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November 07, 2022, 05:41:07 AM
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If he has choosen to keep his identity secret then why are we always running behind disclosing or intrested in the same matter always? I am also curious on the question that why it's necessary for him to come up in the public? Does bitcoin working is not smooth in his absence so why always the same messed up questions I don't know.We here in forum needs privacy and if he has choosen it we should respect it.

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November 07, 2022, 10:03:14 AM
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My question to OP and anyone claiming to be Satoshi

My question is, if you are truly Satoshi, tell us why you decided to hide your identity after creating bitcoin

AND

Tell us why you have decided to reveal your identity now. What really changed your decision of remaining anonymous?


Your two gentle questions deserve legitimate and good answers. But before, I answer your questions, I must clear your statement first.

Very interesting....
I have not come across you since I joined this forum. I am just having to know you. Many people claiming to be Satoshi in this forum are always trolls and depressed people. But you sound reasonable, which means you actually know the consequences of what you are doing.

Since you are Satoshi and the creator of this forum, Why did you hand over the admin of this forum to theymos? Don't tell me because you wanted to be anonymous, because you can be the admin of this forum and still be anonymous.

   * Why did you hand over the admin of this forum to theymos?

Another, classified question you have asked. Also you made sophisticated suggestion regarding my annonimity.

You seems like you are verymuch well known and well informed person in the forum. To answer your third question, I am verymuch upset, because you have reminded me some things 100% sensitive matters. But, I will give you the answer just to satisfy your interest.

The account "Theymos" is belong to me. I did not given this account to someone to hide my identity for anonymous purpose. The first account of this forum is the 'admin'. The entity who controlling my account known as "Theymos" is an alien, an AI. He work as an agent in government's secret service. The Cosmological Genetic Code of this AI is MF508-R2N3. Who unconsciously working very hard for my Bitcoin Forum. He is an extraordinary Bitcoin Whale. Soon, I will award him an accreditation with a Doctorate Degree for his contribution to Bitcoin Community.


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November 07, 2022, 02:38:06 PM
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If satoshi were still alive, I think identifying himself could only be a bad thing, for both him/her and Bitcoin in general. Before you know it people would be tearing satoshi apart and trying to find any reason to label Bitcoin’s creator a scammer. They would use satoshi’s political thoughts to divide the community and his past as a reason why Bitcoin is a scam. Not to mention governments coming after satoshi for tax liabilities or criminals trying to kidnap satoshi for ransom… There’s a lot of bad and no good that would come from identifying satoshi.

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November 07, 2022, 03:36:33 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 
One thing is certain that will happen if satoshi reveals his true identity, it is the tremendous terror of the government, his/her fans, and his/her haters. it's more beautiful and calm if we stay like this, keep speculating about who the real satoshi is and still assume anyone who claims to be a satoshi is fake.



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November 07, 2022, 03:42:21 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 
One thing is certain that will happen if satoshi reveals his true identity, it is the tremendous terror of the government, his/her fans, and his/her haters. it's more beautiful and calm if we stay like this, keep speculating about who the real satoshi is and still assume anyone who claims to be a satoshi is fake.

Yes, you are very right! Also, his life wouldn't be as private as before. This is difficult if you are famous; you can only do things easily with your bodyguard. There were still many people who would be thanking him or her for his or her creation, which is very majestic and helpful to all of us. It is best to remain anonymous, whether he or she is still alive or not. I hope he is happy with his/her creation now that everyone is almost using it and many people profit from it. A lot of people claim to be Satoshi but have no solid proof at all, and Satoshi is really hiding his/her identity just to keep himself/herself safe.
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November 07, 2022, 04:02:04 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 
I stand in the opinion that, the identity still remain anonymous and that there is no reason to conducting a consensus since it doesn't affect the activities and processes of the forum.
I also think the safety of Bitcoin has long been kept assured because of the anonymity of the founder and that singular act of his, has kept him away from threats and I'm sure no one would easily influence Satoshi to revealing his identity.

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November 07, 2022, 05:44:15 PM
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If he has choosen to keep his identity secret then why are we always running behind disclosing or intrested in the same matter always? I am also curious on the question that why it's necessary for him to come up in the public? Does bitcoin working is not smooth in his absence so why always the same messed up questions I don't know.We here in forum needs privacy and if he has choosen it we should respect it.

Respecting someone's decision is right and positive but people usually don't. Gossip about rich and famous is one of the most popular topics, so Satoshi's identity would be in a focus of interest for years. And he was smart enough to use a pseudonym working on Bitcoin so now he can still stay anonymous if this is his choice (and doesn't matter if not everyone respects that, he can anyway).

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November 07, 2022, 06:34:07 PM
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What is your opinion ? 

I oppose Satoshi disclosing his genuine identity; for goodness sake, why does it have to happen? I believe that if he stays anonymous forever, bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will have a bright future. Governments are accustomed to controlling and regulating new technologies around them, therefore the fact that they are unable to regulate bitcoin may be due to Satoshi's anonymous identity, which is what I think it is. As long as the future of bitcoin remains secure, as he stated in his final messages sent before going missing, there is no need for consensus on this; let him remain anonymous.

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November 07, 2022, 08:05:04 PM
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What is your opinion ?  

I oppose Satoshi disclosing his genuine identity; for goodness sake, why does it have to happen? I believe that if he stays anonymous forever, bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will have a bright future. Governments are accustomed to controlling and regulating new technologies around them, therefore the fact that they are unable to regulate bitcoin may be due to Satoshi's anonymous identity, which is what I think it is. As long as the future of bitcoin remains secure, as he stated in his final messages sent before going missing, there is no need for consensus on this; let him remain anonymous.

Your statement does not make any sense. First part of it, which you suggested that the Bitcoin inventors genuine identity should be continously remain anonymous and it is good for Bitcoin and the Bitcoin community. Which I am also agree in some extend.

But you have also stated that if "Satoshi" remain anonymous the government won't be able to regulate Bitcoin, it is not correct. You are wrong. Bitcoin is decentralise its transaction mechanism through the Cryptographic Blockchain techology.

If the government want to regulate the government's around the world are eligible to do it, if whether its inventor is anonymous or known. The UK Parliament and the Law Commision has passed the law to regulate Bitcoin. Regulating Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency is not bad thing. When government regulate Bitcoin its government has accepted Bitcoin as a financial asset class and payment system therefore the government will provide some kind of rules for investors security purposes and for taxing Bitcoin.

Now, revealing Identity of its inventor or remaing anonymous will not change anything at all. Those who strongly opposing to reveal the Bitcoin inventors identity have different agendas. According to Bitcoin invention and its implementation rules, I did set up a plan back in 2007. Some people think the, "pseudonymous Satoshi" hide himself from Bitcoin Forum on 13 December 2010 because of Gavin Andresen went to CIA for discloser for Bitcoin. This is utterly nonsense.

I planned ahead to stop communicating from Bitcoin Forum on that date and disappeared forever. But I had a second plan, which is if it is necessary I will reveal my identity on 14 February 2020. But as you do not know the whole classified side of Bitcoin invention and its market development so you do not understand the real matter.

I am sure that Bitcoin protocole working well but why do you think it's inventor is not around and you all the developers running it and updating the Bitcoin Core Software, I must remain anonymous. You who claim, that you all are "Satoshi" that is fine. I have no problem with it but the truth I have been suffering since the beginning of Bitcoin invention gravely. This is unbearable. I have been cornered by the so called government's agent for a long time. Now, enough is enough. You want me to remain fully anonymous there is no problem in it for me. Few greedy Bitcoin developers and few agents together have asulted me and my family and friends and collaborators. What they have done is utterly evil to man' who has done no wrong to them. There is a time for everything.

It is time for me to reveal my identity. If you prefer me not to reveal my identity you must have genuine ground to advise me not to reveal my identity.


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November 08, 2022, 07:23:44 PM
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I oppose Satoshi disclosing his genuine identity; for goodness sake, why does it have to happen? I believe that if he stays anonymous forever, bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will have a bright future. Governments are accustomed to controlling and regulating new technologies around them, therefore the fact that they are unable to regulate bitcoin may be due to Satoshi's anonymous identity, which is what I think it is. As long as the future of bitcoin remains secure, as he stated in his final messages sent before going missing, there is no need for consensus on this; let him remain anonymous.

What can governments do except they can do now if they'll officially know Satoshi's identity? Bitcoin is a decentralized system and can resist even it's first creator. Of cource Satoshi still has moral authority and can suggest something that would carefully considered by community, but insisting on some regulations inside blockchain IMO is out of his jurisdiction already. So governments woun't get any benefits from revealing his identity.

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November 08, 2022, 08:53:53 PM
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There are numbers of reputable  people in the forum who knows Satoshi. Thinking of horror from the Governments is illogical. If the government want him, then governments are capable to find him. Indeed, few governments knew Satoshi and his work before the 31 October 2009 in the very early. So, this is just merely an speculation.
Are you serious? That some reputable members of the forum know Satoshi. I can't digest or believe this information cos Satoshi didn't make himself known to any of the forum members. Nobody knows his true identity other than the post he made in this forum. From what I have heard, Satoshi made himself anonymous after the creation of the bitcoin. There's no way the government can't find him, if they want to

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November 08, 2022, 09:32:32 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 
This will only make things complicated. For me, there’s no reason at all to disclose the personal identity of Satoshi, just leave it uncertain. Besides, it won’t change the system anymore. Bitcoin has already been successful in its more than a decade of existence, so I think the uncertainty of Satoshi has even helped bitcoin to succeed. And FYI, Satoshi will never do this without valid reason, and his reason has made bitcoin of what it is today.

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November 08, 2022, 09:45:57 PM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 
While others are not seeing this a big deal, then there you are confusing your mind. Again, this is not a problem for us to solve, let Satoshi handle it effortlessly. Just focus on what it has done to bitcoin that made it succeeded for a couple of years. And think of it, if Satoshi will end up showing in the spotlight, will the people believe him or just doubt of his sudden appearance? Still it’s a useless thing at the end of the day.

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November 08, 2022, 09:49:50 PM
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We don't need to see who the real Satoshi is. Besides his identity will not benefit us or anyone.
I think his/her anonymity helps cryptocurrency be more valuable and safe.
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November 08, 2022, 11:59:30 PM
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Satoshi do not have to reveal himself so that the Bitcoin market which controls the entire market will not crash. If the Bitcoin market crashes, all other cryptocurrencies will crash too so we don't have to think twice of the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto to be reveal to the public. Since the birth of Bitcoin, everything had been going well and the Bitcoin has been doing well if not for the bear market that looks like the market is already fallen. We goes down must comes up so we don't need to stress our motive of holding Bitcoin now so that we will not regret later.

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November 09, 2022, 01:40:56 AM
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On my wild guess I'm deeply believe IMHO satoshi is elon.. Don't quote me on that tho  Cheesy
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November 09, 2022, 05:20:05 AM
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There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ?  

I really do not see any reason why Satoshi should reveal his identity. It is to me inconsequential. What benefits would knowing his identity bring to you?

I think it is better for all of us if his identity continues to be anonymous.

You don't need to be confused about anything, except of course someone's life depends on it.  Let Satoshi be whoever he wants to be.

At this point, even if the true Satoshi makes a public appearance, people will still not believe it.

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November 10, 2022, 12:55:36 AM
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If whether it is good for the Bitcoin inventor to reveal his identity or nor ? On this regard, some say it is good and some say it is not good. In reality, if the Bitcoin inventor is publicly known then two major things can happen. The first is there will be no more Faketoshis and people will stop searching for The real Bitcoin inventor. Second, Bitcoin blockchain definitely will become a Nobel Prize worthy financial invention and there will mass Bitcoin adoption in the world.

This will enhance the distribution of new wealth justifiably to every citizen of the world and the Gold will dug back from its vault and it will go to the jewellery shop to beautify ladies.


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November 11, 2022, 05:41:47 AM
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No need to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. The biggest feature of Bitcoin is anonymity. It is precisely because Satoshi Nakamoto has not appeared in these years that the popularity of Bitcoin is getting higher and higher. Some media outlets rely on mining Satoshi Nakamoto to raise awareness. It can be said that Nakamoto also supports a large number of new media people.
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November 11, 2022, 05:53:16 AM
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On my wild guess I'm deeply believe IMHO satoshi is elon.. Don't quote me on that tho  Cheesy

This is a very bold guess, not impossible, maybe Zuckerberg? But it doesn't matter now, what matters is that the underlying technology of the blockchain has been applied. A new economic and financial order is being established, and of course breaking the established order will certainly be difficult. But I believe in one sentence: if you don't experience the pain of childbirth, where will you be born?
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