Russian Local

[vasyaebanvrot]

The military aggression of the Russian Federation against the independence of Ukraine continues for the ninth month. Why am I a resident of Ukraine, entering the branch of the Russian locale, should see the topic "politics"? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=91.0
In which the Russians are openly promoting their war, calling for the destruction of my country and my people? Why is the Russian locale run by two Russian Nazis xandry and Xal0lex? Supporting and not deleting the posts of Russian assassins? And they delete the posts of those who support the Ukrainians. I remind you that this forum is the Western world. And he must support the sanctions that the whole world has imposed against Russia.
I demand from the administration of this forum to remove the topic "politics" from the Russian locale https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=91.0 which offends my feelings, and the feelings of the citizens of my country Ukraine. Who are suffering right now from the war that the Russians started. If the administration of the forum does not comply with my requirement. I will apply to all supervisory authorities of the EU and the US to hold the administration of this forum accountable. I sincerely hope that the administration will meet the needs of the entire Ukrainian community of this forum and fulfill our demands.
Sorry for my English.

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[LoyceV]

I demand from the administration of this forum to remove the topic ~ which offends my feelings

I can't read Russian, so I don't know whether or not your claims are accurate, but "being offended" is not a reason to delete anything. You should read Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ, and if any forum rules are broken, you can report the posts to moderators (and discuss it here in Meta if you disagree with the Mod's decission).

If the administration of the forum does not comply with my requirement. I will apply to all supervisory authorities of the EU

See:

I intend to ignore all stupidity coming out of the EUSSR.

EU has no power over Bitcointalk.

and the US to hold the administration of this forum accountable.

See:

Bitcointalk.org aims to enable as much freedom for its users as is legally possible. We will not remove content just because it annoys you. In particular, under section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, bitcointalk.org cannot be held responsible for defamation by users, even if notified that possible defamation exists.

I sincerely hope that the administration will meet the needs of the entire Ukrainian community of this forum and fulfill our demands.

I disagree. First, the Ukrainian people have other worries than what's posted online by people who's opinion they don't value. But more importantly: the freedoms offered by Bitcointalk are very rare on the internet, and I highly appreciate them. Even if I completely disagree with what's being said.

As they say: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

I feel like I should add a disclaimer: my opinion on freedom of speech doesn't mean I agree with what's being said, and I feel for the Ukrainian people who didn't deserve this at all.

[vasyaebanvrot]

I demand from the administration of this forum to remove the topic ~ which offends my feelings

I can't read Russian, so I don't know whether or not your claims are accurate, but "being offended" is not a reason to delete anything. You should read Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ, and if any forum rules are broken, you can report the posts to moderators (and discuss it here in Meta if you disagree with the Mod's decission).

If the administration of the forum does not comply with my requirement. I will apply to all supervisory authorities of the EU

See:

I intend to ignore all stupidity coming out of the EUSSR.

EU has no power over Bitcointalk.

and the US to hold the administration of this forum accountable.

See:

Bitcointalk.org aims to enable as much freedom for its users as is legally possible. We will not remove content just because it annoys you. In particular, under section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, bitcointalk.org cannot be held responsible for defamation by users, even if notified that possible defamation exists.

I sincerely hope that the administration will meet the needs of the entire Ukrainian community of this forum and fulfill our demands.

I disagree. First, the Ukrainian people have other worries than what's posted online by people who's opinion they don't value. But more importantly: the freedoms offered by Bitcointalk are very rare on the internet, and I highly appreciate them. Even if I completely disagree with what's being said.

As they say: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

I feel like I should add a disclaimer: my opinion on freedom of speech doesn't mean I agree with what's being said, and I feel for the Ukrainian people who didn't deserve this at all.

when you come to your house, and you see a smoking pile of garbage from an exploding shell in the place of your house, you can stick your "freedom" up your ass
I will do everything to attract all your criminal forum, which encourages the killing of civilians sons of bitches!!!

[Poker Player]

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

It's funny what you say because there are quite a few on this forum who approve of the censorship that goes on in social media.

I know I have been able to say things on this forum that would have been censored on social media. On Twitter before Musk came in I would have been banned for sure.

Good thing we have someone in charge who respects freedom of speech. Those who don't respect it are usually for opinion contrary to their own, but theirs they don't want censored.

As for the topic of the Russian forum, I don't know Russian either and I'm not going to get involved by using a translator, but I think that everything that is not death threats from one forum member to another or things like that will come to nothing because of the forum policy that we are discussing.

What I do understand that theymos should somehow make sure is that only posts from one side are not censored. That is, see if it is true that pro-Russian or pro-war opinions are not censored and those supporting Ukraine are. I don't know exactly how the situation is on that board, but if the two moderators are from one side, there should be at least one moderator from the other. Or better just one of each.

when you come to your house, and you see a smoking pile of garbage from an exploding shell in the place of your house, you can stick your chest up your ass

Having that attitude with someone who is trying to be constructive with what you are commenting on is not going to help you.

[vasyaebanvrot]

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

It's funny what you say because there are quite a few on this forum who approve of the censorship that goes on in social media.

I know I have been able to say things on this forum that would have been censored on social media. On Twitter before Musk came in I would have been banned for sure.

Good thing we have someone in charge who respects freedom of speech. Those who don't respect it are usually for opinion contrary to their own, but theirs they don't want censored.

As for the topic of the Russian forum, I don't know Russian either and I'm not going to get involved by using a translator, but I think that everything that is not death threats from one forum member to another or things like that will come to nothing because of the forum policy that we are discussing.

What I do understand that theymos should somehow make sure is that only posts from one side are not censored. That is, see if it is true that pro-Russian or pro-war opinions are not censored and those supporting Ukraine are. I don't know exactly how the situation is on that board, but if the two moderators are from one side, there should be at least one moderator from the other. Or better just one of each.

when you come to your house, and you see a smoking pile of garbage from an exploding shell in the place of your house, you can stick your chest up your ass

Having that attitude with someone who is trying to be constructive with what you are commenting on is not going to help you.

Last week, the EU recognized Russia as a sponsor of terrorism. if this forum does not support my demands, then this forum supports terrorists!

[LoyceV]

when you come to your house, and you see a smoking pile of garbage from an exploding shell in the place of your house, you can stick your "freedom" up your ass
I will do everything to attract all your criminal forum, which encourages the killing of civilians sons of bitches!!!

I don't think you understand what "freedom of speech" means. Being rude is allowed too, up to you, but it won't help you reach your goal. If you think you can address the EU or US administration in the way you talk to me, you're going to be disappointed.
How did you go from "I'm offended" to plain being rude and agressive in one post?

It's funny what you say because there are quite a few on this forum who approve of the censorship that goes on in social media.

There's a reason I use Bitcointalk, and not "social" media.

What I do understand that theymos should somehow make sure is that only posts from one side are not censored. That is, see if it is true that pro-Russian or pro-war opinions are not censored and those supporting Ukraine are.

Agreed. That's why I pointed towards the forum rules, and if OP disagrees with Mods on the (lack of) action on certain posts, he should show some examples.

if the two moderators are from one side, there should be at least one moderator from the other. Or better just one of each.

I don't think the "side" matters, but if either one of them is biased, they shouldn't be a Mod.

Last week, the EU recognized Russia as a sponsor of terrorism.

Are you saying the Russian state is posting on Bitcointalk?

I just ran the negative feedback you left through Google Translate. I'd say that's Trust abuse, please read my Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system.

[vasyaebanvrot]

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Last week, the EU recognized Russia as a sponsor of terrorism.

Are you saying the Russian state is posting on Bitcointalk?


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not the Russian state, but the citizens of Russia who support military aggression against Ukraine. and therefore also supporting terrorism

[bittraffic]

Last week, the EU recognized Russia as a sponsor of terrorism.

Are you saying the Russian state is posting on Bitcointalk?

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not the Russian state, but the citizens of Russia who support military aggression against Ukraine. and therefore also supporting terrorism
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There is also a thread We are the people of Ukraine https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5392838.0
You also have some freedom in this thread to say anything. Supporting Zelensky would sound normal to you also and it's your freedom so don't hold back.

In fact, posting on Politics & Society will get more attention than local boards.

[suchmoon]

Why is the Russian locale run by two Russian Nazis xandry and Xal0lex?

That's funny because the pro-Kremlin ura-patriot korner (AKA many other alts) thinks that xandry is pro-Ukrainian:

I have prepared I list of candidates as a moderators (I think they can be trusted):
[...]
New Ukrainian Board: xandry, KTChampions

I sincerely hope that the administration will meet the needs of the entire Ukrainian community of this forum and fulfill our demands.

There are plenty of Ukrainian forums and other places to participate without being bothered by kremlinists so you should do that instead of "demanding" here. Don't visit the boards that you don't like, don't read the threads that you don't like, just like you don't go do RIA or TASS websites to get news. Don't use Bitcointalk at all if you don't like its rules.

Having said that, if there are indeed death threats (not just something that offends your feelings), report those posts to moderators as such posts are against the rules. If you did and they didn't act, post examples here.

[vasyaebanvrot]

There are plenty of Ukrainian forums and other places to participate without being bothered by kremlinists so you should do that instead of "demanding" here. Don't visit the boards that you don't like, don't read the threads that you don't like, just like you don't go do RIA or TASS websites to get news. Don't use Bitcointalk at all if you don't like its rules.

maybe you still want me to change my place of residence because the Russian Nazis every day fire rockets at peaceful cities, and this can be deadly? what can we talk about if none of you understand how to live if the next day can be the last?

[suchmoon]

maybe you still want me to change my place of residence because the Russian Nazis every day fire rockets at peaceful cities, and this can be deadly? what can we talk about if none of you understand how to live if the next day can be the last?

You're not helping your case with false equivalence and other fallacies. Bitcointalk is a site that you share with many other users, who are not firing rockets at you, so your anger here is misplaced.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

maybe you still want me to change my place of residence because the Russian Nazis every day fire rockets at peaceful cities, and this can be deadly? what can we talk about if none of you understand how to live if the next day can be the last?

Have your politics out from the forum. If you have anything to contribute to the Bitcoin ecosystem then do or fuck off.

If you did and they didn't act, post examples here.

Are you expecting anything better from a troll? Whoever he is, he does not have any good intention. He is here messing around. I am 100% sure he does not go along with the local mods so he came here crying and using an issue he think everyone will buy.

[suchmoon]

Have your politics out from the forum.

Politics is ok on some boards here, and OP's complaint isn't quite about politics either. Just that the demanded solution doesn't make sense.

[vasyaebanvrot]

Have your politics out from the forum. If you have anything to contribute to the Bitcoin ecosystem then do or fuck off.

wrote a troll who advertises fraud and scam in his profile

[dkbit98]

Let me carefully think about all the countries that started or participated in last few decades of crazy wars...
By OP logic we should ban everything that exist in the world because someone else is triggered and can't handle words of someone else, or their feelings are offended.
If you don't like the rules of bitcointalk than spend your time on some place that is better for you, eco chambers will be much better for your fragile feelings.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Have your politics out from the forum.

Politics is ok on some boards here, and OP's complaint isn't quite about politics either. Just that the demanded solution doesn't make sense.

If I understand correctly then it belongs to Politics and Society section.
Well OP is trying to use the situation to create a sympathy from others but obviously he failed because of his asshole attitude.

Have your politics out from the forum. If you have anything to contribute to the Bitcoin ecosystem then do or fuck off.

wrote a troll who advertises fraud and scam in his profile

Troll fits you better. Shut up your mouth.

[GxSTxV]

Bitcointalk is a forum for everyone and was created by someone that knew days like these will come where everyone has the same power and freedom of speech here, nobody can judge you as you also can't judge anyone else I'm sure most of us looking for peace here and a place to shill not to talk about more war. But still not fair if the Russian mods are deleting posts because they belong to Ukrainians.
You're demanding to boycott russia and support Ukraine okay that's your opinion only. Someone else will come and demande the opposite doesn't matter who's right or wrong you both can argue about that and keep us away of that. We mainly care about crypto Xd

[goldkingcoiner]

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On this forum, everyone gets a voice and nobody gets their mouth held shut, like in China. Even if it is coming from people you disagree with and/or hate. Nobody is forcing you to read their posts or participate in their sub-forum. However, people who are in the EU do not get to dodge responsibility of their words. If you wish to report the individuals for something illegal they have said or done under EU laws, then feel free to do so. But don't be a mad little girl just because we are not mass-censoring people that you don't like.

If you and your people of Ukraine wish to be in the EU, then learn to abide by EU democracy. This is how we do things.
 

[decodx]

OP, there is no rule to force you to read posts from people you disagree with or don't care about. If we wanted our forum to be an echo chamber, and not a place where people can post free speech, free thought and free discussion, then it would not exist at all. Now remember that someone has to hold an opposing view in order for there to be a debate in the first place.

I love how this forum can be so friendly and caring at times, while having some really heated discussion as well. You'll never see this in a place where everyone is striving to be politically correct and just won't speak their minds. We all have an opinion on something, no matter what it is and should respect each other enough to share our thoughts rather than always try to find a way to put each other down. Now I am not here to give a nice speech about discourse and how we need to be civil to each other, blah blah blah. I'm a big boy and I can read shitty posts and take them for what they are - opinions of people who I don't care about. So you should also be able to read shitty posts without being offended by them.

[vasyaebanvrot]

once again I am convinced how stupid and indifferent the Western nation is. when Russian bastards come to your house, rape and kill your children and loved ones in front of your eyes, then remember about "freedom of speech" pray to the creature that Ukraine won this war. Otherwise, you all just die!
if everyone here is in favor of freedom of speech and democracy, let's start a topic on pedophilia, racial intolerance, etc. in this forum dump. Is that the same as freedom of speech? if someone likes to fuck kids...