Qatar bribed 8 players from Ecuador for the opening match

[Fundamentals Of]

Talks of bribe and fixed matches can hardly convince me. I'm usually suspicious of such talks. I know it is happening but without heavy evidences I would rather assume that things are running normally. But knowing Qatar a little bit and how the royals there could extravagantly spend huge amounts of money for whatever they have in mind regardless of whether they're just for a mere hobby or for image building or for pride or simply for ostentatious showing of wealth, it is possible.

But it seems they failed to include Valencia in the bribery. Lol.

[BobK71]

Talks of bribe and fixed matches can hardly convince me. I'm usually suspicious of such talks. I know it is happening but without heavy evidences I would rather assume that things are running normally. But knowing Qatar a little bit and how the royals there could extravagantly spend huge amounts of money for whatever they have in mind regardless of whether they're just for a mere hobby or for image building or for pride or simply for ostentatious showing of wealth, it is possible.

But it seems they failed to include Valencia in the bribery. Lol.

Match fixing was buzzing about the World Cup opening match. But in the end it wasn't true. If Ecuador had lost that match, there would have been many rumors about this match. If it is fixed match then it could have seen Qatar score in the second half after the first half ended. But nothing was reflected. Qatar's poor performance keep Qatar at the bottom. Since billions of dollars are gambled every day on the win or loss of this match, fake news are always spreading in various ways.

[Despairo]

This was proven wrong with yesterday's match. Ecuador won the match with nearly very little effort because of skill difference between two teams. This clearly shows people should blindly following match fixing rumors. We can all agree some match fixing happens around. Especially in lower leagues. But I don't think someone can fix World Cup match or Champions League match. Must be impossible because too visible.

This is why I previously said we don't know the person who make this rumor and there's no proof at all, but the media just spread out this rumor in order to gain traffic. Medias and journalist wouldn't verify any proof before make an article, what they know is find a hot topic to get traffic. When the rumor proved wrong, they can just either delete their article or create another article lol just like they wasn't did something wrong.

[Oshosondy]

This is why I previously said we don't know the person who make this rumor and there's no proof at all, but the media just spread out this rumor in order to gain traffic. Medias and journalist wouldn't verify any proof before make an article, what they know is find a hot topic to get traffic. When the rumor proved wrong, they can just either delete their article or create another article lol just like they wasn't did something wrong.

Just from the reading of the news, you would have known that Qatar government can not do something stupid like that, how would they bribe 8 players to sacrifice their integrity. The rumour was just because Qatar is hosting world cup and they think that having the first mtch with Ecuador, that they will not want to lose it because Ecuador players are far better, they play faster and have more chance to win. That is just news, there are lies in news, that is why I prefer to read better news that will bring out such if it actually it is true, but I saw nothing like that on BBC, though no news is 100% accurate sometimes.

[Maestro75]

Also, I think there is a very high probability that it is a fake news made to influence betting predictions. Legal investigation should be initiated against whoever made this claim.

There is always a little truth in every rumour. We should not conclude it is a fake news. FIFA should look into that accusation eventhough Qatar lost the opening match to those they were accused of attempting to bribe. I believe something went on there and should be investigated and not swept off like that. It will be really bad for Qatar if they are guilty of it. It is not enough to reject alcohol while you commit other immoral acts.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Also, I think there is a very high probability that it is a fake news made to influence betting predictions. Legal investigation should be initiated against whoever made this claim.

There is always a little truth in every rumour. We should not conclude it is a fake news. FIFA should look into that accusation eventhough Qatar lost the opening match to those they were accused of attempting to bribe. I believe something went on there and should be investigated and not swept off like that. It will be really bad for Qatar if they are guilty of it. It is not enough to reject alcohol while you commit other immoral acts.

There is alot happening while FIFA is going on and this might be a part of that as Qatar lost their opening match with Ecuador there is a possibility of this being wrong or false but there is no smoke without fire .definitely administration should look into this matter as this is not a small accusations for host country .

[STT]

You do know if this was real or not because it really doesnt add up.   The national team are there to best represent their country, its far too obvious a scheme to play out well.  The only people who would want to bribe in a game are for profit and hoping not to get caught, this whole match is very high publicity its a bad bet from the start because of that giant spotlight on the match.
  Its rumors nothing more, it doesnt add up even from a completely corrupt point of view its a bad value bribe to enter into this game in such a way.   The corrupt people in this game want no attention for their endeavors, they want profits easy as possible and this is not it.   You all already know this, people love to gossip for fun thats what I hear when this story is told; hope it was fun for whomever to spread.

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Also, I think there is a very high probability that it is a fake news made to influence betting predictions. Legal investigation should be initiated against whoever made this claim.

There is always a little truth in every rumour. We should not conclude it is a fake news. FIFA should look into that accusation eventhough Qatar lost the opening match to those they were accused of attempting to bribe. I believe something went on there and should be investigated and not swept off like that. It will be really bad for Qatar if they are guilty of it. It is not enough to reject alcohol while you commit other immoral acts.

What has been done here is not to cast doubt on Qatar or FIFA. What has been done here is to smear football. I am a football lover and I think that gossip products without any proof should be kept away from football. Instead of slandering football with freak rhetoric, we should talk with concrete data and we should not give an opportunity to those who want to slander football.

If we give the opportunity to freak discourses, we can produce freak statements about the results of the investigation (there may be some who say that the results of the investigation are made with bribery). If we enter such a cycle, we will live the rest of our lives with freak discourses instead of living with concrete data.

I don't think such a thing would be very wise.

[piebeyb]

the people who bet on a draw may have lost last night's bet, but lucky for those who bet for ecuador have won the game, ecuador's win at the same time dispelling the news about bribes circulating everywhere, I think OP needs to lock this thread because the Qatar and Ecuador match is over and it looks like Qatar still needs to increase their confidence as hosts in the world cup at least they can play better against Senegal later 

[yazher]

This was proven wrong with yesterday's match. Ecuador won the match with nearly very little effort because of skill difference between two teams. This clearly shows people should blindly following match fixing rumors. We can all agree some match fixing happens around. Especially in lower leagues. But I don't think someone can fix World Cup match or Champions League match. Must be impossible because too visible.

That's what really matters because we need to know which league we are talking about and for Qatar to first-time host a huge event, they won't try anything funny just to look good for the visitors because this is not only for the games but also to show how great their country is and don't forget they are also promoting tourism. I also believe about match-fixing happened in some sports but this time it won't gonna happen because Qatar is fair and square and we know how it really turns out because the Ecuador are in the whole different level when it comes to this sport compared to them.

[rahmad2nd]

the people who bet on a draw may have lost last night's bet, but lucky for those who bet for ecuador have won the game, ecuador's win at the same time dispelling the news about bribes circulating everywhere, I think OP needs to lock this thread because the Qatar and Ecuador match is over and it looks like Qatar still needs to increase their confidence as hosts in the world cup at least they can play better against Senegal later  

IMO, the match wasn't very interesting, there wasn't much buying and selling of attacks from the two teams. The Qatar squad's defeat had been smelled since the early minutes of the match. they played under high pressure, the result was that the Qatar national team had to bear the shame in front of their own public, they had to surrender to being conquered by Ecuador.

lucky for those who bet for Ecuador, I myself bet for the home team. and yes, we lost. however, the defeat of the home team in this opening game broke the issue of bribery which had become a hot topic of conversation in almost all sports news. at least, what was rumored in fact did not happen at all. and I agree with you, it's a good thing OP locked this thread.

[slaman29]

First of all, to win a match you bribe an official, not a player, because unless you manage to bribe the entire team, even 1 suspicious teammate will bring the whole effort down. 1 official is enough. That was such a dumb news.

if they succeed in bribing a number of core teams of course it will also be difficult if Ecuador will not score goals let alone manage to bribe the main striker, I think that also has an effect, but again maybe it's just fake news and as hosts Qatar really plays well, no anyone knows the truth, all will be seen in a few hours when the game starts

Well as they showed, nobody from Ecuador was being bribed, lol. Everyone played to the the maximum even in the first half and got so many chances while preventing even a single movement from Qatar in their own penalty box, much less a shot attempt until injury time in the first half.

Fake news proven, so let's put this matter to rest!!

[acroman08]

@acroman08 you can't judge them from a far. As you can see it from your TV if you are not in the stadium, there was nothing like bribery game on the pitch. Qatar has weak players and Ecuador has a strong team. So. I didn't see anything like as the op in the match.

I am not saying that there was or that there is, I am simply saying that an investigation should be done and prove whether it was just a rumor or not. besides, if they find out if the rumor is proven not to be true it could remove the bad image the Qatar team has received because of it.

[BobK71]

@acroman08 you can't judge them from a far. As you can see it from your TV if you are not in the stadium, there was nothing like bribery game on the pitch. Qatar has weak players and Ecuador has a strong team. So. I didn't see anything like as the op in the match.

I am not saying that there was or that there is, I am simply saying that an investigation should be done and prove whether it was just a rumor or not. besides, if they find out if the rumor is proven not to be true it could remove the bad image the Qatar team has received because of it.

I think there is no significant role in running behind such rumors. Because anyone can spread rumors. If someone can directly say that this is true then Qatar will take its legal measures otherwise no one will chase after an unknown or fake event. In this case it can only be considered as rumor and the game already finished so it would be nothing.

[qwertyup23]

It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Some sources:
https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/
https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?

Wait, so if Qatar bribed players, should not they be held accountable for game fixing? Isn't this also a conclusive reason in order to prevent any hosting of world cup on their country as well? With this kind of shady tactics, who knows what they also engaged in the past or in the future with the money that they have.

This is just disgusting in all levels- bribing players to intentionally lose in a world cup opener. They are actually belittling the sport and making this a money-grab industry where you can actually buy people.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

@acroman08 you can't judge them from a far. As you can see it from your TV if you are not in the stadium, there was nothing like bribery game on the pitch. Qatar has weak players and Ecuador has a strong team. So. I didn't see anything like as the op in the match.

I am not saying that there was or that there is, I am simply saying that an investigation should be done and prove whether it was just a rumor or not. besides, if they find out if the rumor is proven not to be true it could remove the bad image the Qatar team has received because of it.

I think there is no significant role in running behind such rumors. Because anyone can spread rumors. If someone can directly say that this is true then Qatar will take its legal measures otherwise no one will chase after an unknown or fake event. In this case it can only be considered as rumor and the game already finished so it would be nothing.

With Qatar loosing 2:0 to Ecuador, it is already justified that this claim was nothing but a rumor, there is no way Qatar must have bribed Ecuador to allow them win the match and they will still loose, by now, the news of their disagreement would have spread all over the globe.
So this claim that Qatar bribed Ecuador, to me, is just one of such fake news spread by some individuals who do not have anything meaningful to contribute to the ongoing world cup match.

On the other hand, maybe if Qatar had won the match, then many would have believed this rumor including myself, then maybe the authorities would have stepped in to investigate the matter, and make sure that Qatar's win is justified.

[Awaklara]

On the other hand, maybe if Qatar had won the match, then many would have believed this rumor including myself, then maybe the authorities would have stepped in to investigate the matter, and make sure that Qatar's win is justified.

yes, if Qatar wins, of course many will believe the rumors. It was not difficult for Qatar to bribe Ecuador players. but now we know the truth.
maybe this is also because of the public's view of paid supporters in stadiums which has recently gone viral on social media. so the media develop rumors that have no proof. I think there will be more rumors in this world cup. many media develop fake news only for their profit.

[noormcs5]

On the other hand, maybe if Qatar had won the match, then many would have believed this rumor including myself, then maybe the authorities would have stepped in to investigate the matter, and make sure that Qatar's win is justified.

yes, if Qatar wins, of course many will believe the rumors. It was not difficult for Qatar to bribe Ecuador players. but now we know the truth.
maybe this is also because of the public's view of paid supporters in stadiums which has recently gone viral on social media. so the media develop rumors that have no proof. I think there will be more rumors in this world cup. many media develop fake news only for their profit.

So where are those people who were spreading fake news about the bribe in the opening match?
Also, those who were saying that Qatar bribed Ecuador, what do that they have to say about this now? They must be feeling ashamed telling fake news and trying to bring bad names to the host team.
It's better for Qatar to lose the match rather than to win it through the bribe.

[Yogee]

Ecuador - 2
Qatar - 0

I guess that tells us that the rumors of bribing were just meant to discredit the host and event unless they suddenly start scoring 3 goals in 10 to 15 minutes. It's really hard to think any country would allow themselves to be tainted on the most prestigious tournament in the world.

their scores do not really prove anything. As I said before a proper investigation should be done because despite Qatar losing in the opening match there is still a chance that the players of Ecuador were tried to be bribed and are telling the truth and if found that they are telling the truth appropriate actions should be done. but if they are found to be lying they should be found accountable for possible damages that were done because of the rumor.

The score indicates they're not throwin away a game.

It's the World Cup and not some unknown league or competition. They cannot throw a game that easily and not be suspected. Each participating country knows and understands the severity of the punishment for match fixing or bribing so it makes no sense for Qatar to make such offer and face a huge penalty after spending so much for hosting the event.

[Cryptock]

Ecuador - 2
Qatar - 0

I guess that tells us that the rumors of bribing were just meant to discredit the host and event unless they suddenly start scoring 3 goals in 10 to 15 minutes. It's really hard to think any country would allow themselves to be tainted on the most prestigious tournament in the world.

their scores do not really prove anything. As I said before a proper investigation should be done because despite Qatar losing in the opening match there is still a chance that the players of Ecuador were tried to be bribed and are telling the truth and if found that they are telling the truth appropriate actions should be done. but if they are found to be lying they should be found accountable for possible damages that were done because of the rumor.

The score indicates they're not throwin away a game.

It's the World Cup and not some unknown league or competition. They cannot throw a game that easily and not be suspected. Each participating country knows and understands the severity of the punishment for match fixing or bribing so it makes no sense for Qatar to make such offer and face a huge penalty after spending so much for hosting the event.

Qatar bribed the the 8 players and lost the match - who is spreading all these rumors?
There are so many controversies and there are so much going on in the stadium will be the biggest memory of the world cup for sure