Bitcoin Forum
May 11, 2024, 01:33:39 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Is this true about Metamask?  (Read 216 times)
KiaKia (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 672
Merit: 388


View Profile WWW
November 24, 2022, 05:50:14 PM
 #1

Is it true that Metamask is not a decentralised wallet? I watch a video right now explaining that Metamask wallet collects data😲 and they use infura which is centralized, even Ip address are collected?

How true is this? If this is true then there is no point using this wallet at all and people who don't know should stay away. Unless someone prove me wrong.
1715434419
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715434419

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715434419
Reply with quote  #2

1715434419
Report to moderator
1715434419
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715434419

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715434419
Reply with quote  #2

1715434419
Report to moderator
1715434419
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715434419

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715434419
Reply with quote  #2

1715434419
Report to moderator
"Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks like Napster, but pure P2P networks like Gnutella and Tor seem to be holding their own." -- Satoshi
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
jackg
Copper Member
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2856
Merit: 3071


https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory


View Profile
November 24, 2022, 05:59:37 PM
Merited by Apocollapse (1), KiaKia (1)
 #2

ALL spv wallets can collect your data, if you're not downloading and managing the blockchain yourself, your addresses are easy for the owner of the server to find.

It's still decentralised though - decentralisation is different from distributed (where only nodes can communicate and connect to the network).

Metamask is also still open source too so anyone can contribute to it.
coupable
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2352
Merit: 757


View Profile
November 24, 2022, 07:06:49 PM
 #3

Is it true that Metamask is not a decentralised wallet? I watch a video right now explaining that Metamask wallet collects data😲 and they use infura which is centralized, even Ip address are collected?

I have read about a similar topic a while ago, where some (but not all) users were surprised that they were unable to carry out their transfers using Metamask on the browser, and it seems that users from certain regions such as Syria and some countries that suffer from international sanctions have been targeted. Users indicated that a malfunction message appears to them every time they want to make a transfer, and this was the first indication that developers have the ability to change settings and set usage limits.
Metamask wallet is considered relatively safe, but it is preferable not to be completely reliable.
JeromeTash
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2142
Merit: 1212


Heisenberg


View Profile
November 24, 2022, 09:15:30 PM
Last edit: May 14, 2023, 03:45:41 PM by JeromeTash
Merited by ABCbits (1), noorman0 (1)
 #4

Is it true that Metamask is not a decentralised wallet?
I think the right word you are looking for here is "Noncustodial wallet"
Decentralized seems like a misplaced term

I watch a video right now explaining that Metamask wallet collects data😲 and they use infura which is centralized, even Ip address are collected?

How true is this? If this is true then there is no point using this wallet at all and people who don't know should stay away. Unless someone prove me wrong.
Of course, they do collected the data. It's no a lie and their privacy policy was also updated 2 days ago

Look here:


https://consensys.net/privacy-policy/

█████████████████████████
██
█████▀▀███████▀▀███████
█████▀░░▄███████▄░░▀█████
██▀░░██████▀░▀████░░▀██
██▀░░▀▀▀████████████░░▀██
██░░█▄████▀▀███▀█████░░██
██░░███▄▄███████▀▀███░░██
██░░█████████████████░░██
██▄░░████▄▄██████▄▄█░░▄██
██▄░░██████▄░░████░░▄██
█████▄░░▀███▌░░▐▀░░▄█████
███████▄▄███████▄▄███████
█████████████████████████
.
.ROOBET 2.0..██████.IIIIIFASTER & SLEEKER.██████.
|

█▄█
▀█▀
████▄▄██████▄▄████
█▄███▀█░░█████░░█▀███▄█
▀█▄▄░▐█████████▌▄▄█▀
██▄▄█████████▄▄████▌
██████▄▄████████
█▀▀████████████████
██████
█████████████
██
█▀▀██████████████
▀▀▀███████████▀▀▀▀
|.
    PLAY NOW    
hd49728
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 2086
Merit: 1028



View Profile WWW
November 25, 2022, 01:33:01 AM
 #5

Is it true that Metamask is not a decentralised wallet? I watch a video right now explaining that Metamask wallet collects data😲 and they use infura which is centralized, even Ip address are collected?
They claim that they don't collect user information and wallet seed. After years of operation, there is no detection or complain from community, users about that but maybe there are things hidden behind their statement. Who knows?

I am sure your IP addresses can be collected easily by Metamask.

They are non custodial wallets and you have access to wallet seeds but you only don't know whether Metamask owns it too.

A good non custodial wallet is an open-source and you can download, verify it and use it offline. Offline means you can create your wallet offline, without Internet connection.

.freebitcoin.       ▄▄▄█▀▀██▄▄▄
   ▄▄██████▄▄█  █▀▀█▄▄
  ███  █▀▀███████▄▄██▀
   ▀▀▀██▄▄█  ████▀▀  ▄██
▄███▄▄  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▄▄██████
██▀▀█████▄     ▄██▀█ ▀▀██
██▄▄███▀▀██   ███▀ ▄▄  ▀█
███████▄▄███ ███▄▄ ▀▀▄  █
██▀▀████████ █████  █▀▄██
 █▄▄████████ █████   ███
  ▀████  ███ ████▄▄███▀
     ▀▀████   ████▀▀
BITCOIN
DICE
EVENT
BETTING
WIN A LAMBO !

.
            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████████▄▄▄▄▄
▄▄▄▄▄██████████████████████████████████▄▄▄▄
▀██████████████████████████████████████████████▄▄▄
▄▄████▄█████▄████████████████████████████▄█████▄████▄▄
▀████████▀▀▀████████████████████████████████▀▀▀██████████▄
  ▀▀▀████▄▄▄███████████████████████████████▄▄▄██████████
       ▀█████▀  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▀█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.PLAY NOW.
Apocollapse
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 966
Merit: 755



View Profile
November 25, 2022, 02:56:58 AM
 #6

Decentralized or non custodial are nothing to do with privacy!

Metamask is non custodial but centralized which mean this wallet give you private key, but they can restrict an account that from Iran, Venezuela and Ukraine [1] they might add more countries in the future.

If you use hardware wallet, you're also expose your privacy since you need to publish your location when you want to bought it.

If you're really care with privacy, you must use decentralized coin, decentralized exchange, mixer and set up your own cold storage.


[1] https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/crypto/metamask-opensea-bars-iran-and-venezuelian-users-after-russias-attack-on-ukraine-7804839/

tech30338
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 546
Merit: 125


Defend Bitcoin and its PoW: bitcoincleanup.com


View Profile WWW
November 25, 2022, 03:13:10 AM
 #7

Is it true that Metamask is not a decentralised wallet? I watch a video right now explaining that Metamask wallet collects data😲 and they use infura which is centralized, even Ip address are collected?

How true is this? If this is true then there is no point using this wallet at all and people who don't know should stay away. Unless someone prove me wrong.
I think what you are saying about collects data is the transactions being process and can be seen in the explorer correct me if I'm wrong, with the ip address if you are familiar with layers of the network this have process and it travels through servers until it reach its destinations and its very important and there is no way to hide it, starting from your local network going outside there is an information being process so its normal, connecting to other networks with alter information that might be dangerous because there are exploits for example in metamask if you want to change network because of a certain coin that needs to be setup that i think you need to double check carefully, and also careful with your metamask wallet, and the key, don't just connect to unknown and new networks just for free coins or airdrops.

witcher_sense
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2338
Merit: 4336

🔐BitcoinMessage.Tools🔑


View Profile WWW
November 25, 2022, 03:45:10 AM
 #8

Is it true that Metamask is not a decentralised wallet? I watch a video right now explaining that Metamask wallet collects data😲 and they use infura which is centralized, even Ip address are collected?

How true is this? If this is true then there is no point using this wallet at all and people who don't know should stay away. Unless someone prove me wrong.
There is no such concept as a decentralized wallet because it is just a code, a piece of software that is being developed by a centralized group of people. If these people stop developing and maintaining Metamask, it is highly unlikely it will continue to exist as a reliable wallet. However, the process of development can be somewhat decentralized because you can organize this process and set the rules about who can make changes and under what conditions they can be made. The problem with Metamask is that it is built for a centralized blockchain, where the number of full nodes is extremely low. Even if your wallet is non-custodial and is being developed in a decentralized manner, you still rely on data provided by centralized entities. Given that these centralized services are the only source of information that makes your wallet work, it is in their power to tell you what to do, which transactions to block, and what data to collect.

█▀▀▀











█▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
e
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
█████████████
████████████▄███
██▐███████▄█████▀
█████████▄████▀
███▐████▄███▀
████▐██████▀
█████▀█████
███████████▄
████████████▄
██▄█████▀█████▄
▄█████████▀█████▀
███████████▀██▀
████▀█████████
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
c.h.
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀█











▄▄▄█
▄██████▄▄▄
█████████████▄▄
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███░░█████████
███▌▐█████████
█████████████
███████████▀
██████████▀
████████▀
▀██▀▀
Sarah Azhari
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 868
Merit: 739


View Profile
November 25, 2022, 04:42:44 AM
 #9

Is it true that Metamask is not a decentralised wallet? I watch a video right now explaining that Metamask wallet collects data😲 and they use infura which is centralized, even Ip address are collected?

How true is this? If this is true then there is no point using this wallet at all and people who don't know should stay away. Unless someone prove me wrong.
If you worry about the IP address, why you don't install metamask through TOR as the extension (use firefox add-ons)?
But, that makes you a bit busy because TOR will delete all cookies and cache after you closed. Then when you want to open Tor and Metamask again, you must insert the mnemonic seed again, just simply like that.
albon
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1694
Merit: 1384



View Profile
November 26, 2022, 06:04:24 PM
 #10

Is it true that Metamask is not a decentralised wallet? I watch a video right now explaining that Metamask wallet collects data😲 and they use infura which is centralized, even Ip address are collected?

How true is this? If this is true then there is no point using this wallet at all and people who don't know should stay away. Unless someone prove me wrong.
Yes, this is true, as MetaMask will collect the IP addresses and the addresses of the wallets when making transfers via the default RPC on the wallet, and the RPC data is the data that you enter when adding a new blockchain network to the MetaMask. Frankly, this contradicts the nature of decentralized wallets that give users high privacy. In my opinion, after collecting this data, it will be easy to reveal the identity of the users, especially if they are users from European countries because they use the static IP, so the solution is to use a VPN to change the IP and use RPC information from a third party that does not collect this data and replaces the default Ethereum blockchain information on the MetaMask wallet.

█████████████████████████
██
█████▀▀███████▀▀███████
█████▀░░▄███████▄░░▀█████
██▀░░██████▀░▀████░░▀██
██▀░░▀▀▀████████████░░▀██
██░░█▄████▀▀███▀█████░░██
██░░███▄▄███████▀▀███░░██
██░░█████████████████░░██
██▄░░████▄▄██████▄▄█░░▄██
██▄░░██████▄░░████░░▄██
█████▄░░▀███▌░░▐▀░░▄█████
███████▄▄███████▄▄███████
█████████████████████████
.
.ROOBET 2.0..██████.IIIIIFASTER & SLEEKER.██████.
|

█▄█
▀█▀
████▄▄██████▄▄████
█▄███▀█░░█████░░█▀███▄█
▀█▄▄░▐█████████▌▄▄█▀
██▄▄█████████▄▄████▌
██████▄▄████████
█▀▀████████████████
██████
█████████████
██
█▀▀██████████████
▀▀▀███████████▀▀▀▀
|.
    PLAY NOW    
Jawhead999
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1652
Merit: 1158



View Profile
November 27, 2022, 04:16:43 AM
 #11

Yes, this is true, as MetaMask will collect the IP addresses and the addresses of the wallets when making transfers via the default RPC on the wallet, and the RPC data is the data that you enter when adding a new blockchain network to the MetaMask. Frankly, this contradicts the nature of decentralized wallets that give users high privacy. In my opinion, after collecting this data, it will be easy to reveal the identity of the users, especially if they are users from European countries because they use the static IP, so the solution is to use a VPN to change the IP and use RPC information from a third party that does not collect this data and replaces the default Ethereum blockchain information on the MetaMask wallet.
Come on, above user already corrected the wrong word, it's non custodial wallet not decentralized wallet.

Non custodial doesn't mean it's offer high privacy, it just offer you a high security since you're the only one who own the private key except you're revealing it to anyone. They don't have anything to do with privacy, it's just up to the wallet that want to offer privacy or not.

If you think VPN will solve this issue than you're wrong, VPN will give you a low privacy and as long as you're still connect your wallet to central server (not run in full node, although it's impossible in ETH or BNB) your privacy can still leaked.

.freebitcoin.       ▄▄▄█▀▀██▄▄▄
   ▄▄██████▄▄█  █▀▀█▄▄
  ███  █▀▀███████▄▄██▀
   ▀▀▀██▄▄█  ████▀▀  ▄██
▄███▄▄  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▄▄██████
██▀▀█████▄     ▄██▀█ ▀▀██
██▄▄███▀▀██   ███▀ ▄▄  ▀█
███████▄▄███ ███▄▄ ▀▀▄  █
██▀▀████████ █████  █▀▄██
 █▄▄████████ █████   ███
  ▀████  ███ ████▄▄███▀
     ▀▀████   ████▀▀
BITCOIN
DICE
EVENT
BETTING
WIN A LAMBO !

.
            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████████▄▄▄▄▄
▄▄▄▄▄██████████████████████████████████▄▄▄▄
▀██████████████████████████████████████████████▄▄▄
▄▄████▄█████▄████████████████████████████▄█████▄████▄▄
▀████████▀▀▀████████████████████████████████▀▀▀██████████▄
  ▀▀▀████▄▄▄███████████████████████████████▄▄▄██████████
       ▀█████▀  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▀█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.PLAY NOW.
vv181
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1932
Merit: 1273


View Profile
November 27, 2022, 11:40:50 AM
 #12

Infura logging IP an address seems blowup news, it is ironic that most people didn't realize what is the capability of an SPV wallet, especially when combined with their own RPC. Where are the people when they ban or censor users within a specific country, didn't they think somehow they already had those capabilities way long ago?

IMO, the main problem of ETH is that ecosystem didn't think thoroughly about the consequence of centralization, this causes, and also makes most users won't bother running their own node. If someone did not want their privacy taken up, they must use their own controlled nodes or RPC to connect to the network. Even if you choose another third-party RPC, there isn't any assurance they won't secretly log an IP.
Findingnemo
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2324
Merit: 760


Bitcoin = Financial freedom


View Profile
November 27, 2022, 12:13:55 PM
 #13

Is it true that Metamask is not a decentralised wallet? I watch a video right now explaining that Metamask wallet collects data😲 and they use infura which is centralized, even Ip address are collected?

How true is this? If this is true then there is no point using this wallet at all and people who don't know should stay away. Unless someone prove me wrong.
Metamask don't save your private keys but they know the address but still its available for anyone to see the transaction details on the blockchain explorers and I don't remember we need to enter any of our personal details to create metamask wallet so the data isn't that sensitive even if they share for their benefits...

However decentralized doesn't really mean completely anonymous, if you're looking for complete privacy then you need to use the privacy coins instead of ethereum.

███████████████████████████
███████▄████████████▄██████
████████▄████████▄████████
███▀█████▀▄███▄▀█████▀███
█████▀█▀▄██▀▀▀██▄▀█▀█████
███████▄███████████▄███████
███████████████████████████
███████▀███████████▀███████
████▄██▄▀██▄▄▄██▀▄██▄████
████▄████▄▀███▀▄████▄████
██▄███▀▀█▀██████▀█▀███▄███
██▀█▀████████████████▀█▀███
███████████████████████████
.
.Duelbits.
..........UNLEASH..........
THE ULTIMATE
GAMING EXPERIENCE
DUELBITS
FANTASY
SPORTS
████▄▄█████▄▄
░▄████
███████████▄
▐███
███████████████▄
███
████████████████
███
████████████████▌
███
██████████████████
████████████████▀▀▀
███████████████▌
███████████████▌
████████████████
████████████████
████████████████
████▀▀███████▀▀
.
▬▬
VS
▬▬
████▄▄▄█████▄▄▄
░▄████████████████▄
▐██████████████████▄
████████████████████
████████████████████▌
█████████████████████
███████████████████
███████████████▌
███████████████▌
████████████████
████████████████
████████████████
████▀▀███████▀▀
/// PLAY FOR  FREE  ///
WIN FOR REAL
..PLAY NOW..
View ArchiveReport to moderator
JeromeTash
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2142
Merit: 1212


Heisenberg


View Profile
December 11, 2022, 08:50:53 PM
Last edit: May 14, 2023, 03:44:31 PM by JeromeTash
 #14

So what is mesmerizing is that metamask still has that assuring message on the landing page as one is trying to get started with the wallet stating that they will never collect any data including the IP addresses with is false [ chrome-extension://nkbihfbeogaeaoehlefnkodbefgpgknn/home.html#initialize/metametrics-opt-in ]. I think they should categorically edit or modify that part. It will definintely be very misleading to noobs.


█████████████████████████
██
█████▀▀███████▀▀███████
█████▀░░▄███████▄░░▀█████
██▀░░██████▀░▀████░░▀██
██▀░░▀▀▀████████████░░▀██
██░░█▄████▀▀███▀█████░░██
██░░███▄▄███████▀▀███░░██
██░░█████████████████░░██
██▄░░████▄▄██████▄▄█░░▄██
██▄░░██████▄░░████░░▄██
█████▄░░▀███▌░░▐▀░░▄█████
███████▄▄███████▄▄███████
█████████████████████████
.
.ROOBET 2.0..██████.IIIIIFASTER & SLEEKER.██████.
|

█▄█
▀█▀
████▄▄██████▄▄████
█▄███▀█░░█████░░█▀███▄█
▀█▄▄░▐█████████▌▄▄█▀
██▄▄█████████▄▄████▌
██████▄▄████████
█▀▀████████████████
██████
█████████████
██
█▀▀██████████████
▀▀▀███████████▀▀▀▀
|.
    PLAY NOW    
Tabani Pierson
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 68
Merit: 0


View Profile
March 22, 2023, 04:26:40 AM
 #15

While it's true that Metamask collects some data and uses centralized services like Infura, it's still a decentralized wallet that allows you to control your own private keys.

Whether or not you decide to use Metamask ultimately depends on your own preferences and risk tolerance. If you're uncomfortable with the level of centralization involved, there are other decentralized wallet options available that may better suit your needs.
Pezroly
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 67
Merit: 8


View Profile
March 22, 2023, 10:11:32 PM
 #16

Metamask is decentralised wallet and can collect your IP, when you open it with password. MetaMask Privacy Policy - https://consensys.net/privacy-policy/ says that they collect IP with ETH transfers, if you use their ETH node, but not collecting IP with your own ETH node. So probably if you use also another network, like BNB Smart Chain, MetaMask wallet will not collect any information.
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!