Bitcointalk Christmas Charity Programme

[CryptSafe]

I have been pondering over this for some time now. This platform have come a long way to this height and as members of this platform,  most members that have been here long before now have highly benefited from this platform. The bitcointalk platform has made many men which most of you can attest to that fact. For many years, this platform have been in existence and to the best of my knowledge for the time I have been onboard this platform and carefulIy research I am yet to see any post about end of year or Christmas Charity program organized by members, please correct me if I am wrong.  I think giving back to the society can also make impart in the society and also promoting the Bitcoin movement which would likely call for more adoption.

This is just a suggestion, your opinions and ideas are all welcomed. Let us discuss.

What is your take on this topic and subject matter?

[Hamza2424]

My first response to this topic is a great effort, no doubt charity is a very good thing secondly my response to this discussion is I think this topic should not belong here as per rules but as in soft touch and topic sensitivity, I can consider this topic to be here still I would suggest to move it to the economic or off-topic discussion.

That's very much true most of the active members regularly to the Bitcoin Discussion session so charity from an active section is more reasonable.

[Accardo]

Well, you have a good thought for humanity, since its related to charity. However, I've seen popular threads where members voluntarily used money made from the forum to buy food, items, laptops for the poor or less privileged; in form of teaching them about bitcoin and the forum too. During the Covid 19 period they was a strong bitcointalk charity program across countries and citizens that needed help, also when the hodlonaut case came up and he needed funds, members here sent money to help him win his Case. So, looking at the decentralized nature of the forum only a few members can be trusted with money made from crowd funding as you suggested. Keeping it an individual obligation is nice, if you have money for charity then move to the streets and help the less privileged and get rewarded by nature and members with sMerit.

[Die_empty]

This is just a suggestion, your opinions and ideas are all welcomed. Let us discuss.

What is your take on this topic and subject matter?

This is a good suggestion since it is concerned with giving to the less privileged. Maybe some renowned and trusted forum members might become interested and spearhead this noble course.
 
Please I am not countering your proposal CryptSafe because it is worth supporting. I just want to use the opportunity express to my observation and suggestions. I have observed that people like giving to charity during festive periods. During celebration periods my country normally experience the highest level of food waste because many people are receiving more than they can consume. But we must understand that charity works should be part of our daily lives and not necessarily be motivated by celebrations. We shouldn't wait until Christmas before we organize a charity program. I am saying this because we neglect or fail to help some persons in need because that day is not Christmas or Salah. People need to survive before Christmas or Salah periods, so we need to support them before and after these celebrations.

[348Judah]

the time I have been onboard this platform and carefulIy research I am yet to see any post about end of year or Christmas Charity program organized by members, please correct me if I am wrong.

Christmas charity in what sense? Are you referring to giving out bitcoin for free during Christmas, if this is your guess then you're already missing it because you could just earn yourself some good sats by joining a signature campaign which is evennfar better than what you demanded.

If you're referring to Christmas charity in terms of merits as bonus then i think the forum has enough threads that are already into giving out to members once you meet the required standard.

I think giving back to the society can also make impart in the society and also promoting the Bitcoin movement which would likely call for more adoption

I think your Christmas charity quest should only be maintained within the bitcointalk community and nit extended to bitcoin itself, i don't know if you've heard or come across the bitcointalk community award ongoing, this is part of the ways some members of the forum organizes a recognition awards to its members, but remember that you can as well engage doing a charity from your own end to any member provided it's not against the forum rules, but we must not be too carried away from the major intent why this forum is created, which is bitcoin discussion.

There are also merits giveaway threads, contests, quiz, and other interesting varieties of help in different forms the forum has created to help each other, you may also introduced yours maybe on your country locale board or thread and lastly, try search onnthe forum for Christmas bonus as keyword and see some results.

[Die_empty]

the time I have been onboard this platform and carefulIy research I am yet to see any post about end of year or Christmas Charity program organized by members, please correct me if I am wrong.

Christmas charity in what sense? Are you referring to giving out bitcoin for free during Christmas, if this is your guess then you're already missing it because you could just earn yourself some good sats by joining a signature campaign which is evennfar better than what you demanded.

If you're referring to Christmas charity in terms of merits as bonus then i think the forum has enough threads that are already into giving out to members once you meet the required standard.

I think giving back to the society can also make impart in the society and also promoting the Bitcoin movement which would likely call for more adoption

I think your Christmas charity quest should only be maintained within the bitcointalk community and nit extended to bitcoin itself, i don't know if you've heard or come across the bitcointalk community award ongoing, this is part of the ways some members of the forum organizes a recognition awards to its members, but remember that you can as well engage doing a charity from your own end to any member provided it's not against the forum rules, but we must not be too carried away from the major intent why this forum is created, which is bitcoin discussion.

There are also merits giveaway threads, contests, quiz, and other interesting varieties of help in different forms the forum has created to help each other, you may also introduced yours maybe on your country locale board or thread and lastly, try search onnthe forum for Christmas bonus as keyword and see some results.

I think you misunderstood this thread @348Judah. What OP is proposing is a kind of Bitcointalk Christmas charity program where interested members can donate freely and the funds would be used to support the less privileged in our society. Christmas is generally seen as a time of giving and OP wants the community to use this period and reach out to people that needs help. He is not seeking the funds for himself or asking for an Xmas merit giveaway. His intention is encouraging and I think he deserves some credit for conceiving this uncommon idea. 

[Flexystar]

This will need to go through our boss theymos if it is gonna be directly associated with Bitcointalk Charity itself.

However, I have seen many many fellow members who has done very good job offering amazing charity programs over forum. They have gone very far with their personal efforts.

Whether it is flood relief, war donations, hurricane suffered people and most successful was during covid 19 charity. There were multiple charity programs run by them and we had astounding opportunity to donate for the good.

So if something like that comes up on the occasion of Christmas then yes absolutely fine and good vibes.

[rhomelmabini]

What is your take on this topic and subject matter?

Not that new I guess but would be good if it will be done in a way that it will be delivered to where it should be delivered. I think there's still an active charity program here considering I still see those people who managed it in the past but sadly not all charity program that goes here are 100% fine since there are still exploiters in the space.

[Lucius]

Various charities have been active on the forum in the past, but I'm not sure if there are any that are still active - especially after one such program was linked to misuse of donated funds. The question always arises as to who needs the funds the most, who will control these same funds and who will decide who will receive them.

I am more in favor of an individual approach, because if you are an active member of the forum, you can certainly at least guess who needs help, that is, who is having a hard time in life. Perhaps such things would be best organized within local boards where local members would join together and then donate to someone they know needs help or to a local charity.

[Portgas D]

This will need to go through our boss theymos if it is gonna be directly associated with Bitcointalk Charity itself.

However, I have seen many many fellow members who has done very good job offering amazing charity programs over forum. They have gone very far with their personal efforts.

Whether it is flood relief, war donations, hurricane suffered people and most successful was during covid 19 charity. There were multiple charity programs run by them and we had astounding opportunity to donate for the good.

So if something like that comes up on the occasion of Christmas then yes absolutely fine and good vibes.

It's great to see that there are still many who care for other people who have been hit by a disaster, or even don't have a life as fortunate as ours.
We as humans should help one another, regardless of race, ethnicity, religion or certain class. Because as long as we are still human, we must be useful human beings for other human beings.
Let's humanize humans.

[Hispo]

I have not seen any Christmas charity campaign either, I have seen other kinds of charity (Covid, natural disasters, etc).
If i had to guess why there have been no Christmas charity, I would say it is because people here also have plans off the forum during this season, so no reputable member of the community (who are the ones who could actually pull off a charity campaign) organize anything.

In the end, we all also need some time to spend with our families during these challenging times.

[meser#]

Wouldn't it be better to teach how to fish than to give fish? It would be better to prepare a paper wallet for Christmas and give it to those around us who we think should learn the way to financial freedom. In addition, by adding a QR code and link on this paper wallet, an tutorial topic on how to use paper wallets prepared for Christmas can be created here. One way or another, many people will meet cryptocurrency, but it would be better to meet the right one beforehand instead of scammers, fluencers etc.

[uchegod-21]

I have not seen any Christmas charity campaign either, I have seen other kinds of charity (Covid, natural disasters, etc).
If i had to guess why there have been no Christmas charity, I would say it is because people here also have plans off the forum during this season, so no reputable member of the community (who are the ones who could actually pull off a charity campaign) organize anything.

In the end, we all also need some time to spend with our families during these challenging times.

Actually it might not be tagged Christmas charity program but I know this forun is good at doing charity works. I have seen so many threads by individuals about charity and at a particular time some persons will need to sponsor such charity programs.
I was not here during the convict 19 time but I have seen some threads that discussed about charity of covid-19. It is a good thing so even if it is not tagged Christmas because the forum is not only for Christian. There is always a means of doing charity in this forum.

[Stalker22]

I suppose my thoughts on this matter are mixed. I really like the idea of it, but at the same time I have a lot of concerns about where the money will go, who will it be for and how it will be used.

That said, it is an excellent idea that I hope that it ends up working out in a meaningful way. A lot of people in this world are facing a number of challenges in their day to day lives. Hunger, poverty, and other problems have been an issue for far too long, and many charitable organizations are already trying hard to make a real difference.

[Falconer]

The charity program is doing well on the forums, I've seen it quite successful in a few chapters but I'm not sure if your idea will actually be supported. Money becomes very sensitive when in the past there have been several failed charitable programs, and it will be remembered by the community because the management was chaotic.

It would be better if you do it from yourself to others instead of expecting the community to do it. So without reducing respect, you are free to do it out there as you wish.

[CryptoPanda]

Doing charity work is a good initiative, and can come from anyone not necessarily the forum as a body. There have been such initiatives in the past, the most successfully executed would be Covid-19 charity programme organized by Royse777 and last year there was something similar to what you’re proposing , I’m skeptical of these programs after Bitcointalk Charity Program - Give Hope To Everyone! failed. I think the forum should put more focus on the BitcoinTalk show. There hasn’t been any activity on the YouTube page for some time.

[decodx]

The idea could be very successful, but you need the community to trust it first. I love your initiative to raise some funds for people but only if you can provide a service that is trustworthy and reliable. I'm not sure what the community would think about it, but I hope you get some traction!

[Hispo]

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I witnessed some of the achievements of the Covid-19 charity led by Royse777. et al and I believe it is a good example, but one must also be aware that charities can go wrong. Here is an example of it that maybe you did not know about:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376475.0

I believe that any act or campaign of charity is welcomed while it is carried out by reputable members of this forum and if the funds are kept in a multi-signature wallet then even better. The administrators could have some guidelines for charities, like keeping and providing evidences of purchase, disclosing public keys, etc. It would help.

[Peanutswar]

Well, it's a good idea just sometimes gather for and have a small time if you don't get into the discord server of the forum we can make it right there even just have a virtual party, for my ideal if we make it for the new year event or make an event which is more significant that helps other people.

[Poker Player]

In general I believe that if you are doing well financially, it is good to donate money/bitcoin/whatever to help others and I lead by example. Apart from occasional extraordinary donations, I donate to a charity I trust (using fiat) every month. It is an expense that I have set for myself as a fixed one, like paying the electricity bill.

As I'm normally a bit skeptical, I will say that I doubt whether the OP's thread starts from a sincere opinion or from the merit requirements of the campaing he is participating in. The merit requirement for this week already has it but there is a possible bonus.

Anyway, let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

What he wants is to open a debate. So let's debate.

Wouldn't it be better to teach how to fish than to give fish?

In an ideal world it would be better, what happens is that if you have someone hungry in front of you, he will not pay attention to you if you try to teach him something because he only thinks about food. So it is better to give food to the hungry and establish teaching them how to fish as a medium term plan.

It would be better to prepare a paper wallet for Christmas and give it to those around us who we think should learn the way to financial freedom. In addition, by adding a QR code and link on this paper wallet, an tutorial topic on how to use paper wallets prepared for Christmas can be created here. One way or another, many people will meet cryptocurrency, but it would be better to meet the right one beforehand instead of scammers, fluencers etc.

Sure, you're going to teach a poor person who needs charity to eat a lot of things about financial freedom. Come on! Giving him a paper wallet is completely useless, because as soon as he learns what it is, what he will do is change it to fiat to be able to pay for food, or if we think of a worse case scenario, alcohol or drugs.