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[BitCoinDream]

You don't just have to 'silently watch'. You can warm others by voicing your concerns and stating why you think it is or might be a scam etc. You can also leave negative feedback as a warning.

I have previous experience in trying to bust a probable scam in Alt coin section, while a member with big +ve trust appeared from nowhere and threatened in PM to leave -ve trust because he 'thought' I was Spamming. I have seen before that people are wrongly attributed -ve trust, but the people with +ve do not cover them even after no evidence of SCAM is found. In this scenario, when +ve trust accounts are on sell in a certain section, I feel it is better not to get into an unnecessary controversy as anyone can leave a -ve feedback from a purchased +ve trust account now.

[Swordsoffreedom]

You don't just have to 'silently watch'. You can warm others by voicing your concerns and stating why you think it is or might be a scam etc. You can also leave negative feedback as a warning.

I have previous experience in trying to bust a probable scam in Alt coin section, while a member with big +ve trust appeared from nowhere and threatened in PM to leave -ve trust because he 'thought' I was Spamming. I have seen before that people are wrongly attributed -ve trust, but the people with +ve do not cover them even after no evidence of SCAM is found. In this scenario, when +ve trust accounts are on sell in a certain section, I feel it is better not to get into an unnecessary controversy as anyone can leave a -ve feedback from a purchased +ve trust account now.

Trust should be for warning people about possible scams or on trades
I guess it's a bit different from shilling though.
The initial definition of trust is if a user trusts a certain user or entity with some responsibility aka a trade moderating a section of the forum etc.
But that does seem like a mute button but it likely depends on how often you complain about something being a scam.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

I agree it needs cleaning up but Nuking it? You should think twice before you make a Decision like that because it will No doubt hurt this Forum and bitcoin itself.   All the altcoins end up being traded for BTC and spurs market activity and price with all the sales. If you Nuke the alt forum on the worlds most popular BTC site then you will drive BTC prices lower and lose tons of people. look at these stats.


      
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How many users do you think would drop from this site if you Nuke that area?  Think about your investments think about your BTC value.   I think if you nuke it the BTC price drops over a $100 in the first week.

Like it or not it would hurt everyone.  I say clean it up but leave it.

Nuking the altcoin section will have an positive effect on the value of altcoins. It may have a severe drop in the value of certain smaller altcoins, but these funds will flow into BTC, increasing the value of BTC.

Activity =/= effect on price of another currency.

Please nuke the altcoin section.

[lyth0s]

If you remove the altcoin section the spammers will probably just move into other subforums, do we really want that? I personally have 2 altcoin threads (that I just recently created) and I enjoy knowing that I only have to deal with the altcoin people when I want to (otherwise I can just ignore that subforum)

[Lauda]

If you remove the altcoin section the spammers will probably just move into other subforums, do we really want that? I personally have 2 altcoin threads (that I just recently created) and I enjoy knowing that I only have to deal with the altcoin people when I want to (otherwise I can just ignore that subforum)

Actually you're wrong on this one. Even if they do move to other sections, which are much more regulated there would be a ton of bans handed out and all sorted.
The problem doesn't lie in the members, it lies in a section which is not moderated enough.
~Lauda

[nutildah]

As anyone can see if you read the responses from Theymos and Badbear about adding mods in the alt section is that they do not believe it is needed despite the many months long call for such and the obvious need for it.

The only conclusions that comes to mind is the one stated by them is that they do not really care about the Alt Section at all.

I get this and agree with it completely so why not remove it completely?


~BCX~

Hmm... It would appear its because they don't care enough to bother making the effort to remove it completely. No disrespect, they probably have their own reasons and rationale. We just don't know what they are.

I do enjoy the libertarian, no-holds barred ethos of moneychanging savagism that has come to define the altworld (and cryptocurrency in general). Its fascinating to watch. Yet the human side of me can't help but feel sorry for all the people who are getting suckered by those claiming to be their best buds.

Being a scamdev is a shit, godless job and those people should have more shame. They are ruining the credibility of the entire scene, and their greed will eventually be their own downfall.

Hopefully the learning curve for new traders will steepen up, but there seems to be a neverending supply of fresh blood. Or else the same 100 damn people have the memory of goldfishes. One or the other.

[s1lverbox]

Once and for all should be cleaned. Even if this means nuke the whole section.

[nutildah]

You really should shut down the entire forum.

Not just the alt section. The entire forum.

It has become a complete mockery of Satoshi's vision.

[BitCoinDream]

You really should shut down the entire forum.

Not just the alt section. The entire forum.

It has become a complete mockery of Satoshi's vision.

Instead U can stop visiting this forum altogether. That would solve your problem as well as ours

[nutildah]

You really should shut down the entire forum.

Not just the alt section. The entire forum.

It has become a complete mockery of Satoshi's vision.

Instead U can stop visiting this forum altogether. That would solve your problem as well as ours

Nothing can solve your problem.

[SwingBTC]

If you want free market you have to deal with this. This forum is a product of free market. Enjoy!

[Gleb Gamow]

I've banned quite a few, they just reregister, pay their little fee to bypass the ip ban, and come right back. In theory it works because it increases, but that's dependent on being banned repeatedly, and I got better shit to do than ban the same guy for the same stuff over and over. Particularly when there's hundreds more just like him.

Maybe if we had an army of bears... or dogs

... or PGs! 

[EFS]

I've banned quite a few, they just reregister, pay their little fee to bypass the ip ban, and come right back. In theory it works because it increases, but that's dependent on being banned repeatedly, and I got better shit to do than ban the same guy for the same stuff over and over. Particularly when there's hundreds more just like him.

Maybe if we had an army of bears... or dogs

... or PGs! 

One PG is enough for this forum.