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November 03, 2022, 08:16:51 AM
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"Is the bear market over? Hard to say, but a lot of the bad news was priced in. With a maximum drawdown of -28%, SPX discounted 85% of a typical 33% market decline and 78% of a recession bear market. I still like the 1946 counterpart-"
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November 03, 2022, 08:59:23 AM
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"Is the bear market over? Hard to say, but a lot of the bad news was priced in. With a maximum drawdown of -28%, SPX discounted 85% of a typical 33% market decline and 78% of a recession bear market. I still like the 1946 counterpart-"
We can only answer for cypto though, and the answer is that we are still in the bear market, and we are not even in the center of it. We still have the whole 2023, for a long and hard grind and we still might see some altcoin projects not surviving or barely arrived, -95% down or even the most is 99%.

And so we will have to wait in 2024, at least that year we will see the catalyst for the whole crypto market to go on a bull season, it's the bitcoin block halving.

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November 03, 2022, 09:12:22 AM
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"Is the bear market over? Hard to say, but a lot of the bad news was priced in. With a maximum drawdown of -28%, SPX discounted 85% of a typical 33% market decline and 78% of a recession bear market. I still like the 1946 counterpart-"
We're still in a bear market and one great indicator is bitcoin. If bitcoin isn't bullish then that's the sign that we're still not yet ready for a bull run.
And all of those altcoins that you're holding or looking at its gains or losses, if they didn't moved that much then it means that we're not yet out of the bear. It's simple as that and expect more declines to come because this is the time of uncertainty.

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November 03, 2022, 09:20:50 AM
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"Is the bear market over? Hard to say, but a lot of the bad news was priced in. With a maximum drawdown of -28%, SPX discounted 85% of a typical 33% market decline and 78% of a recession bear market. I still like the 1946 counterpart-"

Well there could be some correlation between crypto and other traditional financial market. But I would say that crypto is much volatile and it will hit very hard by the bear market. So if by chance those market are bouncing, maybe crypto is not. And if we are going to look at the historical past, then we might say that we are still in the bear market and this could continue till the first quarter of 2024, or before the Bitcoin block halving. And probably after that activity, the market will slowly bounce and then leading up to the end of the year for a full recovery and bull market.

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November 03, 2022, 10:07:37 AM
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"Is the bear market over? Hard to say, but a lot of the bad news was priced in. With a maximum drawdown of -28%, SPX discounted 85% of a typical 33% market decline and 78% of a recession bear market. I still like the 1946 counterpart-"

If you look at history to predict the present and the future, it can be said that it is too early to say that bear season is over. We've only been in bear season for a year, which means if history repeats itself, we have over 2 years left for bear season to end. Plus with the current economic crisis, if history doesn't repeat itself, bear season won't end either, and as information released by the Fed yesterday, they will continue to raise interest rates in 2023 until inflation returns to normal (<2%). This means we will have a more intense 2023 than now, brace yourself for bigger storms instead of expecting a bull season.

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November 03, 2022, 01:00:03 PM
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Only the crypto market can answer that for you and Bitcoin would be our main indicator. We just don’t know what would happen to the market the next hour, day, week or so. It’s very unpredictable and highly volatile.

So we’re not out of the woods yet unless a big rally happens anytime without warning.

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November 03, 2022, 02:10:17 PM
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"Is the bear market over? Hard to say, but a lot of the bad news was priced in. With a maximum drawdown of -28%, SPX discounted 85% of a typical 33% market decline and 78% of a recession bear market. I still like the 1946 counterpart-"

No one knows exactly when these bears will leave until it actually disappears. But looking at the market now, we can easily see that nothing has changed, we are still in a down season and will last longer than you think. Many believe and predict the bull season will come when the halving happens, meaning we have to wait until 2024 for the bulls to arrive and the bears to continue to dominate until then.

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November 03, 2022, 05:25:48 PM
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"Is the bear market over? Hard to say, but a lot of the bad news was priced in. With a maximum drawdown of -28%, SPX discounted 85% of a typical 33% market decline and 78% of a recession bear market. I still like the 1946 counterpart-"

No one knows exactly when these bears will leave until it actually disappears. But looking at the market now, we can easily see that nothing has changed, we are still in a down season and will last longer than you think. Many believe and predict the bull season will come when the halving happens, meaning we have to wait until 2024 for the bulls to arrive and the bears to continue to dominate until then.
Many have asked when the bear market will go away the obvious answer is we never know but the situation is indeed at its toughest unless they hold on until the bulls come. But don't expect it anytime soon.

Since the decline from ATH we had to take a heavy blow where the market situation couldn't recover again, this is what we saw the reaction there even the bears still kept quiet and didn't leave, but for me the strong answer is to invest in important coins and wait until bulls come a few years away.

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November 03, 2022, 05:32:17 PM
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Going by today's charts it is not over in crypto, maybe in stock market if you say so.

The markets can be bearish for long time and we have to decide whether the new lows become the new normal range for the time being. It is useless at such times to dream of the all-time-highs but to cope with the stress by buying at the lower prices.

As far as bitcoin's price is concerned it is still in the downtrend in the 20k-ish USD range. Buy if you can and if you have hope. It can happen that the price drops even more, in which case you should wait if you have already bought a lot.

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"Is the bear market over? Hard to say, but a lot of the bad news was priced in. With a maximum drawdown of -28%, SPX discounted 85% of a typical 33% market decline and 78% of a recession bear market. I still like the 1946 counterpart-"

 - I don't think the bear market is over yet dude because as far as I know the entry of the bull run is still in 2024, which means we have to go through the year 2023 before we get through it.

Although the period of the bear market is not an easy time for us to earn income, instead it requires sufficient skills and knowledge in performing trading tactics accurately, not even 100% but at least 75-80 At least % strategy to get profit here in crypto trading.

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"Is the bear market over? Hard to say, but a lot of the bad news was priced in. With a maximum drawdown of -28%, SPX discounted 85% of a typical 33% market decline and 78% of a recession bear market. I still like the 1946 counterpart-"

 - I don't think the bear market is over yet dude because as far as I know the entry of the bull run is still in 2024, which means we have to go through the year 2023 before we get through it.

Yes, we are not out of the bear market, this is simply the market getting to the biggest support of $20k. And after that, the price could be on another sideways although majority might believed that at least in December we will see some jump. But for me, the max price that we can get is around $22k.

Although the period of the bear market is not an easy time for us to earn income, instead it requires sufficient skills and knowledge in performing trading tactics accurately, not even 100% but at least 75-80 At least % strategy to get profit here in crypto trading.

Or if you don't want to complicate things on your part, why not buy cheap altcoins in the top 10 and just HODL. Of course, if you are a trader, you can mix and match certain strategies that will fit your trading strategy. But for those who are not traders and wanted risk free environment, then simply buying and accumulating is the best thing to do in a market cycle like this.

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"Is the bear market over? Hard to say, but a lot of the bad news was priced in. With a maximum drawdown of -28%, SPX discounted 85% of a typical 33% market decline and 78% of a recession bear market. I still like the 1946 counterpart-"

 - I don't think the bear market is over yet dude because as far as I know the entry of the bull run is still in 2024, which means we have to go through the year 2023 before we get through it.

Although the period of the bear market is not an easy time for us to earn income, instead it requires sufficient skills and knowledge in performing trading tactics accurately, not even 100% but at least 75-80 At least % strategy to get profit here in crypto trading.
Making some increase is just like an ordinary day here on crypto space but wont really be that enough for us to say that we would really be going bull run.We are still on consolidating period
which it is really hard to make out some prediction and make some accumulation on this period.Cant really be denied that we do have some sayings that the price might go way back on 10k price point
basing up on technical indicators and that what makes some hesitance for investors to buy with the current price and thats what make it had to make some pumps.
This bear market would be over soon which it would be normal that there are sudden change of trend but no one could precisely point it out.

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November 03, 2022, 11:28:33 PM
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"Is the bear market over? Hard to say, but a lot of the bad news was priced in. With a maximum drawdown of -28%, SPX discounted 85% of a typical 33% market decline and 78% of a recession bear market. I still like the 1946 counterpart-"

No one knows exactly when these bears will leave until it actually disappears. But looking at the market now, we can easily see that nothing has changed, we are still in a down season and will last longer than you think. Many believe and predict the bull season will come when the halving happens, meaning we have to wait until 2024 for the bulls to arrive and the bears to continue to dominate until then.
If that's true of course we need to have a lot of patience to wait for the bull market to come,
but indeed we also need to be realistic and see the current conditions it is unlikely for the bull market to come in the near future,
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November 03, 2022, 11:40:36 PM
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Do you know what is the price of Bitcoin? It is still around $20k, right? How can this mean the bearish market is over?  Huh

As long as there is no significant change in Bitcoin price, the bearish season still continues. If we learn the bearish and bullish cycle, this bearish will continue until 2023. We only can hope that the bearish ends after the next BTC halving in 2024. BTC halving is always the sign for a new bullish season, it triggers a significant raise of crypto prices.


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I think we just entered a sideways market now. We've been seeing a lot of stagnant markets recently and it's evidenced by constant back and forth in the same price range for almost all crypto. Probably has something to do with the fact that traders could have been accumulating slowly to prepare for the next big runs. Better to prepare a lot of bags in the next few months IMO, because this stagnance might mean something.

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Can ask you one question?
Now, whenever you talk about bear what comes into your mind to buy or to gamble with the market?
So apparently, if you asking of something it should be for a reason that you either wants to invest I mean to buy some coin and hold or to trade with it, vice visa, likewise talking of bull it should be that you are already on a tight corner were you needs the market to appreciate or increases to enable you sells of a little percentage of your assets instead of throwing it away when market is dip. So your question should aligned with something you want to do.
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I don't know what the comment is saying, but I can answer for the topic name itself and say 'yes'. People are forgetting that bear is not really going on, it’s doing fine and this stable price is not bad at all. If you look at the price and not realize that it has been the same price for a while now and that’s a good thing, and you could have accumulated so much during this time and that’s a benefit to you, then you do not know how to invest.

The best kind of investment is to wait for it to get to a point where you would do fine, and I personally believe that we are doing fine, if that’s not the case then I do not know what to do and that would be hard to figure out.

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We can only just say that the bear market is over when the entire market is green and prices are moving high like 50% increase, that was satisfying enough to say that. But as we are still seeing the red chart were still seeing prices are declining, it is absolutely we are still in the bear market. But have to think about what happened in the previous bear season, it takes 3 years to recover. Though I don't say it will happen again, however, that can be still
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So, instead of thinking about the bear market when it will be over, better make yourselves busy with other stuff just to keep your faith strong.

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November 04, 2022, 10:42:11 AM
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Let's first see what will happen in this month and especially December. We all know there's a history of Bitcoin having an ATH at that month, and it could pull up all the altcoins if ever it does bring a pump, even a small one would suffice to counter the bear market that happened in this year.
But for now, all I could say is that it is quiet, like its resting or hibernating.
If only the war didn't happen between Russia and Ukraine, it could've been different. Sanctions and the pandemic really messed up the economy.
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November 04, 2022, 12:34:09 PM
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The cryptocurrency market is still fluctuating in the crypto space, which the price of Bitcoin still in the range of 20k dollar, and we have a lot of time 2023 for the next bull run, rather is the best time to invest Bitcoin, like wise other alt-coins. while waiting for Bull run.
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