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[Bitcoin_Arena]

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1. Outages can happen once in a while due to DDoS attacks and other technical issues. What do you do in this case when the service goes offline for 24 hours, with some user orders not yet processed? If by that time the letter of guarantee is obsolete, how will the innocent users prove to own the funds in unfinished orders?

2. A second link to the terms of service could also do well at the footer of the home page of the site.

[Mixero]

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1. Outages can happen once in a while due to DDoS attacks and other technical issues. What do you do in this case when the service goes offline for 24 hours, with some user orders not yet processed? If by that time the letter of guarantee is obsolete, how will the innocent users prove to own the funds in unfinished orders?

2. A second link to the terms of service could also do well at the footer of the home page of the site.

Hello, even if in the worst case scenario the site is down, the user must have downloaded the letter as soon as the payment was created. As soon as the user sends the funds, the letter should already have been downloaded. We do everything we can to prevent this from happening, in particular by using DDoS-Guard and our own firewall.

If the user has not had time to download the letter and the website is unavailable for several hours, we may help the user in another way than with the letter only if we judge that the situation and the state of the website may have caused the user not to download the letter.

[AB de Royse777]

1. Outages can happen once in a while due to DDoS attacks and other technical issues. What do you do in this case when the service goes offline for 24 hours, with some user orders not yet processed? If by that time the letter of guarantee is obsolete, how will the innocent users prove to own the funds in unfinished orders?

The letter of Guarantee comes first and in the letter they give you has sending address . You can always verify the LOG. One should not send any coin without verifying the signed message of LOG.

[japanese1980]

Do I have to pay the 0.0003 BTC fee for advanced mode too?

[Mixero]

Do I have to pay the 0.0003 BTC fee for advanced mode too?

Hello, the fee of 0.0003 BTC is only for the coinjoin method. The advanced fees are only service fees but also mining fees which are quite minimal.

[japanese1980]

Do I have to pay the 0.0003 BTC fee for advanced mode too?

Hello, the fee of 0.0003 BTC is only for the coinjoin method. The advanced fees are only service fees but also mining fees which are quite minimal.

Thanks for the reply.
What are the advantages of coinjoin method over advanced method?
I feel that the anonymity is inferior to advanced method, although the fee is higher than advance mode.
What are the advantages of using coinjoin method?

[Mixero]

Do I have to pay the 0.0003 BTC fee for advanced mode too?

Hello, the fee of 0.0003 BTC is only for the coinjoin method. The advanced fees are only service fees but also mining fees which are quite minimal.

Thanks for the reply.
What are the advantages of coinjoin method over advanced method?
I feel that the anonymity is inferior to advanced method, although the fee is higher than advance mode.
What are the advantages of using coinjoin method?

Hello, additional costs (0.0003 BTC) are deducted when using coinjoin. But on the other hand, the minimum service fees are quite low compared to the minimum advanced service fees, which makes all the difference on large sums.

We recommend that users who are very concerned about their privacy use our advanced method, which is much more anonymous than coinjoin. The principle of this method is to use monero as an intermediary to prevent any on-chain analysis.

Coinjoin, on the other hand, allows several users to combine their transactions into a single transaction, making it difficult to determine the correspondence between inputs and outputs.

[daniel433433]

Hello, I'm faced with a problem that I can't understand how long it takes to receive a transfer, I've been waiting for more than six hours, I chose the advanced method.
I tried to contact the support service by email which is listed on the website [banned mixer]@protonmail.com.

The email tracker shows that the message has already been reviewed, but no one has been answering me for a long time.
The blockchain shows that the transfer was made to the specified wallet, but nothing else happens.

I can't find any explanation.

[Mixero]

Hello, I'm faced with a problem that I can't understand how long it takes to receive a transfer, I've been waiting for more than six hours, I chose the advanced method.
I tried to contact the support service by email which is listed on the website [banned mixer]@protonmail.com.

The email tracker shows that the message has already been reviewed, but no one has been answering me for a long time.
The blockchain shows that the transfer was made to the specified wallet, but nothing else happens.

I can't find any explanation.

Hello, we have replied to your email. We are experiencing a liquidity problem for our advanced method, we do not have an exact timeframe for when the problem will be resolved. It should be solved in a few hours. We are currently working to solve it as soon as possible.

[dkbit98]

Hello, we have replied to your email. We are experiencing a liquidity problem for our advanced method, we do not have an exact timeframe for when the problem will be resolved. It should be solved in a few hours. We are currently working to solve it as soon as possible.

If you already have a problem with liquidity than you should clearly state that on your website and not wait for people to discover this themselves, especially since this is supposed to be ''advanced'' mixing method
I don't see any messages showing this and same thing would happen to me now if I proceed with advanced mixing now.
Fair thing in this situation would be to either disable it temporary, or at least warn people they will have to wait longer to receive their coins.

[Mixero]

Hello, we have replied to your email. We are experiencing a liquidity problem for our advanced method, we do not have an exact timeframe for when the problem will be resolved. It should be solved in a few hours. We are currently working to solve it as soon as possible.

If you already have a problem with liquidity than you should clearly state that on your website and not wait for people to discover this themselves, especially since this is supposed to be ''advanced'' mixing method
I don't see any messages showing this and same thing would happen to me now if I proceed with advanced mixing now.
Fair thing in this situation would be to either disable it temporary, or at least warn people they will have to wait longer to receive their coins.

Hello, this is the first time we've had this problem, which was resolved fairly quickly. Everything is now operational. This shouldn't happen again, but if there are any problems with our advanced method an error message will be displayed in the future.

[Mixero]

Design update :

We've updated the design of the invoice page and added more information about mixing. Please let us know what you think.

Future updates :

We're currently working on an API implementation so users will be able to use our service more quickly without having to interact with our UI. It will also be possible to use the API for your own service, with the option of configuring your own fee address and fee percentage.

More information about the API is coming soon.

[Kauyaz]

Future updates :
It will also be possible to use the API for your own service, with the option of configuring your own fee address and fee percentage.

It seems like a very good idea.

Can the two modes Coinjoin and Advanced be implemented through the API? Will it be possible to create a website and implement both modes with the API?

More information about the API is coming soon.

Any estimate of when it will be available? in a few months maybe?

[Mixero]

Future updates :
It will also be possible to use the API for your own service, with the option of configuring your own fee address and fee percentage.

It seems like a very good idea.

Can the two modes Coinjoin and Advanced be implemented through the API? Will it be possible to create a website and implement both modes with the API?

More information about the API is coming soon.

Any estimate of when it will be available? in a few months maybe?

Hello, the API will work for both methods. Using our API you could actually create your website that would work with it. We can't give an exact estimate but it should be ready within the next month.

[FatFork]

@Mixero, I noticed that your old Onion address, "mixerokn7affrf6cf3xdfitwqdqzoz5mejnlwpl2gjbl6n5zvn4xw3ad.onion," isn't working anymore. What's the story behind this?

I've also noticed that there is a link on the clearnet domain to the new onion address, but it strikes me as a bit irresponsible to switch up onion addresses without notifying the community. After all, users save those addresses in their bookmarks for convenience and to stay safe from phishing attacks. It'd be nice to keep the community in the loop, don't you think?

[AB de Royse777]

@Mixero, I noticed that your old Onion address, "mixerokn7affrf6cf3xdfitwqdqzoz5mejnlwpl2gjbl6n5zvn4xw3ad.onion," isn't working anymore. What's the story behind this?

I've also noticed that there is a link on the clearnet domain to the new onion address, but it strikes me as a bit irresponsible to switch up onion addresses without notifying the community. After all, users save those addresses in their bookmarks for convenience and to stay safe from phishing attacks. It'd be nice to keep the community in the loop, don't you think?

As per the discussion with them few months ago, they lost the key of the address so the old onion address is no longer in operation. The signature campaign signature has the correct onion address and their ANN also has been updated with the new onion address. You are advised to use onion address either from signature or from their ANN.

I guess they are not much active in the forum to leave every update unfortunately.

[FatFork]

@Mixero, I noticed that your old Onion address, "mixerokn7affrf6cf3xdfitwqdqzoz5mejnlwpl2gjbl6n5zvn4xw3ad.onion," isn't working anymore. What's the story behind this?

I've also noticed that there is a link on the clearnet domain to the new onion address, but it strikes me as a bit irresponsible to switch up onion addresses without notifying the community. After all, users save those addresses in their bookmarks for convenience and to stay safe from phishing attacks. It'd be nice to keep the community in the loop, don't you think?

As per the discussion with them few months ago, they lost the key of the address so the old onion address is no longer in operation. The signature campaign signature has the correct onion address and their ANN also has been updated with the new onion address. You are advised to use onion address either from signature or from their ANN.

I guess they are not much active in the forum to leave every update unfortunately.

OK, thanks for the info! I will also notify LeGaulois, so that he updates his topic: "2023 List of Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites"

[Synchronice]

An on-chain analysis is not possible because Monero is a privacy-based crypto and it is not possible to track these transactions on the blockchain. All links to the Monero addresses of the exchanges will be broken, as the funds will go through several Monero wallet. Also no correlation can be made with the amount of funds that will be exchanged from Monero to Bitcoin since the funds will be split into random pieces.

Is what your service is trying to provide different from the following scenario:

 - I will create an account in a non KYC CEX/DEX, deposit the bitcoin.
 - Convert Bitcoin to Monero.
 - Send Monero to another platform that does not require KYC, such as KuCoin
 - Convert Monero to Bitcoin.
 - I withdraw bitcoins to my wallet.

Costs will be less than $10.

If so, the platforms may track these currencies because the Monero deposit is suspicious.
In addition, if you receive money from activities such as money laundering, your account may be frozen.

We do not send the Monero to a platform but we generate these wallets. You can do this in an automated way for example with the Monero CLI wallet or in other ways that do not depend on any centralized online service.  

Furthermore there is no way to know if you have received Monero that has been used for laundering since there is no AML test for this crypto possible.

I know this is an old post but your mixing method via using Monero Bridge sounds good. But there is a thing that I don't understand, if you don't send Monero to a platform, how are you making the exchange? As far as I understand, you have pre-generated Monero wallets that are filled, so btc to Monero exchange doesn't happen, right? But you have to do Monero to Bitcoin exchange on an exchange platform, right? But you say this method doesn't depend on any centralized online serivce, so I don't actually understand how you make a BTC > Monero > BTC exchange.

[Mixero]

Hello, let me explain in detail.

We use a decentralized platform to exchange bitcoin into monero. Then the monero is sent to a wallet generated not depending on any centralized platform after that the Monero is exchanged back to bitcoin via this same platform. The fact of using a monero intermediary wallet that doesn't depend on any service ensures greater anonymity and, what's more, monero uses the stealth address principle. Here's a detailed explanation of stealth addresses: https://www.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/stealthaddress.html

We currently have no XMR or BTC pool for the advanced method. Over time, we'll probably integrate a Monero and Bitcoin pool. This means that only one exchange will be made from Monero to Bitcoin. The advantage is that when the user sends funds in BTC, the equivalent amount in Monero will be exchanged directly into Bitcoin. Anonymity would be further strengthened.

[Mate2237]

I just checked the site to see the different futures and how it works and if possible test the site to mix coins. But before I use the site to mix coins I will like to ask some few questions so that my coins will not lose. The 0.0003 additional services fee, is it different added to the main service fee? And the both wit deducted from the service fee at once? And why the additional 0.0003 mode service fee is added to the main service fee. Is it to make the transaction very fast or are they different?  Because before a user send the coins, he has to set the service fee and delay hours.

And I really like to know the function of 0.0003 to the service fee or are they the same? And the service fee is it deducting from the 0.002 mixing amount or I will add extra amount for the service fee? Because as you said, if the amount is less than 0.002 BTC then it becomes a charitable donation. Buy if the person send 0.002 BTC and from the amount you removed your service fee amount and the left over will not be up to 0.002. will the remaining amount be send to the destination address?