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December 11, 2011, 01:53:12 AM
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December 11, 2011, 01:55:50 AM
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Yeah : blockexplorer.com Wink
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December 11, 2011, 02:30:47 AM
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  Where does the extortion part come into play?  I see a small possiblity for such a thing to be used as extortion but that does not seem to be the purpose here. They would need to withhold the information and then contact the person first to 'threaten' to release it. Verses just putting it out there automaticly. I mean, someone paying to get their info removed after the fact is already too late thanks to the nature of the internet.

  It is certainly possible for it to be done with Bitcoin. But, how useful would seeing; IP-195.168.1.555(yes I know it's not valid...) bought coffee, some socks, sent a few random IP's BTC and sent some BTC to MtGox really be? I think the main thing to take away here is that both torrent and BTC reports would only work on users who did not know how to anonymize themselves properly. Anyone who cares enough to not have their internet usage tracked should be making that their first step.

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December 11, 2011, 02:45:13 AM
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But, how useful would seeing; IP-195.168.1.555(yes I know it's not valid...) bought coffee, some socks, sent a few random IP's BTC and sent some BTC to MtGox really be? I think the main thing to take away here is that both torrent and BTC reports would only work on users who did not know how to anonymize themselves properly. Anyone who cares enough to not have their internet usage tracked should be making that their first step.


A huge part of the appeal of bitcoin is its ability to be mostly hidden from being traceable to the owners of coins.  You may buy btc for very mundane things, but a large segment of bitcoin users have a reason to keep their purchases private.

  aye, and those people should know how to be anonymous. My inclusion of 'a few random IPs' was meant to include people that are sending/receiving to places unknown. And was not a list of what I use it for. Though I have no desire to use it for anything illegal, I can certainly appreciate someone's desire to not have their purchases known. I happen to service some of those entities now with USD.

But, that doesn't really answer your question. It's been said many, many times though that bitcoin by itself is not completely anonymous. Yes, it would be possible for someone to aggregate all the IP information associated with transactions.

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December 11, 2011, 04:04:38 AM
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Saw this in one of the articles, people really need to learn about Tor.

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December 11, 2011, 05:00:00 AM
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Yeah, good my IP is shared with ~1000 other guys, IP6 will be a real privacy bust, but by then I guess everybody will use tor
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December 11, 2011, 05:10:20 AM
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December 11, 2011, 03:29:25 PM
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"Hi. We have no records on you."

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December 11, 2011, 04:08:30 PM
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Saw this in one of the articles, people really need to learn about Tor.

Agreed.

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December 11, 2011, 05:33:50 PM
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Yep! They have my one and only transaction on record. For the record, I bought that chicken for a Christmas present, and not for personal satisfaction, of which was very upsetting for the chicken, for I think it liked me.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I will now on make doubly sure that I mask my IP (Individual Pleasure) for my next purchase.



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December 11, 2011, 05:34:54 PM
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Yep! They have my one and only transaction on record. For the record, I bought that chicken for a Christmas present, and not for personal satisfaction, of which was very upsetting for the chicken, for I think it liked me.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I will now on make doubly sure that I mask my IP (Individual Pleasure) for my next purchase.




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December 11, 2011, 06:13:06 PM
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Admin of that forum (yes ok and of every website we ever surfed) can know what we downloaded
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December 11, 2011, 10:11:31 PM
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Yeah : blockexplorer.com Wink

Yeah I know but BlockExplorer isn't tied to IP's and products purchased!

Bitcoin transaction doesn't have the IP address of a sender, because bitcoin protocol doesn't rely on it. The only way for some one to find out IP of the sender is to receive transaction broadcasted message directly from sender, use of any kind of proxy will deny that see: What is BlitCoin?. By the way, maintainers of www.youhavedownloaded.com said that they what to create anonymous file sharing protocol based on bitcoin technology:

Apart from exposing download habits the developers are also considering the creation of a more private file-sharing protocol. They already have a theoretical concept based on Bitcoin’s technology, but a workable piece of software is still very far away.

“The general idea is similar to what Bitcoin does. The key is to have an anonymous and reliable identity for each peer, and a Bitcoin-like signature chain algorithm will help,” Suren said.
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December 15, 2011, 11:33:27 PM
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Yeah : blockexplorer.com Wink

Yeah I know but BlockExplorer isn't tied to IP's and products purchased!

Bitcoin transaction doesn't have the IP address of a sender, because bitcoin protocol doesn't rely on it. The only way for some one to find out IP of the sender is to receive transaction broadcasted message directly from sender, use of any kind of proxy will deny that see: What is BlitCoin?. By the way, maintainers of www.youhavedownloaded.com said that they what to create anonymous file sharing protocol based on bitcoin technology:

Apart from exposing download habits the developers are also considering the creation of a more private file-sharing protocol. They already have a theoretical concept based on Bitcoin’s technology, but a workable piece of software is still very far away.

“The general idea is similar to what Bitcoin does. The key is to have an anonymous and reliable identity for each peer, and a Bitcoin-like signature chain algorithm will help,” Suren said.


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