Increase in cost of running the family

[len01]

This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.

actually it doesn't matter if you add any number of children if it's already your responsibility to build a family.
your friend should not have to complain about it all. because if someone has the intention to build a household, they will know everything that must be done, such as raising children, etc. and your friend should think how to continue to be able to earn money to raise his family to survive, it would be better than complaining about the new child

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[harapan]

https://www.gapminder.org/topics/babies-per-woman/

so you're saying that, mostly without electricity, washing machine, refrigerator, diapers, car, internet, advanced farm tools and other inventions of the last 200 years, women gave birth to 6 children (on average!) and now it's impossible to raise second child? nah. People are just lazy nawadays or are focused too much to get new iphone, clothes with good brands, netflix, tiktok, youtube,  etc.

The less money a family has, the more children are born. Its a well known fact. You just have to focus on building instead of complaining.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate

I'll have to disagree with part of your first paragraph. Despite the technological advancement of this era it is more difficult to raise a child in this time. During the old days the cost of raising a child was lesser than today. A child might not need a formal education in those times. Most of the population grow what they eat. You don't have to pay the amount of bills we pay today. Utility bills like electricity, gas, water,  streaming channels, Tv, Phone bills etc where not really there.

Taking care of yourself alone right now is difficult let alone two children. Yea I agree that some are lazy and not ready to work but you can't generalize like that.

[Doan9269]

This is also one of the impact of the inflation we are having and high level of poverty increasing daily, the family is in a big time finding it difficult especially in meeting up with the family needs, i also blame some family for relenting only on the husband fir sustainability, what if anything tragic happens, they family or both parents were expected to have something doing that could help the family rely in difficult situations whereby things were becoming unaffordable, the other partner will help in assisting to cover that up using out of their own income, it's because things were expensive that makes it difficult for the family to cope with the influence of inflation in running the family needs.

[Tytanowy Janusz]

I'll have to disagree with part of your first paragraph. Despite the technological advancement of this era it is more difficult to raise a child in this time. During the old days the cost of raising a child was lesser than today. A child might not need a formal education in those times. Most of the population grow what they eat. You don't have to pay the amount of bills we pay today. Utility bills like electricity, gas, water,  streaming channels, Tv, Phone bills etc where not really there.

Lets get through your post.
So you are saying that living in 1800 without electricity, car, tap water was easier because you did not have to pay utility bills for those services? Man you can always resign from it, not use it and don't pay it.
So you are saying that living in 1800 was easier because you did not have to pay for netflix and TV?
So you are saying that its impossible to live and raise children without netflix and TV?

Strange logic that is hard to relate to without sarcasm

[DrBeer]

I see that this is reality that the cost of running the family house hold daily, weekly, monthly and yearly has increased. From different people that have complained and including friends, it is getting so much of frustration to taking good care of the family to live fine because inflation and no job. To buy basic need in the house not easy. A friend that have add a new born to his home complaining of buying diaper, provisions for the new child as expensive in addition to the expenses to take care of the other children. The situation of bringing up the family is not easy and I think one way to helping ourselves not to add more financial burden is by reducing the number of children we give birth to. This can help.

This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.

There is such a thing as planning. It concerns both financial planning (income, expenses, loan repayment, etc.) and family planning. There is nothing inadequate here, but family planning is also an important point. If a friend decides to have a child / another child, he must understand that a child is both time consuming and possible difficulties (wife's pregnancy, childbirth, medicine, diapers, food, ....) as well as additional costs. No, you can, of course, lie down and not think about the fate of your children, and there are such people. But it doesn't make sense...

[AicecreaME]

It is important to have family planning because the Government doesn't care for it's people. Continuous price hike for all the goods we need in everyday lives while our salary doesn't even change, that's why we are struggling for our everyday living, not all of us have a decent job that pays well. So yeah, don't make another child of don't make your own family if you're already struggling feeding yourself and giving yourself what it needs.

Don't take other people to share with your struggles in life, especially a child that most of us treat like a retirement plan or an investment.

[BigBos]

This is also one of the impact of the inflation we are having and high level of poverty increasing daily, the family is in a big time finding it difficult especially in meeting up with the family needs, i also blame some family for relenting only on the husband fir sustainability, what if anything tragic happens, they family or both parents were expected to have something doing that could help the family rely in difficult situations whereby things were becoming unaffordable, the other partner will help in assisting to cover that up using out of their own income, it's because things were expensive that makes it difficult for the family to cope with the influence of inflation in running the family needs.

Yes, broadly speaking, talking about price increases is the impact of abnormal inflation so spending increases significantly even though they only make the same purchases as the days before inflation occurred.
The unpreparedness of every family, especially those at the middle to lower level, with the very high rising prices of various daily needs and stagnant income, so that they experience difficulties in meeting their needs.

I see that this is reality that the cost of running the family house hold daily, weekly, monthly and yearly has increased. From different people that have complained and including friends, it is getting so much of frustration to taking good care of the family to live fine because inflation and no job. To buy basic need in the house not easy. A friend that have add a new born to his home complaining of buying diaper, provisions for the new child as expensive in addition to the expenses to take care of the other children. The situation of bringing up the family is not easy and I think one way to helping ourselves not to add more financial burden is by reducing the number of children we give birth to. This can help.

This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.

There is such a thing as planning. It concerns both financial planning (income, expenses, loan repayment, etc.) and family planning. There is nothing inadequate here, but family planning is also an important point. If a friend decides to have a child / another child, he must understand that a child is both time consuming and possible difficulties (wife's pregnancy, childbirth, medicine, diapers, food, ....) as well as additional costs. No, you can, of course, lie down and not think about the fate of your children, and there are such people. But it doesn't make sense...

All of this is again correlated with the level of education or knowledge in every level of society, government policies in the economic field, and employment income, which are supporting factors in meeting family needs. We have to be farsighted if we want to live as a family as you say (any form of financing to take care of children & more) in the future.
A disaster family is very important for a family to run, but even a family that already has a financial plan will find it difficult to deal with high price increases like now.

[glendall]

not patronizing,
here when we want to have children, before that we have to know the limits of our ability to finance them up to the highest education implemented by the government such as high school , if in my country, if we have a mediocre income we should follow the government's recommendations so that we don't find it difficult to meet his needs,
stop complaining if a child has been born, continue to be eager to earn income so that our children can be more than us and at least one day our children can raise our degree when we are old

[Findingnemo]

I see that this is reality that the cost of running the family house hold daily, weekly, monthly and yearly has increased. From different people that have complained and including friends, it is getting so much of frustration to taking good care of the family to live fine because inflation and no job. To buy basic need in the house not easy. A friend that have add a new born to his home complaining of buying diaper, provisions for the new child as expensive in addition to the expenses to take care of the other children. The situation of bringing up the family is not easy and I think one way to helping ourselves not to add more financial burden is by reducing the number of children we give birth to. This can help.

This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.

For the fact in 2020 and later the rate of pregnancy increased all over the world and we all know the reason for that.

Ofcourse family is also a liability from financial perspective so one who add liability should ensure the source of cash inflow before making the commitment. And birth control is already in practice so having one or two even not going to reduce the burden unless we upgrade ourselves in the financial status.

Cost of everything increased post COVID-19 and many people lost their jobs due to lay off from companies, small business owners can't able to pay their workers due to not enough business which all made the things as worst case.

Atleast this has to be a lesson for everyone why it is important to save and investment as early as possible.

[Yatsan]

Well, we just cannot really stop the inflation rate; an economy can just slow it down or reduce it. The problem arise because minimum wage cannot cope up with daily expenses which yields to poverty. Who's at fault? Government and families. I'd say governments because they are the ones making regulations to cope up with the situation. Families on the other hand could also be at fault if they won't manage the family itself;family planning and daily expenses wherein adjustments should be made.

not patronizing,
here when we want to have children, before that we have to know the limits of our ability to finance them up to the highest education implemented by the government such as high school , if in my country, if we have a mediocre income we should follow the government's recommendations so that we don't find it difficult to meet his needs,
stop complaining if a child has been born, continue to be eager to earn income so that our children can be more than us and at least one day our children can raise our degree when we are old

Major problem is family related factors. Same with my country wherein people are complaining about shortage of financial resources but they are the ones who made a big family to feed. It has something to do as well on sense of responsibility.

[redsun114]

A family is not a business that you will run but raising must be the appropriate term for this imo however it's true that the cost of living now have increased and that is due to the increasing rates of the inflation. There is no point of complaining because inflations are only normal but it's our problem on why we decided to create a family of our own when we know that our life yet is not good enough. We might be lacking of savings and our job only pays us less.

There's even people who blame the government for this lol. Condoms and contraceptive pills/products are much cheaper than the diaper and milk. People shouldn't be shy of availing that if they can't fight the urge of making love to their partners.

[lizarder]

Honestly, I don't agree with the OP's view, the reason for reducing children is due to the uncertain economic impact. Inflation has occurred since we were not born, but our parents were able to get through it. In life we must have targets, for example setting up a business to support life after marriage, complaining because there are many children is a regrettable step, because almost many people after marriage do not have children, there are many ways to live life, if you are diligent and persistent in working hard.

Don't let fear be an excuse for not wanting to try, because basically there are many paths to success. You have to have dreams, work smart, be disciplined and don't forget to read opportunities. Maintain this consistency, then you will get out of all problems.

[livingfree]

Family planning is a must and I think this generation is more aware of it and there are many welfares that have been helping those unaware of how to plan to start with their families.

Using birth controls and pills is a way to lessen the sudden and unexpected pregnancy of a couple.

Because when you have your own family, you have to prioritize it and it's really going to add more expenses not just for your child but also to your wife/husband.

Right. Expect that even if you have a well compensated job, you will always encounter times of losing your budget because of sudden needs of your family especially if your kids are already sent to schools. So probably, if we can have a good family planning, we can always avoid circumstances that will make suffer our children. It’s not bad to raise numerous kids, but make sure you have a good and sustainable income to provide their needs and wants.

True.

Parents understand having in this situation. You'll have to budget everything but at the same time, budgeting is mostly not followed. By starting a family, you need to be well prepared.

Not just financially but also through emotionally and spiritually. Because you'll come into many realization when you're already there and it's a bond that you'll have to agree forever.

But anyway, some may justify that it can't last forever and you can just file for divorce but the point is about having a kid.

[Russlenat]

I see that this is reality that the cost of running the family house hold daily, weekly, monthly and yearly has increased. From different people that have complained and including friends, it is getting so much of frustration to taking good care of the family to live fine because inflation and no job. To buy basic need in the house not easy. A friend that have add a new born to his home complaining of buying diaper, provisions for the new child as expensive in addition to the expenses to take care of the other children. The situation of bringing up the family is not easy and I think one way to helping ourselves not to add more financial burden is by reducing the number of children we give birth to. This can help.

This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.

Since all the basic commodities prices are consistently increasing, then it’s better to stick to family planning and limit the child we have so that we can always cater to their needs and not deprive them due to poverty. Just take a look at the royal family, they only prefer 2-3 children and give everything they need, unlike those parents who are struggling and yet chose to raise a lot of children and end up begging for foods from other people.

[serjent05]

I think the world has evolved to the point where we have things like birth control pills or families engage in family planning. All these are to help one cope with the economic and financial straits one is plagued with.
Personally, it's not advisable to take on more than you can handle and it's not seen as laziness either if one tend to limit the number of children they are having.

Family planning is a must and I think this generation is more aware of it and there are many welfares that have been helping those unaware of how to plan to start with their families.

Family planning had been promoted everywhere but people seem to not follow it.  Despite of poverty, poor families keep on making new babies as if they have the money to sustain a huge family.  I do not know what is the problem with the government plan for family planning but it looks like it isn't effective in controlling couples to make babies.

Using birth controls and pills is a way to lessen the sudden and unexpected pregnancy of a couple.

Because when you have your own family, you have to prioritize it and it's really going to add more expenses not just for your child but also to your wife/husband.

That should be the thing but somehow poor family is unable to provide themselves these contraceptives.  Although I think some of these is available in health centers for free, they are ashamed to ask for them. 

I agree that parents should plan the number of kids according to their financial capability but many uneducated couples just do it without thinking the possible consquences of their action.  And as a result, many couples end up with kids that is beyond their financial support capability. 

I see that this is reality that the cost of running the family house hold daily, weekly, monthly and yearly has increased. From different people that have complained and including friends, it is getting so much of frustration to taking good care of the family to live fine because inflation and no job. To buy basic need in the house not easy. A friend that have add a new born to his home complaining of buying diaper, provisions for the new child as expensive in addition to the expenses to take care of the other children. The situation of bringing up the family is not easy and I think one way to helping ourselves not to add more financial burden is by reducing the number of children we give birth to. This can help.

This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.

Since all the basic commodities prices are consistently increasing, then it’s better to stick to family planning and limit the child we have so that we can always cater to their needs and not deprive them due to poverty. Just take a look at the royal family, they only prefer 2-3 children and give everything they need, unlike those parents who are struggling and yet chose to raise a lot of children and end up begging for foods from other people.

The problem with these couples who have lots of kids is the insight of what will happen in the future if they are having too many kids.  I believe many couples in the lower class family had attended family planning but failed to follow it because of lack of insight on what will happen in the future.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I wonder when your friend slept with his wife, did he know that children sometimes happen from such an activity? What is the age of a baby? If he still needs diapers, then we can conclude that the child is no more than three years old. Didn't your friend know about birth control three years ago? His conversations that it is difficult and expensive for him to serve his child look very pathetic. This is not a conversation between a man, but a conversation of a crybaby and a lazy person. Once a child has been born, he should not feel like a burden. There are many religious people here who know that if you complain too much, that child can be taken away by the one who gave it. A man must always take on responsibilities and work twice and three times as hard to feed his family.

[Mauser]

The situation of bringing up the family is not easy and I think one way to helping ourselves not to add more financial burden is by reducing the number of children we give birth to. This can help.

While this is one way to try and lower the financial burden on a family, there are also other option for families who want to have more than one child. I noticed this by friends of mine, they are already in their 30s and have their first child while both are working full time. They are always complaining how expensive a child is while it seems that they are not trying to save any money. They are only dressing their kid in fancy designer clothes, everything they buy is new and expensive. The kid is going to a private school where he is already learning English at a young age. Don't get me wrong, it's good for the kid and he will learn a lot from it. But the parents are investing so much money into even sport gear and music instruments where that their son rarely uses. This is the completely opposite to one of my best friends, they have 3 children and rarely buy anything new. They are struggling financially much more but never really complain. I see that their two younger sons always wear the old clothes from their first born. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion and in among other friends is pretty normal to try and help them out whenever possible. Having and raising 3 kids is a lot of work, but you can make it work with help from friends and family.

[Tony116]

It is important to have family planning because the Government doesn't care for it's people. Continuous price hike for all the goods we need in everyday lives while our salary doesn't even change, that's why we are struggling for our everyday living, not all of us have a decent job that pays well. So yeah, don't make another child of don't make your own family if you're already struggling feeding yourself and giving yourself what it needs.

Don't take other people to share with your struggles in life, especially a child that most of us treat like a retirement plan or an investment.

But why drag the government into this, I don't see what they have to do with it. Your salary doesn't increase, you can't blame the government but look at yourself, why do other people get high salaries while we don't? is it because we didn't do a good job? As you say: there should be family planning, only think about having a baby when we are fully able to take care of it, otherwise we have to try harder. If others can do it, we can too, don't always blame the government when we don't try our best.

[EarnOnVictor]

In this present economic situation, one should be proactive and think rather than complain. This might or mightn't linger, yet it's good that we are not comfortable with our present financial status if we can and our family members can't live comfortably with it. What I would advise is for us to get additional means of income. Complaints will solve nothing, this is the reality around the whole world now, inflation is everywhere. We should try to think beyond the circle (offline and online) and things would be already.

[iv4n]

But why drag the government into this, I don't see what they have to do with it. Your salary doesn't increase, you can't blame the government but look at yourself, why do other people get high salaries while we don't? is it because we didn't do a good job?

Well, some governments are simply bad! This is not about the salary someone earns, it's about the children and child allowances if they exist in a certain country:


-Newborn Upfront Paymentlaunch
-Newborn Supplementlaunch
-Parental Leave Paylaunch
-Dad and Partner Paylaunch
-Family Tax Benefitlaunch
-Parenting Paymentlaunch

The government is responsible for this, if having children have become more expensive, perhaps these allowances should be higher as well. It has probably been done in some advanced countries... but not in many others.

As you say: there should be family planning, only think about having a baby when we are fully able to take care of it, otherwise we have to try harder. If others can do it, we can too, don't always blame the government when we don't try our best.

"If you want to make god laugh, just tell him your plans."

And then Corona happens, the story is not even over, and a war has started on the soil of Europe, which also has no end in sight.... we are all affected by these events, some less and some more. You can't plan such things.