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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.
I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.
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November 04, 2022, 07:39:35 AM |
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I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor.
Why there should be a consensus on the matter? Its not like Satoshi will reveal his identity if majority of people in bitcoin community wants him to do it. What is your opinion ? I personally never put too much thought into who actually Satoshi is (I did some initial digging when I first heard about Bitcoin and that's about it) and I hope it will never be revealed. Having his identity revealed would mean just one vector of attack on bitcoin and I think him being anonymous is a huge advantage (beside many others) over other cryptocurrencies.
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November 04, 2022, 07:41:28 AM |
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Re: Does Satoshi Needs to Reveal His Identity ?
Obviously not. What has Satoshi (or Bitcoin) have to gain with it in the first place? More than a decade of tight opsec just to budge in the end for no reason at all. Probably the only viable reason is that if Satoshi ended up being a masochist because the authorities would surely be on his arse.
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November 04, 2022, 07:50:13 AM |
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I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor.
Why there should be a consensus on the matter? Its not like Satoshi will reveal his identity if majority of people in bitcoin community wants him to do it. What is your opinion ? I personally never put too much thought into who actually Satoshi is (I did some initial digging when I first heard about Bitcoin and that's about it) and I hope it will never be revealed. Having his identity revealed would mean just one vector of attack on bitcoin and I think him being anonymous is a huge advantage (beside many others) over other cryptocurrencies. You have stated "one vector attack" if he reveals his identity but do you thing Satoshi is interested to attack his own creation ? If he decides to takes control Bitcoin and any other of his Altcoins then why do you thing he cannot do it while he is anonymous ?
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November 04, 2022, 07:53:47 AM |
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What is your opinion ?
What correct decision should Satoshi make again when he had made the correct decision in the past? People that make bitcoin to still be existing can conclude that they are all Satoshi which is something very great. Satoshi not disclose his identity has been what bitcoin community so much appreciate.
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November 04, 2022, 07:59:08 AM |
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Re: Does Satoshi Needs to Reveal His Identity ?
Obviously not. What has Satoshi (or Bitcoin) have to gain with it in the first place? More than a decade of tight opsec just to budge in the end for no reason at all. Probably the only viable reason is that if Satoshi ended up being a masochist because the authorities would surely be on his arse. 1. mk4: verdict - No. When Satoshi will becomes the authority over the global incompetent authorities then how the drama will be organised ?
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Why ? I don't think so bro think about it if he/she does it in back 10 years ago then can you expect him/her to be alive well i think that was a good move to not reveal the identity. What can we get after knowing him / her except for awarding him / her with nobal prizes. Financial freedom a concept by the satoshi and i am thankful for that idea.
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November 04, 2022, 08:02:33 AM |
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. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor.
What would a consensus do here? Satoshi is not a programme who will reveal his identity after the consensus! Everyone wants to know the real identity of Satoshi because that's it's mysterious. But honestly I think it won't be good for Satoshi himself it he reveals his identity. I strongly believe that Craig Wright is a setup by FBI to lure Satoshi out of his excile which failed miserably! There's no need for consensus. If bitcoin has done even a little good to your life, respect the decision of its creator.
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You have stated "one vector attack" if he reveals his identity but do you thing Satoshi is interested to attack his own creation ? If he decides to takes control Bitcoin and any other of his Altcoins then why do you thing he cannot do it while he is anonymous ?
It's an attack vector in a sense that whatever information is known/revealed about Satoshi can be used to socially attack Bitcoin. Obviously Bitcoin is already decentralized enough to the point that not a single entity (even Satoshi himself/herself/themselves) cannot take control over the network. 1. mk4: verdict - No.
When Satoshi will becomes the authority over the global incompetent authorities then how the drama will be organised ?
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November 04, 2022, 08:08:58 AM |
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. What is your opinion ?
The important issue here is, how will these people find out the true identity of the satoshi. And if people on the forum want him back, what is certain he will agree to? Have you ever thought about what horrors he will face if his identity is revealed? and how you would benefit from knowing his identity. Please respect his decision, if he wants to appear then he will definitely show up, we don't need to worry about that for him.
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November 04, 2022, 08:09:46 AM |
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What is your opinion ?
What correct decision should Satoshi make again when he had made the correct decision in the past? People that make bitcoin to still be existing can conclude that they are all Satoshi which is something very great. Satoshi not disclose his identity has been what bitcoin community so much appreciate. There few earlier developers, who think they are all 'Satoshi'. Its mean they want to not only infringe Satoshi's intellectual but his very individual persona. That could become a hideous takeover, which is not ethical. The outcome could be soothing like much more undesirable.
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November 04, 2022, 08:15:23 AM |
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There few earlier developers, who think they are all 'Satoshi'. Its mean they want to not only infringe Satoshi's intellectual but his very individual persona. That could become a hideous takeover, which is not ethical. The outcome could be soothing like much more undesirable.
The "we are all Satoshi" movement is obviously not to be taken literally. That movement just came up after the barrage of people claiming to be the "real" Satoshi, to sort of symbolize that Satoshi is anonymous and could be anyone, but not those who claim to be so because it obviously goes against the ethos.
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November 04, 2022, 08:18:02 AM |
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. What is your opinion ?
The important issue here is, how will these people find out the true identity of the satoshi. And if people on the forum want him back, what is certain he will agree to? Have you ever thought about what horrors he will face if his identity is revealed? and how you would benefit from knowing his identity. Please respect his decision, if he wants to appear then he will definitely show up, we don't need to worry about that for him. There are numbers of reputable people in the forum who knows Satoshi. Thinking of horror from the Governments is illogical. If the government want him, then governments are capable to find him. Indeed, few governments knew Satoshi and his work before the 31 October 2009 in the very early. So, this is just merely an speculation.
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November 04, 2022, 08:23:36 AM |
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You have stated "one vector attack" if he reveals his identity but do you thing Satoshi is interested to attack his own creation ? If he decides to takes control Bitcoin and any other of his Altcoins then why do you thing he cannot do it while he is anonymous ?
Nope, that's not what I meant when I mentioned "vector attack" and mk4 already explained you what I wanted to say by that and I don't even understand how you came to that conclusion. There are numbers of reputable people in the forum who knows Satoshi.
This is just your assumption that is based on nothing really. After all, you know the saying "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". If the government want him, then governments are capable to find him.
I don't think that governments are as capable as you like to think.
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November 04, 2022, 08:23:57 AM |
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Satoshi owes you & owes us NOTHING. He has no pressure to reveal his identity at all. I actually think it’d be detrimental for Satoshi to reveal himself, he would become a mere mortal then.
I think it’d cause all kinds of problems.
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November 04, 2022, 08:43:03 AM |
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Some of the forum members recently celebrated the Bitcoin White Paper Day. Some other have commented and wrote numerous atciales. No one knows the true fact behind 31 October 2008 which Satoshi planed ahead to published the Bitcoin White Paper.
It was really the first " Bitcoin Halluween " and it was a dramatic event. On this day after 15 years on 31 October Satoshi has to get a $30000 dollars Bitcoin loan, which the bloody money lender wants 400% percentage interest from him. The bank denied Satoshi £20 K GB loan to Satoshi to launch the Bitcoin Project in 2007.
Now, Satoshi is a self made Billionaire himself and he made hundreds of people millionaires and supper rich. Hundreds of Thousands of people have become rich with Bitcoin but Satoshi Nakamoto has get a £26 KGB loan. This is a matter real Bitcoin Drama.
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November 04, 2022, 08:55:30 AM |
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.
I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.
What is your opinion ?
Isn't it obvious though that Satoshi will not surface not in this bear market and obviously not in the next bull run. That's why I believed that we should stop this Satoshi goose chase, we won't find his real identity. And I don't see why we need to vote? Again, let's respect Satoshi's decision to go underground and hide himself from the prying eyes of the public. It's enough that we are enjoying his creation. And if Satoshi chooses to do that, then his bitcoin will remain untouched.
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November 04, 2022, 08:56:51 AM |
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.
I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.
What is your opinion ?
Satoshi should've reveal himself from the start if he really wanted to, or even if he does want to reveal himself today, maybe he can't, because no one knows if he's dead or still alive. For me, this is a very childish dream to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is(are), trust me, if he chose to hid his identity from the beginning, I guess we should respect it and leave him in peace.
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November 04, 2022, 09:02:03 AM |
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You have stated "one vector attack" if he reveals his identity but do you thing Satoshi is interested to attack his own creation ? If he decides to takes control Bitcoin and any other of his Altcoins then why do you thing he cannot do it while he is anonymous ?
Nope, that's not what I meant when I mentioned "vector attack" and mk4 already explained you what I wanted to say by that and I don't even understand how you came to that conclusion. There are numbers of reputable people in the forum who knows Satoshi.
This is just your assumption that is based on nothing really. After all, you know the saying "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". If the government want him, then governments are capable to find him.
I don't think that governments are as capable as you like to think. Yes, I clearly remember that phrase " [extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". ] but the evidence requires a £360 KGB to defeat the injustice where a High Court Judge can change the course of judgement by taking $4 millions dollars as bribes.
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November 04, 2022, 09:07:04 AM |
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How long will we continue discussing Satoshi's identity? If he wants to show himself, he will show it himself. As for society, what will we benefit from if he shows his identity? Bitcoin is designed to be decentralized and therefore the appearance of the first developer will not contribute to strengthening the principle of decentralization.
I hope such topics will stop.
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