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November 21, 2022, 07:27:48 PM
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Qatar bribed the the 8 players and lost the match - who is spreading all these rumors?
There are so many controversies and there are so much going on in the stadium will be the biggest memory of the world cup for sure

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"Exclusive: Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players US$ 7.4 million to lose the opening match (1-0 second half)," strategic political affairs expert Amjad Taha via Twitter @MailSport quoted from Hindustan Times, Saturday (19/11) .

This very horrendous gossip was first spread starting from their statement, Qatar has lost in the ceremony match and I think we can forget about this issue, even though this rumor will go down in world cup history

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November 21, 2022, 07:30:01 PM
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Ecuador - 2
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I guess that tells us that the rumors of bribing were just meant to discredit the host and event unless they suddenly start scoring 3 goals in 10 to 15 minutes. It's really hard to think any country would allow themselves to be tainted on the most prestigious tournament in the world.

their scores do not really prove anything. As I said before a proper investigation should be done because despite Qatar losing in the opening match there is still a chance that the players of Ecuador were tried to be bribed and are telling the truth and if found that they are telling the truth appropriate actions should be done. but if they are found to be lying they should be found accountable for possible damages that were done because of the rumor.
The score indicates they're not throwin away a game.

It's the World Cup and not some unknown league or competition. They cannot throw a game that easily and not be suspected. Each participating country knows and understands the severity of the punishment for match fixing or bribing so it makes no sense for Qatar to make such offer and face a huge penalty after spending so much for hosting the event.
Qatar bribed the the 8 players and lost the match - who is spreading all these rumors?
There are so many controversies and there are so much going on in the stadium will be the biggest memory of the world cup for sure

We need to forget about this news and rumor and move on. We now know that Qatar was honest and they did not cheat.
Perhaps a loss was good for them.

Apart from the match, the stadiums and everything's look so beautiful at Qatar. They have really worked hard to produce a masterpiece stadiums at Doha and nearby.

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November 21, 2022, 07:31:35 PM
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Ecuador - 2
Qatar - 0

I guess that tells us that the rumors of bribing were just meant to discredit the host and event unless they suddenly start scoring 3 goals in 10 to 15 minutes. It's really hard to think any country would allow themselves to be tainted on the most prestigious tournament in the world.

their scores do not really prove anything. As I said before a proper investigation should be done because despite Qatar losing in the opening match there is still a chance that the players of Ecuador were tried to be bribed and are telling the truth and if found that they are telling the truth appropriate actions should be done. but if they are found to be lying they should be found accountable for possible damages that were done because of the rumor.
The score indicates they're not throwin away a game.

It's the World Cup and not some unknown league or competition. They cannot throw a game that easily and not be suspected. Each participating country knows and understands the severity of the punishment for match fixing or bribing so it makes no sense for Qatar to make such offer and face a huge penalty after spending so much for hosting the event.
Qatar bribed the the 8 players and lost the match - who is spreading all these rumors?
There are so many controversies and there are so much going on in the stadium will be the biggest memory of the world cup for sure
It would really be raising lots of questions on whats the motive on spreading out these rumors? Some are saying that it didnt really happen because it was been bust up which they didnt really let it for it to happen.

It would be the biggest issue on where on attached on WC.We dont actually know on whats the origin of this rumor which is really that something a very bad thing if it did really happen.

Comparing both teams then you could say which one is strong and which one is not.It would really be raising eyebrows if Qatar did able to beat up Ecuador. Cheesy

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November 21, 2022, 08:39:39 PM
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It would really be raising lots of questions on whats the motive on spreading out these rumors? Some are saying that it didnt really happen because it was been bust up which they didnt really let it for it to happen.
Maybe it happen but since it was exposed they did not push through with it because the world will watch and observe how both team will play

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It would be the biggest issue on where on attached on WC.We dont actually know on whats the origin of this rumor which is really that something a very bad thing if it did really happen.
it's very controversial indeed definitely it comes from those who don't want Qatar to host the World Cup and put them in an embarrassing situation

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Comparing both teams then you could say which one is strong and which one is not.It would really be raising eyebrows if Qatar did able to beat up Ecuador. Cheesy
If this comes after they beat Ecuador this is not going to be good for Qatar's campaign every game people will have a suspicion if they bribe the other team, maybe they just want to win the opener as a good omen.
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November 22, 2022, 04:07:05 AM
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This very horrendous gossip was first spread starting from their statement, Qatar has lost in the ceremony match and I think we can forget about this issue, even though this rumor will go down in world cup history

Qatar deserves whatever shit they are getting right now. Ever since they won the hosting rights in 2010 (by bribing delegates from poor nations), they have behaved in such a shameless manner. They have refused to compensate dead migrant workers and they banned beer in the stadiums just two days before the kickoff. If these sort of allegations are levelled against any other team (say for example Iran or United States), we would probably ignore it. But that is not the case with Qatar, because we already know how corrupt they are.

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November 22, 2022, 06:42:55 AM
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This very horrendous gossip was first spread starting from their statement, Qatar has lost in the ceremony match and I think we can forget about this issue, even though this rumor will go down in world cup history

Qatar deserves whatever shit they are getting right now. Ever since they won the hosting rights in 2010 (by bribing delegates from poor nations), they have behaved in such a shameless manner. They have refused to compensate dead migrant workers and they banned beer in the stadiums just two days before the kickoff. If these sort of allegations are levelled against any other team (say for example Iran or United States), we would probably ignore it. But that is not the case with Qatar, because we already know how corrupt they are.

Qatar has done everything in superb manner to host this worldcup. They spend 230 billion USD for this worldcup, I dont know whether news about this thread is true or not. since Qatar lost the game so we can say they this is not true. Poor migrant worker face same treatment not only in Qatar but in whole gulf.
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This very horrendous gossip was first spread starting from their statement, Qatar has lost in the ceremony match and I think we can forget about this issue, even though this rumor will go down in world cup history

Qatar deserves whatever shit they are getting right now. Ever since they won the hosting rights in 2010 (by bribing delegates from poor nations), they have behaved in such a shameless manner. They have refused to compensate dead migrant workers and they banned beer in the stadiums just two days before the kickoff. If these sort of allegations are levelled against any other team (say for example Iran or United States), we would probably ignore it. But that is not the case with Qatar, because we already know how corrupt they are.

Qatar has done everything in superb manner to host this worldcup. They spend 230 billion USD for this worldcup, I dont know whether news about this thread is true or not. since Qatar lost the game so we can say they this is not true. Poor migrant worker face same treatment not only in Qatar but in whole gulf.

I don't know how much Qatar spent on hosting the world cup. What I know is that they didn't provided even $1 in compensation for those migrant workers who died during the construction of these stadiums.


https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde22/4614/2021/en/ (check the report, it explicitly states that Qatar never paid any compensation to the families of dead workers)

The official report from Amnesty is that ~6,500 workers died during the 2011-2020 period. However unofficial reports claim that the number of deaths amounts to 15,021. If they had spent $230 billion in the construction of stadiums, they could have spent less than 0.01% of that amount to provide a compensation of $1,000 each to the dead workers.

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With corruption allegations surrounding Qatars hosting of the worldcup and a very expensive hosting of the game thanks to new structures and all, it's very easy not to make such match fixing claims because these guys aren't much of a footballing nation and can afford a few pieces of silver for their glory... Tbh at this point a genuine win by them will easily be taken as a bought game, but on paper they are the weaker team of the group.

 
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There are just unfortunate seasons for our favorite teams including by chance fortune and manipulated. I am hearing a lot recently about the league wherein they've really expected their teams to move on the next stage but emded up losing with an underdog team. I can relate even if I'm into a different sports. Maybe such thing could occur in any league. That's a part of it even if it would seem not to, 'coz of allegations. But as others are saying, it would be more impossible to reset the game. The results are final and we need to accept it even if it is hard. There will be another seasons or league for our biases and we just have to be patient as their fan.

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November 23, 2022, 04:46:31 PM
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With corruption allegations surrounding Qatars hosting of the worldcup and a very expensive hosting of the game thanks to new structures and all, it's very easy not to make such match fixing claims because these guys aren't much of a footballing nation and can afford a few pieces of silver for their glory... Tbh at this point a genuine win by them will easily be taken as a bought game, but on paper they are the weaker team of the group.

Partially, I did not believe that news right away, but because it is Qatar, I cannot just say that it isn't impossible. Especially when $7.4 million is only dust money for that tiny yet super-rich gulf nation. Now it is becoming more impossible for Qatar to win a single game when Maneless Senegal played a high-level game against the Netherlands. It was just unfortunate for Senegal when unexpectedly the Netherlands landed 2 goals in the dying minutes of the game. The way Senegal and Qatar played in their previous games, I give zero chance for the latter to win except if miracles are true.

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Partially, I did not believe that news right away, but because it is Qatar, I cannot just say that it isn't impossible. Especially when $7.4 million is only dust money for that tiny yet super-rich gulf nation. Now it is becoming more impossible for Qatar to win a single game when Maneless Senegal played a high-level game against the Netherlands. It was just unfortunate for Senegal when unexpectedly the Netherlands landed 2 goals in the dying minutes of the game. The way Senegal and Qatar played in their previous games, I give zero chance for the latter to win except if miracles are true.

I watched both matches, and can say that Senegal performed better in their match against Netherlands, when compared to the performance by Qatar against Ecuador. Qatar's remaining matches are against Netherlands and Senegal. There is absolutely zero chance that they will get any points from the first one. So their only hope is against Senegal. The latter are playing without their best player, so a win for Qatar is possible. But if they underestimate Senegal, then they will be the first host team to finish with zero points in the preliminary phase.

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1. Qatar vs Ecuador match was done and Ecuador won for 2-0 against Qatar.
2. No evidence if Qatar bribed 8 players from Ecuador.
3. Why no one discuss if Saudi Arabia bribed Argentina players and Japan bribed Germany players? Cheesy

There's nothing should be discussed anymore, why we need to discuss to a match that has been ended and the result goes wrong with people prediction. I ask to @OP to lock this thread and just focus to the next world cup match.

 
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1. Qatar vs Ecuador match was done and Ecuador won for 2-0 against Qatar.
2. No evidence if Qatar bribed 8 players from Ecuador.
3. Why no one discuss if Saudi Arabia bribed Argentina players and Japan bribed Germany players? Cheesy

There's nothing should be discussed anymore, why we need to discuss to a match that has been ended and the result goes wrong with people prediction. I ask to @OP to lock this thread and just focus to the next world cup match.

Even though Ecuador won the match, it would still be nice to know if there was bribing happening or not. Seems like a big deal to me if the host country really engages in trying to bribe the enemy team. Only the attempt on it's own should already have major consequences and remove Qatar from the worldcup. I am not so sure about the average wages for professional football players in Ecuador, but to me it seems that 1 million is a huge amount. Shouldn't that be flagged by the banks? When 8 players get so much money added to their bank account there should be some kind of proof that could easily be investigated. It baffles me a bit that there is no demand by the international community to investigate the claims furthers. Also there was no need for Japan to bribe any Germany players, we are doing this happily on our own. 4 years ago it was South Korea, now it's Japan. The german team can't handle the pressure. Gonda played exceptionally well during that match, he deserves to win. Now I am rooting for a Japan to get far during the tournament as I lost all my money on Germany and not going to trust them again this cup. 
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All the rumours about Qatar bribing Ecuador are all fake from the bottom of hell. Such rumours should be discarded especially when Ecuador finally won Qatar. Assuming Qatar won Ecuador, the rumour would have gotten another level of relevance, but as it appears now this rumour is dead.

The OP  of this thread  or hilariousandco should lock this thread because it is a thread that deceives and spread false information that has the capacity to deceive gamblers to lose money.

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November 24, 2022, 07:01:34 PM
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All the rumours about Qatar bribing Ecuador are all fake from the bottom of hell. Such rumours should be discarded especially when Ecuador finally won Qatar. Assuming Qatar won Ecuador, the rumour would have gotten another level of relevance, but as it appears now this rumour is dead.

The OP  of this thread  or hilariousandco should lock this thread because it is a thread that deceives and spread false information that has the capacity to deceive gamblers to lose money.

Well, is there any news that the media house which first produced this fake news got plenty for publishing and telling false information to the public?

Apart from betting, and influencing the gamblers to make wrong betting on this fake news, this is a matter of National dignity and it was done to put a bad name to the world cup hosts Qatar.

I think the Qatar government should take it seriously and demand punishment for those who publish this fake news.

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November 25, 2022, 10:49:21 AM
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All the rumours about Qatar bribing Ecuador are all fake from the bottom of hell. Such rumours should be discarded especially when Ecuador finally won Qatar. Assuming Qatar won Ecuador, the rumour would have gotten another level of relevance, but as it appears now this rumour is dead.

The OP  of this thread  or hilariousandco should lock this thread because it is a thread that deceives and spread false information that has the capacity to deceive gamblers to lose money.

Well, is there any news that the media house which first produced this fake news got plenty for publishing and telling false information to the public?

Apart from betting, and influencing the gamblers to make wrong betting on this fake news, this is a matter of National dignity and it was done to put a bad name to the world cup hosts Qatar.

I think the Qatar government should take it seriously and demand punishment for those who publish this fake news.
The goverment is too busy organizing and dealing with the fans maybe later when the world cup is over - they will catch the people acountable.
But I think this is not a good thing to do propaganda against any country or religion

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November 25, 2022, 09:29:03 PM
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The goverment is too busy organizing and dealing with the fans maybe later when the world cup is over - they will catch the people acountable.
But I think this is not a good thing to do propaganda against any country or religion
It can be true that they are busy in regards to organizing the event but I don't think it was their duty to accommodate the fans. Fans should be handled already by the players or can also depend on their managers.

Now that Qatar losses the match, I hope the negative rumours about them are now going to disappear and the government won't bother talking an action after the event is over. They will just relax and then move on to their other projects. In everything that we do, there will always be a hater but I think what triggers these haters is the tragic event that happened to the workers on building the stadium (as seen on the above post by @Sithara007).
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November 25, 2022, 09:31:22 PM
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They will have enough money in Qatar, but such bribery scandals are too striking. Then players would have to consciously make mistakes, you can't do something like that inconspicuously. And what about the money the players get? Then there would be bank transfers or a large sum of money at once. Players from both Ecuador and Qatar also have a great sense of honor, you don't often hear about bribery at a World Cup. But when players are bribed, it is often because bets are being placed on those matches. Since that wouldn't be the issue right now, you could get away with it. But looking at the level of the first game, I think it was the other way around  Grin

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November 25, 2022, 10:38:11 PM
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It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Some sources:
https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/
https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?

I'd be more worried about the refs calling some terribly placed calls during a tight game then players from another te throwing the game.  I hope no one on bet on Qatar based on this information.  I know there is scandle throughout soccer but hopefully it's minimal during the world cup.  Takes the fun out of watching each match.
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November 25, 2022, 10:47:05 PM
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They will have enough money in Qatar, but such bribery scandals are too striking. Then players would have to consciously make mistakes, you can't do something like that inconspicuously. And what about the money the players get? Then there would be bank transfers or a large sum of money at once. Players from both Ecuador and Qatar also have a great sense of honor, you don't often hear about bribery at a World Cup. But when players are bribed, it is often because bets are being placed on those matches. Since that wouldn't be the issue right now, you could get away with it. But looking at the level of the first game, I think it was the other way around  Grin

seems that the rumour may not be true after all. we have seen how the game went down. so maybe, certain people or entities just wanted to spread the false news of this bribery. we don't know, especially if there was large sum of money involved. this is why, just trust your instincts esp. if you are betting your own money. we can't trust the hearsays. they usually turned out to be fake.

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