Affiliate signature campaign

[Don Pedro Dinero]

What do you think of this?

Blackjack.fun | Affiliate Signature Campaign | v3.0 Launched | Earn Upto 10k USD

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You will be credited $50 in BTC per valid referral who will register under your affiliate link, make a deposit, and wager $300

<...>40% lifetime revenue from your referrals means if your referral lost 100 USD you will get 40 USD
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Most likely scenario 99% of participants will get 0.

Many people are withdrawing their applications. I think they were in a hurry to apply thinking that it was like the rest, and also with pay per referral, without realising that there was no pay per post.

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[AB de Royse777]

Most likely scenario 99% of participants will get 0.

Blackjack already created a brand and it will be interesting to see how this campaign works. I see it a positive experiment. Honestly speaking signature campaigns work best to create brand value than conversion. You will see big brands always advertise and stay in front of you even it seems everyone knows about them. It's the brand awareness that matters always.

For example, if today Chipmixer stops their signature campaign - after a few months you will see people are starting to forget about them. How many of us think of Bitsler when we want to play dice? We always look for the name that is in front of us right at the time we are thinking of the product.

[bittraffic]

That's a different kind of signature campaign. No wonder some are withdrawing.

40% lifetime revenue from your referrals   is a huge offer. A lot of webmasters are actually going to take this opportunity to advertise their own referral link to a network. But this is also going to make them spend with the possibility of loss. Finding and making gamblers going to balckjack.fun would be challenging.

Will blackjack.fun allow participants to go to other casino forums with thier links? This could be a good opportunity for those with accounts on casino forums 

[mk4]

I don't think such a model would work probably unless you're one of the minority that people take extra seriously here and at the same time post a lot. I think the typical signature campaign model works because collectively, the campaign participants can give the project/platform a good amount of visibility. Something something strength in numbers. Individually? Probably not.

[examplens]

This is just a way of advertising, for example, we are now discussing their high referral percentage here as well because of this campaign. Blackjack.fun now have one more thread about them and his affiliate program and nothing more. even without an official campaign, manager etc... any user can create signatures and add their affiliate links, and probably over 90% of all casinos have an affiliate program.
as far as I can see, most users give up on the campaign when they have read the conditions a little better.

[CoinEraser]

What do you think of this?

Without a weekly payment, there won't be many good people involved in the campaign. After all, the risk of earning nothing at all is very high. No income without clicks. And even if you get a referral, they have to wager $300 and that's certainly not a little. After all, there's no minimum number of posts you have to make, and that's good. But I'm convinced that if you paid weekly like other campaigns, you would have better participants. At least that's my opinion on it. 

[NeuroticFish]

As long as there are campaigns with steady pay, only few desperate or too low rank would go for such a campaign.
This kind of advertising may be okay on social media and maybe for very few who start specific topics on gabling, maybe exactly at the casino they're advertising. So unless the user has special (both advertising and gambling) skills, only few lucky ones will get anything, I'm afraid.

And Royse does have a point: there is brand and there is conversion. I feel though that this model unfairly favors too much the casino, by paying only for the conversion.

[imamusma]

Most likely scenario 99% of participants will get 0.

Many people are withdrawing their applications. I think they were in a hurry to apply thinking that it was like the rest, and also with pay per referral, without realising that there was no pay per post.

Indirectly, this scenario will benefit the casino without having to pay for every post from its participants.
The problem is that it would be difficult to expect someone to spend $300 as a valid referral only for you to get paid $50, and I am worried people are much more likely to sign up without an affiliation than sign up through your affiliate link if they don't want you to earn $40 out of their losing $100.

I'm afraid a campaign like this won't be successful in the end to get a lot of participants, but on the part of the casino it's clear they will benefit because whoever will promote the brand in the signature doesn't need paid, as long as it doesn't fulfill the following conditions:

You will be credited $50 in BTC per valid referral who will register under your affiliate link, make a deposit, and wager $300

[DaveF]

Just about every gambling site out there has SOME for of referral link. It's tagged to your account anyway. This just takes it and instead of just putting http://youwillnever.win/?ref=Dave someplace it makes it a nice pretty signature. There are no posting requirements or anything else so I don't see this as a real signature campaign just a nice looking referral campaign that happens to be in your signature.

Not that big a deal IMO. With that.

However, I can see this being open to a bit of abuse unless sujonali1819 keeps a tight control over posts. No min characters no max posts. Can spiral out of control quickly. Remember yobit.....

-Dave

[PX-Z]

In business aspect, this is really a good way to promote the site^{(it's a win-win situation for them)}.

But it is not fair for those who will join. Why? they already made a name on this forum, their previous campaigns requires website registration too, well, a lot did applied and created an account ^{(because of higher pay rate)}.

So as a participant/affiliate, the chance for someone to register using your signature/affiliate link is very low. Besides invites still needs to deposit xxx amount before an affiliate get their reward.
Although it's really unfair to the participants, it's not that bad to do such campaign, but don't expect more people will join.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Tricky!

Good for the company if people register through the affiliate link and deposit. Bad for a participant if no one ever users his affiliate link  
It's like saying, I will only pay you if you advertise and bring in a customer through your referral.

I think it will also encourage shilling around the forum, which is unnecessary according to most members... More like, "Hey, there's this excellent casino, please sign up using the link in my signature"

[RapTarX]

Most likely scenario 99% of participants will get 0.

Does that mean people never click on a signature? I doubt; I have discovered a few casinos from the signature campaign and checked them through clicking the signature.
Well, blackjack is well known to bitcointalk community; they aren't new here. There's little chance of getting click if you take from that perspective. If it was a new casino, chances would be high.

I think it will also encourage shilling around the forum, which is unnecessary according to most members... More like, "Hey, there's this excellent casino, please sign up using the link in my signature"

We have forum users who are still doing this. The rules here in bitcointalk is somewhat strange LOL.

[Solosanz]

I expect only 1-2 from 1000 users will get paid.

The purpose of signature campaign is to make the project visible in this forum and that would interest new people to register the casino but it doesn't must need to click the signature link in order to register the casino. Even though only few users who register with the referral link, it doesn't mean the signature campaign isn't working. But of course the one who change the rules is the casino representative, sooner or later they will know this kind promotion wouldn't working.

[Pmalek]

It's interesting to observe how many people applied thinking this was a standard signature campaign only to cancel their applications later. People really have a problem with reading and understanding some basic pieces of information.

This campaign won't benefit the majority of its participants, but to the casino, it means free advertising. Some of those who do get accepted might try to abuse the referrals and refer themselves. After that, there will be KYC requests with the potential of scam accusations popping up where those who cheated didn't succeed in tricking the casino.

The casino and the campaign manager aren't lying. Everything is clear. Those who join the campaign expecting regular weekly payments can only blame themselves. Still, I wouldn't support this kind of behavior, and I hope the campaign ends as a failure and no one else attempts anything similar in the future.   

[rat03gopoh]

But there is no minimum post requirement and there is no limit to where participants want to promote their link. If so, I think participants can certainly go elsewhere where spam isn't moderated as long as participant's name is written in the spreadsheet and wear signatures.

[ultrloa]

I don't think such a model would work probably unless you're one of the minority that people take extra seriously here and at the same time post a lot. I think the typical signature campaign model works because collectively, the campaign participants can give the project/platform a good amount of visibility. Something something strength in numbers. Individually? Probably not.

Especially if the forum users got used to get weekly payments from campaign so most provably those people who didn't get much on that kind of campaign will provably shift to another one and they think that its more worthy to join on weekly payment camps.

Although this is somehow a good offer but you need to spend a lot of efforts before you can gain.

[coin-investor]

I was one of the participants of their campaign and they have a very long campaign back then so I wonder will these participants get new sign-ups here, unlikely if this is a new casino with good potential then probably they will new sign up, it's free advertising
it's like a CPA where you are on your own and you are left where you want to promote how you promote it as long as you are not violating their terms.

You can post 100 posts here and there's a probability you cannot get signed up even if you do get a sign up you need to complete a requirement to qualify for their rewards, you need to have experience as an affiliate marketer to do this.

[robelneo]

What do you think of this?

Blackjack.fun | Affiliate Signature Campaign | v3.0 Launched | Earn Upto 10k USD

The campaign just pays if

Payouts & Positions:


You will be credited $50 in BTC per valid referral who will register under your affiliate link, make a deposit, and wager $300

<...>40% lifetime revenue from your referrals means if your referral lost 100 USD you will get 40 USD
                                 ]

Most likely scenario 99% of participants will get 0.

Many people are withdrawing their applications. I think they were in a hurry to apply thinking that it was like the rest, and also with pay per referral, without realising that there was no pay per post.

This is the first affiliate campaign signature based on my knowledge, I stand to be corrected this is the spreadsheet for their new round

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c3TqgcXRXY1I22qq-uYAS3SujM7vCtfvQgPmVpsiSf0/

So far 11 participants let's see the number after a week, I don't want to speculate its better to see the result of this campaign in its first two weeks, but if you're one of the participants don't just rely here in Bitcointalk you have the whole gambling community to spread your affiliate link.
It's possible to have 10 sign up and get nothing and one signup and get hundreds of dollars it all depends on the character and action of your referrals.

[stompix]

Most likely scenario 99% of participants will get 0.
Many people are withdrawing their applications. I think they were in a hurry to apply thinking that it was like the rest, and also with pay per referral, without realising that there was no pay per post.
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What do you think of this?

The model is not new and it's quite standard in other industries.
It's normal for a company to pay on the amount it makes, the other type of payments might just make you lose money, I know the adult industry was focusing on a few methods and abandoned them one by one
- PPI, pay per impression, easy to fake, end up paying just for advertising, maybe zero sales from 1 billion instant close of the advent page,
- PPC, pay-per-click, easy to the fake, same stuff you end up paying thousands and no real sign-up and no money spent
- PPS, pay per sale, obviously, you get money for each sale, just like the above:

You will be credited $50 in BTC per valid referral who will register under your affiliate link, make a deposit, and wager $300

but again can be faked, you sign-up with two accounts, you make an arbitrage on a bet, and you get in one account ~$560-580, the other loses, but you still gain 100 from referrals, but it's on a lower scale, and far easier to trace abusers
-revenue share, the guy pays 50$ a month for a subscription you get 10-20% of the sale. Can't be faked, and can't be taken advantage of unless you play with stolen cards, which is really not worth it as the chargeback will show up before you get paid.

I don't get the

40% lifetime revenue from your referrals means if your referral lost 100 USD you will get 40 USD

This is tricky, it's a commission on how much a referral has lost and not the entire deposited sum, then if your referral hits a jackpot and goes on a positive balance with a few hundred thosuands you're done for as the other must lose the same thousands just to ket your balance positive.

Anyhow, not new:
[Primedice] Affiliate Program: Passively earn 10% of house edge
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745779.0

[joniboini]

But there is no minimum post requirement and there is no limit to where participants want to promote their link. If so, I think participants can certainly go elsewhere where spam isn't moderated as long as participant's name is written in the spreadsheet and wear signatures.

Requiring their participant to post would be a bad move since they don't pay per post or weekly like your usual campaign. There is no guarantee that they will get paid either so it is best to let them post anywhere and whenever they want. The income comes from affiliates anyway. I doubt anyone interested in the campaign would just spam every day just because there are no rules about posting.