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Author Topic: I won 85,000 USDt in Owl.games casino (SCAM)  (Read 1510 times)
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November 12, 2022, 12:10:56 PM
Last edit: November 12, 2022, 02:18:35 PM by cryptostuneris
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Seriously?

I can tell you that Owl.game is lying to public to avoid paying out my winnings.

Yes, account was created yesterday, but only because another crypto casino limited my sports betting amounts. I created an account at Owl.games, deposited 2k USDt, placed 1 sports bet (e-NBA) for ±1.2-1.3k USDt and started playing in the casino with the remaining ±600-700 USDt.

I chose Bgaming games because I simply like them. The fact that it was 97% winning is a lie. I bought bonus-games (where you pay 2-3k usdt and get from 8 to 12 free spins), During whole period I played 4-5 different games.

I deposited 2k USDt, I lost part of it in sports betting, from other part I managed to reach 50k USDt in 1-2 hours with casino

I decided that a withdrawal should be made and I made a withdrawal of 10k USDt (this is the maximum withdrawal limit in 24 hours)

After 2-3 hours I decided that I wanted to play some more and then I played for about 4-5 hours without stopping. I went from 40k USDt to 3k USDt. So, owl.games is simply trying to avoid responsibilities

Currently, I can no longer login to my account, monitor KYC progress, withdraw any amounts.

We're just letting you know, Owl.games administration, that if you think you'll get away with it, it won't happen.
If I don't get my winnings, I will create a page for owl cam.io, owlscam.com and start a heavy advertising campaign, so think about it.

I CAN CONFIRM EACH OF MY WORDS THAT I AM A BIG GAMBLER TOO (I won 30k last month at bc.game casino and got paid the next day, proofs: https://imgur.com/a/p1yyxwZ, tx id: https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/68c903641ea90967026e72dbf0c3301695a88c5c6565c304e54cb8b848f9732b)
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November 12, 2022, 01:33:51 PM
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Isn't a 97% winning rate in line with rtp claims by most of the casinos?
Always thought these return of player numbers are a hoax but if somebody actually hits it he is supposed to be a scammer or abuser, sounds like a weak excuse by owl.

Sometimes people get lucky, that can happen.

Hope you are getting paid. 85k is definitely a game changer for some people!

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November 12, 2022, 01:52:30 PM
Last edit: November 12, 2022, 02:08:18 PM by cryptostuneris
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I want to add:

I bought premium free spins in games where you always win something, sometimes more than they cost, sometimes less.. That's why the win percentage is there, it wasn't just $25 spins. I played for about 6-8 hours in total (with a few hours break).

Only after receiving request did I provide full KYC instantly (bank statement for the last month, driver's license, selfie, phone verification)

If necessary, I can provide a statement of my wallet, from which I deposited 2k usdt due to the legality of money or any other doubt you have.

"(FYI it's $630 -> 80k and every bet is max bet)" - Yes, it was 25 usd worth of games which cost about 2.4k usdt and I got 10 free spins. Spinning worth 25 usdt is not big, there are games where you can spin 500 usdt and buy 10 free games for 100k usdt.

I am also attaching a few photos
: https://imgur.com/a/z7BTx08

wager - amount spent to buy free spins

multi - how much x is done, if it is less than 1x, it is a minus

payout - paid amount

definitely not always profitable spins (definitely not 97% win rate)


I ASK THE OWL ADMINISTRATION to provide my full balance history, how it changed, because it was not, so that I deposited 2k USDt and immediately won 85k USDt,

in one of the photos you can see that I wager more than 640k usdt in 24 hours



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November 12, 2022, 02:20:57 PM
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Also,

my first bet was in sports betting on e-NBA, I registered in this casino because I wanted to bet with high limits, but the maximum bet was ±1.2k-1.3k, so I thought of playing in the casino with the remaining money
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November 12, 2022, 02:25:40 PM
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Is that your new acc? LOL.
Nope. Just want to know the reason. Thanks for explanation.

For an admin account saying LOL about someone asking a problem isn't professional way IMO.


So I would suggest the lucky dude can create new account and play Live casino, you will definitely get your winnings.
Hopefully he won't get another suspend later if he does that 😉


We have provided adequate reasons and update. For now we are waiting too.

Also I am HUMAN customer support rather than ROBOT.

You can check binance official twitter acc. I bet they can say 'LOL' yeah.



Are you a new representative here? You should deal with the users here that inquiring in professional manner. You are accusing the user for being OP alt account just because he is doing a follow up question on OP concern. User here is fair in both party since the OP game record is still not proven came from scam.

I have no problem with your LOL reply on him but accusing a player for an alt account just because he is questioning is very unprofessional. I don't see anything wrong on his question tho.



BTW OP records is indeed red flag, there is no slot provider that will give that same win rate result unless it was rigged.

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November 12, 2022, 02:29:08 PM
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The truth is that I have to congratulate you, I don't know how you did it or what glitch you use but I congratulate you for trying to outwit the casinos and in some cases achieving it as you showed with Bcgames. But in my opinion yours is a farce and the evidence you provide only confirms either a bug in the game or that you somehow run something or developed an AI to find out what happens (I have no idea how you do it).

How the hell do you justify that the only ones you lose are the small bets of 25 dollars and Oh coincidence, all the wins are the ones you bet a large sum of money on?

The previous wager? I congratulate you again, it is perfectly done at the social engineering level on your part, you pretend that you lose a little so that the startup account is not marked and then you go to the slot that you already know you have the glitch and you give it all, for later if they tell you something object that at some point you had lost. It's very manual.

I'm not going to say that OWL is clean wheat or nothing, but don't come to take us for stupid.

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November 12, 2022, 02:35:37 PM
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Cheesy

All casinos wait for the confirmation of the game provider after a big win, it was the same with bc.game and I have already submitted evidence of the payment received, which means that answer received was positive and money was won.

proofs: https://imgur.com/a/mIot2w1


I can show and demonstrate everything via video call. It's not a problem for me. Fantasize less, no one is cheating and I doubt if it is possible at all, bgaming is a popular game provider, it is used by 99% of all casinos.
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November 12, 2022, 04:19:05 PM
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No point to WD his money little by little, WD should be instantly . If you won $80k, would you like to WD $100 for 800 times? Obviously not
No one in the right mind will do same thing like that, but anyone can withdraw 10k for 8 times instead. I found this trick as convenient to others, than withdrawing their winnings at once then got a suspended account, asked KYC and etc. worst it got pending for several days or weeks.

Now, regarding the suspicious behaviour mentioned by owl.games to OP it would be glad if there's a detailed supporting details soon than just pure assumptions.
While 97% winning rate is pretty high, accusations should be back with facts and data, or this will soon be a common thing as an excuse from game providers or casinos when a gambler made such huge win.

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November 12, 2022, 04:22:21 PM
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No point to WD his money little by little, WD should be instantly . If you won $80k, would you like to WD $100 for 800 times? Obviously not
No one in the right mind will do same thing like that, but anyone can withdraw 10k for 8 times instead. I found this trick as convenient to others, than withdrawing their winnings at once then got a suspended account, asked KYC and etc. worst it got pending for several days or weeks.

Now, regarding the suspicious behaviour mentioned by owl.games to OP it would be glad if there's a detailed supporting details soon than just pure assumptions.
While 97% winning rate is pretty high, accusations should be back with facts and data, or this will soon be a common thing as an excuse from game providers or casinos when a gambler made such huge win.

100% agree

I presented evidence, it would be fair if other parties did the same.

I fully agree that response received from game providers should be made public here.
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November 12, 2022, 04:40:12 PM
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100% agree

I presented evidence, it would be fair if other parties did the same.

I fully agree that response received from game providers should be made public here.
I am more interested to know how did you achieve 97% accuracy rate? Luck does not work like that. In skill games may be it's possible. But it seems you have used some hacks to get the result. I don't know how owl.games handle hacks but in many casinos, you can not use hacks or any kind of advantage in your favour to win slots.

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November 12, 2022, 04:46:02 PM
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100% agree

I presented evidence, it would be fair if other parties did the same.

I fully agree that response received from game providers should be made public here.
I am more interested to know how did you achieve 97% accuracy rate? Luck does not work like that. In skill games may be it's possible. But it seems you have used some hacks to get the result. I don't know how owl.games handle hacks but in many casinos, you can not use hacks or any kind of advantage in your favour to win slots.

Are you kidding me? I already explained that there is no such thing as a 97% win rate, just read....
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November 12, 2022, 08:46:25 PM
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Are you kidding me? I already explained that there is no such thing as a 97% win rate, just read....
My apology man. I think I am understanding you now. In one post you said you bought premium free spins in games which I interpreted as you bought a tool (paid tool) to manipulate the game to increase winning rate. But after looking at the bet history it turns out it's the multi that determines how much you are winning or losing. So in these sorts of games you always get something in return instead of losing all.

Among the 247 bets you placed, 240/247 = 97% win rate.
I would like to see more clear explanation of this ration. In the history I saw a multi determines how much a spin is making. Anything less than 1.xx means the wager is losing some money but it's not like to lose the bet. Anything that is 0.00 one may consider a lost bet not even 0.01 is a lost bet too.

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November 12, 2022, 11:02:05 PM
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first i think its casino mistake as we know a lot of casinos dont like that users win big but in the last games you make it so obv that you  have a bug and you controlled the game somehow

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November 12, 2022, 11:14:45 PM
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I will repeat once more,
no cheats used, i played fair, just like all of you. I won 85k usdt after I wager over ±660k usdt (half of miliion)

https://www.bgaming.com/provability-explained/ - bgaming also records every game. OWL.games please make received response from bgaming public.

I also did a little research about OWL.Games, it's their wallets, total wallets balance is just 300k USD.

https://bscscan.com/address/0x62fc798d7a1924532c72511d132aeabd02f4fa30

https://polygonscan.com/address/0x62fc798d7a1924532c72511d132aeabd02f4fa30

https://ftmscan.com/address/0x62fc798d7a1924532c72511d132aeabd02f4fa30#internaltx

If current bankroll of OWL.games is 300k USD, then it is understandable why there is a public lie and the aim is to avoid responsibility of paying out a winning of this size,

because it is 1/3 of their total capital.


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November 12, 2022, 11:21:13 PM
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And I just want to let you know that I'm not going to put up with claims that I cheated.

I did not cheat for serious, I provided a lot of proofs, I can provide even more if you wish. I have verified my KYC.

Bgaming should confirm that the winnings are legitimate.

It is very unfair when you risk your money to win something, and when you win, they still try not to pay you the winnings. I think a lot of players in the crypto market should know about this story, so tomorrow I will arrange with some top crypto-influencers to share this story.
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November 13, 2022, 02:20:50 AM
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After 2-3 hours I decided that I wanted to play some more and then I played for about 4-5 hours without stopping. I went from 40k USDt to 3k USDt. So, owl.games is simply trying to avoid responsibilities

This is what always happened when you already on win track, but you decided to play again because your withdrawal still pending or because you are too greedy. Most of time, you will lose if you keep playing because of House Edge (idk how much % house edge on Bgaming).

If current bankroll of OWL.games is 300k USD, then it is understandable why there is a public lie and the aim is to avoid responsibility of paying out a winning of this size,

because it is 1/3 of their total capital.

If you knew they only has that amount as bankroll, you shouldn't play on their site anymore. Since you called yourself a highroller, you should be aware once you got huge win, your winning could get stuck because of that low bankroll.

So, @Owl.games, any update your game provider regarding OP's issue?
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November 13, 2022, 06:37:58 AM
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After 2-3 hours I decided that I wanted to play some more and then I played for about 4-5 hours without stopping. I went from 40k USDt to 3k USDt. So, owl.games is simply trying to avoid responsibilities

This is what always happened when you already on win track, but you decided to play again because your withdrawal still pending or because you are too greedy. Most of time, you will lose if you keep playing because of House Edge (idk how much % house edge on Bgaming).

If current bankroll of OWL.games is 300k USD, then it is understandable why there is a public lie and the aim is to avoid responsibility of paying out a winning of this size,

because it is 1/3 of their total capital.

If you knew they only has that amount as bankroll, you shouldn't play on their site anymore. Since you called yourself a highroller, you should be aware once you got huge win, your winning could get stuck because of that low bankroll.

So, @Owl.games, any update your game provider regarding OP's issue?

I don't know what comes first did he do research before playing or he did research after winning that amount, I guess he did research after he won because he wants to find out if Owl.game is still capable of paying in case he passed verification coming from the game provider I don't know the extend of his research but there is still such a thing as a cold wallet where they hide some or majority of their assets, but I still believe that Owl.game can still keep up paying this huge amount fo money.

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November 13, 2022, 07:23:38 AM
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100% agree

I presented evidence, it would be fair if other parties did the same.

I fully agree that response received from game providers should be made public here.
I am more interested to know how did you achieve 97% accuracy rate? Luck does not work like that. In skill games may be it's possible. But it seems you have used some hacks to get the result. I don't know how owl.games handle hacks but in many casinos, you can not use hacks or any kind of advantage in your favour to win slots.

OWL has to prove there is a hack if it really happened. Meanwhile, OP's claim is very real where he got photos as proof. He seems a very lucky rich gambler also. We are still waiting for OWL's update so no one yet is judged.

I think it will be impressive for OWL is they pay OP though. It a huge loss for them but they'd definitely win more trust after this.


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November 13, 2022, 07:47:27 AM
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I think it will be impressive for OWL is they pay OP though. It a huge loss for them but they'd definitely win more trust after this.
I am not going to judge if the amount to pay is impressive or not because I have seen even to pay over 300 BTC to a single player by sportsbook. A gambling business needs huge bankroll to pay big winnings.

I am more interested to see Owl.Games to show unbreakable evidence of the ratio they claimed for OP's win. At least this data is something that will not leak the extensive perimeters they use to find alt-account or any other system abuse.

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I'm really hoping that owl.games side can provide evidences against OP's own; that their claim is true that OP cheated and thus deserve the account suspension. Because if OP's claim is legit and Owl can't provide the counter-evidence, it would be another problem from Owl platform.

It's just less than one month ago I joined hand with other trusted members "intermediating" a platform --Moonbet.io--
 who locked their user's account, which after an internal investigation from moonbet side. it's revealed that owl kinda unilaterally banned their user.

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Due to our partnership with OwlDAO, some elements of the administrative side of Moonbet, most notably sportsbook trading, are simply out of our control. While we are still investigating exactly what has taken place, it looks like an overzealous trader may have banned this account without providing us the full details, which was obviously the wrong move.

As previously stated and Jason stated in the Telegram messages, any bets that were placed and won at Moonbet.io by the player will be paid in full. While placing limitations on certain players or markets is a standard practice in sports betting, outright banning somebody is not.
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