Where would Twitter go after its takeover by Elon Musk ?

[Maeve@]

I have to admit that Elon Musk’s mind is really smart, and he can invest his wealth in the right place, which always makes people’s eyes shine. This time, he will make the twitter program more optimized, which can replace more software. Would be a breathtaking move.

[FrancesF]

As a businessman, Musk is willing to invest so much money to tell Twitter that his plan is very big. It is obvious that the number of users on Twitter is quite large, and the returns he can bring far exceed his investment funds, which may bring Twitter to a greater direction.

[o48o]

Have you noticed any difference between Elon Musk's "free speech" or image on different social media ? I remember seeing some posts about Elon on TikTok and he was talking fine, like a pretty reasonable man; but on Twitter, he seems to be another person who is coercive, obssesive and divisive. Any thought about this ?

Yeah, i guess that reason for that is pretty simple: his main audience is in twitter and it seems that he is has focused trolling in that.
Especially now that twitter couldn't kick him out no matter what. My guess is this is his vision of free speech. He can say anything and others can say anything he allows. At some point when someone crosses him, his free speech illusion will fall totally. and he will totally pull out the "we are private company we can kick out anyone we one -card

He is addicted to likes as anyone else so he basically wants to appear as this eccentric genius to mask the fact he is anything but. When he gives interviews etc he is more balanced, but also very vague and won't speak in depth or in technical terms as can't. He would be called out for being wrong and doesn't like to be corrected. He even called that one guy pedo for doing so.

[Marcellin9]

Have you noticed any difference between Elon Musk's "free speech" or image on different social media ? I remember seeing some posts about Elon on TikTok and he was talking fine, like a pretty reasonable man; but on Twitter, he seems to be another person who is coercive, obssesive and divisive. Any thought about this ?

Yeah, i guess that reason for that is pretty simple: his main audience is in twitter and it seems that he is has focused trolling in that.
Especially now that twitter couldn't kick him out no matter what. My guess is this is his vision of free speech. He can say anything and others can say anything he allows. At some point when someone crosses him, his free speech illusion will fall totally. and he will totally pull out the "we are private company we can kick out anyone we one -card

He is addicted to likes as anyone else so he basically wants to appear as this eccentric genius to mask the fact he is anything but. When he gives interviews etc he is more balanced, but also very vague and won't speak in depth or in technical terms as can't. He would be called out for being wrong and doesn't like to be corrected. He even called that one guy pedo for doing so.

Agree. Elon is totally living in the world he fabricated. Recently he expressed the potential risk for assassination. We don't know him in person so it's not good to make any judgement. However, we can still get some clue from what has done and said in the past months, especially after he acquired Twitter. He seems to have jeopardized some big name's business and this is not simply a loss of money but more about political and social influence. In the States, the hidden rulers have always been that handful people/families and it is impossible to change. To them, even huge successful businessmen like Elon Musk are puppets. Disobey ? No way.

[Gyfts]

Twitter files part 2: https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601007575633305600

See part 1 here: https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394

Part 1 is less interesting, it merely covers the Hunter Biden laptop story suppression which we could see happening in real time in 2020. There isn't anything new.

In part 2, Bari Weiss uncovers the shadow banning of "right" leaning accounts on Twitter in order to suppress certain content. @libsoftiktok, popular right-wing account that uncovers deranged LGBT left wingers that have a odd fascination of posting bizarre clips of themselves on TikTok, was one of the accounts shadow banned.

In 2018, Twitter general counsel Vijaya Gadde denied the usage of shadow banning and suggested it was a conspiracy theory. Nonsense.

[TwitchySeal]

In 2018, Twitter general counsel Vijaya Gadde denied the usage of shadow banning and suggested it was a conspiracy theory. Nonsense.

Seems like she addressed it pretty accurately when claiming they don't shadow ban:
https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2018/Setting-the-record-straight-on-shadow-banning

The best definition we found is this: deliberately making someone’s content undiscoverable to everyone except the person who posted it, unbeknownst to the original poster.

We do not shadow ban. You are always able to see the tweets from accounts you follow (although you may have to do more work to find them, like go directly to their profile). And we certainly don’t shadow ban based on political viewpoints or ideology.

Everyone seems to be ignoring the definition of a shadow ban that was given when the claim was made and using a different definition that would make the statement a lie.

I've always thought of shadow bans in relation to chat rooms.  If someone gets shadow banned, they see their messages appearing in the chat  but nobody else can.  I believe this is the original use of the term.  The twitter equivalent would be someone tweeting and nobody else being able to see it.  Which isn't what's happening at twitter.

[OgNasty]

Everyone seems to be ignoring the definition of a shadow ban that was given when the claim was made and using a different definition that would make the statement a lie.

Semantics is the weakest form of argument.  Trying to use doublespeak now to pretend they weren't lying is ridiculous.  Twitter was lying and got caught red handed.  I'm sure the abuse goes even further than what we've already seen, and what we've already seen is enough to distrust our government.  When you look into all the details of ex-alphabet boys getting positions in Twitter to make their manipulation easier from the inside and it's clear as day that this has been happening.  Although everyone already knew this because it was obvious.  Now it's fact instead of conspiracy theory.  The really crazy part is that YouTube and Facebook are even worse offenders but have deeper pockets to avoid a buyout.  I hope this latest set of events has them terrified and questioning their bad behavior.  I hope it all comes to light in the end and liberals are able to digest they've been brainwashed while being mature enough to switch their views based on their new understanding of reality.

[TwitchySeal]

Everyone seems to be ignoring the definition of a shadow ban that was given when the claim was made and using a different definition that would make the statement a lie.

Semantics is the weakest form of argument.  Trying to use doublespeak now to pretend they weren't lying is ridiculous.  Twitter was lying and got caught red handed.  I'm sure the abuse goes even further than what we've already seen, and what we've already seen is enough to distrust our government.  When you look into all the details of ex-alphabet boys getting positions in Twitter to make their manipulation easier from the inside and it's clear as day that this has been happening.  Although everyone already knew this because it was obvious.  Now it's fact instead of conspiracy theory.  The really crazy part is that YouTube and Facebook are even worse offenders but have deeper pockets to avoid a buyout.  I hope this latest set of events has them terrified and questioning their bad behavior.  I hope it all comes to light in the end and liberals are able to digest they've been brainwashed while being mature enough to switch their views based on their new understanding of reality.

Try to put your hatred for the libs and love of Elon aside and look at this rationally. 

They clearly defined 'shadow ban' at the time of claiming they don't shadow ban people.  It's a reasonable definition.  imo, it's the most reasonable definition.  

They clearly explained that they did do what people are now claiming is shadow banning (making it harder to discover some tweets without following the user or searching for them).  

Because they provided the definition when making the claim, there's really no semantic debate on what they meant.  We know exactly what they meant.  You can't read their statement on shadowbanning and argue in good faith that "they said they didn't shadow ban, now we know they do, they lied about not shadow banning".  It's just not logical.

Semantics is the weakest form of argument.

Irrational, bad faith, uninformed arguments are weaker.

[OgNasty]

I’m just glad that now Twitter is out of the hands of liberal psychos. They were prioritizing silencing conservatives while leaving child porn thriving on the platform. I’m not sure if liberals are mad that conservatives now have an equal playing field or if they’re mad their child porn provider is going away, but one thing is for sure, it’s going to get a lot more difficult for these gender twisting groomers to achieve their goals on Twitter, and I think that’s a huge win for society.

[TwitchySeal]

I’m just glad that now Twitter is out of the hands of liberal psychos. They were prioritizing silencing conservatives while leaving child porn thriving on the platform. I’m not sure if liberals are mad that conservatives now have an equal playing field or if they’re mad their child porn provider is going away, but one thing is for sure, it’s going to get a lot more difficult for these gender twisting groomers to achieve their goals on Twitter, and I think that’s a huge win for society.

Jesus, how gullible are you?

Child porn was never thriving on Twitter or literally any major social media network.

[suchmoon]

Child porn was never thriving on Twitter or literally any major social media network.

"gender twisting groomers" (whatever that is) leads me to think that "child porn" might have been redefined in nutcase newspeak just like "shadow banning" was.

[TwitchySeal]

Child porn was never thriving on Twitter or literally any major social media network.

"gender twisting groomers" (whatever that is) leads me to think that "child porn" might have been redefined in nutcase newspeak just like "shadow banning" was.

sEmAnTiCs!

[BADecker]

Child porn was never thriving on Twitter or literally any major social media network.

"gender twisting groomers" (whatever that is) leads me to think that "child porn" might have been redefined in nutcase newspeak just like "shadow banning" was.

sEmAnTiCs!

Semantics is so bad that the term 'common law' has been codified into leagalease, just so that somebody using "common law" in court, has to define it to be outside of legalease, before he can use the real common law. If he doesn't, he automatically pushes himself into courtroom jurisdiction of the judge, often without even realizing it, and he uses legalease illegally in everything he says or writes pertaining to the case.

[OgNasty]

I’m just glad that now Twitter is out of the hands of liberal psychos. They were prioritizing silencing conservatives while leaving child porn thriving on the platform. I’m not sure if liberals are mad that conservatives now have an equal playing field or if they’re mad their child porn provider is going away, but one thing is for sure, it’s going to get a lot more difficult for these gender twisting groomers to achieve their goals on Twitter, and I think that’s a huge win for society.

Jesus, how gullible are you?

Child porn was never thriving on Twitter or literally any major social media network.

You realize that 1) you're wrong & 2) you're literally proving my point.  Defending child porn on Twitter by claiming it doesn't exist is either malicious or ignorant.  You can pick which one you are, as this is a statement of fact, not an opinion.

I get that liberals want to pretend they aren't groomers, but their activity is what matters.  Constantly defending child porn.  Wanting to censor anyone who disagrees with their lies.  Pretending there are more than 2 genders.  Trying to cancel anyone who doesn't go along with their fairytale.  Trying to say that dressing up as the opposite sex is being your true self and others can't handle it, when it's literally the exact opposite. Even the person in charge of handling this so called child porn issue that you deny was writing in this thesis for his PhD that children should be allowed to use grinder (an app for gays to find each other for sex).  What kind of a sick person hires someone like that for a position supposed to exist to weed out child porn?  I can't even grasp what sort of a stubborn idiot would still maintain that the way things were going was OK...  Then I remember that TwitchySeal is an extortionist troll and it makes sense. 

I usually don't argue with fools these days, as casuals usually can't tell who is who, but I think in this case it's blatantly obvious who the fool is.

[TwitchySeal]

I’m just glad that now Twitter is out of the hands of liberal psychos. They were prioritizing silencing conservatives while leaving child porn thriving on the platform. I’m not sure if liberals are mad that conservatives now have an equal playing field or if they’re mad their child porn provider is going away, but one thing is for sure, it’s going to get a lot more difficult for these gender twisting groomers to achieve their goals on Twitter, and I think that’s a huge win for society.

Jesus, how gullible are you?

Child porn was never thriving on Twitter or literally any major social media network.

You realize that 1) you're wrong & 2) you're literally proving my point.  Defending child porn on Twitter by claiming it doesn't exist is either malicious or ignorant.  You can pick which one you are, as this is a statement of fact, not an opinion.

I get that liberals want to pretend they aren't groomers, but their activity is what matters.  Constantly defending child porn.  Wanting to censor anyone who disagrees with their lies.  Pretending there are more than 2 genders.  Trying to cancel anyone who doesn't go along with their fairytale.  Trying to say that dressing up as the opposite sex is being your true self and others can't handle it, when it's literally the exact opposite. Even the person in charge of handling this so called child porn issue that you deny was writing in this thesis for his PhD that children should be allowed to use grinder (an app for gays to find each other for sex).  What kind of a sick person hires someone like that for a position supposed to exist to weed out child porn?  I can't even grasp what sort of a stubborn idiot would still maintain that the way things were going was OK...  Then I remember that TwitchySeal is an extortionist troll and it makes sense.  

I usually don't argue with fools these days, as casuals usually can't tell who is who, but I think in this case it's blatantly obvious who the fool is.

So you think the 10s of millions of people in America that identify as liberal have a secret agenda to groom children so that they can have sex with them.  I mean that's just insane.  Posting child porn on twitter would would be handled in a similar way as posting a bomb threat with law enforcement being involved immediately.

You need to quit falling for whoever has been feeding you this nonsense.  Liberals are just people that have different political views than you.  Having a different opinion on how government should run doesn't make someone a monster and making up ridiculous stories about them trying to fuck children doesn't accomplish anything productive. 

[mvdheuvel1983]

Elon Musk acquired Twitter about two weeks agao and Twitter has been All the news everywhere. His bold moves of firing a big portion of staff, changing major Twitter features and making more modifications are spurring waves of controversy. His supporters and adversaries are quite in fights. Where will Elon Musk lead Twitter ? Is Twitter heading to a wrong direction ?

Nobody can say whether Twitter is heading in the right direction or not we all just have to be patient and observe. So far, we have seen that since Elon Musk took over Twitter it has not been an easy ride. A lot of employees were fired well while some quit. There was also you off the blue marks subscription and verifying information on Twitter. Lately I have seen tweets from alone, sing that the engagement on Twitter has been at an all-time high. I believe that sooner or later Elon would make Twitter better than it has ever been.

[TwitchySeal]

Seems like Elon has finally realized that when you own a social media company, you have the right to suspend whoever you want and nobody has any sort of constitutional right to post on twitter.  Maybe he'll get his cult of fan boys to quit crying about free speech when youtube takes down their racist rants or anti vax nonsense. 




Twitter Suspends Accounts of Half a Dozen Journalists
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/15/technology/twitter-suspends-journalist-accounts-elon-musk.html

The accounts suspended included Ryan Mac of The New York Times; Drew Harwell of The Washington Post; Aaron Rupar, an independent journalist; Donie O’Sullivan of CNN; Matt Binder of Mashable; Tony Webster, an independent journalist; Micah Lee of The Intercept; and the political journalist Keith Olbermann. It was unclear what the suspensions had in common; each user’s Twitter page included a message that said it suspended accounts that “violate the Twitter rules.”

[suchmoon]

It was unclear what the suspensions had in common

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and make a wild guess that those journalists may have said some less than pleasant things about Elon, Tesla, or something else that really really hurt Elon's feelings, like his jet.

This is beautiful, can't wait for the trumplings to spin it as free speech absolutism.

[nutildah]

It was unclear what the suspensions had in common

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and make a wild guess that those journalists may have said some less than pleasant things about Elon, Tesla, or something else that really really hurt Elon's feelings, like his jet.

This is beautiful, can't wait for the trumplings to spin it as free speech absolutism.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588394145034678272

Makes me think he wasn't kidding when he said that.

In general I'm pro-Elon but the idea that a privately-owned platform has the power to grant "free speech" has always been silly... He shouldn't have laid into that angle so much. And yes I do wince every time he posts something political or shares fake news. It's been a tough year.

[o48o]

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Twitter Suspends Accounts of Half a Dozen Journalists
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/15/technology/twitter-suspends-journalist-accounts-elon-musk.html
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Didn't he say that this was about that guy following his private plane on twitter, which is public data. Meanwhile he posts video in his feed about some guy's register plate who tried follow him. Like a normal man with 121 million mob of followers would see this as a responsible thing to do.

Imagine if that stalker guy gets doxxed and gets harassed turns out to be some mentally challenged or mental patient, which elon is now ridiculing and basically calling for justice. I am pretty sure this rocket genius haven't even thought this far.