2022, 10:45:43 PM
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The man's reasoning is reasonable, but in my personal opinion this is an irresponsible act, he should as a husband, be honest with his wife or children and even if they turn into lazy, he just needs to educate them hard.

what do you think, is the man's action right or if you experience it (win a big jackpot) will you do as the man did or even be honest with your victory to your family??

Nah, it's also not good to say that what he have done is an irresponsible action. First of all, you were never in his shoes. So, you don't have the slightest idea what he have been through and what action plan is taking into.

True but sometimes we can feel that there is something more behind those reasons  Grin.  Take note, the guy is ready to lie about his winnings to his family so definitely there is a huge chance that he is also lying about the reason why he doesn't want his family to know his money.

I don't see anything wrong with keeping it secret with his family as long as they are always gonna be the priority when it comes to finances.

It is his right so we cannot question that but it is unethical to keep a secret from your wife when you know it will alleviate the feelings and remove pressure and stress coming from financial shortage.

It's also not advisable to open it up with your children especially when they're not mature enough to understand the risk.

Keeping it away from the knowledge of children is reasonable but with your wife?  Maybe we have different cultures since I grow up seeing my father giving all his money earned from his job to my mother.  So the action of the guy is a taboo to me.
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November 04, 2022, 10:50:36 PM
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I just want to add that in some countries, lottery winners are revealed in public because of transparency issues. I just don't know what specific countries are those. But as far as my knowledge on that is concerned, it's only the lottery as the gambling type that has cases of revealing winners.

Outside the lottery or other gambling types, there are no cases I  heard that winners are revealed. And if we refer to online gambling sites, that is something we can't expect even if there's no privacy data act or something regulations like that.
One of the cons on letting winners cover up their faces is that there's no transparency and its true that there are places on the world which these kind of set up cant really be that possible.It would be raising up questions in relation with transparency but in most case winners are free on what they do asked out or request.In the situation of that man who had won millions then i do understand his point
for its family members to become lazy which it is likely to happen but we know that their part of the family which they do have the right to know on whats happening inside of it.
If you do really mind about being honest then you would really be telling them but if not then you would really be keeping it as a secret but i do agree on that winners point
and he has the right on doing that.

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November 05, 2022, 12:42:51 AM
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Idk man looked like he just used his wife and child as an excuse, and his original goal is, well, really, his privacy. The wife and child may also be part of the bigger idea but it isn't everything I guess, other family members, friends, heck even random people by the road may be a part of it. I do wonder if he's able to actually hide it for so long and where he's planning to spend it. If it was a backup investment for his children in the future then it's rather understandable why he sees no need to tell it to his family.

We know that if the winner does not want to inform his family of the large amount that he won, that is his right first of all, we do not know the reason for this person, but even so, this reason may not be a good goal. or it can also be a good goal because it is not hidden from the knowledge of the majority that many think badly of the person who won a large amount of money, especially if they are one of their relatives.

But often the reason for things like that is, of course, his own family, wife, and children, for sure he thinks carefully about how to use what he won and he doesn't want it to just go to anything like other winners but it's not used in a good way.


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November 05, 2022, 01:31:52 PM
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Money won from the lottery money has done more harm than good. I remember an old man who won 150 million dollars. After 2 years, his wife and children hated him and left him alone in his big mansion. He was asked if he had any regrets, and he said yes. His biggest regret was winning that lottery money. The old man was living wayward until he exhausted all the money. Imagine someone who's paying $20k to prostitutes per night and buying cars which he will leave unlocked for them to be stolen.

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November 05, 2022, 02:27:54 PM
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Money won from the lottery money has done more harm than good. I remember an old man who won 150 million dollars. After 2 years, his wife and children hated him and left him alone in his big mansion. He was asked if he had any regrets, and he said yes. His biggest regret was winning that lottery money. The old man was living wayward until he exhausted all the money. Imagine someone who's paying $20k to prostitutes per night and buying cars which he will leave unlocked for them to be stolen.

You're right about this mate, it's not all about winning big amounts and at the end if it all there's nothing to show forth, many of the gamblers who had this rare kind of opportunities have returned back to their starting point after sone years of misappropriation of the funds, this is most regrettable than not winning at all, I don't blame them to an extent because alot of factors have contributed to their predicament and such is one of the contending issue about privacy that we are discussing on this thread, if everyone knows I've won big then alot of things were at stake, but from the example given, i don't think family should be exempted from knowing this kind of fortune.

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November 05, 2022, 02:48:08 PM
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The man's reason has a dept meaning and we can not blame him because we don't know the exact reason or meaning why he do this. There's a a lot of reason we think and some this are Maybe he will surprised his wife in the big event of their life and that's the reason why he keeps silent. Or what he do is to prevent his identity to The criminals or thief, if because when the Thief, scammers or criminals will know them for sure they have an interest with that guy.

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November 08, 2022, 08:20:11 AM
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The man's reasoning is reasonable, but in my personal opinion this is an irresponsible act, he should as a husband, be honest with his wife or children and even if they turn into lazy, he just needs to educate them hard.

what do you think, is the man's action right or if you experience it (win a big jackpot) will you do as the man did or even be honest with your victory to your family??
That is one stupid thing for me to be a reason , our wife and children is half of our life , we build them to be totally part of our life meaning what we had is for theirs too,, and what is our action must be for them as well.

with this kind of attitude? there is one thing that I am sure off, this person does not trust any one in the world but Himself, not Unless His wife and children has a attitude problem and might become greedy about the money as this is truly high.

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November 08, 2022, 10:40:21 AM
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this is a good topic [Gambling house responisbilty to protect people data] and it should be mandatory for gambling houses to keep user privacy safe but there is something interesting that I saw in a tweet;


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The man's reasoning is reasonable, but in my personal opinion this is an irresponsible act, he should as a husband, be honest with his wife or children and even if they turn into lazy, he just needs to educate them hard.

what do you think, is the man's action right or if you experience it (win a big jackpot) will you do as the man did or even be honest with your victory to your family??

I share the same sentiments with you.

While I like his idea of wearing a costume to hide his identity in order to secure his safety and of course winnings, I also don't like the idea of hiding something from your loved ones, given that you are the head of the family. It's okay to keep it a secret from your relatives, but not to the family you built to have. You can always teach them something they don't know or practice so that they'll be better.

I find it selfish and unreasonable despite his reason because that kind of matter can always be talked about and worked on. But of course, this won't always be applicable in every situation. If he happens to have an abusive wife and aggressive son/daughter, it might be for the better. But if your family is not dysfunctional and you can see that harmony is within your home, then there's no reason for you to keep it hidden. They'll surely understand you if you're just going to let them become aware and educated about financial aspects.
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November 08, 2022, 12:27:46 PM
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Wow this is really a good idea of hiding identity, but something get me surprised about him hiding his identity so his wife and children won't know about the money. Hey man to me it's a thing of Joy and my wife and kids has to know about it because your family is your first priority and they should be the first people to know about it and then plan very well with your wife.
It depends on your personal orientation between you and your family otherwise they won't misbehave.


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November 09, 2022, 07:40:31 AM
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this is a good topic [Gambling house responisbilty to protect people data] and it should be mandatory for gambling houses to keep user privacy safe but there is something interesting that I saw in a tweet;

There is nothing special about his appearance, just another jackpot winner trying to hide from the public and don't want people to put eyes on his money, perhaps it may put him in danger if some friends and society know that he had won such a big amount of money. Talking about privacy, this is one of the ways but this doesn't hide his identity from the casino who gave him that check, they know who he is, they know about him and when he cashout that amount into his bank account, it will reveal the destination account. To avoid this kind of problem, it is better to accept your winnings in Bitcoin, they are pseudonyms at least to protect you from the public and the casino if they don't request anything like KYC.

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this is a good topic [Gambling house responisbilty to protect people data] and it should be mandatory for gambling houses to keep user privacy safe but there is something interesting that I saw in a tweet;


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The man's reasoning is reasonable, but in my personal opinion this is an irresponsible act, he should as a husband, be honest with his wife or children and even if they turn into lazy, he just needs to educate them hard.

what do you think, is the man's action right or if you experience it (win a big jackpot) will you do as the man did or even be honest with your victory to your family??
practicality ? yes this is good but make them lazy? he will be one of  the riches people in the world , so this is what happening so better to teach His family how to run a  business and teach them how to handle money properly or else they will not getting anything from his Will.
but hiding the money completely? maybe he has His own plans for than money  that is not part of the family lol.

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practicality ? yes this is good but make them lazy? he will be one of  the riches people in the world , so this is what happening so better to teach His family how to run a  business and teach them how to handle money properly or else they will not getting anything from his Will.
but hiding the money completely? maybe he has His own plans for than money  that is not part of the family lol.
Should I say that is a poor man mentality, or the thinking is not good.

I do not have to let my family to be thinking that we are poor when we are no more poor, it is wrong. You may not take good care of a child and it can also result to another thing not good. It is good to take good care of children, letting them have the mentality that they have a father that can help in the time of trouble than depending on someone from outside. You may think it can not happen, but you may not know until something bad happen.

There are children that came from poor home and gone bad. There are children that came from rich home that gone bad. That is just life. I have seen many people from rich home that got rich too, some even got richer more than their parents.

Because you have money, it does not still mean that you can not discipline your children.

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practicality ? yes this is good but make them lazy? he will be one of  the riches people in the world , so this is what happening so better to teach His family how to run a  business and teach them how to handle money properly or else they will not getting anything from his Will.
but hiding the money completely? maybe he has His own plans for than money  that is not part of the family lol.
Should I say that is a poor man mentality, or the thinking is not good.

I do not have to let my family to be thinking that we are poor when we are no more poor, it is wrong. You may not take good care of a child and it can also result to another thing not good. It is good to take good care of children, letting them have the mentality that they have a father that can help in the time of trouble than depending on someone from outside. You may think it can not happen, but you may not know until something bad happen.

There are children that came from poor home and gone bad. There are children that came from rich home that gone bad. That is just life. I have seen many people from rich home that got rich too, some even got richer more than their parents.

Because you have money, it does not still mean that you can not discipline your children.

Well I have a very open thought about this, in fact I have always thought that the poor are in our minds, in the decrees that can be made and affirmed without fault, a person who says all the time that he cannot because he does not have money, it is obvious that he will not be able to, a person who wants always looks for a way to have that money to see how he can solve it, this is something like what Robert Kiyosaki always recommends about certain situations in life, sometimes not only money is so valuable with having a lot of knowledge is a way to make quick money, these are the things that should be seen, there is nothing else, and this is ideally taught to children from an early age.

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November 24, 2022, 06:36:58 PM
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The man's reasoning is reasonable, but in my personal opinion this is an irresponsible act, he should as a husband, be honest with his wife or children and even if they turn into lazy, he just needs to educate them hard.
I would not be able to claim that the man is irresponsible act just for doing so. even without the results of that gamble, I think, maybe he has become a husband and a responsible father at the same time. And there might be some reasons he doesn't really want to reveal. but for sure, he has his own privacy and we respect that. regardless of the reason behind it. I personally will also do the same thing by not revealing my identity when receiving the rewards for several reasons related to privacy and identity, although if it were me, I myself would also explain to my wife and children. However, we cannot judge that an action is an irresponsible act.
I would not conclude that the man is being irresponsible too because he has his own reasons. However, for me, I would also want to protect my identity by not revealing my true identity to the public, except from my own family. I believe they always deserve to know whatever achievements or failures I’ve achieved, and this time, they should be the first persons to know and celebrate with me.

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practicality ? yes this is good but make them lazy? he will be one of  the riches people in the world , so this is what happening so better to teach His family how to run a  business and teach them how to handle money properly or else they will not getting anything from his Will.
but hiding the money completely? maybe he has His own plans for than money  that is not part of the family lol.
Should I say that is a poor man mentality, or the thinking is not good.

Simply put it, the father doesn't trust his family.  Him hiding his identity and not letting his family knows the bountiful future they have is possibly a poor mentality and at the same thime doesn't think good of his family.

I do not have to let my family to be thinking that we are poor when we are no more poor, it is wrong. You may not take good care of a child and it can also result to another thing not good. It is good to take good care of children, letting them have the mentality that they have a father that can help in the time of trouble than depending on someone from outside. You may think it can not happen, but you may not know until something bad happen.

I agree, couples should be transparent to one another, they promised to be one and share both sufferings and joys.  Now the father had already won huge amount of money, why leaving his family behind the thought of they are poor.  I always think that this father have other woman.  Now that he has the money, he wanted himself to be free of audit from is wife.  The reason why he don't want to let his family know that he has won a gigantic amount of money.

There are children that came from poor home and gone bad. There are children that came from rich home that gone bad. That is just life. I have seen many people from rich home that got rich too, some even got richer more than their parents.

Because you have money, it does not still mean that you can not discipline your children.

At the end it is how we discipline our children and how we thought them to do right things.  It isn't about money but good parenting.
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