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November 05, 2022, 09:37:50 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 
For me, there is no need to reveal his identity. His decision is what made the bitcoin community right now, and I think we should be thankful for it rather than question him. After all, Satoshi will always receive the acknowledgment from his own invention even if he chose not to disclose his identity anymore. So let’s leave him with that, Satoshi is wise and smart, he knows his decision will always make the bitcoin community create progress and development.

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November 05, 2022, 11:57:59 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor.
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No, no, no, it doesn't work like that, let's have precise data if we want to find out things, how many BTT users want or are interested?

...--//--_ Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

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No, no, no, it doesn't work like that, let's have precise data if we want to find out things, how many BTT users oppose that interest?

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I think satoshi too because he is human like us, we should respect his decision. The discussion about his identity does not benefit bitcoin ...
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Although it is a vicious cyclic point that takes you to the origin of the question.

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November 06, 2022, 06:47:08 AM
Last edit: November 06, 2022, 07:49:18 AM by BitcoinMoses
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My question to OP and anyone claiming to be Satoshi

My question is, if you are truly Satoshi, tell us why you decided to hide your identity after creating bitcoin

AND

Tell us why you have decided to reveal your identity now. What really changed your decision of remaining anonymous?


Your two gentle questions deserve legitimate and good answers. But before, I answer your questions, I must clear your statement first.

# not many people actually claiming to be 'Satoshi' but many people were thought to be 'Satoshi'. Only two or three persons were pushed forward to claim that they are 'Satoshi'. First, was Dorian Nakamoto, who were pushed forward by appointing Leah Goodman the Journalist to create news saga story in early March 2014 but Dorian honestly declined as he has nothing to do with Bitcoin.

There after, in 2015 they pushed forward Craig Wright and in 2016 he were interviewed by BBC, where he hesitantly made an statement, claiming to be 'Satoshi'. Later he is continously dramatising in a corporate manner to monetise the 'satoshi  claim ' globally with lots of cases. He was awarded a title " Faketoshi ". In his own words, " some people will believe and some people won't believe". There after a demand arrisen from the Bitcoin experts  that , " an extra ordinary claims requires and extra ordinary evidence". So, Gavin Andresen who is Australian born US Citizen  Gavin Bell pull back himself supporting the Australian   man Craig Wright.

Your first question: "why you decided to hide your identity after creating bitcoin ?

Well, when I was creating Bitcoin Core and building the Blockchain back in 2007 then I noticed an events were going on behind my back. I analysed it carefully and finally decided to launch the Bitcoin project under pseudonym. So, I planed ahead and chose the pseudonym "Satoshi Nakamoto" to hide my legal name. The main purpose or reason was for security.


Second Question: " What really changed your decision of remaining anonymous?"

There was plan for revealing my identity on 14 February 2020.
Because something went seriously wrong, so I was pushed by someone to reveal my identity as early as 2014. But I waited for another two years to make correct discussion about it. So some pushed me to go with him in a news media but when I went there, the meeting were invaded by a government's intelligence  agent. So, I stopped thinking to rreveal my identity. If I need to reveal my identity I can do it. I will decide whether it is good to reveal my identity or nor. In the Bitcoin Forum I am now Bitcoin Moses or Moses Goldman.

My humble request is please leave me alone.

Unless "they" leave me alone, I will decide to reveal my identity. In reality, if I reveal my identity then nothing will change in Bitcoin or in the Bitcoin market. But something will change in the business life of Bitcoin Whales because I might have to release the Bitcoin Shark for creating balance.

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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.
How big of a presentation between people who want and don't about Satoshi Nakamoto's identity.
He has lived peacefully in the great work he has ever created, it must not be marred by the Identity that some think should be revealed. I want to know which side you should be on when this happens to you, as well as the answers you want to know.

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I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.
The confusion you mean cannot guarantee security for the inventor of bitcoin, the correlation between correct discussion and Satoshi's identity is very far, let him live quietly with loved ones and his work will be remembered throughout the history of human life.
Consciously or not Satoshi has changed many things for development in a more positive direction, bitcoin involvement is a great work that should be maintained without having to know who the creator is, many uses have been made of Bitcoin for people, no awards and no need for identity.
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November 06, 2022, 10:19:49 AM
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Satoshi has its own purpose and I believe that’s what the bitcoin community needed for now, not to reveal Satoshi’s identity which brings even more good to bitcoin. And I guess if he also decides to disclose his identity all of a sudden, probably it will not also make a difference.
If Satoshi disclosed his identity, there could be some difference like people knowing his country, religion and other differences. Some people may start to conclude that bitcoin is becoming to be slightly centralized or centralized like altcoins. But as people do not know about Satoshi, it makes it more decentralized from the beginning while others bitcoin developers also want to keep it like this.

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November 06, 2022, 12:01:47 PM
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Now, if Satoshi is not left alone to live a peaceful life what every human being deserve for, then what Satoshi Nakamoto should do ?
If Satoshi is alive, then he is already living a peaceful life watching how his creation has changed the financial sector for good, people have been trying to discover who is Satoshi, and to reveal his identity to the world, but that has not affected his peace as nobody has been able to lay hands on that discovery because Satoshi did not give anything away that could have been used to successfully trace his pseudonym to his real identity, so Satoshi doesn't have anything to do now, he already did what was important for his anonymity many years ago.
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If some governments' sponsored agents working inside the Bitcoin Space and in this very forum then what Satoshi Nakamoto should do ?
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November 06, 2022, 03:56:47 PM
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My question to OP and anyone claiming to be Satoshi

My question is, if you are truly Satoshi, tell us why you decided to hide your identity after creating bitcoin

AND

Tell us why you have decided to reveal your identity now. What really changed your decision of remaining anonymous?


Your two gentle questions deserve legitimate and good answers. But before, I answer your questions, I must clear your statement first.

Very interesting....
I have not come across you since I joined this forum. I am just having to know you. Many people claiming to be Satoshi in this forum are always trolls and depressed people. But you sound reasonable, which means you actually know the consequences of what you are doing.

Since you are Satoshi and the creator of this forum, Why did you hand over the admin of this forum to theymos? Don't tell me because you wanted to be anonymous, because you can be the admin of this forum and still be anonymous.

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November 06, 2022, 04:25:53 PM
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If Satoshi disclosed his identity, there could be some difference like people knowing his country, religion and other differences. Some people may start to conclude that bitcoin is becoming to be slightly centralized or centralized like altcoins. But as people do not know about Satoshi, it makes it more decentralized from the beginning while others bitcoin developers also want to keep it like this.

It's true, but don't you think that Bitcoin become substantive enough not to be hurt even by it's creator? If it was from the very beginning then definitely knowing of Satoshi's identity changed a lot but as for now... I think most would say thanks and that's all. I don't think he can still influence on Bitcoin even if he can prove his identity. Bitcoin IMO doesn't depend on Satoshi anymore, it is grown up.

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Moses, allow me to play along for a brief moment but my question to you is, how did your command of language regress? Your spelling, grammar... the years appear to have taken their toll. I ask not because I am on higher ground, English is not my mother tongue. I ask from a position of concern. Also, what is your take on Beetcoin?

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November 06, 2022, 05:53:05 PM
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In my opinion, one of the aspects of the magic in Bitcoin is that its inventor is anonymous. The mystery about the origin of Bitcoin and the personality of its inventor increases suspense and excitement and pushes people to turn towards Bitcoin. What will benefit society by revealing the true identity of Satoshi? On the contrary, the Bitcoin community will not benefit anything and at the same time the real Satoshi's life may be in danger and he will be the first wanted by governments, so personally I prefer that Satoshi remain anonymous.

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November 06, 2022, 06:01:31 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 

First of all, it is Satoshi decision to reveal his identity or hide his identity and we have no right to interfere in his decision. So in this case, there is no need to discuss these things as he won't take decisions based on our opinions.
Still, if you ask me, it is better that he does not disclose his identity and remain anonymous. I think if he reveals his identity, the bitcoin price will take a big dump.

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November 06, 2022, 06:02:08 PM
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To anyone reading my reply, please check OP trust feedback or visit See this irrelevant Faketoshi.

It is a no-brainer, why post with another account when satoshi himself has an account here in the forum?  Besides in order to be acknowledged as an owner of the account satoshi if somehow he forgot his login details, he needs to sign a message from an address established as his (satoshi) in this forum proving that he is the same person.  He doesn't need to emphasize in his every post that he is satoshi.

Anyway better to be left satoshi anonymous than to be claimed by faketoshi.

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November 06, 2022, 07:11:07 PM
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If we like, let everyone vote that Satoshi should reveal his identity, he would not because it is a personal matter. And why do you think that he should reveal his identity, is there any specific reason attached to it. Those cryptocurrencies creators that have revealed themselves in the crypto world, what have you or they have done?
The world is not like before even before the world was not good so there no need to show his face to the world.

If Satoshi reveal his identity, the world powers might force to devalue Bitcoin or they would enact a policy that will affect the coin and him so let it be like this.

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November 06, 2022, 07:18:59 PM
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First not all really want to know the true identity of Satoshi some just want to make up their post count or just boredom.
I don't think I want to know the identity of a man who chooses not to be known. Who ever satoshi was(group or individual) he was definitely articulate and transparent. Bitcoin was so planned that everything lay down and not to even require the presence of the creator anymore.

I would be intrigued to see who this person was when ever the true identity is revealed, but I am not overly concerned about it.
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November 06, 2022, 07:57:12 PM
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For every human motion, I suppose there must be a substantial reason behind it.
Let's ask ourselves why would Satoshi reveal his identity.
Does Satoshi have to prove that the Bitcoin he created hasn't proved that it is possible to achieve a true peer-to-peer decentralized digital form of money?

I have seen a lot of people talking about this topic and I don't it should be our priority when there are a lot of things on the Bitcoin network that should be our priority, not Satoshi's identity.
I don't think btc has an issue. If you mean about its volatility, then it wasn't an issue either but it's an advantage. If it's about the energy concerns well those people who claim btc isn't friendly to the environment are only hyping it. Regulations isn't also needed since btc is supposed to be decentralized. Other than that, I can't think of any.
I wasn't talking about Bitcoin volatility as an issue but I was talking about possible things that could be drawbacks for Bitcoin to be used as mainstream and the eschelon of electric power with the carbon which some people hype that BTC mining injected much of it into the atmosphere.
Nonetheless, regulation is not needed but you're not saying the language the government understands and if we want BTC to reach the mainstream payment we have to welcome their regulation.

Maybe people think that those problems will be solved once btc appeared or he can at least defend his invention and there will be no more negative talks after it but there will also be people that will worry if what can happen next. Maybe satoshi will be threatened out or what if he will sell most of his coins? Something like that.
After he has left all the cases of Bitcoin to the community. i don't this is what people thought because it is their curiosity about who Satoshi is that led to this type of question.
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November 06, 2022, 08:16:15 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 
Even there will be a consensus that has been built, there's no way to identify who satoshi nakamoto really is. Just put that into grave that we'll never know who exactly he is.
He has introduced bitcoin as anonymous and now, he's maintained his position to be anonymous so that it'll be the same as him. Let's just leave this as one of the most interesting mystery that we'll never know.

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November 06, 2022, 08:42:29 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 
Millions of people across the planet already came to the consensus that he should at least give us a hint of who they are, if not outright reveal themselves in public. Yet as it stands today, they seem indignant in keeping their identity in obscurity. Besides, nothing will really come from him revealing who they are. Bitcoin is already great as it is. What part of them revealing their identity is going to benefit bitcoin or cryptocurrencies as a whole? This discussion has been brought up countless of times. They don't need to reveal themselves because they already gave us the greatest gift in the form of bitcoin. Let's just keep it that way and reinvest our energies to something that is actually gonna benefit the whole industry, like maybe active involvement in activities that will hasten the onboard of crypto utilization to the general public.

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November 06, 2022, 08:58:07 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 
Even there will be a consensus that has been built, there's no way to identify who satoshi nakamoto really is. Just put that into grave that we'll never know who exactly he is.
He has introduced bitcoin as anonymous and now, he's maintained his position to be anonymous so that it'll be the same as him. Let's just leave this as one of the most interesting mystery that we'll never know.
You cant really avoid for people not to look up on the origin of something like Bitcoin which we know that this creation did really make out that huge breakthrough considering this do really involves
anonymity and decentralization where i couldn't really blame those people who had this kind of thriving out to seek on whats the truth.We know that Satothis identity mystery had been always a question
even up to these years or a decades time on whose behind but since he had decided for himself not to show himself into the public then lets just respect on his decision.
We know that showing himself into the community or public will really boost up even more on Bitcoin but now we are seeing the opposite side of things.
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November 06, 2022, 09:20:05 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 
Even there will be a consensus that has been built, there's no way to identify who satoshi nakamoto really is. Just put that into grave that we'll never know who exactly he is.
He has introduced bitcoin as anonymous and now, he's maintained his position to be anonymous so that it'll be the same as him. Let's just leave this as one of the most interesting mystery that we'll never know.
You cant really avoid for people not to look up on the origin of something like Bitcoin which we know that this creation did really make out that huge breakthrough considering this do really involves
anonymity and decentralization where i couldn't really blame those people who had this kind of thriving out to seek on whats the truth.We know that Satothis identity mystery had been always a question
even up to these years or a decades time on whose behind but since he had decided for himself not to show himself into the public then lets just respect on his decision.
We know that showing himself into the community or public will really boost up even more on Bitcoin but now we are seeing the opposite side of things.
It's just best to remain as is and what it is. He has proven his or their worth to be kept anonymous and hidden for several years and it's just best to be like that forever.
Even how hard we want to know who satoshi really is, if there were consensus before that would like to know the real him, they've done it before but, it just increased the number of impostors portraying as him without valid evidence.

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November 06, 2022, 11:35:52 PM
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He does not have to reveal his identity especially after more than 13 years. Very impressive to be able to stay unknown all those years, especially with how BTC as grow
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