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November 17, 2022, 06:41:21 PM
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Thanks DdmrDdmr and Xal0lex for explanation and clarity. It feels good to learn everyday here. Now I have know in details how things work about bans.

I am new to bitcointalk forum. I don't know much about this forum.
I'm not verry sure about your confession, is this your main account or something happened by chance?

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Can you inbox the main Dr. Osh with legendary rank to confirm it the newbie Dr. Osh is his alt, if not, the newbie account deserves a negative tag to make it more clear that he is not related to the former.

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November 17, 2022, 07:26:51 PM
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I am new to bitcointalk forum. I don't know much about this forum.
I'm not verry sure about your confession, is this your main account or something happened by chance?

Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=561859

Sorry buddy it's not my account. And I don't have multiple accounts.

In this case, your account is an imposter. Such accounts are created for the purpose of deceiving users or scamming supposedly in the name of the person whose account name the scammer is copying. Such accounts are usually subject to a ban on our forum.

I nuke them when I see them.

Nuked.

Use Report to moderator button next time.

...I ban such accounts almost every day, if you see them, or if they PM you, report them ("Report to moderator" or "Report To Admin" if it's a PM).

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November 17, 2022, 08:40:18 PM
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Can you inbox the main Dr. Osh with legendary rank to confirm it the newbie Dr. Osh is his alt, if not, the newbie account deserves a negative tag to make it more clear that he is not related to the former.
The main user you're mean (Legendary) it seems like inactive for over 1.5 months since Oct 1st. Maybe he didn't know that a very similar account username was registered on 14/11/2022 and posted regularly for several days. But it seems 1 PM for Dr.Osh (Legendary) was enough to let him know.

In this case, your account is an imposter.
Imposter, seems right. People would think it was the same person if they never paid attention to the rank of the two accounts.

 

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November 18, 2022, 03:43:37 AM
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I am new to bitcointalk forum. I don't know much about this forum.
I'm not verry sure about your confession, is this your main account or something happened by chance?

Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=561859

Sorry buddy it's not my account. And I don't have multiple accounts.

In this case, your account is an imposter. Such accounts are created for the purpose of deceiving users or scamming supposedly in the name of the person whose account name the scammer is copying. Such accounts are usually subject to a ban on our forum.


I understand your point. But when I created this account I didn't know that there is another account with this name on Bitcointalk forum. And if I had known then I would never have done this mistake.
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November 18, 2022, 05:58:39 AM
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I am new to bitcointalk forum. I don't know much about this forum.
I'm not verry sure about your confession, is this your main account or something happened by chance?

Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=561859

Sorry buddy it's not my account. And I don't have multiple accounts.

In this case, your account is an imposter. Such accounts are created for the purpose of deceiving users or scamming supposedly in the name of the person whose account name the scammer is copying. Such accounts are usually subject to a ban on our forum.


I understand your point. But when I created this account I didn't know that there is another account with this name on Bitcointalk forum. And if I had known then I would never have done this mistake.
Lie again. Having created your nickname, the forum will definitely inform you that such a name already exists. That's why you fixed it and added a space. There is no need to invent anything; such coincidences cannot exist. You came to the forum with a purpose, and soon, I think, we will find it out. A newbie who is interested in the issue of a ban on the forum somehow does not look like a real newbie.
Do not consider yourself smarter; we have seen a lot of stories from scammers.

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I am new to bitcointalk forum. I don't know much about this forum.
I'm not verry sure about your confession, is this your main account or something happened by chance?

Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=561859

Sorry buddy it's not my account. And I don't have multiple accounts.

In this case, your account is an imposter. Such accounts are created for the purpose of deceiving users or scamming supposedly in the name of the person whose account name the scammer is copying. Such accounts are usually subject to a ban on our forum.


I understand your point. But when I created this account I didn't know that there is another account with this name on Bitcointalk forum. And if I had known then I would never have done this mistake.
Lie again.

I have a lot of respect for DT 1 and DT 2 members. But you can't slander someone for no reason. .

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Having created your nickname, the forum will definitely inform you that such a name already exists.

Yes, if it was the same name then the forum would have reported that such a name already existed. But for the slight gap between these two names the account is created correctly. As you can see, I have no problem with that.
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November 18, 2022, 07:51:35 PM
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I have a lot of respect for DT 1 and DT 2 members. But you can't slander someone for no reason. .

I'm just wondering, how do you know that lovesmayfamilis is a DT member?  Smiley

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Having created your nickname, the forum will definitely inform you that such a name already exists.

Yes, if it was the same name then the forum would have reported that such a name already existed. But for the slight gap between these two names the account is created correctly. As you can see, I have no problem with that.

So you claim that your choice of name, which happens to be the same as another member on the forum, is merely a coincidence? Well, I hope you can see how that can be a problem.

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Imposter, seems right. People would think it was the same person if they never paid attention to the rank of the two accounts.

 
That's why I'm telling everyone about this, but I don't know exactly if this is really intentional or not because in general the two accounts are very similar [impersonate identity].

Even if the OP wasn't trying to impersonate anyone else I really can't trust it as well as reason. I didn't try to tag it with anything, but maybe this would be a good option to prevent something the main account that has the same username would not expect.

In this case, your account is an imposter. Such accounts are created for the purpose of deceiving users or scamming supposedly in the name of the person whose account name the scammer is copying. Such accounts are usually subject to a ban on our forum.
I wonder what the next step, does the OP really have to be banned for this case?

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In this case, your account is an imposter. Such accounts are created for the purpose of deceiving users or scamming supposedly in the name of the person whose account name the scammer is copying. Such accounts are usually subject to a ban on our forum.
I wonder what the next step, does the OP really have to be banned for this case?

Good question Smiley Let the global moderators or administrators decide. Because if he gets nuked by regular moderators, all of his posts will be deleted, including this thread. If you're interested in my personal opinion, I think this imposter is no different from other imposters banned on this forum.

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Just some thoughts, if you wanted to keep two accounts as separate identities, you probably don't want to name them something similar, as that puts eyes on you, and starts the allegations. So, while it might be a reverse psychology attempt, it's probably better to just never have that attention on you in the first place.

So, while the usernames are similar that doesn't automatically mean they're linked, and we can't accuse users of that just because their usernames are similar. Well, technically almost identical. However, I'm not sure if that name is known for something? Maybe a character from a show or something? Since, admittedly the chances of having identical usernames is rather low, although a quick search doesn't yield anything. I guess what I'm trying to say is your assumptions might actually be right, and good instinct, but it's probably best we cover all angles first since without knowing all the context, and why they do have similar names we can't jump the gun, and just come to a conclusion based on gut feeling. Something that non admins likely don't have; in terms of context, especially considering the age of the accounts.

Although, that's besides the point. Dr.Osh i.e the Legendary account isn't banned, and therefore it's not like it would be ban evasion in the first place. The only thing that could be going on is a user posing as another user which obviously would be bannable. However, I imagine one of the users probably more likely the newer of the two could request a username change if the situation is deemed non malicious, and basically done unknowingly, since it probably will cause confusion in the long run. I'd have thought theymos would see that as a valid reason. I think there might have even been a case of this before, although I might be wrong on that.

The real question is whether this was an attempt to pose as the other user, which I guess would be hard to tell. Since no public attempts seem to have been made. The only way would potentially be through personal messages, but they'd have to be reported to know that. I guess the admins can take all the information provided, and work it out themselves as they have a little more information to work on. We're all working on an assumption here which probably isn't the best idea. Obviously, it's a good idea to bring this to attention though for all parties.

Usually, users that are looking to pose as others tend to make their moves privately rather than publicly. I've had a quick check over Dr.Osh's (legendary) posts, and they don't appear to be offering any services, that could be easily exploited this way; at least by threads created.

The above is my thought pattern when seeing things like this, and it's usually why I don't act upon any reports that don't have conclusive evidence, since I think it's better that the higher ups if you will, take a look at it instead.


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November 18, 2022, 11:56:54 PM
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The real question is whether this was an attempt to pose as the other user, which I guess would be hard to tell. Since no public attempts seem to have been made.


This could also be a complete coincidence and nothing more. Besides I have seen someone mention that the legendary Dr.Osh has never appeared in this forum for about 1.8 months. This means that he is not a regular name and would not likely be imposted by anyone.

Assuming the username was like Welshe, LoyceVe etc we could easily assume it is a clear attempt for imposter.
If the OP can buy your idea of applying for a name change it will be fine.

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Actually, Dr. Osh is the registered and copyrighted name of Dr Osh Cosmeceuticals London is a premium skincare line in its purest form, containing natural and active ingredients. Note the copyright symbol in the picture. So, this name is protected by copyright law. Well, I'm just saying Wink


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November 20, 2022, 08:55:27 AM
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The information that a forum account has been autobanned should be changed if you ask me. I am surprised that we don't see more topics in Meta with members asking why was this account automatically banned or why did a bot ban member X. "Auto" and "automatic" suggests that it wasn't done by a person, but in some automated way. Only if you are here long enough or you make some basic research, you will find out that each ban is issued manually by a real human being after investigating if a permanent ban is the best course of action or not.   

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