Thinking about opening a cryptocasino

[o48o]

1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount
2) we are also going to have a live casino
3) we are going to accept privacy coins like XMR
4) You can place bets over the phone 24/7
5) Is going to be available worldwide

And how does this work exactly? I would be amazed if you pulled something like this off. With smart contracts or something?
I imagine that you have done your research and need a license, and to get that license there's ton of red tape, including aml laws that require blacklisting some people.

And don't you think that if this sort of casino / betting site was possible, there would already be hundreds of them. So please. Enlight us how you are cutting trough the red tape and found this betting holy grail when others couldn't.

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[acroman08]

as you can see members are sceptical about the "never going to ask for KYC". we've seen a lot of casinos come and go here in the forum that mentions they are not going to ask for KYC yet their ToS says otherwise. just like what UserU have said, in the end, the casino will ultimately protect its own interest.

[Jemzx00]

In short, your casino will have the ideal concept of most gamblers would like in an online crypto casino.

Just as everyone has mentioned in regard to the first feature on a fully anonymous casino, I doubt that you'll be able to proceed with it not requiring users to do the KYC process as it'll cause a lot of trouble on the casino itself such as licensure issue, fraudulent activities, abusers and much more that will be against the casino.

It's a nice idea but I don't think that you'll be able to push through with all the features you've mentioned. Even if you do, I'm going to pass on this one as it is too good to be true. Let's see about your casino in a month. Good luck!

[Mr. Magkaisa]

1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount

  - No offense to you OP, but I doubt what you said. Do you know that as far as I know, many people make such rules and regulations in crypto gambling that usually in the end they do not fulfill what you said?

That's why I've seen a lot of people complaining that this is the reason for most gamblers, they say there are no KYC rules, but when they are about to release the winnings of large amounts, the gambling platform suddenly asks the gambler to provide KYC. theirs.

How can it be proven that you will do and fulfill this thing without KYC? Are you sure? it's even better to say no early so that other gamblers don't waste their time, then others are okay to submit KYC as long as it is under government regulation.

[jrrsparkles]

Hi well we are in the process of opening a crypto casino and sportsbook we hope is ready in one month

Some features of our casino / sportsbook:
1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount
2) we are also going to have a live casino
3) we are going to accept privacy coins like XMR
4) You can place bets over the phone 24/7
5) Is going to be available worldwide

what else should we add?

Let us know

Basically you're creating a casino with no knowledge at all, you can't operate a casino where it is banned legally by the government so no casino can exist worldwide and more to that different countries have different restrictions which forces the casinos to collect more personal data and other information and has to be reported to IRS and respective officials whenever its needed.

I would like to have one as you mentioned but practically it is not possible, anyway the point you asked add instant withdrawal and zero fee is possible.

[coinerer]

Hi well we are in the process of opening a crypto casino and sportsbook we hope is ready in one month

Some features of our casino / sportsbook:
1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount

Most gamblers try to hide themselves and find KYC free casinos .your casino offering 100% anonymous feature . then how about casino licence . is Your casino is properly licensed ? As far as I know if you want to get a casino license then you must have a rules and regulation on your site and ask users for kyc for high amount bets and withdrawal.  Because bad things like money laundering are done through gambling.  And this is a crime

2) we are also going to have a live casino

Ok this is great and common features

3) we are going to accept privacy coins like XMR

Yes this is a good feature and it allows users to deposit quickly with untracked transcation

[Mate2237]

Hi well we are in the process of opening a crypto casino and sportsbook we hope is ready in one month

Some features of our casino / sportsbook:
1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount
2) we are also going to have a live casino
3) we are going to accept privacy coins like XMR
4) You can place bets over the phone 24/7
5) Is going to be available worldwide

what else should we add?

Let us know

1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount

I doubt you will be able to do that. The biggest challenge for a casino is to fight against the frauds. Bonus abusers will make your life as hell and eventually they will take your profits resulting the business down. However it you can afford to be 100% anonymous then good luck :-)

what else should we add?

Launch it then you can add any feature on demand. I wonder which provider you are going with?

Have regular offers and do effective promotions in all possible advertising networks including on the forum. Feel free to contact me for bitcointalk promotion if you decide.

Experience is the best teacher as it is said. Royse777 has experience all the things you need to know because he has experienced it from bitlucy, mostly the bonus abusers, and multiple accounts owners, therefore I suggest that you should listen to his advices and also ask him more.


OP since you are not using KYC, how are you going to detect your customers sincerity? What I will say is that, your payment system should be very smooth to your customers both in the site and here if there will be any campaign. You should add Bitcoin as the Major currency for payment.

[Betcrypto.cr]

About #1, many casinos have touted this but in the end, it's ultimately to protect the casino's interests.

Are you sure you guys aren't gonna process KYC in case some withdraws or deposits are suspicious?

No we would never ask for KYC i prefer to first close it before doing KYC

[goldkingcoiner]

Hi well we are in the process of opening a crypto casino and sportsbook we hope is ready in one month

Some features of our casino / sportsbook:
1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount
2) we are also going to have a live casino
3) we are going to accept privacy coins like XMR
4) You can place bets over the phone 24/7
5) Is going to be available worldwide

what else should we add?

Let us know

1. Ok, I find it noble that you do not wish to demand/store personal info but your casino being 100% anonymous not only sounds shady but it would actually discourage me from depositing my funds on your platform.

2. 24/7 live? Or just live sometimes? Also what exactly do you mean by live casino?

3. Thats great. XMR is a great altcoin for privacy. Although that might become an issue if there are problems with the deposits and the users cannot definitively prove its their XMR.

4. Why would anyone want to bet over the phone? Sounds like a system that can easily be abused by malicious hackers.

5. You might get into trouble with foreign regulators if your casino proves not to be 100% anonymous.

[Betcrypto.cr]

Previously you created a thread about your plan to develop raffle game, an hour later you created this thread and you are going to open a crypto casino/sportsbook. My question, is the raffle game will be one of your game in your crypto casino site or you will have 2 different sites? 1 for the raffle and 1 other for the casino/sportsbook?

1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount

Is it even possible to have 100% anonymous? How about license? Afaik, crypto casino and sportsbook are always dealing with gambling license and one of the terms is related to KYC. Does it mean that you will not have a license for your casino/sportsbook?

what else should we add?

It will to write what you should add if your main focus is only the 5 above features. I suggest you to learn from the older successful casino/sportsbook to see what they have and what they dont have. Follow what they have that attract players and add what they dont have to be more attractive for players.

About the raffle yeah it is going to be on a separate site

I was born in Costa Rica and still live in Costa Rica so i will follow my country regulation so with current regulation i can operate legally an anonymous crypto casino

[UserU]

2. 24/7 live? Or just live sometimes? Also what exactly do you mean by live casino?

I think he meant those casinos from Pragmatic, Evolution, etc... whereby there are live dealers

[Betcrypto.cr]

1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount

I doubt you will be able to do that. The biggest challenge for a casino is to fight against the frauds. Bonus abusers will make your life as hell and eventually they will take your profits resulting the business down. However it you can afford to be 100% anonymous then good luck :-)

what else should we add?

Launch it then you can add any feature on demand. I wonder which provider you are going with?

Have regular offers and do effective promotions in all possible advertising networks including on the forum. Feel free to contact me for bitcointalk promotion if you decide.

Sure we are going to contact you, about the bonus abusers we have to see how to deal with them i think we will sacrifice bonus to be able to run a 100% KYC free casino

100% Anonymous? I will wait until an official announcement of your casino in the next month, if I found there's a KYC rule on your terms of service, I will give you neutral tag since you're mislead a gambler, it's okay right?

Since you're also accept Monero which is a privacy coins, does it's possible for your casino to have onion address? so people can use Tor browser in order to achieve 100% privacy advantage or at least you can accept VPN usage.

Yeah that is okay , i will always keep my word, 100% KYC FREE CASINO

About the Tor address is not possible we use Javascript for some functions of the site

2) we are also going to have a live casino

Nice to see another crypto casino coming next month. It's always great to check out a new websites and see their games. I hope you are successful and can make it work in the gambling industry. Especially your second part sounds very promising, we don't have many casinos with live gambling yet and it would be a good alternative to see actual games and not only virtual ones for a change. One more thing you should be adding if you have the time would be a chat function, so you can interact with other gamblers during the live casino games. Going into sports betting and casino gambling all at once it a lot of work. But your timing is not bad, launching during the christmas period should attract a lot of new customers.  Let's hope you will run some special promotions for the friends here on the forum.

Thanks the live casino has a live chat function you can talk with the playes and to the dealer look  https://imgur.com/a/m5A214t

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[Hispo]

About #1, many casinos have touted this but in the end, it's ultimately to protect the casino's interests.

Are you sure you guys aren't gonna process KYC in case some withdraws or deposits are suspicious?

No we would never ask for KYC i prefer to first close it before doing KYC

I like your enthusiasm but I believe you are underestimating the implications of running a no-KYC casino.
I have never worked for a casino or ran one but I don't have to run it to know your promise will be hard to keep.

Let us assume you launch your casino, you do not do KYC and you even accept Monero, with time you casino starts having profits, thousands and thousands of dollars because your platform is well received, but whether you like it or not, when your casino grows big enough it will attract people seeking to mix and launder funds.

In the end, your casino could end up holding and even distributing Bitcoin an altcoins obtained through cyber crime, you would likely receive e-mails from law enforcement agencies and then you would need to decide whether close your casino or ask for KYC and other measures.

It would be difficult for me to close a business which is generating thousands of dollars, to be honest.

[TimeTeller]

About #1, many casinos have touted this but in the end, it's ultimately to protect the casino's interests.

Are you sure you guys aren't gonna process KYC in case some withdraws or deposits are suspicious?

No we would never ask for KYC i prefer to first close it before doing KYC

I like your enthusiasm but I believe you are underestimating the implications of running a no-KYC casino.
I have never worked for a casino or ran one but I don't have to run it to know your promise will be hard to keep.

Let us assume you launch your casino, you do not do KYC and you even accept Monero, with time you casino starts having profits, thousands and thousands of dollars because your platform is well received, but whether you like it or not, when your casino grows big enough it will attract people seeking to mix and launder funds.

In the end, your casino could end up holding and even distributing Bitcoin an altcoins obtained through cyber crime, you would likely receive e-mails from law enforcement agencies and then you would need to decide whether close your casino or ask for KYC and other measures.

It would be difficult for me to close a business which is generating thousands of dollars, to be honest.

I can agree that they don't need to give statement that is hard to keep.
Since they will be following the Costa Rica regulations when it comes to gambling, who knows in the future
their casino and bookie will be in the hot position as you said, when they are already earning not only thousands but millions of profits?
For now, I can understand they won't be asking KYC but they should be open to this possible scenario.
Let us wait now if they can truly attract gamblers. It is not because of no kyc but sometimes it is how the site is treating their players.
Don't forget the ToS and FAQ sections on the site once launched.

[Betcrypto.cr]

4) You can place bets over the phone 24/7

will it be available in the app

5) Is going to be available worldwide

This is only possible if the casino you are going to build is not licensed, but without a license there will be doubts about the new casino you are building because players doubt how trusted you are.

Some that can attract players, bonuses, rakeback, lossback.

No, it will only be available via our website

Well, we are using a Costa Rica license so we can accept bets from anyone anywhere also i am from Costa Rica so i will only follow Costa Rican Gambling law

yeah, we need to think a way to offer bonus and don't get target by bonus cheaters

[Haunebu]

No KYC as many posters above mentioned is a tough sell, but it's not impossible which is why actions speak louder than words in this context.

Am not interested in placing bets over the phone which is why you guys need to provide a great interface to help gamblers place bets. Time will prove whether your words hold weight or not op. All the best!

[Betcrypto.cr]

Hi well we are in the process of opening a crypto casino and sportsbook we hope is ready in one month

Some features of our casino / sportsbook:
1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount
2) we are also going to have a live casino
3) we are going to accept privacy coins like XMR
4) You can place bets over the phone 24/7
5) Is going to be available worldwide

what else should we add?

Let us know

I am quoting your original post OP, so that you cannot edit it in the future or remove it, when you implement full KYC requirements. I am doing this, because a lot of "new" casinos come with promises like this ..and the moment when they have acquired enough gamblers, they start asking for KYC verification. (changing the business model into a legitimate operation)

The "new" casinos do this, because they are building the Bankroll in the early stages and they also build a user base. Then the regulators take notice and they panic and they are forced to implement KYC requirements. 

Thanks sure you can quote me but well we are not going to panic we are in order with my country laws


We are never going to ask for KYC it is not impossible Costa Rican gambling laws allow us to don't ask for KYC we don't have the need to be over compliance

Hi well we are in the process of opening a crypto casino and sportsbook we hope is ready in one month

Some features of our casino / sportsbook:
1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount
2) we are also going to have a live casino
3) we are going to accept privacy coins like XMR
4) You can place bets over the phone 24/7
5) Is going to be available worldwide

what else should we add?

Let us know

Many casinos that are head bent on customers verifying their account before withdrawing a certain amount of money started like this, by tell customer that they are a zero kyc casino, but at the end of it all, it all ends up as a big lie.
What i would tell you is that it is very difficult, if not actually impossible, to successfully run a casino globally without kyc verification, if you were launching a casino for your community or for within your locality, your zero kyc claim will be very understandable, but here you are, claiming to be launching a casino that will be operational worldwide, even in countries where gambling is not legal, and you believe it is possible to operate this kind of casino without implementing kyc, this is impossible bro.

I paid a lawyer to check my country gambling laws ( Costa Rica)
 We can take bets worldwide and also don't ask for KYC, i don't create the laws, i follow them so it is possible at least from here

Hi well we are in the process of opening a crypto casino and sportsbook we hope is ready in one month

Some features of our casino / sportsbook:
1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount
2) we are also going to have a live casino
3) we are going to accept privacy coins like XMR
4) You can place bets over the phone 24/7
5) Is going to be available worldwide

what else should we add?

Let us know

I guess that we are missing Sports Bet Trading in the Crypto casino sector. All those features are great yeah which proves your team is on a good track. However, having a casino Website that offered players the chance of Sports bet Trading features much like Betfair has would be a must. Could you guys consider adding this option?


If you by any chance decide to add this sort of feature I will definitely use your casino.

Thanks sure i will talk to my team maybe we can add a sport trading feature

To be clear. Does your casino will have a license to operate right because you are offering games from erd party provider. How can you guarantee that you will never ask KYC if your license is strictly requiring it for AML policy?

For me, I just want to see an assurance that you are legit and offers a bonus that is not bullshit and fair for both players and casino at the same time. Most of the bonus of new casino nowadays is backed by bullshit ToS that always in favor with the casino. Just give as an exclusive bonus dedicated for Bitcointalk user and fast customer support to attend all the issue of the players.

We have a Costa Rica license, sure we can do a Bitcointalk exclusive bonus we just need to find a way to deal with the bonus cheaters without implementing KYC

Hi well we are in the process of opening a crypto casino and sportsbook we hope is ready in one month

Some features of our casino / sportsbook:
1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount
2) we are also going to have a live casino
3) we are going to accept privacy coins like XMR
4) You can place bets over the phone 24/7
5) Is going to be available worldwide

what else should we add?

Let us know

I can easily tell that you did not do a comprehensive study on how to launch a casino you're just taking us for a ride

1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount

How are you going to do that how are you going to address cheaters and abusers you just open your casino to scammers to use your casino to launder their money, expect authorities to trace you and accuse you of condoning or supporting scammers

5) Is going to be available worldwide

Whoever hosts your casino will take it down for allowing people from restricted countries to gamble, these countries only need to contact your hosting provider.

You are launching a too-good-to-be-true casino when it's too good to be true in casino its a suspect to turn to a scam casino

Well i prefer to ask before developing something people don't want

We are in order with my country gambling law regulation

The servers are in Costa Rica and they have 0 problem with online casinos, i know the owner in person


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[Hamphser]

-Good user interface
-Instant withdrawals
-Fast and active support
-Offer something which hadn't be seen on this market.


Having no KYC? It would be better that it would be proven out because not all does end up with their promises and ending up on having that KYC
 specially if they would really be getting some license. So i dont really make myself confident on imposing such thing
and sticking with it.

[Betcrypto.cr]

1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount

This only possible if you will not apply for any license, but once you enter regulations you have to force the gambler to provide KYC especially if the amount is big because there's a regulation about money laundering.

4) You can place bets over the phone 24/7

There's no need for this, signing-in will do better as it gives more options to gamblers. Better to have an auto bet option even if you are offline.
Anyway, its good to ask for some insights first before going live, I hope you get the best recommendation here and would love to see your final output with your site, make it more rewarding as well.

Well we are going to only use the Costa Rica license i live in Costa Rica i don't need another license

Thanks

Hi well we are in the process of opening a crypto casino and sportsbook we hope is ready in one month

Some features of our casino / sportsbook:
1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount
2) we are also going to have a live casino
3) we are going to accept privacy coins like XMR
4) You can place bets over the phone 24/7
5) Is going to be available worldwide

what else should we add?

Let us know

Good impression but it would be a lot of work especially creating it accessible around the world. That would include huge costings as well. Still a broad description for me. But since your main platform is sportsbook aside from being a casino, you should as well highlight it to the extent of how will you create or apply it in your platform which would compete with many gambling sites at this moment. KYC on the other hand is a small thing to other players because some of the players are just using names which aren't them. Making a more detailed list would be better if you really want to catch the audience as early as now.

To be clear. Does your casino will have a license to operate right because you are offering games from erd party provider. How can you guarantee that you will never ask KYC if your license is strictly requiring it for AML policy?

This would really matter for it to be accessible around the globe. Even if OP is just gauging the idea of his platform, many factors should really be considered.

Thanks yes there is still a lot of work the servers are in Costa Rica the domain also from Costa Rica so it can't be taken down because we are going to allow bets from around the globe etc

Yes i know some players just use another name, Vpn etc but if the casino found out they could lose the funds forever

About the license we are using a Costa Rica license

Hi well we are in the process of opening a crypto casino and sportsbook we hope is ready in one month

Some features of our casino / sportsbook:
1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount
2) we are also going to have a live casino
3) we are going to accept privacy coins like XMR
4) You can place bets over the phone 24/7
5) Is going to be available worldwide

If you think that you can implement these things then go for it, what you want to feature on your casino is already enough, point number one means that you are not going to be licensed, many gamblers do not support this, but let's see how your site will implement all your casino wants to be its features, let's see if you can launch it in a month and what is the roadmap and what games are you going to have.

Thanks well we are using a Costa Rica license we know trust takes years to build

1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount

If this is going for real and this isn't just going to be a marketing gimmick then you'll be taking some advantage from the others. But to mind you, that many have done this before but it didn't took long until they've required their players for KYC.

This isn't just going to be something that you'll include as part of the opening of your casino but if you managed to stand by it over time then you'll get respect from most gamblers here.

Thanks yeah is for real, we are never going to ask for KYC ever also we are no require to ask for it

Hi well we are in the process of opening a crypto casino and sportsbook we hope is ready in one month

Some features of our casino / sportsbook:
1) 100% anonymous we are never going to ask you for any personal info or KYC BS it doesn't matter the amount
2) we are also going to have a live casino
3) we are going to accept privacy coins like XMR
4) You can place bets over the phone 24/7
5) Is going to be available worldwide

what else should we add?

Let us know

I am quoting your original post OP, so that you cannot edit it in the future or remove it, when you implement full KYC requirements. I am doing this, because a lot of "new" casinos come with promises like this ..and the moment when they have acquired enough gamblers, they start asking for KYC verification. (changing the business model into a legitimate operation)

The "new" casinos do this, because they are building the Bankroll in the early stages and they also build a user base. Then the regulators take notice and they panic and they are forced to implement KYC requirements. 

Bankroll might just too be early. No one trusts anyone easily.

Once you add everything that is suggested and your casino is up and running, that's where all the challenge is because the next to add something that you can't just put through lines of code. That's when you need to build trust and this includes proving you won't be scamming gamblers' money.

Yeah we know trust take years to build and we are willing to build that trust and make a name in the industry

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[yahoo62278]

Same game parlays would be awesome. I'd love to be able to bet the over/under and the spread in the same game whereas most sportsbooks only allow 1 or the other. Another thing is to have quick withdrawals, anything over an hour is nuts IMO unless you suspect an abuser.