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Do you have some stats about that, or could you maybe create special end of the yearly report for all local boards from the time of their creation? For example you can show what local board was most active in 2014, 2015, 2016 ... right up until 2022. Yeah something like that could be done as while Merit Dashboard doesn't show post data before December 2017, ninjastic.space does. I will think about it and see if I can come up with something at the end of the year.
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In last 2 years best deals I got with russians! Working with them is a pleasure. Definetly some of the best people in the crypto community!
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The reason why I asked this question is because I have been following local boards activities posted monthly by Rikafip. Every month Russia activity is always more than double of the other countries. This means that the population of Russians in this forum is higher than other countries by large portion. Are you basing it on the number of users here in Bitcointalk I guess logic tells us that it goes by the numbers of the population, Russia is huge and it just happens that they like and adopt decentralization This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. I said so because I am a Nigerian. If I am able to develop something like because, I will bring my people in to take early spot and they will also support me when necessary. Will any Russian here post if they have been invited personally by Satoshi to be part of this forum or ask them why they are here so far no Russian has posted that they know who Satoshi is or he's been invited by Satoshi? There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum? The only explanation I can think of is they are good at adapting to what's will have an impact in the future, and they are good at inviting their peers to this technology.
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I also understand that bitcoin url was blacklisted by the Russian government and yet they are still topping all the charts. This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. I said so because I am a Nigerian. If I am able to develop something like because, I will bring my people in to take early spot and they will also support me when necessary. There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum? Other accounts to this might ask if Satoshi Nakamoto is indeed a person or a group/organisation. It isn't obvious that it's just just hunch for you which from the name, there could be a lot of doubts not to mention that, the site is restricted in Russia which makes it unlikely as those within the Russian jurisdiction gets to access the forum using VPN. Another place to look which could account for the Russian massive participation is that, Russia isn't an English speaking nation and though we have so many great Russians whom are no strangers to English, there are those who are and they make good use of the Russian locale. As humans, unjust prohibitions often calls for uncommon participation. Again, with the saying we are all Satoshi, Nakamoto might just be a Russian, as well well a Nigerian, Korean and what have you...
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You are asking the wrong question. It should be, "Why is the Russian local board, more active than the rest?"
I support this, what if by chance there's a surge of Chinese users or their local boards become very active, will we assume that Satoshi is Chinese based on your assumption that there are a lot of active users on that particular board to assume that Satoshi comes from that country, we should rest the case on who is Satoshi Nakamoto and what's his nationality is, we already have a very long discussion on that and your assumption is not part of that.
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You are asking the wrong question. It should be, "Why is the Russian local board, more active than the rest?"
I support this, what if by chance there's a surge of Chinese users or their local boards become very active, will we assume that Satoshi is Chinese based on your assumption that there are a lot of active users on that particular board to assume that Satoshi comes from that country, we should rest the case on who is Satoshi Nakamoto and what's his nationality is, we already have a very long discussion on that and your assumption is not part of that. the answer is more than simple and only gets more complicated by making a relationship based on Satoshi's nationality. based on statistical data from the internet, Russia had a 2021 population of 143.4 million. if we compare it with 3.899 million in Croatia I guess it is obvious why there is such a difference. I would even say that following only the scale, Croatia and forum members from there are perhaps more active here. also, the largest number of individual frauds comes from Russian users. should we give them an honorary red flag because of that?
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December 03, 2022, 05:54:37 PM |
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The reason why I asked this question is because I have been following local boards activities posted monthly by Rikafip. Every month Russia activity is always more than double of the other countries. This means that the population of Russians in this forum is higher than other countries by large portion.
I'm wondering too, Another fact here is that the first local board was also created in Russian language, However, no one knows if this is true since everything is still annonymous , i'v learnt to live with the fact that the creator of Bitcoin Satoshi has decided for now they're annonymous until maybe they become known some day.
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I cannot connect the Russian board and Satoshi Nakamoto because of activity we could have thousands of reasons to connect Satoshi to anything but it must be backed by evidence, not just mere assumption, we cannot connect him as an extraterrestrial or a monk, the possibility is endless and since there are thousands possibility without solid evidence we should stop doing assumption or wild guess on who or what he is, let's just be happy on the thought that it greatly benefits the community with an unknown creator.
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No. And the argument in the main thread has not altered my belief that Satoshi Nakamoto is not a Russian. But is it enough to assume that Satoshi Nakamoto is an American, British, or even an Australian because the language spoken on the busiest boards are in English?
The fact that many nations in eastern Europe and central Asia speak Russian is one of the reasons why there are many people here that post on the Russian boards. They do not have their own local boards. Another is that there are numerous cryptocurrency projects with Russian roots, such as Vitalik Buterin, which in some way encouraged Russians to discover cryptocurrencies.
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The activities on the local board do not indicate that the majority of users are from Russia or that Satoshi is from Russia. We have thousands of users in this forum, and if you compare your statistics of users in the local board you created, you'll notice that most users don't really communicate in the local board, either because their local board isn't available here or because they don't want their location to be known.
The forum's privacy will prevent accurate statistics on where the users in this forum are from. Some users here who understand more than one language have commented on more than one local board; the origin of such users cannot be determined unless they reveal themselves. You made an assumption, but the facts you provided does not support it.
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The activities on the local board do not indicate that the majority of users are from Russia or that Satoshi is from Russia. We have thousands of users in this forum, and if you compare your statistics of users in the local board you created, you'll notice that most users don't really communicate in the local board, either because their local board isn't available here or because they don't want their location to be known. Satoshi could be from Russia, but he could also be from England or America which doesn't actually have a local board. I agree that Satoshi is not Indonesian, but all possibilities regarding other countries are understandable. Russia has a large user base on forums, but that doesn't prove that Satoshi is from there. I could even think of Satoshi as a group of people from several countries, but operating this forum account is one person. About who and where Satoshi came from is still an unsolved mystery, and I'm sure it will stay the same forever.
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Satoshi will remain a mystery, we will never know who he really is until one day it is revealed by himself or by a government organization. I have no doubts about Satoshi's anonymity, it is necessary and will definitely support his endeavors as a decentralized asset creator. So I found no reason why he should reveal his identity now or in the future. Besides that, I also can't find any reason why he is said to be Russian just because Russia has many users in this forum. What if Satoshi is German or maybe from one of the Asian countries that don't have much activity on local board, isn't that always possible?
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the answer is more than simple and only gets more complicated by making a relationship based on Satoshi's nationality. based on statistical data from the internet, Russia had a 2021 population of 143.4 million. if we compare it with 3.899 million in Croatia I guess it is obvious why there is such a difference. I would even say that following only the scale, Croatia and forum members from there are perhaps more active here.
Still, it is not enough information to draw a conclusion from. Romania has a much larger population than Croatia yet it has the lowest activity on the chart. The most accurate probability we can find is how probable it is that Satoshi is part of a particular nationality calculating activity per board and distributing it by population. Like if Russia has a total population of 10 citizens and the local board has 1, it means ideally 1 in 10 Russians are on Bitcoin Talk (that is if we knew all Russians who have a Bitcoin Talk account are active on the Local board as well, but we all know this is not true in reality). Then you would know how many of each nationality are on the Forum versus total population, finally giving you some numbers you can maybe work with. Like if 1 in 50 Russians are on Bitcoin Talk versus only 1 in 5000 Croatians, is it fair to say it is more probable that Satoshi is Russian than Croatian? Or am I stupid? - Regards, PrivacyG
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I think you forgot to add some important information in your OP, one factor to be considered is that Russian local board was the first local board on bitcointalk. Which means they have been around for the longest time, and also considering their affinity for speaking their own language in IRL and on every online platform. Other local boards That alone is enough reason for their local board to be more active over the years than the others in the forum.
There isn't strong evidence to prove Satoshi's a Russian. How do you know the first local board was Russian? This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. <...>
This is a wrong conclusion. The forum activity you have shown refers only to local boards and doesn't include the main forum boards. Do you know how many Americans are active on the forums? Or British, Canadian and Australian members—how many of them post here regularly? Besides, Russia is a very large country with a larger population than many western nations. Have you ever considered that maybe the Russian local board is so active because English isn't as prevalent among Russians? Russians tend to use their native language and the Cyrillic alphabet. Many Russians also speak other languages, but students can choose from different language such as German or French—not necessarily English. His conclusion's wrong. It's based on his opinion. He's finding something to connect together to make the wrong conclusion. Satoshi had clean GB English & international English, there isn't strong evidence supporting Satoshi was Russian. There's evidence Satoshi's a pseudonym used by more than one person. So you're guessing Satoshi is a Russian because Russian board has a lot post and active members among other local board in this forum?
If I create 300 alt accounts and then make 3000 post on Turkish board, would you say Satoshi is from Turkish? If I create 400 alt accounts and then make 6000 post on new local board e.g. Nepal, would you say Satoshi is from Nepal?
Your assumption isn't make sense and there's 0% correlation about it.
He doesn't see there's 0% correlation or his assumption isn't making sense, he's convinced.
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~ This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. I said so because I am a Nigerian. If I am able to develop something like because, I will bring my people in to take early spot and they will also support me when necessary.
There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum? Looks exactly like the equality movement and women getting less pay, you ignored the people that talks English which the majority does and take a sub section of the forum and trying to reach a conclusion ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) . Next time think before creating a hypothetical theory ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . People from Common Wealth countries generally use British and US English interchangeably.
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If you're resolute give examples. Name countries where it's common. I can't think of one using GB British English and international English interchangeably. People from Common Wealth countries generally use British and US English interchangeably.
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I think you forgot to add some important information in your OP, one factor to be considered is that Russian local board was the first local board on bitcointalk. Which means they have been around for the longest time, and also considering their affinity for speaking their own language in IRL and on every online platform. Other local boards That alone is enough reason for their local board to be more active over the years than the others in the forum.
There isn't strong evidence to prove Satoshi's a Russian. How do you know the first local board was Russian? History of local boardsSo the first and oldest local board is Russian. I am starting to ponder if Satoshi Nakamoto is Russian, but like Vitalik Buterin, he was already living in a western country like the United States or Canada. Despite these possibilities, there is no solid proof of Satoshi Nakamoto being Russian. Rather than being a Russian, Satoshi Nakamoto is more likely a group of people. Which isn't to be expected in any way.
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December 12, 2022, 10:39:02 PM |
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The reason why I asked this question is because I have been following local boards activities posted monthly by Rikafip. Every month Russia activity is always more than double of the other countries. This means that the population of Russians in this forum is higher than other countries by large portion.
This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. I said so because I am a Nigerian. If I am able to develop something like because, I will bring my people in to take early spot and they will also support me when necessary.
There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum?
It should have been established long before that Satoshi is a Russian, there was no writing or post that indicate that he is a Russian he could have posted at least one Russian word or mentioned anything in Russia but there was none and no Russian has claimed that they received an invitation or even a greeting coming from Nakamoto it's not even a theory it's more of a fiction trying to connect something that cannot connect, it just happen that they are more interested in Cryptocurrency they have a huge population and they are open to this new technology.
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December 13, 2022, 07:38:37 PM |
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It should have been established long before that Satoshi is a Russian, there was no writing or post that indicate that he is a Russian he could have posted at least one Russian word or mentioned anything in Russia but there was none and no Russian has claimed that they received an invitation or even a greeting coming from Nakamoto it's not even a theory
It does not serve as proof of Nakamoto not being a Russian however. Nakamoto chose a Japanese name and spoke British English. These two alone are confusing and mismatched enough, unless Nakamoto really was born in UK and given this name which at this point every body doubts. He tried to keep his identity hidden, meaning it is likely that he threw decoys at us every now and then to make things harder to connect. There are 13 years since he turned it all public. We still have close to zero evidence of his identity, except a few guesses like Finney. - Regards, PrivacyG
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