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December 03, 2022, 07:33:32 PM
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First of all many members will roast me and will say that where you got such idea, why are you bluffing but this is Bitcoin discussion, so I thought that I should share something.

1) Many Of Small traders always got into the Trap of Whales? Why?

2) There are Always Ponzi Schemes in All Bull runs like 2027 was ICO big Scam
And Now BIG crypto projects Got scammed in 2022 like Terra Luna, FTX, Solana, Serum etc. They are not just coincidence. These are preplanned Scams. And that. Sucks.
3) I think that Big Exchanges that are centralized are Big whales cause they know how much volume they have and how many longs and also Shorts. In this way they can Scam with many many wats. And also that is a small reason that we cannot outsmart Whales 🐋🐳.


Yes it is very obvious that the whales have more control of the market than a mere trader or investors like us. We don't have to power or what it takes to shake the power because our funds or holding means nothing and can not move bird to fly. We just have to control doing our best, checking news and get fast information because this is where many investors get it wrong. The faster we become more informed, the less the chances of us becoming scammed and falling to the cheap rug pull or crash of some projects or the crypto market entirely. Since information is power then we need to embrace it.

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December 03, 2022, 08:01:27 PM
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As a matter of fact, thinking like a whale is the same as thinking like a rich person, and that's just what every person needs if they want to become rich. While that's a rate thing, otherwise, the vast majority of people would be bitcoin whales. As a matter of fact, whales are patient and this patience pays off just in time. They will not sell themselves and their assets for cheap prices and they always aim to reach a higher target and that's why you see that they usually earn a lot while other people are losing money.

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December 03, 2022, 09:04:14 PM
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As a matter of fact, whales are patient and this patience pays off just in time. They will not sell themselves and their assets for cheap prices and they always aim to reach a higher target and that's why you see that they usually earn a lot while other people are losing money.
This is clearly the right answer on why some people cannot think like the whales.

Most people who just entered the market are thinking that adopting/investing in Bitcoin is just like a ride in the bus or a kind of get-rich-quick overnight without looking or even knowing what are the risk. And I bet, whales know how to minimize their losses and how to maximize their profit that's why it is impossible to some people to think like the whales.
Clearly, they don't have the knowledge of the whales that's why they failed.

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December 03, 2022, 09:09:10 PM
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A simple and straightforward answer is you don't have money like Whales.

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Bro as I said above we don't own so much amount of money there are some other reasons as well bro, Do you really think whales go all in the bitcoin or any other asset for an investment opportunity. As we people own limited resources and we don't want to risk it, this is where we are wrong but responsibilities are forcing us to do this. Whales own money + they risk with diversity. Our mindset also plays an important role in this process.



I think the whale talk is not permanent to just certain people looking at money or finance. Whales is happening in a circle and some whale lose the position when they dump during bull and sometimes they are hoping buying back when it is bear but maybe they don't get that chance to manipulate for the main time. I don't think they hodl coin when price is high enough to dump. Anybody can be a whale when they have capital and decide to invest in.
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December 03, 2022, 09:28:54 PM
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As a matter of fact, thinking like a whale is the same as thinking like a rich person, and that's just what every person needs if they want to become rich. While that's a rate thing, otherwise, the vast majority of people would be bitcoin whales. As a matter of fact, whales are patient and this patience pays off just in time. They will not sell themselves and their assets for cheap prices and they always aim to reach a higher target and that's why you see that they usually earn a lot while other people are losing money.
^Whales usually don't invest and set aside, they always want to make the market price shake according to their plan.
I don't see whales did not manipulate the market or just investing and waiting for the right time. You are not whales on that, you are a real investor of the BTC. When whales wanted to invest at a lower price, they will make FUD which makes new investors panic and sell their BTC so that they can enter the market with a cheap price and sell it bull trend is coming. So we cannot think the same way of whales but if you are aware of those whales' strategies will probably you will not be affected by their FUD.
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December 03, 2022, 09:40:33 PM
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Whales are smarter when it talks about opportunities. They are very certain about their plan and movement unlike how these usual investors do.
Whales are not easily got panic, they don't care much about FUDs and so whatever because they believe that all of these are just temporary and if you are aiming long-term, it doesn't matter.

Besides, whales are not afraid to lose their money, they are risk-takers. And they can stand their plan despite the market condition, unlike usual investors that easily change their minds because they carry worries and uncertainties.
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December 03, 2022, 10:57:32 PM
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Whales are smarter when it talks about opportunities. They are very certain about their plan and movement unlike how these usual investors do.
Whales are not easily got panic, they don't care much about FUDs and so whatever because they believe that all of these are just temporary and if you are aiming long-term, it doesn't matter.
Of course, they don't panic about the FUDs because they are the people who created the FUDs.  Grin
Whales know very well how to use media, they know people easily get afraid of negative issues announced by the media. Since they have big money, it is easy to pay the media for spreading some bad news/issues.

Besides, whales are not afraid to lose their money, they are risk-takers. And they can stand their plan despite the market condition, unlike usual investors that easily change their minds because they carry worries and uncertainties.
How do you know they are not afraid to lose money?  Huh
They are humans, they must have the feeling to be afraid of losing their funds.
However, since they have the power to influence crypto market, they are confident about what they do. Moreover, they must work together, whales seem to have a big group to dominate crypto market.

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December 07, 2022, 06:18:54 AM
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The blue whale's extraordinary ability to control heart rate and blood flow may help explain why blue whales are the largest animals on Earth.
Because we are in different positions, their every word or action may affect an industry or a stock. So even if we think the same way, we can't do anything.
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December 07, 2022, 07:36:01 AM
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First of all many members will roast me and will say that where you got such idea, why are you bluffing but this is Bitcoin discussion, so I thought that I should share something.

1) Many Of Small traders always got into the Trap of Whales? Why?

2) There are Always Ponzi Schemes in All Bull runs like 2027 was ICO big Scam
And Now BIG crypto projects Got scammed in 2022 like Terra Luna, FTX, Solana, Serum etc. They are not just coincidence. These are preplanned Scams. And that. Sucks.
3) I think that Big Exchanges that are centralized are Big whales cause they know how much volume they have and how many longs and also Shorts. In this way they can Scam with many many wats. And also that is a small reason that we cannot outsmart Whales 🐋🐳.


It may be true that they (whale exchangers) can increase or decrease the price irrationally in certain coins because they can read the market cap in detail so they play for additional profits, but I see that not all whales come from exchangers.

Whales outside exchangers (institutions/individuals) in my opinion are more careful because the amount of money they spend is of course quite large, this will be of deep concern to them, they will often study and research further regarding investment decisions and of course besides that they better to protect anything that threatens their money in the market, of course, this could get serious if they didn't do their research well. In contrast to what we (retail investors) do only rely on trends and technical analysis speculation to make investment decisions without going deeper.
And I've watched some whales go crazy they pump altcoins and shitcoins at such a scale that people would think it's very bullish and interested in buying and then after they (the whales) make a profit they withdraw funds, and the late people withdraw profits and the last to enter the bullish scheme will get a loss.

My additional thoughts on why it's so hard for us to outsmart the Pope:
1. There are many whales and their characters
2. The whales are always well-informed and early
3. we are too greedy

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December 07, 2022, 04:33:55 PM
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My additional thoughts on why it's so hard for us to outsmart the Pope:
1. There are many whales and their characters
2. The whales are always well-informed and early
3. we are too greedy

There are many popes and their characters, which means that some popes have their own strategies, but the popes are more careful and more specific in making each transaction, because they will be very concerned about the big transactions that occur.
Whales get early information because they have wide channels so they can do some manipulations to influence small investors with various kinds of news that are published.
This is also related to the Market Fundamental Pad, Whales have an important role in the Market Fundamentals because they manage everything well and lead to a strategy that they are blind to.
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December 07, 2022, 04:55:17 PM
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1) Many Of Small traders always got into the Trap of Whales? Why?

Well, retail investors do not think like whales because the whales have long term vision and most small traders are happy to get little profit. That's the reason in case of a bullish rally the retails usually sell early while whales have their big targets.

In bear times, retail are fearful and do not buy at cheap rates while the whales accumulate in these fearful times. There is a difference in the approach between retail and whales and that is the main reason why whales always win over small investors.

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December 07, 2022, 08:28:10 PM
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Whale in crypto field refer to big institute or a high amount of crypto investor, and they have power that they controls the market because of amount is bitcoins at least 100 btc or more and when they sell there is not a chance that anyone stops the market ,
Now why dont we think like them , friends its not depends on our thought its their strategies , As we buy on any support so we thinks the price goes higher but if they sell at that time you dont have chance to avoid getting lose ,So they dont plans weeks ago they are market makers they traps us emotionally .

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Whales i.e those that have a large share of Bitcoin, will become less influential as time goes on. Bitcoin will become a little more diversified, as these whales sell, and that means there are less single entities holding a large share of Bitcoin. You want whales to sell right now, even if that causes panic selling. Since, you want every opportunity for that whale's share to get distributed among several users.

I keep saying this, but the price of today is irrelevant, and users need to stop getting so obsessed with it, if they're planning on using Bitcoin for a long time or always planning to use it. As for Whales being the culprits to some of the largest scams relating to Bitcoin, I mean probably. Although, that's only because these companies that have become successful have managed to amass a rather large share. It's not that every person who buys a large amount of Bitcoin is going to scam.
That is if they sell. These guys are hard to budge if not even to persuade them to buy a portion of their holdings. Although the idea that bitcoin could become a little less whale-controlled is idealistic, I would very much want it to happen in the soonest. Still, with the amount of bitcoins these fellows hold there's no doubt their standing is relatively high compared to ours, the only thing we got going for us is we outnumber them in quantity.


I would agree with the notion of today's price being irrelevant too, but to some degree at least, I guess you're trying to be metaphorical but price trends for bitcoin, no matter how volatile it is could still be used to compare and predict its future price.

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December 07, 2022, 09:54:07 PM
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1) Many Of Small traders always got into the Trap of Whales? Why?

Well, retail investors do not think like whales because the whales have long term vision and most small traders are happy to get little profit. That's the reason in case of a bullish rally the retails usually sell early while whales have their big targets.

In bear times, retail are fearful and do not buy at cheap rates while the whales accumulate in these fearful times. There is a difference in the approach between retail and whales and that is the main reason why whales always win over small investors.
Their buying strategy is too different, they are in the opposite position.
Whales are buying when panic and fear increase while small investors buy during recovery. In that case, whales truly matured when it comes to investment and they can carry high-risk responsibilities pretty much unlike how these small investors do and think. It is all about mindset and market views, whales can perform better because of their long-term targets and they act consistently which we can never see in small investors as more of them are short-term investors and low risk-takers.

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December 07, 2022, 09:59:43 PM
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1) Many Of Small traders always got into the Trap of Whales? Why?

Well, retail investors do not think like whales because the whales have long term vision and most small traders are happy to get little profit. That's the reason in case of a bullish rally the retails usually sell early while whales have their big targets.

In bear times, retail are fearful and do not buy at cheap rates while the whales accumulate in these fearful times. There is a difference in the approach between retail and whales and that is the main reason why whales always win over small investors.
Their buying strategy is too different, they are in the opposite position.
Whales are buying when panic and fear increase while small investors buy during recovery. In that case, whales truly matured when it comes to investment and they can carry high-risk responsibilities pretty much unlike how these small investors do and think. It is all about mindset and market views, whales can perform better because of their long-term targets and they act consistently which we can never see in small investors as more of them are short-term investors and low risk-takers.
Whales will be accumulating when the small traders were in the panic as there is market crash. The small traders have limited fund and they try the best to safeguard the fund, whereas whales in the market have got good sum of money that makes them go for investment when the market is in panic.

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December 07, 2022, 10:03:33 PM
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As a matter of fact, thinking like a whale is the same as thinking like a rich person, and that's just what every person needs if they want to become rich.

I could have been very rich by now if that it true.  We should think and strive hard like rich people if we wanted to get rich.  Getting rich is easier said than done.


While that's a rate thing, otherwise, the vast majority of people would be bitcoin whales. As a matter of fact, whales are patient and this patience pays off just in time. They will not sell themselves and their assets for cheap prices and they always aim to reach a higher target and that's why you see that they usually earn a lot while other people are losing money.

Whales are scheming and they have the luxury of waiting, they dictate the trend of the market so they never get worry because they know when to buy and know when to sell, because after all they are the one dictating the trend of the market.

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December 07, 2022, 10:14:08 PM
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First of all many members will roast me and will say that where you got such idea, why are you bluffing but this is Bitcoin discussion, so I thought that I should share something.

1) Many Of Small traders always got into the Trap of Whales? Why?

2) There are Always Ponzi Schemes in All Bull runs like 2027 was ICO big Scam
And Now BIG crypto projects Got scammed in 2022 like Terra Luna, FTX, Solana, Serum etc. They are not just coincidence. These are preplanned Scams. And that. Sucks.
3) I think that Big Exchanges that are centralized are Big whales cause they know how much volume they have and how many longs and also Shorts. In this way they can Scam with many many wats. And also that is a small reason that we cannot outsmart Whales 🐋🐳.


If you know the game is rigged against you and you still decide to play then that is your fault, it is true that exchanges and whales in general have a huge advantage over the average trader, but if that is the case then you need to stop playing their game, and how can you do that? Just buy bitcoin and hold no matter what in a wallet you control, this way it does not matter what the whales may do, they will have no chance of ever taking advantage from you.
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December 07, 2022, 10:52:33 PM
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It's not whales that are manipulating the market. It's the banks and the people who attend World Economic Forum.

I have a conspiracy theory for you OP:
SBF is Jewish, so are his parents who were helping him with a the scam and happily taking millions of dollars in real estate from him. Gary Gensler, who was supposed to oversee FTX and make sure the CEO has the money, is Jewish. Recently we saw news that Goldman Sachs wants to buy some crypto companies. They smell blood in the water and guess what, the bank was established by a Jew.

Before someone labels it as antisemitism, I'm not being anti anything, this is nothing but a bunch of facts.

IMO this was a well-timed attack on cryptocurrencies.
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