[Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez

[Baofeng]

@Boafeng, @bisdak and the other boxing experts in the forum. What would a victory bring for Benavidez? Does this make him the next mandatory challenger vs. Canelo Alvarez? There were some articles that mentioned Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol wants a light heavyweight unification fight vs. Beterbiev. This might be head shaking and it might make it appear that Canelo is afraid to risk his championship status in a fight against Benavidez hehe.

What are your speculations or predictions?

He has the interim belt at WBC, of course the regular belt is with Canelo right now. So it make sense that Canelo should give Plant that chance to fight for the regular WBC belt if he wins. But as Canelo said, he doesn't want to fight another Mexican so we will see how it goes, if Canelo is stubborn and doesn't want to give him that shot or vacate his belt instead. And if that scenario happens then Benavidez should be elevated as the regular champion then.

Bivol options could be (a) fight Canelo at 168 lbs, for all of Canelo's belt, (b) they go at it at 175 lbs, (c) wait for the Beterviev vs Yarde and fight the winner.

So the division is still a mess this early, too many scenario taking shape, so let's wait in March after this fight.

[Dave1]

@Boafeng, @bisdak and the other boxing experts in the forum. What would a victory bring for Benavidez? Does this make him the next mandatory challenger vs. Canelo Alvarez? There were some articles that mentioned Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol wants a light heavyweight unification fight vs. Beterbiev. This might be head shaking and it might make it appear that Canelo is afraid to risk his championship status in a fight against Benavidez hehe.

What are your speculations or predictions?

He has the interim belt at WBC, of course the regular belt is with Canelo right now. So it make sense that Canelo should give Plant that chance to fight for the regular WBC belt if he wins. But as Canelo said, he doesn't want to fight another Mexican so we will see how it goes, if Canelo is stubborn and doesn't want to give him that shot or vacate his belt instead. And if that scenario happens then Benavidez should be elevated as the regular champion then.

Bivol options could be (a) fight Canelo at 168 lbs, for all of Canelo's belt, (b) they go at it at 175 lbs, (c) wait for the Beterviev vs Yarde and fight the winner.

So the division is still a mess this early, too many scenario taking shape, so let's wait in March after this fight.

Yes, but we wanted to see Canelo first testing himself against David Benavidez, I don't buy the reason from him not fighting another Mexican, probably this is just an excuse from him if ever David wins here and then he avoided at all cost.

But the thing is that Canelo is the cash cow and so it's hard for this body to enforce their mandatory to him.

He will have his one way on who he is going to fight next, lucky Ryder if he will be chosen by Canelo as his next potential opponent next because his name is floating around.

[Kemarit]

@Boafeng, @bisdak and the other boxing experts in the forum. What would a victory bring for Benavidez? Does this make him the next mandatory challenger vs. Canelo Alvarez? There were some articles that mentioned Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol wants a light heavyweight unification fight vs. Beterbiev. This might be head shaking and it might make it appear that Canelo is afraid to risk his championship status in a fight against Benavidez hehe.

What are your speculations or predictions?

He has the interim belt at WBC, of course the regular belt is with Canelo right now. So it make sense that Canelo should give Plant that chance to fight for the regular WBC belt if he wins. But as Canelo said, he doesn't want to fight another Mexican so we will see how it goes, if Canelo is stubborn and doesn't want to give him that shot or vacate his belt instead. And if that scenario happens then Benavidez should be elevated as the regular champion then.

Bivol options could be (a) fight Canelo at 168 lbs, for all of Canelo's belt, (b) they go at it at 175 lbs, (c) wait for the Beterviev vs Yarde and fight the winner.

So the division is still a mess this early, too many scenario taking shape, so let's wait in March after this fight.

Yes, but we wanted to see Canelo first testing himself against David Benavidez, I don't buy the reason from him not fighting another Mexican, probably this is just an excuse from him if ever David wins here and then he avoided at all cost.

But the thing is that Canelo is the cash cow and so it's hard for this body to enforce their mandatory to him.

He will have his one way on who he is going to fight next, lucky Ryder if he will be chosen by Canelo as his next potential opponent next because his name is floating around.

Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

[Ziskinberg]

Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.

Well it should be considered series as it is the precious hands, obviously this is what the boxers uses to make money in this sports. So it has been damage already and there is a possibility that it might get hurt again if he lands in a awkward angle.

Just found out though that Canelo started boxing at the age of 15, so if he is 32 years old, then he is boxing half of his life already.

So who knows, he might be old for some boxers, but for sure he can still fight and probably have 2-3 years good in him.

[Russlenat]

Just found out though that Canelo started boxing at the age of 15, so if he is 32 years old, then he is boxing half of his life already.

So who knows, he might be old for some boxers, but for sure he can still fight and probably have 2-3 years good in him.

Most of the successful boxers starts boxing when they are still young, like Mayweather. 2-3 years? I think he still has more years, in fact, he is still dominating now, he only lose when he attempt to move up and challenge a champion, but in his division where he was an undisputed fighter, he is still the king.

[Jawhead999]

Most of the successful boxers starts boxing when they are still young, like Mayweather. 2-3 years? I think he still has more years, in fact, he is still dominating now, he only lose when he attempt to move up and challenge a champion, but in his division where he was an undisputed fighter, he is still the king.

Yeah Canelo has a biggest reputation and popularity in this generation boxing career, he is very phenomenal compare to the other undisputed champion, I think it's because many people and boxing fans are really attracted to watch how Canelo's head movement, it's very satisfying how he can predict his opponent's punch

Anyway what's going on with this fight? there's no news about the official announcement and no improvement yet.

[freedomgo]

Well, I don't know, but apparently Canelo has once again given something to talk about, for his part, I don't even know if Bivol would give him a rematch, if he already went up and sees that it is convenient for him to fight Canelo, he will, otherwise I don't know if he accepts, he what he thinks is that he already beat him, so he has already passed that stage, he would have to have a lot of audience, a lot of demand to be able to fight with him and obviously they give him a lot of money, for his part now well with Benavidez And Caleb still have My doubts, I don't know who I could lean toward, some go squarely with Caleb, but due to everything he has said, there has been speculation, and in some boxing forums it is not clear to me when making a good bet.

Dmitry Bivol has no choice but to fight Canelo Alvarez again in a rematch once the latter will demand for a rematch because their contract has a rematch clause and who knows when will that expire but surely, Canelo still have the perks about the clause because their fight just happened last May 2022. As of now, we just don't know where will they contest the fight if Canelo chose to revive that clause. The winner of Benavidez-Plant might have to wait first because in the past discussion, it seems that Canelo's already fixed with getting the rematch because of course it's also a big payday.

[stadus]

^^ Everyone here is inclined to see Benavidez vs Canelo, it will be a fresh challenge for the cash cow and so it will be interesting how he will deal with the youth of Benavidez and the speed and the power as well (although David is flat footed).

And I'm thinking that if Plant wins here, Canelo will not give him another opportunity.

He might go directly with Bivol again, regardless if the weight is 168-175 lbs. Bivol is more willing to fight Canelo at this point for his legacy.

Yes, because that will be a new sight to see and aside from that, David actually got the upper hand between him and Plant (even if he's a flat footed). David already proved himself that his time has already come to have bite against the champion and Plant is the last hurdle before he can actually face Canelo. But if ever it turns out that Caleb Plant will be the winner here, there will no hype from him to chase Canelo because people are not expecting anything from him anymore. Straight fact, he's already done.

Yes and that's what majority here wanted Benavidez to win against Caleb so that we will not see him against Canelo the second time around. And maybe Canelo will be motivated facing a young challenger in Benavidez for him. It's like turning the tide, now Canelo is the more experience one and some young challenger trying to get his belt. So hopefully all the scenario that we wanted to see will happen, David Benavidez winning with a statement, then Canelo willing to give him the chance.

Canelo ask for this that's why the kid was really dedicated to work his way to face Canelo in the championship rounds, as I remember, David's father asked Canelo to give his son a chance but at that time, Canelo wasn't interested because the kid hasn't proved anything yet. So, this time, if Benavidez defeats Caleb with a bang, maybe Canelo will stand his words and give the kid some priority.

[Baofeng]

There is no official announcement yet of this fight, but the two are still going at it at their social media accounts which lead me to believed that this fight is going to happen. They are talking about the March date, so maybe the 2nd or 3rd week of that month.

However, it can still push thru if they haven't settled down small things like the size of the ring, and weight of the gloves and others. Hopefully we can hear it officially before the end of this month.

[AmoreJaz]

There is no official announcement yet of this fight, but the two are still going at it at their social media accounts which lead me to believed that this fight is going to happen. They are talking about the March date, so maybe the 2nd or 3rd week of that month.

However, it can still push thru if they haven't settled down small things like the size of the ring, and weight of the gloves and others. Hopefully we can hear it officially before the end of this month.

maybe, they are talking so the interest won't die down among boxing fans. they need to earn from this fight so they should make sure there's hype for this match. sometimes the delay is owed to purse split if both camps don't agree with their share. but in any case, if they feel they are ready to rumble, their promoters will publish the date.

[Dave1]

@Boafeng, @bisdak and the other boxing experts in the forum. What would a victory bring for Benavidez? Does this make him the next mandatory challenger vs. Canelo Alvarez? There were some articles that mentioned Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol wants a light heavyweight unification fight vs. Beterbiev. This might be head shaking and it might make it appear that Canelo is afraid to risk his championship status in a fight against Benavidez hehe.

What are your speculations or predictions?

He has the interim belt at WBC, of course the regular belt is with Canelo right now. So it make sense that Canelo should give Plant that chance to fight for the regular WBC belt if he wins. But as Canelo said, he doesn't want to fight another Mexican so we will see how it goes, if Canelo is stubborn and doesn't want to give him that shot or vacate his belt instead. And if that scenario happens then Benavidez should be elevated as the regular champion then.

Bivol options could be (a) fight Canelo at 168 lbs, for all of Canelo's belt, (b) they go at it at 175 lbs, (c) wait for the Beterviev vs Yarde and fight the winner.

So the division is still a mess this early, too many scenario taking shape, so let's wait in March after this fight.

Yes, but we wanted to see Canelo first testing himself against David Benavidez, I don't buy the reason from him not fighting another Mexican, probably this is just an excuse from him if ever David wins here and then he avoided at all cost.

But the thing is that Canelo is the cash cow and so it's hard for this body to enforce their mandatory to him.

He will have his one way on who he is going to fight next, lucky Ryder if he will be chosen by Canelo as his next potential opponent next because his name is floating around.

Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

He is still in his prime, and will not slow down, although he might want to test that hand as it is brittle already or there is a big chance of getting it injured as times goes by. And he still possessed that mentality that he can beat anyone at specially at his most comfortable weight of 168 lbs and that's why he wants to challenge Bivol at this weight and Bivol says that he is ok with it as long as this fight will be for the undisputed belt that Canelo holds.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Most of the successful boxers starts boxing when they are still young, like Mayweather. 2-3 years? I think he still has more years, in fact, he is still dominating now, he only lose when he attempt to move up and challenge a champion, but in his division where he was an undisputed fighter, he is still the king.

Yeah Canelo has a biggest reputation and popularity in this generation boxing career, he is very phenomenal compare to the other undisputed champion, I think it's because many people and boxing fans are really attracted to watch how Canelo's head movement, it's very satisfying how he can predict his opponent's punch

Anyway what's going on with this fight? there's no news about the official announcement and no improvement yet.

Well, this makes me curious because since Canelo made his announcement that he wanted to fight Inoue, and he did it in a way that is not the most correct, because the most ethical way is to wait for his previous fight to end to say something like that, because obviously He implied that he was going to win the previous fight, so the way he did it was not widely seen, but what can we expect? Canelo is like that, nothing can be evaded, if we start to see a possible fight between the two it would be interesting, but what will happen when Inoue beats Canelo well? because that can happen, how would he react? Does he want to ask for a revenge? just as he is doing with Bivol!?

Dmitry Bivol: 2022 was a good year for me but my dream is to be the undisputed champ

WBA light heavyweight titleholder Dmitry Bivol solidified his outstanding 2022 by dominating previously unbeaten Gilberto Ramirez over 12 rounds in November. That title defense came after a similar performance shocked then pound-for-pound king Canelo Alvarez in May. Both wins helped earn Bivol The Ring’s 2022 Fighter of The Year award.

Bivol, The Ring’s No. 1-rated light heavyweight and No. 6 in the pound for pound rankings, was happy with how things went against Ramirez in Abu Dhabi.

Source: https://www.ringtv.com/648620-dmitry-bivol-2022-was-a-good-year-for-me-but-my-dream-is-to-be-the-undisputed-champ/

[Jating]

There is no official announcement yet of this fight, but the two are still going at it at their social media accounts which lead me to believed that this fight is going to happen. They are talking about the March date, so maybe the 2nd or 3rd week of that month.

However, it can still push thru if they haven't settled down small things like the size of the ring, and weight of the gloves and others. Hopefully we can hear it officially before the end of this month.

maybe, they are talking so the interest won't die down among boxing fans. they need to earn from this fight so they should make sure there's hype for this match. sometimes the delay is owed to purse split if both camps don't agree with their share. but in any case, if they feel they are ready to rumble, their promoters will publish the date.

I agree, they really need to sit down and talk about this fight, the hype has been building for years for this two to square in the ring. And then with a spectacular knockout of the year from Caleb Plant.

They need to settle in the middle if those small things are to be settled.

Most probably Caleb Plant is playing mind games with David and his team regarding his request of a bigger size arena so that he can run from David's power punches. But then when the fight happen, Caleb will have a different game plan.

[Japinat]

Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.

I cannot really say that it wasn't that serious because Canelo still had to go surgery just to bring his wrist back to normal, I bet the the doctors were already saying that he needed the surgery after his fight with Bivol because he's already aching at that time and when he fought with GGG afterwards, his wrist has gotten more worse than what he endured during the Bivol fight. Anyway, the good news is Canelo's hand is looking fine and he needed to test the waters first and fight Ryder to see if it's indeed recovered.

[Baofeng]

Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.

I cannot really say that it wasn't that serious because Canelo still had to go surgery just to bring his wrist back to normal, I bet the the doctors were already saying that he needed the surgery after his fight with Bivol because he's already aching at that time and when he fought with GGG afterwards, his wrist has gotten more worse than what he endured during the Bivol fight. Anyway, the good news is Canelo's hand is looking fine and he needed to test the waters first and fight Ryder to see if it's indeed recovered.

This is not the first time though that Canelo's hand has been injured, Alvarez fractured his right thumb during his fight against Liam Smith, but it didn't require any surgery that time, he had to rest it for 6 weeks if I'm not mistaken.

But this time, it was not just the thumb, but it's the wrist that is hurting, and yeah he had this prior to the 3rd installment fight with GGG, so he is suffering from multiple hand injuries throughout the years and say that he couldn't deal with it anymore so the best course of action is to hand his surgically repaired. Reports says that they have removed the cast already and doing rehab now and see the extend, whether he can throw power punches in the mitt without his hands hurting. It was his left hand btw, that powerful left hook.

[btc_angela]

Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.

I cannot really say that it wasn't that serious because Canelo still had to go surgery just to bring his wrist back to normal, I bet the the doctors were already saying that he needed the surgery after his fight with Bivol because he's already aching at that time and when he fought with GGG afterwards, his wrist has gotten more worse than what he endured during the Bivol fight. Anyway, the good news is Canelo's hand is looking fine and he needed to test the waters first and fight Ryder to see if it's indeed recovered.

This is not the first time though that Canelo's hand has been injured, Alvarez fractured his right thumb during his fight against Liam Smith, but it didn't require any surgery that time, he had to rest it for 6 weeks if I'm not mistaken.

But this time, it was not just the thumb, but it's the wrist that is hurting, and yeah he had this prior to the 3rd installment fight with GGG, so he is suffering from multiple hand injuries throughout the years and say that he couldn't deal with it anymore so the best course of action is to hand his surgically repaired. Reports says that they have removed the cast already and doing rehab now and see the extend, whether he can throw power punches in the mitt without his hands hurting. It was his left hand btw, that powerful left hook.

It is has been injured multiple times already, and in the last time he needs to have hit repaired through operations, then it might be really that damaged and so he needs to rehabilitated longer than usual I reckon.

Because it could reoccured anytime even during the fight itself. But if Canelo is a warrior, he will go and fight not the John Ryder that we are have heard he will be facing next.

[yazher]

maybe, they are talking so the interest won't die down among boxing fans. they need to earn from this fight so they should make sure there's hype for this match. sometimes the delay is owed to purse split if both camps don't agree with their share. but in any case, if they feel they are ready to rumble, their promoters will publish the date.

Nowadays, they really need to hyp the fight before even setting a date for their fight. how strange it turns out right now for the boxing industry and this is because of how others make some huge money from boxing and everyone wants to have that kind of fight where they can earn as much as they can because after all, it was their body and their reputation they putting in the table, that's why they want to have everything set before going for a fight. the old days of boxing are over and most likely right now they fight because of money, so they need to make a fuss and get loud so that they will become a trend just before their fight.

[freedomgo]

Dmitry Bivol Backing David Benavidez In Caleb Plant Clash

Even the WBA champion (LHW) Dmitry Bivol is backing the young blood and somehow certain that David will prevail in this fight. Although, Bivol himself admitted that his choice was quite biased because he and David had a bond in the past where they sparred with each other but the thing is, Bivol witnessed what this kid has that made him believe that he can ultimately defeat Caleb Plant.

How about you guys, got any thoughts about this? Anyway, I hope this fight will listed officially and won't be one of the good fights that will not materialize.

[Dave1]

Dmitry Bivol Backing David Benavidez In Caleb Plant Clash

Even the WBA champion (LHW) Dmitry Bivol is backing the young blood and somehow certain that David will prevail in this fight. Although, Bivol himself admitted that his choice was quite biased because he and David had a bond in the past where they sparred with each other but the thing is, Bivol witnessed what this kid has that made him believe that he can ultimately defeat Caleb Plant.

How about you guys, got any thoughts about this? Anyway, I hope this fight will listed officially and won't be one of the good fights that will not materialize.

I guess if we look at the votes, it's David that is the clear favorite for us boxing fans in our community. I mean it's a smart  thing to do, to vote and then bet on the young guy because he has been chasing this kind of fights and wanted to show that he has the tools to become a future champion.

So I believed as well the David will win against Caleb, but it will be a very hard fight for his young career and he will be tested here.