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November 04, 2022, 12:13:26 AM
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I'm trying to learn to send Merit for the first time. I originally wanted to send 1 merit. but instead I made the mistake of sending 11 Merits. can I cancel the delivery of the Merit? and how to do it?

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November 04, 2022, 12:48:19 AM
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I'm trying to learn to send Merit for the first time. I originally wanted to send 1 merit. but instead I made the mistake of sending 11 Merits. can I cancel the delivery of the Merit? and how to do it?

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November 04, 2022, 01:23:21 AM
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sMerit can't be cancelled or reversed, similar like Bitcoin transaction.

I think you can made a topic for this mistake on Reputation section and tell to everyone why you can send 11 merits to that's post, since 11 merits is too large for such post. Some people who see that's post must feel weird if the user get 11 merits and you could be in trouble since you're abusing Merit system.

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November 04, 2022, 01:41:31 AM
Merited by DdmrDdmr (3), Halab (2), reagansimms (2), ABCbits (1), lovesmayfamilis (1), Awaklara (1)
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OP, sorry but how did you find that person's post and distribute your 11 sMerit today?
the post was made early last month. and its position is in the middle of the thread.
just my assumption, you are trying to help the account to rank up faster by giving Merit.

but if it is indeed your fault for trying to send Merit, you can create a thread on Reputation to explain your mistake. never be afraid if you are doing something right.
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November 04, 2022, 01:42:27 AM
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I'm trying to learn to send Merit for the first time. I originally wanted to send 1 merit. but instead I made the mistake of sending 11 Merits. can I cancel the delivery of the Merit? and how to do it?

Thank you
Click on Merit button, you will see the given warning information like this

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You have received a total of 22 merit. This is what determines your forum rank. You typically cannot lose this merit. You have 11 sendable merit (sMerit) which you can send to other people. There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future.

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This cannot be undone!

Unfortunately, I checked and saw you just sent 11 smerit. It means now you have 0 smerit to send out.

If you want to learn more about the merit system and how to use your sendable merit (sMerit), please read

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November 04, 2022, 02:25:36 AM
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Unfortunately you can't recover them. You have sent 11 merits to this person. BRINIRHA and due to your given merits he/she got the Full Member rank. Luckily he/she got this. Your mistake was a lucky moment for him/her. Smiley

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November 04, 2022, 03:12:29 AM
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It can't be cancelled. It can't be reversed.

But I was expecting the error to be different. 10 merits is more likely to be erroneously sent than 11. The merit box has by default a number 0 inside it. If you click the box, the number 0 won't disappear or at least automatically highlighted so that it would be replaced by the number you want to put.

For a number of times, I almost committed the mistake of sending 10 merits instead of only 1 because of this. Double-checking helped every time. But I think there have been a number of instances in which 10 was sent instead of 1.

Unlucky for you, OP, you've got exactly 11 sMerits. Had you only have 10, it would only have resulted in an error.

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November 04, 2022, 04:51:56 AM
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Just be careful next time. Adding reversibility to sMerits would add just too much unnecessary complications within the forum and ranking system.


Fun fact: I was once browsing the forums while intoxicated, and accidentally reported a post with a comment "1" instead of giving 1 merit.

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November 04, 2022, 05:16:01 AM
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I'm trying to learn to send Merit for the first time. I originally wanted to send 1 merit. but instead I made the mistake of sending 11 Merits. can I cancel the delivery of the Merit? and how to do it?

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It seems instead of 1 youd input double 1 on a merit post. So the 11 post you gave already been spent. But dont worry youll earn it back if you received merits from posting.

Its not like social media that when you hit the like button it can be undone. If ever it will be implemented here, there will be huge problem on the order.

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November 04, 2022, 05:50:38 AM
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OP, sorry but how did you find that person's post and distribute your 11 sMerit today?
the post was made early last month. and its position is in the middle of the thread.
just my assumption, you are trying to help the account to rank up faster by giving Merit.

but if it is indeed your fault for trying to send Merit, you can create a thread on Reputation to explain your mistake. never be afraid if you are doing something right.

I like it. This scenario can be imagined by anyone who helps their own or a friend's account rise in rank without further fuss over the distribution of merit.
But at the same time, OP, don't be petty. Well, you sent 11 merits; forget it. Or, in the end, explain to the one who received such generosity from you so that he returns at least half.
After all, you already told everyone about your drama.
I remember a similar case with the erroneous sending of merits, and I remember that everything was returned to the sender.


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November 04, 2022, 06:38:58 AM
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Technically, you sent sMerits (rather than Merits). As said, they are not reversible unless you’ve got at least 51% of Admin hash, so it’s good riddance to the exceeding 10 you did not want to send over.

A similar thing happened to me not long ago. Whilst being doubtful between sending either 1 sMerit or 2 sMerits, I ended up committing a 21 sMerit TX. Since I tend to remerit post I’ve previously merited before, I have to add an exception so as not to remerit the post again with an additional 21 sMerit TX.

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November 04, 2022, 06:53:30 AM
Merited by lovesmayfamilis (1)
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I'm trying to learn to send Merit for the first time. I originally wanted to send 1 merit. but instead I made the mistake of sending 11 Merits. can I cancel the delivery of the Merit? and how to do it?

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this is the first time I have obtained Merit with a flustered feeling. should i be happy or not. because it turns out you sent it wrong.

before finding this post of yours. I feel happy but with a little confusion. because I saw my post that you gave Merit it turned out to be a post with mediocre quality. so if it's valued at 11 merit I'm a bit confused. then i think positive i.e. i think this person is just generous and wants to help. but then i visited/viewed your profile. and it turns out that you even only have 22 Merits. which means the 11 Merits you have given me is the total sMerit you have. I immediately felt even more confused when I saw this. after that I see your post history. and finally found your latest post on this one.
and now I really don't know what to say to you. But I have to thank you with all my heart for your good intentions intending to send me 1 Merit. Even if you end up making mistakes. You must be having a hard time now that you don't have any more sMerits you can send. but your mistake has helped me by accident. so I will still sincerely thank you. Hopefully next time you can be more careful. because this kind of thing can actually damage the reputation if done intentionally and consciously. not only you will be harmed but myself can be involved. so next time you have to be more careful.
Once again I thank you for your good intentions. but the sMerit that you have sent cannot be returned. but I don't mind if I have to send a number of Merits with the same total. but I'm afraid it would violate the Merit rules in this forum. unless there is a moderator or staff that allows it.
I also think that you do not know about the reputation on this forum.
so please study more carefully.

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November 04, 2022, 06:56:51 AM
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OP, sorry but how did you find that person's post and distribute your 11 sMerit today?
the post was made early last month. and its position is in the middle of the thread.
just my assumption, you are trying to help the account to rank up faster by giving Merit.

Mistakes do happen. We do not have to see everyone as trying to break the rules of this forum. If you have mistakenly sent merit to a different account than the one you planned to you will understand what happened with the op that you can also mistakenly send 2 digits merits instead of 1. It is painful when that happens as we know you can not undo it. It is the luck of the account that received it.
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November 04, 2022, 06:57:19 AM
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lol sorry the transaction cannot be reversed. The recipient will be very happy tho so don’t worry about it. If that’s all your smerits then it’s going to hurt a little bit. I have a similar experience when I was a newbie, I made the mistake of reloading the merit page and sending merit twice to the same person. I also made the meriting the wrong user who made a post just above the one I wanted to merit at the time.

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this is the first time I have obtained Merit with a flustered feeling.

Many beautiful words, but it would be more honest to return at least 5 merits. Instead, you create a post with 1000 letters. You won't break the forum rules if you act more honorably. I showed an example in this thread.
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Many beautiful words, but it would be more honest to return at least 5 merits.
Wouldn't that be like a merit exchange?
BRINIRHA received 11 merit for a post that doesn't deserve to receive merit. This was the first mistake. If BRINIRHA sends 5 merit to Gallar just because he/she has received 11 merit mistakenly, it would be the second mistake.
This is just my opinion and I think the best thing is to forget about what happened.

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Many beautiful words, but it would be more honest to return at least 5 merits.
Wouldn't that be like a merit exchange?
BRINIRHA received 11 merit for a post that doesn't deserve to receive merit. This was the first mistake. If BRINIRHA sends 5 merit to Gallar just because he/she has received 11 merit mistakenly, it would be the second mistake.
This is just my opinion and I think the best thing is to forget about what happened.

Merit exchange? Is there any evidence that they are alternative accounts? I agree with you that the mistake was on the part of the OP and lessons need to be learned. But we see that this is important for the OP; maybe he has a nervous breakdown; I read his post history.

I am currently suffering from a disease called OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) My daily life is often stressful because there are always strange thoughts, things that I fear, and being forced to do things that I don't want to do. That's why I'm often stressed and the way I treat stress is by exercising, listening to music, chatting and don't forget to Allah SWT.

Therefore, I simply suggested what I would do in such a case when a person wants to return what was mistakenly given. We have the right to give our merits to whomever we want, right?

I see the bug has been fixed. This will be a lesson for the OP.

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Merit exchange? Is there any evidence that they are alternative accounts?
No. There is no evidence of that and I don't think  they are alternative accounts.
But generally speaking, if I send you 10 merit and tell you "I sent 10 merit to you and now I don't have any smerit. Can you please send me 5 merit?", it would be still merit exchange.


But we see that this is important for the OP; maybe he has a nervous breakdown; I read his post history.
You are right. I also took a look at his history and just sent him 6 merit.

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November 04, 2022, 10:53:21 AM
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I'm trying to learn to send Merit for the first time. I originally wanted to send 1 merit. but instead I made the mistake of sending 11 Merits. can I cancel the delivery of the Merit? and how to do it?

Thank you
"can sending smerit be cancelled?"
Short answer: No it can not, its a one way street!

Long answer: For starters, there is a difference between merit and smerit, merit can not e transferred to another user while smerit is transferable/ sendable.

It's the smerit that is needed to offset an increase in merit which in turn allows one to rank up while merit on the other hand does not decrease but only goes up per smerit received. For more information on how the merit system works check the following thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0

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November 04, 2022, 12:02:08 PM
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But generally speaking, if I send you 10 merit and tell you "I sent 10 merit to you and now I don't have any smerit. Can you please send me 5 merit?", it would be still merit exchange.
Merit exchange is not rarely seen on the forum.

Assumption:

You can apply to be a merit source and get attraction of other users who will naturally or shadily exchange merit with you. It's hard or easy to judge a merit exchange based on how quality that merited posts are and the frequency of backscratching between two users or between a merit source and their local users.

If the merited posts are not too good quality but still receiving merits, and the frequency is high, that is merit exchange.
If the merited posts are good in quality, it is good to not consider it as merit exchange.


My motto is "Your total earned merit does not tell others who you are and your qualitative contribution, but your post quality does."

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