Rating-Trading

[aliborn]

In the course of my work on analyzing the results of traders, I have accumulated a list of telegram channels with signals that I would like to share here - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19i8cno1kRo7pRvVUtWiSunRYdlyTjo9HL7mNrpZBMwk/edit#gid=0

I will give my opinion on the value of this list - the value is not great, but the results of my work on channel analysis can give directions for making a profit. Just remember that everything needs to be double-checked.

After checking the information, you need to do testing at a distance, for this we connect test accounts with a small, but real amount and look at the dynamics of 2-4 months. This is how one of these accounts with public monitoring looks like https://tradelink.pro/portfolio/618c6ef0-4536-4bf8-98d9-e096223cd460
(Because this work is overseen by people in our small closed community, we run all tests on public accounts, as an example in the last link.)

If you are looking at some channels or are planning to give money to management, send these proposals to this topic and we will analyze them.

If you have an authorized and unused account with Binance Futures and are ready to provide API access to it for tests, please let me know!

I hope for useful content in the discussion of this topic. If you have personal questions, you can also ask them in telegrams @managerjey

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I am one person who doesn't believe in trading signals or trading signal VIP groups. Most if not all are just scam. It's better learning how to trade and then creating a strategy suitable for your trading style.

My logic is nobody who has a very good working strategy can waste time looking for people in telegram to buy his signals for just $50, yet he can make way a lot of money by just concentrating on his strategy using any capital he has rather than make it known to the public.

[sheenshane]

If you are looking at some channels or are planning to give money to management, send these proposals to this topic and we will analyze them.

Why not do it yourself instead to make a profit?

I tend to agree above, I didn't believe trading signals that offer services like this.  Because it has been proven that most of them are a scam or scamming their users.  Why not just try to prove yourself here with your trading signal if that has an accurate result?  Would you?

Even though that's paid or more worst if it's free, the result is the same.

[aliborn]

I am one person who doesn't believe in trading signals or trading signal VIP groups. Most if not all are just scam. It's better learning how to trade and then creating a strategy suitable for your trading style.

My logic is nobody who has a very good working strategy can waste time looking for people in telegram to buy his signals for just $50, yet he can make way a lot of money by just concentrating on his strategy using any capital he has rather than make it known to the public.

I am the one person who, knowing the strategy, cannot focus and get consistently good results.  And I also do not believe in anything other than statistics, double-checking the result, controlling risks.

 That is why the way that I described is effective for me.  It will not suit many and I do not impose it.

 And tell us what is a very good, working strategy? (I have my own answer, and this is extremely important for me, but it is useful for me to know the answers of other people, as this is one of the keys to success in trading)

[aliborn]

If you are looking at some channels or are planning to give money to management, send these proposals to this topic and we will analyze them.

Why not do it yourself instead to make a profit?

I tend to agree above, I didn't believe trading signals that offer services like this.  Because it has been proven that most of them are a scam or scamming their users.  Why not just try to prove yourself here with your trading signal if that has an accurate result?  Would you?

Even though that's paid or more worst if it's free, the result is the same.

What is "most of them"?  How many percent and from what number?  Where and by whom was this proven, can you link?

 It has been proven that most people want to live better and most people think in a stereotyped way 

[palle11]

I am one person who doesn't believe in trading signals or trading signal VIP groups. Most if not all are just scam. It's better learning how to trade and then creating a strategy suitable for your trading style.

This has worked for me alot of time and with that I don't look else. It has made me know that all depends on me on how I can be better in doing trading. Trading is not a magic, it takes consistent practice and you grow in knowledge

My logic is nobody who has a very good working strategy can waste time looking for people in telegram to buy his signals for just $50, yet he can make way a lot of money by just concentrating on his strategy using any capital he has rather than make it known to the public.

Yes if you are making profit in trading, you may not have that selfish zeal to want to open channels on telegram to get money in the believe to send signal for money rather you can do free signal.

[Oshosondy]

Yes if you are making profit in trading, you may not have that selfish zeal to want to open channels on telegram to get money in the believe to send signal for money rather you can do free signal.

I agree.

Even anyone can be a lead trader and people can copy his trade which is better than trading signals that can easily lead to scam. With being a copy trader and lead trader, a reputable company that is recommended by the exchange you are using can be used, instead of falling being a victim of scam from trading signal providers.

But not that I also believe in copy trading. I have a friend that told me he copied a lead trader that first make profit but later lost until my friend got no money to trade again.

I believe in myself and to trade myself.

[palle11]

But not that I also believe in copy trading. I have a friend that told me he copied a lead trader that first make profit but later lost until my friend got no money to trade again.

Copy trading is not a guarantee for profit making in trading. You can lose all your capital if the lead trader is not making profit. It is just a normal trader and you copy when the trader's order triggers but you know as some say only 5% of traders profit, this tells you then that more traders lose than they profit.

I believe in myself and to trade myself.

And that is the best. No need to panic. It doesn't matter how many times you fall but what matters what you learn when you fall.

[GeorgeJohn]

I am one person who doesn't believe in trading signals or trading signal VIP groups. Most if not all are just scam. It's better learning how to trade and then creating a strategy suitable for your trading style.

Many people doesn't understand the concept you made via the emphaises of, i do understand majority of people prefer taking signal of trading from people instead to look for the possible way of learning trading on their own.and secondly learning of trading as a beginner supposed to start by understanding the market chart, because chart is basics thing someone who wants to understand trading have to understand first.

[Oshosondy]

because chart is basics thing someone who wants to understand trading have to understand first.

Knowing charts without having a strategy is still a failure, what is most important in trading are the strategies that you are using, but knowing chart, understanding it is very good, while indicators are very important to predict what the market could be in some minutes, hours or days to come. Charts are not hard to understand, but not having the right strategy could be what a trader can suffer from, leading to more losses than profit.

[palle11]

because chart is basics thing someone who wants to understand trading have to understand first.

Knowing charts without having a strategy is still a failure, what is most important in trading are the strategies that you are using, but knowing chart, understanding it is very good, while indicators are very important to predict what the market could be in some minutes, hours or days to come. Charts are not hard to understand, but not having the right strategy could be what a trader can suffer from, leading to more losses than profit.

Chart is basic no doubt but it works directly with indicators. Therefore to understand your chart it means you have an understanding of the indicators that you are using to analyse the chart, so it can be easy or not easy but trading isn't easy if you have not taken care of the emotions. Life trading and practice or mere flipping through of trading history are not the same. If you don't understand your strategy then you can't analyse your chart with the indicators.

[aliborn]

The same signals for one person may be suitable, for another not.

Here is an example:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1buax3is33yNXXdgVaY-MGw6Lq-yZ23rOGinBkJkVhvg/edit#gid=0

Perhaps, if you use the search for market entries with a stop of 3% and takes from 30% or more, or add a position as you make a profit, then even such statistics will bring you profit based on only three plus trades with a take of 30-130%.

While my strategy with automatic trading requires at least 40% profitable trades with a drawdown of up to 2% and a take of 3% (the general scheme is that there should be 1% profit for 3 trades) I don’t care where these signals come from, the main thing is positive statistics at a distance of 200 transactions and diversification with the control of current statistics.

Now for the facts. To check such statistics from the telegram channel, I need about an hour and a half of time, a person who does not have experience in such work will spend about 3 hours. All of you have seen the signals in telegrams, almost everyone says that this is a fraud, and which of you did the analysis of statistics in a similar way in order to understand whether it suits your strategy or not?

[GeorgeJohn]

because chart is basics thing someone who wants to understand trading have to understand first.

Knowing charts without having a strategy is still a failure, what is most important in trading are the strategies that you are using, but knowing chart, understanding it is very good, while indicators are very important to predict what the market could be in some minutes, hours or days to come. Charts are not hard to understand, but not having the right strategy could be what a trader can suffer from, leading to more losses than profit.

Chart is basic no doubt but it works directly with indicators. Therefore to understand your chart it means you have an understanding of the indicators that you are using to analyse the chart, so it can be easy or not easy but trading isn't easy if you have not taken care of the emotions. Life trading and practice or mere flipping through of trading history are not the same. If you don't understand your strategy then you can't analyse your chart with the indicators.

Anyone who knows chart interpretation supposed would have known indicator analysis, so that is the reason why we continue to be emphasizing directly to the learning the rudiments of trading and knowing the foundation of trading before venturing into it, i believe that trading is one of the major thing that we have to understand that it's disadvantages is higher than the advantages.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I am the one person who, knowing the strategy, cannot focus and get consistently good results.  And I also do not believe in anything other than statistics, double-checking the result, controlling risks.

Then I bet you need to pull your socks up  

Obviously, I haven't come across a strategy that has 100% win rate eevn with backtesting. Risk Management is key, but I will never be fooled into buying "already made signals"
if the signals are working, then why are they selling them?  it's just common sense

This all is similar to the match fixing tip scam that so many gullible people fall for in gambling.

And tell us what is a very good, working strategy? (I have my own answer, and this is extremely important for me, but it is useful for me to know the answers of other people, as this is one of the keys to success in trading)

Nobody genuine will tell you a good working strategy, especially if you are an internet stranger. I have a good strategy that is suited for my trading style that has been working for a while, but I need to automate it as I have been missing lots of entries.

[Adbitco]

@Bitcoin_Arena Despite how they said of trading signals I don't give shit attention to it because non of it absolutely reliable maybe you could gain 30 percent of using it but needed more wisdom to be able to handle such thing otherwise you might lose the little you have already accumulated by self trade signal than that of others.

[Oshosondy]

Anyone who knows chart interpretation supposed would have known indicator analysis, so that is the reason why we continue to be emphasizing directly to the learning the rudiments of trading and knowing the foundation of trading before venturing into it, i believe that trading is one of the major thing that we have to understand that it's disadvantages is higher than the advantages.

Charts first, then followed by learning about indicators. I learned chart, I started trading, failed before I learn indicators.

Charts and indicators are not the same. What contain in the charts are open, high, low and close price at a particular period of time, it may also contain other information like number of transactions and volume etc. But indicators are primary ones like MA, EMA and BB, or secondary ones like RSI and other oscillating indicators.

It is easy for traders to learn and know chart within little period of time, it may be not be hard to learn and know about indicators too, but harder than learning chart and it take longer time to learn than chart.

[aliborn]

I have a good strategy that is suited for my trading style that has been working for a while, but I need to automate it as I have been missing lots of entries

It's not a big problem that can give a big result.  For about $300, you can easily find a freelancer who will make either a notification in Telegram or a Tradingview or an automated system for the exchange according to your assignment (this may be more expensive).

[aliborn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LWXl-VKuC5TODdSxG2zN9wewBBgCahGQl58L4QtBZnE/edit#gid=0 Good results, Rose Paid Crypto!

23 trades half plus, risk to reward ratio - OK.

Stop 2%, take profit 4%, total result 26% profit.

If anyone needs access to signals from a paid channel, write in a personal

[aliborn]

https://www.equite.io/ru/BKD6rOI5Mg

One of the channels with online results monitoring connected