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November 07, 2022, 10:38:05 PM
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Amazon’s fleet of Rivian-made electric delivery vans is growing. Since first rolling out earlier this year, the retail giant’s new zero-tailpipe emission vehicles have made more than 5 million deliveries in the US, with its fleet-size exceeding 1,000 EDVs (electric delivery vans).

That’s still only a fraction of the company’s overall transportation fleet, which is comprised 30,000 Amazon-branded delivery vehicles and 20,000 branded trailers. But the electric-portion is growing, with Rivian eventually expecting to deliver 100,000 vans to the company.

Starting in July, the EDVs first rolled out in Baltimore, Chicago, Dallas, Nashville, San Diego, and Seattle. Since then, they’ve been put into service in a bunch of new cities, including Austin, Boston, Denver, Houston, Indianapolis, Las Vegas, Madison, Newark, New York, Oakland, Pittsburgh, Portland, Provo, and Salt Lake City.

The vans have been making their way into Amazon’s service, as Rivian’s manufacturing pace slowly accelerates. The EV company said it made 7,363 R1T pickup trucks, R1S SUVs, and EDVs during the three-month period that ended on September 30 — though it didn’t say how much of each. Rivian also said it delivered 6,584 vehicles during the same span. (The company is expected to report its third quarter earnings later this week.)

Of course, supply chain woes and inflation, as well as other hurdles, have conspired to stymie Amazon and Rivian’s goals of an electrified delivery fleet. When then-CEO Jeff Bezos announced a deal with the EV startup in 2019 to buy 100,000 vans, he said they should be on the road by 2024. Now, Amazon projects to hit 100,000 vans on the road by 2030.

“We’re always excited for the holiday season, but making deliveries to customers across the country with our new zero-emission vehicles for the first time makes this year unique,” said Udit Madan, vice president of Amazon Transportation. “We’ve already delivered over 5 million packages with our vehicles produced by Rivian, and this is still just the beginning—that figure will grow exponentially as we continue to make progress toward our 100,000-vehicle goal.”


https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/7/23443995/amazon-rivian-electric-delivery-van-fleet-ev


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Amazon purchasing cargo aircraft and ships to reduce shipping costs and circumvent supply chain disruptions has been publicized for some time now.

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Amazon is making its own containers and bypassing supply chain chaos with chartered ships and long-haul planes

December 4 2021

For years, Amazon has been quietly chartering private cargo ships, making its own containers, and leasing planes to better control the complicated shipping journey of an online order. Now, as many retailers panic over supply chain chaos, Amazon’s costly early moves are helping it avoid the long wait times for available dock space and workers at the country’s busiest ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/04/how-amazon-beats-supply-chain-chaos-with-ships-and-long-haul-planes.html

Here we see the latest installment of amazon striving to insulate its shipping costs from rising fossil fuel and diesel prices: a fleet of more than 1,000 electric vans. (Projected to hit 100,000 electric vans by 2030)

The media has always been fond of covering ways in which large corporations typically have large advantages over smaller businesses. Here we see yet another prime example of it. As the world enters crisis and issues develop, people will generally seek alternatives. It is possible in the future amazon will seek to acquire electric cargo planes and wind faring ships to compliment its electric vans. Thanks to recent fuel prices, there are many plans in motion to construct sail based, wind powered ships for cargo shipping purposes.

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November 07, 2022, 11:35:54 PM
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An electric delivery van went past me earlier today (from being parked) and I was surprised how quickly it picked up speed from not moving. I'm confused this is a new thing though, considering a lot of milk floats have always been electric, small to medium sized parcel delivery sounds like an easy thing to be able to.manage on one of those (especially in dense cities).

Hopefully they have plans to.make their own electricity or can source it fairly cheaply already as it looks like electric cars have already become more expensive than diesel ones to run in a lot of places.
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Yeah well, a while back I kept hearing about how Amazon was going to be delivering all their stuff via drones.  That had me scratching my head, but after a while I stopped seeing any kind of news related to that.  So they've definitely been looking to control distribution and do it in an economical way.

I'm not sure how much Amazon relies on the USPS (and other postal systems in other countries), but if there's any reliance there it's got to be eating away at their profits--especially now while inflation is increasing and the post office keeps increasing their rates.  I believe their fleet of delivery vehicles are at least semi-electric, but it's been my understanding that they can only increase the price of stamps and services such that said increases track inflation.

Anyway, I don't mind at all if they gain an advantage.  It's not like they're leaving a trail of bodies in doing so, and ultimately it ought to be better for the environment.

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November 10, 2022, 10:43:22 AM
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Yeah well, a while back I kept hearing about how Amazon was going to be delivering all their stuff via drones.  That had me scratching my head, but after a while I stopped seeing any kind of news related to that.  So they've definitely been looking to control distribution and do it in an economical way.

I'm not sure how much Amazon relies on the USPS (and other postal systems in other countries), but if there's any reliance there it's got to be eating away at their profits--especially now while inflation is increasing and the post office keeps increasing their rates.  I believe their fleet of delivery vehicles are at least semi-electric, but it's been my understanding that they can only increase the price of stamps and services such that said increases track inflation.

Anyway, I don't mind at all if they gain an advantage.  It's not like they're leaving a trail of bodies in doing so, and ultimately it ought to be better for the environment.
I am sure even though they do work with other delivery companies as well, they also do have their own delivery system already. Meaning there are amazon trucks as we all know, and those amazon trucks do carry out orders and deliver them to buyers.

This is 99% mostly the amazon products, which means if you buy something and it comes directly from amazon, or if it is fillers. That means they are not just trying to corner anything like that, they are simply making it more affordable. Right now, the most famous thing to say while selling something is "free delivery" and if they could end up doing electric vans that means it would work out even better because it would be cheaper for them to do it.

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November 10, 2022, 05:39:35 PM
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This is 99% mostly the amazon products, which means if you buy something and it comes directly from amazon, or if it is fillers. That means they are not just trying to corner anything like that, they are simply making it more affordable. Right now, the most famous thing to say while selling something is "free delivery" and if they could end up doing electric vans that means it would work out even better because it would be cheaper for them to do it.
I am not a resident of Europe and I have never used the delivery service with Amazon directly without going through a delivery company, but I do not expect that this service will be free or the use of its events, which undoubtedly requires huge budgets in addition to its management team.
The service will undoubtedly be much less expensive compared to the fees of the delivery companies, but this, as it represents the prosperity of Amazon, it represents a setback in the sector of delivery services.
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Amazon went in a complicated, but quite effective way. You can go this way when finances allow, because not many people can afford it.
What did/are they doing? Completely self-sufficient infrastructure for the promotion, sale and delivery of goods to the public. Mass delivery, extremely automated / robotic, controlled as automatically as possible. Logic has been spared, and warehouse management services, the second significant service is logistics. There are partner companies here, but there is its own logistics, which will always work for Amazon and will not require additional payments, they will not "twist the arms" of the business. And what is important is complete independence from the old providers of this service.
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- Amazon will build its energy generating divisions (windmills, solar panels, tide stations)
- Amazon will build its production of unified vehicles produced purely for delivery services

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November 10, 2022, 08:31:21 PM
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The media has always been fond of covering ways in which large corporations typically have large advantages over smaller businesses. Here we see yet another prime example of it. As the world enters crisis and issues develop, people will generally seek alternatives. It is possible in the future amazon will seek to acquire electric cargo planes and wind faring ships to compliment its electric vans. Thanks to recent fuel prices, there are many plans in motion to construct sail based, wind powered ships for cargo shipping purposes.

To be fair to Amazon, if they're a corporation that is large enough to be one of the biggest polluters, it's on them to aim to limit their pollutions. It's not ncessarily an advantage yet because the investment required to go green probably has a negative ROI. If private corporations want to take their own green initiatives, I'm fine with it. I just don't think the government should be in the businesses of telling companies that sort of stringent green regulations they need to adhere to. Most can't afford it, Amazon clearly can.
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