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November 14, 2022, 10:42:35 PM
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The American and British systems have great flexibility that enables investors to have investment opportunities without disruptions and away from bureaucracy. You will get rich if you work hard and keep a clean profile with the system.
The banking system facilitates the processes of obtaining loans and even financing startups. In addition to the many privileges enjoyed by project sponsors.
Not only Britain and the United States, all countries that direct their economies towards development and prosperity allow banks to facilitate economic activities in general.
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November 14, 2022, 11:16:52 PM
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There is common thinking among people reaching first world countries will let them to be rich at the shortest. For a person moving from third world country it seems to be the truth. The same doesn't indicate his/her country doesn't let him to be rich. In the past the first world countries didn't have much of population and now things have changed. In the past it was an easy thing to migrate. Now those countries have got the population and the difficulty to move into those countries weren't an easy thing anymore.

Same as that we have in our countries, these first world countries too have poverty, homeless and other economic problems. These things won't be shown to outer world which too is kind of world politics. Looking for opportunities and moving to a country is good than thinking of being rich.

A little wrong. No one says that having arrived in the USA or Britain, you are guaranteed to either become rich, or guaranteed to live at a fairly high level. No, that would be very stupid. Nobody gives guarantees. The thing is different - opportunities for self-realization and support (including comfortable tax, credit systems, social programs, etc.) provide an opportunity for a person who has at least a desire to live well and do something for this, to realize their desires through their skills, in a convenient market .


Its like giving false hope for people who want to became rich easily since if we really want to get rich so bad we need to spend a lot of effort to make things happen. We need also to consider to find multiple income stream so that this dream will happen and it is not just a hope only. Going to UK and USA will never be a guarantee since we also need to consider the high cost of living there so at the end the high salary then be reach maybe not might not come to us if we live there for good.

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November 15, 2022, 05:23:30 AM
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If you want to get rich, look for problems in your country or local area and then find solutions for it. Those that have been rich are the problem solvers and gave the solution for a long time existing problem in their areas.

And with that, you can capitalize the system and earn from the patent that you've invented as help and solution to the people there. That's how it goes, you need to be a great critical thinker and execute it.
Easy to say but it would really be hard to be done.You could consider the following;

-Resources
-Time and effort
-Government support
-Paper works

I dont see the relevance on making out patents or something like that yet building a business would rather be giving less headache.
Also if you do look around which almost everything had been offered or available which creating something new basing up on the community problems where
you do live is something needing that scientist-like mind  which is never been that simple or could be that possible.
It's really easy to say but the execution and application is hard. It is in general not just in UK and USA that most of the rich folks there are problem solvers.

It could be their own personal problems or people's problem and that's how they've figured out to become rich. Those that you've mentioned are normal and even you're just an employee, you get to have those.

So for personal experience, you'll use all of those and you'll manage to walkthrough with all of it. Having a patent is just one of it, you can divert that attention into other business where you're having the inspiration of the successful ones.

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November 15, 2022, 06:55:32 AM
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Your statement is still too ambiguous, there are several statements that contradict someone's beliefs to enter the country.
To get the wealth you want to get, you need work management and skills, we don't believe that just because you entered the United States, opportunities to become rich are increasingly open, if you are a lazy person and don't have any skills, then getting rich is just a dream that will not happen happens, there are many methods that cannot be ignored, when one wants wealth.

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November 15, 2022, 04:44:59 PM
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There is common thinking among people reaching first world countries will let them to be rich at the shortest. For a person moving from third world country it seems to be the truth. The same doesn't indicate his/her country doesn't let him to be rich. In the past the first world countries didn't have much of population and now things have changed. In the past it was an easy thing to migrate. Now those countries have got the population and the difficulty to move into those countries weren't an easy thing anymore.

Same as that we have in our countries, these first world countries too have poverty, homeless and other economic problems. These things won't be shown to outer world which too is kind of world politics. Looking for opportunities and moving to a country is good than thinking of being rich.

A little wrong. No one says that having arrived in the USA or Britain, you are guaranteed to either become rich, or guaranteed to live at a fairly high level. No, that would be very stupid. Nobody gives guarantees. The thing is different - opportunities for self-realization and support (including comfortable tax, credit systems, social programs, etc.) provide an opportunity for a person who has at least a desire to live well and do something for this, to realize their desires through their skills, in a convenient market .


Its like giving false hope for people who want to became rich easily since if we really want to get rich so bad we need to spend a lot of effort to make things happen. We need also to consider to find multiple income stream so that this dream will happen and it is not just a hope only. Going to UK and USA will never be a guarantee since we also need to consider the high cost of living there so at the end the high salary then be reach maybe not might not come to us if we live there for good.


You are now trying to find an excuse for the failures of those who decided that they would come and become millionaires tomorrow. More precisely to shift on other people's shoulders. In fact, this is not so - there are no promises, no obligations, no legislative acts and articles of the constitution, which says "Come to the USA and be rich." also applies to Britain. But what really is - these are the stories of ordinary people. Someone really received a high income, someone is lying primitively, someone is deceiving in order to lure money from a person for a "trip to a dream" ... It's like in medicine - when you have a health problem - a good doctor will say - look, there is a problem, here are its reasons , here are ways to fix or mitigate the effects. It depends only on you - whether you will follow a diet, exercise, take prescribed medications and stop or not take alcohol, fatty, and harmful. And in reality it will not be easy to achieve the desired result, and without any guarantees of the result. And there are charlatans who will say - I have a miraculous medicine, it will 100% cure you! But it must be bought at a high price.

In a word, the assumption that "by moving to the USA or Britain, you will become rich" is just an assumption .... True, there are nuances that say that this assumption is more likely to be realized in these states than, for example, in third world countries or in countries with totalitarian, anti-human laws and rulers.

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November 16, 2022, 07:46:28 AM
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The size for rich always makes the UK and USA, it can be the right fact because most of the world millionaires always come from the USA and UK, developed countries certainly provide good opportunities to become rich, but we must be aware that competition in the USA and UK is very tight and only People who have high skills that can be successful in competition.
Expertise is the main criterion that must exist within each person to live in that world and it's not only in the environment in the USA or UK, because in developed countries it is clear that the competition in work is very much and very fierce, so that each person has to always have new ways that are good and needed by every company in every country including those in the USA and UK. This is based on the fact that many companies require employees with special skills to be employed in companies in countries within the USA, as well as the UK.

So in this case it is clear that only those who have skills can live there (USA and UK) to earn good income and become rich. Because if the job is just sleeping or just lazing around there (USA and UK), wealth in any form will not come to us by itself.
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November 16, 2022, 08:02:58 AM
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Sounds interesting, but it's a pass for me. Been to both countries and while they are nice for a while, I don't see myself living in either of them. If I had to choose between the two I would go for USA, UK doesn't look so strong at the moment. Are you sure to compare these two in the same way? I thought that UK is expected to have a recession next year. The news I read about the UK economy are not that great. This doesn't leave many options to move to, in UK the only place to be is probably London, whereas in USA there are many big cities where you can make a living. The main problem will be to get a permit to actually live and work their. Don't you already need a job or special qualification to get a greencard? I always thought it's hard to immigrate into the USA. Also the living cost are quite high over there, getting a good job is one thing, but actually becoming rich a something else. I still think you need some very good skills to be paid a lot.
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November 16, 2022, 05:05:52 PM
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Your statement is still too ambiguous, there are several statements that contradict someone's beliefs to enter the country.
To get the wealth you want to get, you need work management and skills, we don't believe that just because you entered the United States, opportunities to become rich are increasingly open, if you are a lazy person and don't have any skills, then getting rich is just a dream that will not happen happens, there are many methods that cannot be ignored, when one wants wealth.
Management in everything i.e time, money, emotion, etc.. are all important to become a successful person and the other one would be skills. I don't believe that there are people who don't have any skills.

We all have it but some of us are just lazy, that is why we never discover our hidden skills. Not just the OP but many of us already have a belief that migrating on other well developed countries can change our life but I think that was legit because they have higher pay rates there but the only downside is that the cost of living there is also expensive but if we know how to manage or to budget our money and prioritize only the things that is truly needed, we can save up good amounts of money there.

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The size for rich always makes the UK and USA, it can be the right fact because most of the world millionaires always come from the USA and UK, developed countries certainly provide good opportunities to become rich, but we must be aware that competition in the USA and UK is very tight and only People who have high skills that can be successful in competition.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_millionaires

I guess this is why USA or UK. Both are at the top of the list, and the USA is leading this race by far! In a huge market, you always have more possibilities. But there are no guarantees anywhere, in theory, you can make money anywhere in the world if you have a "product" that is wanted. And for sure there are many legal and illegal ways of making money anywhere in the world, we all know that.

Well, we are close to 8 billion people... I guess competition is very tight wherever you look!


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November 17, 2022, 11:46:04 PM
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The American and British systems have great flexibility that enables investors to have investment opportunities without disruptions and away from bureaucracy. You will get rich if you work hard and keep a clean profile with the system.
The banking system facilitates the processes of obtaining loans and even financing startups. In addition to the many privileges enjoyed by project sponsors.
Not only Britain and the United States, all countries that direct their economies towards development and prosperity allow banks to facilitate economic activities in general.
This is somehow true but taxes in the US and UK can be annoying which had made many investors to pay workers more with big taxes from the firm or company. I know the UK and US has suitable working environment with skills and work power which can make businesses to do well if the person has good team with better vision.
There is more to this any anybody that has the I tension to bring his businesses to the UK or US would need to have sufficient fund to begin and pay for the necessary things before settings a business.

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I can strongly say I disagree with your opinion because going to another country like the USA or England can be helpful for some people but this cannot guarantee you to become a rich person just because traveling to another country you can become a rich person if you know the ways to become a rich person in any country if can happened for your a developed country or in a not developed country for everyone and totally depends on yourself, not your country where you are living, you can become rich even in a poor and not developed country.

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November 19, 2022, 02:00:28 PM
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In the UK and US life is easy there in the sense that there are more job opportunities and other ways in which you can start up something to get funds. These two countries are business centres in the world with high valued currency because they welcome businessmen that is willing to invest in their country from any part of the world.

Before you can be rich, you must contribute or partake in rendering goods or services to the country in exchange for money, you can't pick money on their streets because they print money. If you are lazy and you go to UK or US,you can still remain poor but if you are hardworking and you have some new ideas for them then you might become rich. The people in the third world countries are believes that these two countries are money making country.

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November 19, 2022, 08:44:01 PM
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I can strongly say I disagree with your opinion because going to another country like the USA or England can be helpful for some people but this cannot guarantee you to become a rich person just because traveling to another country you can become a rich person if you know the ways to become a rich person in any country if can happened for your a developed country or in a not developed country for everyone and totally depends on yourself, not your country where you are living, you can become rich even in a poor and not developed country.

Besides not all people are eligible to go there. Does this mean, people who failed to get their Visas in those countries are doomed to poverty?  OP's statement is moot  Grin.   Opportunities are everywhere.  It is up to the person whether they can take advantage of it.  Besides, there are lots of things to do after you go to the UK or the USA.  No one will give us million dollars there for free.  We have to work hard for it.  And even need to work more than 10 hours per day in order to get paid more than the basic.

And one more thing, why do lots of investors from those country looks for another country to invest in if that place is enough to generate a good amount of money?

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November 19, 2022, 11:44:07 PM
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The American and British systems have great flexibility that enables investors to have investment opportunities without disruptions and away from bureaucracy. You will get rich if you work hard and keep a clean profile with the system.
The banking system facilitates the processes of obtaining loans and even financing startups. In addition to the many privileges enjoyed by project sponsors.
Not only Britain and the United States, all countries that direct their economies towards development and prosperity allow banks to facilitate economic activities in general.
This is somehow true but taxes in the US and UK can be annoying which had made many investors to pay workers more with big taxes from the firm or company. I know the UK and US has suitable working environment with skills and work power which can make businesses to do well if the person has good team with better vision.
There is more to this any anybody that has the I tension to bring his businesses to the UK or US would need to have sufficient fund to begin and pay for the necessary things before settings a business.
Any project in the world will require expenses and a budget. These expenses will increase if the owner of the project wants to move it from one place to another. It is true that taxes and taxes are high in those countries and there is an emphasis on paying them on time, but the volume of demand and prices of goods and services are high and they can cover the expenses. Poor countries are to make a profit because entrepreneurs can manipulate laws and not pay taxes and there is no oversight.
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Op I hope you know that it is expensive to live in the UK and even US. Are you ready to face the taxation there? The economy run on taxing the people which is one major source of income generation and they don't joke with that, this means even evading tax is not taken easy, it is a crime and you are going to face the offense. In UK or US, you don't make money if you are not doing a business or job that you can earn like  $5-10k monthly because of all the taxes coming down on the salary. It is not easy anywhere and this is what you have to know

Cost of living is high in any developed country. The salaries usually are proportional to the cost of living. It also goes without saying that the cost of living in developed countries is also proportional to the standard of living. "Get what you pay for" in a sense.

I'd agree that taxes are pretty high, but it mostly applies to corporations more than anything. UK might have higher taxes with and only till recent higher energy costs, but that's the price to live in a developed nation.
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Bullshit title in my opinion.

Getting rich if the only thing to be happy in your mind, then you are grossly mistaken. Money is only a part of life, living conditions and the cost living in these countries are very high meaning a lot of your "earning" will be spent right there and the cash at hand would be much less.

If someone has a passion and is willing to work for it even though hard times are following they will emerge victorious at one point and make money while being happy at work.

Not everyone will be a millionaire, but being one without being happy about your work life, sucks. So follow your dream, not the money.

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November 20, 2022, 10:54:33 AM
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Is this post ironic? Are you serious?
According to your views and beliefs about economy and finance, the more money printing and debt there is in a country the better for the companies and the people. What about inflation and currency devaluation? What about going bankrupt? I don't think that going bankrupt in the UK and USA is as easy and painless as you describe it. It's always horrible for a business owner to go bankrupt, because his future partners will most likely know about his previous business failures and would hesitate to do business with him. The banks would also hesitate to give him loans.
I don't really think that it is very easy for a foreigner to get bank loans in both the USA and the UK. Foreign immigrants always had a hard time in their first years in the USA or UK.

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Bullshit title in my opinion.

Getting rich if the only thing to be happy in your mind, then you are grossly mistaken. Money is only a part of life, living conditions and the cost living in these countries are very high meaning a lot of your "earning" will be spent right there and the cash at hand would be much less.

If someone has a passion and is willing to work for it even though hard times are following they will emerge victorious at one point and make money while being happy at work.

Not everyone will be a millionaire, but being one without being happy about your work life, sucks. So follow your dream, not the money.

I will add to this - if there is no wind in your head, there is knowledge, skills, experience, then it is much more profitable to live in countries that are not so large and developed. Let's compare, for example, a monthly income of 3000-5000 dollars a month, for example in Britain, and let it be - the Czech Republic, Poland or Latvia?
If you calculate your regular regular expenses to provide a living - in Britain they will be almost 3-5 times higher. Despite the fact that the level of comfort and quality of life is little or not significantly different. At the same time, due to globalization, most brands, technologies, goods and services are available in any adequate country. But regular costs in these countries will be noticeably lower than in Britain.
Accordingly, being such a "middle class" is much more profitable in the Czech Republic, Poland or Latvia!

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November 20, 2022, 10:54:55 PM
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Travelling abroad doesn't guarantee being rich. Although some countries doesn't help citizen in getting rich even when you are hardworking. Alot of policies in some countries won't allow people who are even hardworking to get there easily. This make people believe travelling over there is a solution forgetting US and UK have their own policies, although more favorable to citizens.

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USA and UK are developed countries that are the center of economy, education, entertainment and so on, and to succeed in developed countries, of course, must be prepared with very tight competition, many people are successful but many fail because they do not understand the important things that must be done when the business In UK and USA.

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