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In gambling the higher the risk, the higher the gain. Also as a gambler you make your own decisions based on your experience and convictions about a particular game.
That's true. So if you intend to gain more, expect for it to be more risky and it depends on us if we are willing to take that risk. Often, we are tempted to do it because of our desire to earn huge then will regret if our expectation didn't happened. I already experience this kind of situation many times and often slap with bad result, it's not really good to be greedy because you'll end up losing it all. Thus, if you had the chance to cash out dont hesitate because it's already a profit otherwise you might regret not doing so.
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November 13, 2022, 09:53:45 PM |
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Things like this go back to what we believe. I personally always make some bets in the sportsbook until the end but when I look at the odds and we have won in those bets and see the condition of the one we support in this case is a little threatened then I might as well do a Cash Out but this is only a small part of what I do because I always bet until the end even though sometimes there are some matches that are really unexpected.
The smart and ideal thing to do after you have gained a good amount of profits is to actually make a cashout. But it becomes too hard for us to do, instead we chose to continue to play and mostly regret later on. This is really happening mostly when we bet, while others feel satisfied and cashout their profits, a lot of us still chase our luck and continue to gamble, until we realize that our profits is slowly going back to the casino until we lost them everything.
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November 13, 2022, 10:21:02 PM |
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I have faced similar situation before and most times I often collect the cash that comes as a cash out then the result of the Last match turns out correct and instead of having the whole money I miss out and get a little chunk of it..
So what would you would advise as a gambler? is it better to collect the cash out or wait for the full cash
Betting is so much like trading you can lose everything if you waited long enough and waited for a good price or cashout, its the risk involved in both betting and gambling and it really depends on your risk appetite, I prefer to cashout just doubling the amount of my bet is good enough for me, I can live with that even if lose additional profit from waiting for the completion of the game, its better than this than to feel sorry that you did not cashout earlier and lose everything.
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November 13, 2022, 10:57:56 PM |
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My decision depends on the amount of money, but I usually choose to wait until the end because I usually choose to bet with small amounts. However, I don't find the no risk no gain motto exactly right because we can make more money with combined earnings. It is also possible to make combined gains by taking less risk, rather than always taking more risks. I wish everyone good luck...
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November 13, 2022, 10:59:21 PM |
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....So what would you would advise as a gambler? is it better to collect the cash out or wait for the full cash
Hehe it's easy to say things in hindsight but tough to make a decision when you're in that situation. I think your "bravery" for not cashing out before the last game was still a good choice. It just didn't turn out well this time. You would probably regret too when you cashed out early and the last one won.
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November 13, 2022, 11:14:34 PM |
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<..snip..> So what would you would advise as a gambler? is it better to collect the cash out or wait for the full cash
If there is one thing I learned in gambling with all the years that I have played, it is to never get too greedy when you win. It also applies into investing where as soon as you saw and made some profit, always cash them out. The more time you placed your winnings/profits in the hands of the online gambling company, the higher the chances that you would use and bet them to play another round, like what happened to you OP. I get it- it is very tempting to try and use the profit to bet again. But remember that the chances of you winning is very slim to the point that you would probably lose more than win more. That is why, as soon as you experience profit, better cash them out and avoid waiting until the end.
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November 13, 2022, 11:17:15 PM |
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Some good male friends who play at local bet stores have had this experience countless times but i have promised myself if i ever try a multiple bet and get such outcome i will cash out in peace and let the last game go because the risk might be too heavy to bear. Just imagine OP had taken the $389 it would have been far better than losing it all.
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November 13, 2022, 11:23:26 PM |
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So what would you would advise as a gambler? is it better to collect the cash out or wait for the full cash
There is no better option because, in the first place, you didn't know what will be the result. It's a matter of being satisfied with your supposed profit or expecting more. That's why it's called gambling in the first place right? You just didn't hit the win that's why you end up on a concern like that. Regrets are really part of gambling. What if you won instead and were able to take home that $300+ win? Up to you to decide what to do next if ever you end up again in that situation.
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November 14, 2022, 05:06:21 AM |
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Menh it is no easy to be a gambler. Well that the life "NO RISK NO GAIN"
recently I placed a bet on different soccer games and I staked it with about $70 on accumulated odd of 10.36 which came out a total of $725.
After placing my bet I later check back on the games in my account to monitor the success of my predictions and I opened the betslip and I was given a cash out of about $389 and the matches remaining was just one game so I decided not to take the it...i decided to be a brave gambler and wait for the last game to be concluded and then collect the full money
But the last game didn't turn out the way I wanted it and I lost that $389
I have faced similar situation before and most times I often collect the cash that comes as a cash out then the result of the Last match turns out correct and instead of having the whole money I miss out and get a little chunk of it..
So what would you would advise as a gambler? is it better to collect the cash out or wait for the full cash
Sometimes the situation dictates how to react and decide on many situations in gambling, if you are coming from a huge loss and you think that this is the time to regain your losses then you will go all out and for the higher price, you have a big appetite for risk if this is your decision, it all boils down to your risky behavior and you are comfortable on what losses you will incur, but I always prefer to take profit, because in gambling its not always winning you will get even, lose and regain your losses.
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November 14, 2022, 07:44:16 AM |
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So what would you would advise as a gambler? is it better to collect the cash out or wait for the full cash
Sorry to hear that you lost your bets, but that is the way of combi bets. One single bet can ruin our whole predictions, that is why I try to avoid them as much as possible, or only combine two or three bets the most. It's nice what kind of odds you get from combi bets, while also increasing the risk considerably. With your bets you ended up at odds of 10.36, which is very high in my opinion, these bets should fail more often than you win them. I usually only go for 2 or 3x bets. Making a 10x return is nice, but is not going to happen to often. We should keep that in mind and prepare ourselves for the worst possible outcomes. That is why I always like to take out some part of my winnings and not reinvest all of my money in the next bet. There can always go something wrong with a bet and if we lose all our money from previous bets it is sad. Also the problem with losing all our money in a single bet is that we will have trouble to recover again. Splitting up our money and saving some makes sure that we can cover a losing streak more easily.
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November 14, 2022, 09:18:07 AM |
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Its always a dilemma and it will always go down how confident you are on your bet, this is sports betting and your chances are much better than casino based luck game if you did a good analysis then you might as well go all out, but if you have doubt and you are tempted to cash out then cash out that's a hint that things could go from good to bad you already triple your bet, that's already good, you will only go if you are confident.
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November 14, 2022, 12:45:46 PM |
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Its always a dilemma and it will always go down how confident you are on your bet, this is sports betting and your chances are much better than casino based luck game if you did a good analysis then you might as well go all out, but if you have doubt and you are tempted to cash out then cash out that's a hint that things could go from good to bad you already triple your bet, that's already good, you will only go if you are confident.
If the game you would like to play is Sportsbet I guess the only key to winning is your knowledge because by having a good background check and analysis of the game you can conclude an outcome of the game because the data it says already which is the team has a potential to win the game, but still this is a sports game there's a chance that they make a table turn by just having a one mistakes. Some people always seeks a good odds to play the game like an underdog game because there's a higher chance to get a good shot of profit right there.
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November 14, 2022, 01:24:44 PM |
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So what would you would advise as a gambler? is it better to collect the cash out or wait for the full cash
There should be an expectation on every bet you make because unexpected things happen so if you don't want to have this dilemma before placing a bet, think of what you want to achieve and when you want to stop so you can decide right away when faced with this kind of scenario, stop or go on until you win that prize, always be ready to lose everything or win huge.
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November 14, 2022, 03:24:43 PM |
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Bro, I would've cashed out at that profit. You got greedy the second time, should've learned the lesson from the first time it happened. Just imagine how much you already made from a $70 bet. That 5 times your capital which also gives you 5 times the opportunity to do it again and who knows you might get the same result next time. You can just do it over and over again and you will make more money. That's the perks of betting online, the cashout options. I do it on Stake.com most of the time when I see even twice or 3 times the profit.
Cash it out if you feel that your profits are already sufficient and you are beginning to mistrust the remaining legs. We must be able to feel sufficient and content with the winnings we receive in order to avoid being overly greedy and continuing to gamble in the hopes of winning bigger money. We cannot always win more than the bets we place. While we can cash in on that huge gain, we should withdraw it and save up some of it so we can play another day as we can always return to that casino website and try our luck. Who knows, maybe today will be lucky than yesterday and we'll win more cash. We thus receive twice as many wins.
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November 14, 2022, 03:50:23 PM |
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So what would you would advise as a gambler? is it better to collect the cash out or wait for the full cash
It is a personal decision. In my case I prefer cash out. I am aware that luck is difficult to have, it is normal to lose and even more so if we think in the long term. When I have a strike of luck I prefer to cash out at that moment and I'll come back another day. I know people that after a jackpot continued playing and lost everything. I don't want that for me. I call it a day and withdraw the money.
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November 14, 2022, 04:54:38 PM |
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Its always a dilemma and it will always go down how confident you are on your bet, this is sports betting and your chances are much better than casino based luck game if you did a good analysis then you might as well go all out, but if you have doubt and you are tempted to cash out then cash out that's a hint that things could go from good to bad you already triple your bet, that's already good, you will only go if you are confident.
Actually, it's not a dilemma because if you are a wise bettor, you will be able to see how big your chance is to take the biggest profit. And if the chance to win more is not great after the middle of the match, you can take advantage and choose to end your bet because you don't see it can give you the maximum profit if you wait until the match is over. But if your profit percentage is more than the maximum until the end of the match, you will wait until the match is over. This may require experience in placing bets and the ability to analyze the course of the game so you can know how much profit you can get.
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Menh it is no easy to be a gambler. Well that the life "NO RISK NO GAIN"
So what would you would advise as a gambler? is it better to collect the cash out or wait for the full cash
withdrawing the cash or collecting does not show that we are not risking our money because from the beginning of the bet we already risked our funds so taking it out that early is more practical than waiting for Full cash. greeeb made us loser all of the time so lets take an easy move and that is not to wait for too much. So what would you would advise as a gambler? is it better to collect the cash out or wait for the full cash
It is a personal decision. In my case I prefer cash out. I am aware that luck is difficult to have, it is normal to lose and even more so if we think in the long term. When I have a strike of luck I prefer to cash out at that moment and I'll come back another day. I know people that after a jackpot continued playing and lost everything. I don't want that for me. I call it a day and withdraw the money. the post means Luck already in His part but the deciding point is how long luck will last so you will need to cashing out or will continue trying your luck how long will stay.
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November 16, 2022, 01:56:26 AM |
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I guess there isn't a black and white answer to this. I cannot directly say go ahead and collect the cash or wait for the last game to finish and hope that you will have a bigger prize.
It will all depend on the last game itself. If you are very confident of your bet, then I think waiting for the result is worth a risk. But if you are not that confident of that bet, then it is probably wiser to just take advantage of the cash out offer. After all it is already worth a lot more than your bet.
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Kemarit
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November 16, 2022, 01:57:44 AM |
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So what would you would advise as a gambler? is it better to collect the cash out or wait for the full cash
It is a personal decision. In my case I prefer cash out. I am aware that luck is difficult to have, it is normal to lose and even more so if we think in the long term. When I have a strike of luck I prefer to cash out at that moment and I'll come back another day. I know people that after a jackpot continued playing and lost everything. I don't want that for me. I call it a day and withdraw the money. Yes, same here, I'm thinking of cashing it out before the last game. It's already big money screaming in front of you, so why not take it as you made a good returns from your small bet and turning it to X amount. Risk means winning big, but at the same time, you can lose as well.And so it's better to call it a day and quit and withdraw and play the next day.
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November 16, 2022, 02:04:30 AM |
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I think there's a million different factors that can come in to play when trying to decide if you should be cashing out sticking with your bet. Personally, overall, not to say that there aren't exceptions, but I tend to think that the smarter play is to stick with your gut feeling. That is of course if you know that you're pretty knowledgeable about the sport that you bet on. If you're betting more on a win and seem to have gotten pretty lucky and are up kinda big, might make more sense to cash out. All depends I suppose.
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