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November 04, 2022, 08:58:46 PM
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What is your opinion ? 
At this point in time, it is no longer necessary for Satoshi to reveal himself or their selves, for several reasons, and one of this reasons is that Satoshi doing this now will steer up another controversy through out the cryptocurrency space and this controversy might end up having a negative impact on the general cryptocurrency market.
Another thing is that, Satoshi revealing himself now might make him an easy target for the government who are against bitcoin, and some other bitcoin haters, they might believe that since he wrote the code that brought about bitcoin, he has the ability to write another code that might destroy it, so it is better to for Satoshi to just be where ever he is or they are and enjoy his/their money with his/their family.

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November 04, 2022, 09:13:55 PM
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Wow ! Wow ! And Wow !

Great response. Most of the people have responded Satoshi must remain anonymous for ever. That is great. I am agree with you all.

Now, if Satoshi is not left alone to live a peaceful life what every human being deserve for, then what Satoshi Nakamoto should do ?

If some governments' sponsored agents working inside the Bitcoin Space and in this very forum then what Satoshi Nakamoto should do ?

Please answer these two questions logically.

I will appreciate your contribution.




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November 04, 2022, 09:19:28 PM
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Listen, Satoshi is the most intelligent person who creates Bitcoin and he knows what is the better option for him. He won't change his mind due to our nonsense discussion, to be honest. Why should he care what actually world saying? He will reveal himself when he needs to do so. But I don't think it will happen till he is alive. I believe he would do something that will show us who was Satoshi Nakamoto after he leave us. It's just my beliefs, otherwise, the world will never know who was intelligent.
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November 04, 2022, 09:45:42 PM
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Listen, Satoshi is the most intelligent person who creates Bitcoin and he knows what is the better option for him. He won't change his mind due to our nonsense discussion, to be honest. Why should he care what actually world saying? He will reveal himself when he needs to do so. But I don't think it will happen till he is alive. I believe he would do something that will show us who was Satoshi Nakamoto after he leave us. It's just my beliefs, otherwise, the world will never know who was intelligent.


You are right my campaigning manager half. Thank you for your comment. Now, listen carefully. Your assumption is wrong. Satoshi will reveal his identity soon while he is alive. There are tones of valid and legal reason.

Suppose, Satoshi have 100 forum accounts. And he returned to Bitcoin  Forum on the 7 March 2014 in the midnight hours and he posted a message from one of other account because his account known "satoshi" is hijacked by some one.

What exactly happened, then no one believed in him. Then went to his P2P Foundation and posted a single message, " I Not Dorian Nakamoto" there after what exactly happened you might know it.

Now, when Satoshi create a new forum account in a new pseudonym and post messages, then know body know him and every one will think he is a joker and probably a Faketoshi.

I have no concern about, if any one belive or nor but there are few who will understand him by his language or by his IP. What could be their reaction ?

Well when "Satoshi is writing and reading many forum post and no body belive in him, this the greate success. Satoshi is laughing and reading many posts written by many  regarding his disappearance and he is hiding some for fear of governments' agents. He is enjoying his billions of Bitcoin money with lavish style, all these are nonsense.

Please just leave "Satoshi" alone. Stop harassing 'him'. Other wise Satoshi will recite the Bitcoin Big Bang mantra which will create Nuclear Holocast mean, as you sow, so shall you reap.


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November 04, 2022, 10:16:07 PM
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Great response. Most of the people have responded Satoshi must remain anonymous for ever. That is great. I am agree with you all.

Now, if Satoshi is not left alone to live a peaceful life what every human being deserve for, then what Satoshi Nakamoto should do ?

If he never reveals his identity there's really nothing he should worry about.
You said it yourself. He hasn't revealed his identity and people here don't want him to do it so there's nothing else to be said here, case closed.

No agents on this forum can identify him because he's been inactive for years. I'm sure this information is worth millions so if they could do it they would've capitalized on it already.

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November 04, 2022, 10:23:43 PM
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For every human motion, I suppose there must be a substantial reason behind it.
Let's ask ourselves why would Satoshi reveal his identity.
Does Satoshi have to prove that the Bitcoin he created hasn't proved that it is possible to achieve a true peer-to-peer decentralized digital form of money?

I have seen a lot of people talking about this topic and I don't it should be our priority when there are a lot of things on the Bitcoin network that should be our priority, not Satoshi's identity.
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November 04, 2022, 10:27:47 PM
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Wow ! Wow ! And Wow !

Great response. Most of the people have responded Satoshi must remain anonymous for ever. That is great. I am agree with you all.

Now, if Satoshi is not left alone to live a peaceful life what every human being deserve for, then what Satoshi Nakamoto should do ?

If some governments' sponsored agents working inside the Bitcoin Space and in this very forum then what Satoshi Nakamoto should do ?

Please answer these two questions logically.

I will appreciate your contribution.
^You have asked too much, try to analyze first your question if what will happen when satoshi revealed himself in public.
There is nothing satoshi to do even if he/she/they reveal themselves. BTC has value because of the community who supported it, it is (us) who have made the BTC price. Through accumulating and holding in the long run, BTC price will move upward because of the demand and supply, and also the number of lost BTC in their wallet also increase like losing the key. Respect satoshi's decision, this is the goal of BTC to avoid censorship.
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November 04, 2022, 10:30:52 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor.
Why does Satoshi need to reveal his identity? If he decided not to reveal his identity, then respect his decision. He probably have his reasons and I am sure those reasons are pretty much valid. Some people want to know the identity of Satoshi because they are curious. Other oppose it because they believe that if Satoshi reveals his identity, people will look at him as a "leader". A decentralized network cannot have a leader!

The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.
You mean helpful to make a correct decision? No one has to vote or anything. Satoshi can make his own decisions. Like he has decided to keep his identity a secret, he can also make the decision to reveal his identity and no one can say anything or stop him.

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November 04, 2022, 10:58:36 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

first of all bitcoin code is open and clear. there is no secret key no hidden code and no feature that can be locked or unlocked by any individual. so there is no "need" for satoshi to be around in regards to bitcoin code/rules

there is a social interest where some want to know satoshi's life story. some want to know his inspirations or idea's of what could have, or would need to have going forward to make bitcoin better. but thats not a need. thats a want

but again no one should have a central single person in decision power so again not NEEDED but only socially interested to hear from

there is no "he must" return. it makes no difference

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a consensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 

we dont NEED a social consensus about if satoshi should come back. he is a human if he doesnt want to, then thats his decision. no one should force another person to reveal anything the person doesnt want to reveal

bitcoin itself was designed in a way that someone with coin should not be NEEDED/forced/coerced to reveal identity. property/value to someone else.. if someone has bitcoin its their and only their decision if they use it or move it



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You are right. I am fully agree with you. There are people who are speculative regarding "satoshi's" desapearance and reappearance. The matter here I am emphasising is, Satoshi had no interest in Bitcoin since 13 December 2010 until 7 March 2014.

Now my point is, satoshi has never used his Bitcoin for any monetary gaining all these years. There are few greedy men out there want to exploit the anonymity of Satoshi, not only impersonating his Japanese Pseudonym but they are trying to infringe his invention and intellectual properties.

This is an important reason. Craig has applied the Copyright of the Bitcoin WHITE PAPER. Therefore it a valid reason for Satoshi to reveal his identity. He does not have any interest to control the Bitcoin but he is thinking protect Bitcoin from greedy Mafias and other exploiters and scammers.

If Satoshi sell some of his Bitcoins anonymously or sign a message then the forum people will know that he is around but anonymous. Or if he decides to reveal his identity for some other valid reason then the Bitcoin community members cannot stop him. It his own discussion. Therefore, a consensus would be good for him to know the forum members concerns.

There are forum members those who are scarred of thinking if Satoshi return and then they will not able to exploit and control the Bitcoin system software.

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November 04, 2022, 11:05:53 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ?  
The answer is no, satoshi nakamoto doesn't need to reveal any of his informations or his identity or even to come back live again on bitcointalk since his work really reached so much success as being the best crypto currency in the world and the most secured and trustworthy one. He doesn't need to reveal his identity before everyone knows he is so trusted and if governments need to arrest him many people will stand against that. I mean if he ever try to reveal his identity willingly because nobody is able to do now. In all cases i don't believe even the answer will matter that much since our godfather made his decision years ago

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November 04, 2022, 11:57:32 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 

No, Satoshi does not need to reveal his identity at all.

Let's say that you are on of those persons who created a revolutionary product and you also saved thousands of bitcoins at your personal account. Would you reveal your identity to the public? Admittedly, this would be considered suicide both to the government and to the public. The former would definitely question your goals given that you created one of the currency which is responsible for illegal trading under the dark web; and the latter which would haunt you publicly for your funds.

While millions are definitely curious behind the person or group of persons responsible for creating BTC (Satoshi Nakamoto), such person/persons would not reveal their identity at all. In fact, he or they may be even dead at all (due to covid).

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November 05, 2022, 01:00:16 AM
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That was his real name, real person, someone even interviewed him and then bitcoin blew up, then he recanted... is my recollection of the story. Obviously that was the same. I think the idea that nobody knows who it is is sort of urban legend at this point. This sort of reminds me of a joke that Norm Macdonald did which was originally by George Miller..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Xtglzk6JY

So yeah, maybe it was a different Satoshi Nakamoto.
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November 05, 2022, 01:27:37 AM
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I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 
There's no point at all. Even majority wants to know who really Satoshi Nakamoto is, we still can't. Some people already tried to get the identification of Satoshi Nakamoto or even the government already tried, but they fail, they really can't identify who really Satoshi Nakamoto even there are lot of people already claiming that they are Satoshi Nakamoto but failed.

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What is your opinion ? 

IMHO, those who truly believe in Satoshi Nakamoto's work do not have the need to know who he is. Moreover, they do not even want nor have any interest in finding who he is. A true believer already knows that if by any chance his true identity is revealed to the world, his life will be at risk. The most probable outcome would be that the feds would immediately hunt them down.

Actually, the only reason we know that Craig Wright is not the true Nakamoto is that the feds did not run him over...
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November 05, 2022, 08:26:09 PM
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And if the appearance of Satoshi will not have a significant impact, but I do not see the importance of putting forward the idea at all, or for someone to occupy their time thinking about useless scenarios. If Satoshi wants to appear, let him do so. Bitcoin was launched to operate independently and update decisions on the blockchain network are not possible from a central authority. Therefore, the appearance of Satoshi will not have a serious impact, except that his nationality can give his country of origin a prestige, given that it gave birth to a unique personality in its time.
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November 05, 2022, 08:40:31 PM
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For every human motion, I suppose there must be a substantial reason behind it.
Let's ask ourselves why would Satoshi reveal his identity.
Does Satoshi have to prove that the Bitcoin he created hasn't proved that it is possible to achieve a true peer-to-peer decentralized digital form of money?

I have seen a lot of people talking about this topic and I don't it should be our priority when there are a lot of things on the Bitcoin network that should be our priority, not Satoshi's identity.
I don't think btc has an issue. If you mean about its volatility, then it wasn't an issue either but it's an advantage. If it's about the energy concerns well those people who claim btc isn't friendly to the environment are only hyping it. Regulations isn't also needed since btc is supposed to be decentralized. Other than that, I can't think of any.

Maybe people think that those problems will be solved once btc appeared or he can at least defend his invention and there will be no more negative talks after it but there will also be people that will worry if what can happen next. Maybe satoshi will be threatened out or what if he will sell most of his coins? Something like that.

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November 05, 2022, 08:48:34 PM
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Listen, Satoshi is the most intelligent person who creates Bitcoin and he knows what is the better option for him. He won't change his mind due to our nonsense discussion, to be honest. Why should he care what actually world saying? He will reveal himself when he needs to do so. But I don't think it will happen till he is alive. I believe he would do something that will show us who was Satoshi Nakamoto after he leave us. It's just my beliefs, otherwise, the world will never know who was intelligent.

If someone can dare claiming to be Satoshi what extent left couldn't he have claim just to satisfy himself, a confuse entity knows himself but just that he's in search of more people to join in his confusion, we don't know what next will be the show after claiming being Satoshi and saying his identity will be revealed, what next OP? No matter how we convinced him about Satoshi's identity he will still argue his way, what interest him about Satoshi revealing his identity remains a mystery to me, some people are just after raising unnecessary conversation that has no bearing, @Cryptovator, no amount of conviction cwn change his mentality away from causing controversial stir about Satoshi, let's just leave OP maybe he's another version of Craig Wright.



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November 05, 2022, 08:57:50 PM
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My question to OP and anyone claiming to be Satoshi

My question is, if you are truly Satoshi, tell us why you decided to hide your identity after creating bitcoin

AND

Tell us why you have decided to reveal your identity now. What really changed your decision of remaining anonymous?

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November 05, 2022, 09:10:12 PM
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What is your opinion ? 
What correct decision should Satoshi make again when he had made the correct decision in the past? People that make bitcoin to still be existing can conclude that they are all Satoshi which is something very great.

Satoshi not disclose his identity has been what bitcoin community so much appreciate.
Satoshi has its own purpose and I believe that’s what the bitcoin community needed for now, not to reveal Satoshi’s identity which brings even more good to bitcoin. And I guess if he also decides to disclose his identity all of a sudden, probably it will not also make a difference. Bitcoin will always be bitcoin, so no need to change what has happened in the past.

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November 05, 2022, 09:21:25 PM
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And if the appearance of Satoshi will not have a significant impact, but I do not see the importance of putting forward the idea at all, or for someone to occupy their time thinking about useless scenarios. If Satoshi wants to appear, let him do so. Bitcoin was launched to operate independently and update decisions on the blockchain network are not possible from a central authority. Therefore, the appearance of Satoshi will not have a serious impact, except that his nationality can give his country of origin a prestige, given that it gave birth to a unique personality in its time.
He / she disappears for good , for whatever indeed he intended doing so , let's just say he is dead and left us a super huge legacy and then let's end this kind of speculation to save our energy and focus forward on what satoshi has left us.

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