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November 29, 2022, 07:33:39 PM
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The reason why I asked this question is because I have been following local boards activities posted monthly by Rikafip. Every month Russia activity is always more than double of the other countries. This means that the population of Russians in this forum is higher than other countries by large portion.





I also understand that bitcoin url was  blacklisted by the Russian government and yet they are still topping all the charts.

This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. I said so because I am a Nigerian. If I am able to develop something like because, I will bring my people in to take early spot and they will also support me when necessary.

There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum?

 
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November 29, 2022, 07:46:21 PM
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I do not why there are some many people from Russia here on Bitcointalk, I do not mind, at all.
I have just assumed to this day that people from Russia have a natural attraction towards technology, cryptography and computer science. I may be completely wrong though.  Tongue


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November 29, 2022, 07:59:55 PM
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Oh, my good friend @uchegod-21, you may be making a point by this your statement about Satoshi's origin, but that being said only local board activities of Russians people in this forum can not be a reason to say Satoshi is really a Russian since we know how privacy-conscious Satoshi is so I don't think he will bring in many people from his domain that will dominate the forum to the extent of making top on the local board activities consistently for several months, without any of them making or putting out vital information that could lead the whole world to Satoshi identity.

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November 29, 2022, 08:02:10 PM
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This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. I said so because I am a Nigerian. If I am able to develop something like because, I will bring my people in to take early spot and they will also support me when necessary.
Satoshi needed to be covert with his activities as privacy was very high in his priority. Introducing people from your country to the new technology and to such a large extent that it becomes the most populate local board in the forum created for that technology would surely not help you to stay anonymous or private.

There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum?
Possible reasons;
• They have a strong interest in Bitcoin,
• They have a connected local community which encourages users to identify as Russians,
• They had an early interest in Bitcoin technology, etcetera.

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November 29, 2022, 08:27:22 PM
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The charts you've posted show that there's a lot of Russians in the Russian local board, much more than in other local boards, but that can be interpreted in many different ways.
It doesn't mean there's little people from different nations on bitcointalk, but that there's little people willing to post in local boards. I could use myself as an example here. I live in an English-speaking country, but I'm not a native. I was born in another country and there's a local board for that country here, but I don't use it. I find much better threads in other sections and don't have time to be a content creator for my inactive local board.

I feel like Russians have a very strong attachment to the Cyrillic and prefer it over English. I've always found it funny while playing online games that everybody used to communicate in English, but Russians always ignored that and used their alphabet, even when they understood us. Back in the day when I played a lot, you'd always get a random Russian in Dota or CS who would reply to you in his language.
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November 29, 2022, 08:53:42 PM
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Great research! I don't know why there are so many Russians on this forum, but I know they make this community strong. But this chart doesn't mean that Satoshi is from Russia, Satoshi will not disclose his privacy by bringing people from his country.
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November 29, 2022, 09:20:16 PM
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Posts per local board and active members on the forum isn't an accurate method to measure bitcoin adoption, much less the nationality of its creator. There are many bitcoin enthusiasts besides the members of this forum, although it's undeniable russian community is pretty active on every sectors of crypto environment.

I'm not sure the reason, but as I've observed many russians look for extra income, because they are also present in every micro earnings sites. Maybe it's worthful for them because local currency, ruble, is devalued. On this forum, for example, the high traffic of russians might be due to bounty campaigns.

The fact is that the origins of Satoshi's identity remains unknown and probably will remain so.

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November 29, 2022, 09:38:56 PM
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your topic title is very clickbait bro.  satoshi has nothing to do with a local board that has high activity (it's like making baseless speculation), satoshi is everywhere, watching us somewhere even maybe he has been around the world.  

i read this article [https://triple-a.io/crypto-ownership-russia2022/] and from the data they provide, there are currently about 10% of Russians who own cryptocurrencies and that is quite a large number, and that data is supported by this article as well [https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/20/treasury-department-russia-avoid-sanctions-using-crypto.html]

lastly, there is also a possibility that not only Russians are active on the Russian board locally but from neighboring countries that have the same language maybe.


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I think you forgot to add some important information in your OP, one factor to be considered is that Russian local board was the first local board on bitcointalk. Which means they have been around for the longest time, and also considering their affinity for speaking their own language in IRL and on every online platform. Other local boards That alone is enough reason for their local board to be more active over the years than the others in the forum.
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lastly, there is also a possibility that not only Russians are active on the Russian board locally but from neighboring countries that have the same language maybe.

Good point. Georgians, Moldovans, and so on would fall into the same subforum. Bulgarians also don't have their own forum, but use the same alphabet, so they could be contributing.
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November 29, 2022, 10:11:22 PM
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This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian.
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This is a wrong conclusion. The forum activity you have shown refers only to local boards and doesn't include the main forum boards. Do you know how many Americans are active on the forums? Or British, Canadian and Australian members—how many of them post here regularly? Besides, Russia is a very large country with a larger population than many western nations. Have you ever considered that maybe the Russian local board is so active because English isn't as prevalent among Russians? Russians tend to use their native language and the Cyrillic alphabet. Many Russians also speak other languages, but students can choose from different language such as German or French—not necessarily English.
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OP, you did well by raising this topic with a good findings but however this is not factual to postulate that there is a correlation between the Russian Local board and Satoshi origin and identity. If I may ask how does this satistical findings on the Russian local board chat participation connotes that he Satoshi is from their? Are there any substantial variables to back your claims? Well I get your point when you try to say that as a person who invented or first accessed an innovation, you will want to bring your people onboard so as to first gain access to that certain technology or innovation which is what every normal and reasonable human would do but however, I do not see anything here which you have said to have any linking with Satoshi. Russians I believe are very much technologically and ICT inclined so hence their early and active participation on their very own local board. We should also note that bounty campaigns run on this platform which is also a means of getting extra income so therefore I will say that presenting a statistical chart for local board participation is not enough proof  to back your assumptions or claims.

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November 29, 2022, 10:35:29 PM
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This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian.
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This is a wrong conclusion. The forum activity you have shown refers only to local boards and doesn't include the main forum boards. Do you know how many Americans are active on the forums? Or British, Canadian and Australian members—how many of them post here regularly? Besides, Russia is a very large country with a larger population than many western nations. Have you ever considered that maybe the Russian local board is so active because English isn't as prevalent among Russians? Russians tend to use their native language and the Cyrillic alphabet. Many Russians also speak other languages, but students can choose from different language such as German or French—not necessarily English.

Exactly! And also did Satoshi make his posts in Russian? I know he made some posts in British English and others in American style but that’s as far as the trail leads. In my opinion, Satoshi did a great job in concealing his identity, I don’t think we will find the true identity of the pseudonymous person or persons Satoshi Nakamoto that easily even the name is pointing to a different continent. Never once did he write in Japanese, this says a lot about the way HE presented his person. All this was meant to confuse those who would try to find the face behind bitcoin.
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November 29, 2022, 11:03:26 PM
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There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum?


I mean, if this is the only evidence that you can present to prove that Satoshi is Russian, then I think that you are lacking substantial evidence. Again, the fact that a certain board has more activity compared to other boards is not conclusive of anything, let alone implying that Satoshi might be Russian. Though some factors may still be considered, this fact alone cannot be conclusive to think that Satoshi is even Russian.

Like what previous discussions have mentioned, the pseudonym "Satoshi" can be a group of people or even an organization. No one really knows about his or their identity/identities since he/they clearly left without a trace.
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November 29, 2022, 11:40:54 PM
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You are asking the wrong question. It should be, "Why is the Russian local board, more active than the rest?"

Your stats haven't considered the English boards, which makes the assumption not strong enough. I am not from Russia, but their board could be very active because of the nature of policies there.

One thing I have noticed is that there are so many exchangers that seem to originate from Russia than from anywhere else, if you check exchange monitors like Bestchange. Perhaps folks from there are more exposed to crypto and other forms of online transactions.

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November 29, 2022, 11:48:14 PM
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until now no one knows where satoshi came from, and if you want to look deeper I don't think we will find the answer until satoshi reveals his identity,
about russian people , a lot of activity in this forum .
I think Russian people have high interest in crypto because we can see many blockchain projects from Russia
you could say the people there are more open and the community they have is very strong about crypto and blockchain
and they made this forum a place for online discussion ,  like other countries I think

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November 29, 2022, 11:58:52 PM
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It is true that very many Russians join bitcoin talk, more than 1.5 million Russians are involved in bitcoin talk, they are also involved in home mining, because Russia's energy resources and climate provide some of the best conditions for mining from their own homes, although they are a lot involved in bitcoin talk but that doesn't mean Satoshi Nakamoto is Russian, because until whenever we will never know where Satoshi's real origins are.

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November 30, 2022, 12:31:00 AM
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The reason why I asked this question is because I have been following local boards activities posted monthly by Rikafip. Every month Russia activity is always more than double of the other countries. This means that the population of Russians in this forum is higher than other countries by large portion.

I also understand that bitcoin url was   blacklisted by the Russian government and yet they are still topping all the charts.

This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. I said so because I am a Nigerian. If I am able to develop something like because, I will bring my people in to take early spot and they will also support me when necessary.

There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum?


Your questions are assumptions that needs to be researched on to verify the relationship between the population of Russia in Bitcoin talk and the nationality of Satoshi. Until we do a proper research on this topic, lets keep on making suggestions and assumptions. The population of Russia compared to other countries could be a good reason why they have more activities in the forum. It could also be that some of the first members of this forum are Russians. Their high population could also be that Russian have close relationship and are openhearted. I said this because it is possible they have the tendency of introducing their countrymen to something good than other countries. Some people are very selfish that they might not want to introduce anyone to such an educative platform because they want only themselves to acquire relevant knowledge.

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November 30, 2022, 01:29:46 AM
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Satoshi lived in the Internet.

He communicated through email and message boards with people all around the world.

At that time, there was basically no local communities for Bitcoin.

I don't see how having a big community of people using or talking about Bitcoin in a specific area of the world is linked to where Satoshi is from.

Bitcoin was born in the Internet, it has no borders, or origins. It actually needed at least one other peer to start mining, so even that origin is not from a singular physical place.

Also, you're not comparing the main area of the forum, which is in English. There's no local board for English because it's the main one.
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So you're guessing Satoshi is a Russian because Russian board has a lot post and active members among other local board in this forum?

If I create 300 alt accounts and then make 3000 post on Turkish board, would you say Satoshi is from Turkish? If I create 400 alt accounts and then make 6000 post on new local board e.g. Nepal, would you say Satoshi is from Nepal?

Your assumption isn't make sense and there's 0% correlation about it.

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