Auto-correct will improve communication on BTT

[Zilon]

I don't know if a thread similar to this has been created in the past. I did check but did not find any, so I had to bring it up.  It is not enough having ideas, communicating them in a manner the reader will understand and comprehend can be a bit challenging.

A script to autocorrect and making word suggestion will not only make conveying ideas easier, it will also improve the vocabularies of Bitcoin talkers. I know there are many websites that can improve one's writing and communication skills that I don't dispute, but learning can be done anywhere and with the increase in users improved communication can make the forum more outstanding.

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It is just like you want someone to bath for you and feed you when you are an adult already, do not forget that this is a forum, communicate in a way as very simple that you know others can understand you.

If you want to learn more about English, there are YouTube videos and articles that you can check online. You can use grammerly for suggestion of correct words and good English too.

[LoyceV]

If you want auto-correct, you should use it client-side. Server-side auto-correct is very close to censoring, which shouldn't happen.

Proofreading helps a lot too: Preview your post and read it again before you submit it.

[TheUltraElite]

Improving vocabulary should be done separately than posting on bitcointalk and getting auto-corrected.

I prefer correcting my own spelling mistakes by the dictionary prompt and I have always found the auto-correct feature to produce more problems than solve problems, leading to its halt on my phone.

Besides, the forum detectives have often used patterns in spelling mistakes as a method to track down alt accounts being run by the same person.

[Pmalek]

Spell check is already available in internet browsers and it works just fine. If you spell something wrong, it will get underlined in red. You can then go back to that word and make necessary changes. I don't see theymos introducing some type of scripts or software to autocorrect people. You, the person is supposed to make the final decision of what gets posted and not a machine. You can also use Grammarly to your advantage if you want to.

[isaac_clarke22]

...it will also improve the vocabularies of Bitcoin talkers...

For Windows users, I believe there is already an option in Windows Setting that enables text suggestions. I think Android default keyboard even has one of those features.
Like LoyceV mentioned, it should be in client-side instead. Having a script for that in the server would be unnecessary if it can be done by user themselves anyway.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

A script to autocorrect and making word suggestion will not only make conveying ideas easier, it will also improve the vocabularies of Bitcoin talkers. I know there are many websites that can improve one's writing and communication skills that I don't dispute, but learning can be done anywhere and with the increase in users improved communication can make the forum more outstanding.

There are many online tools even browser extensions too. Grammarly and such type of tools can help. You need to type there and once you are happy with the text then paste and post. Browser extensions are useful as free tools. Just install one of the extension it will do it's job.

I think browser itself has an option of auto-correct words or at-least it suggest when something is wrong.

[decodx]

I believe that auto-correct can make our work easier by correcting spelling and generating words to help us finish our own sentences. I like the idea of saving time and not worrying about any spelling errors while having a conversation with someone. But I am sure that many people would like to have this feature in their own devices. Auto-correct can be annoying for people who are not used to it or do not want the feature at all.

[electronicash]

auto correct will mess things up for it will write something else instead. grammerly corrects the sentences which is better even for the ginger fingers.

i don't see communication problem to be the worse in the forum.
there are just people that delivers the message differently and sometimes sarcasm is just not distinguished without emojis. the user just have to write longer explanations to be understood.

[Smartvirus]

Most devices comes with words suggestions and some even have a way to underline phrases that seems odd. The most you can to do is to have your device set to use the vocabulary of a particular nations dictionary to serve as default language. While typing, you'll continue to get pop-ups and that could help on the sideline other than having it directly on the site.
Also, having an autocorrect on the site could present some issues in the local boards aa native languages have no dictionary to it and by auto correcting, it changes the idea behind local board posting.

Proofreading helps a lot too: Preview your post and read it again before you submit it.

The most the forum has done to ensure you submit what is of intent is the preview. That's good enough to have an overview but, its rarely used by most and some aren't just native English speakers but still, you could try reading the errors right.

[PrivacyG]

Better express ideas your own way instead.  Using auto correct may change the meaning of a phrase.

English will be improved on the go anyway.  If someone does not understand certain words, they will not get better by shoving them randomly in between words.  All you need to hang around here is the very basic English vocabulary.

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[KingsDen]

This forum is a multi-lingal forum where different languages are used in different local boards. If you should implement auto correct in the forum, what happens to other the local languages?
Maybe different scripts would be run in different local boards based on their different languages. The effort doesn't worth it since this forum is not an English learning forum. It would be better to suggest that it should be made compulsory for every member of this forum to run a full node.

[TelolettOm]

Do you mean to provide an auto-correct feature in this forum?
It may be good to improve instantly the bitcointalk members' writing procedures but it makes them lazy to learn.
So, I don't think it is a good idea to apply, it possibly brings negative impacts to the members of this forum.

If someone wants to have the feature of auto-correct, we actually can use Grammarly. It is free, we only need to install it in our browser. But I suggest not using this forever, just making it as an additional tool to help us in writing during we are learning. Then, we mustn't rely on it again if we think we already have enough skills or knowledge in writing English.

Anyway, this tool won't increase the post quality, it only helps us to have correct writing procedures.

[NdaMk]

Your sense of communication is something that is peculiar to you only. A word you feel you understand might not be understood by the person you’re passing by the message to actually, but no matter what, there’s this sense of communication between the two parties even though not properly understood. Everyone should be entitled to his/her comment in the forum on how they feel to write and pass the message but passing an easily to be understood message is more important. Let autocorrect not be introduced here, everyone should have their persona autocorrect I’ve suggested.

[Welsh]

I don't need to be all wordy durdy to get my point across. Also, I absolutely despise any sort of auto correction, especially any that connect server side, and therefore potentially collecting data to learn your personal dictionary.

However, going back to my original point; We don't need forum users to expand their vocabulary, we just need effort. That's all really. Plus, I'd wager that most users have a dictionary on their system that can auto correct for them. All the most popular browsers ship with it by default.

[drwhobox]

Auto correction improves spelling and vocabulary or typing mistakes but overusing those auto-correction apps or scripts can be bad. It is going to make anyone lazy, and most importantly, it forces you to make mistakes because you depend on it to correct the mistakes for you. You will not want to write down correct sentences by yourself.

I used Grammarly, but now I only use it on my phone, not on my computer. When you start using this type of application, you will see its bad effects.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Well, I'd say -- something like an auto-correct -- the type he proposed would be helpful though but -- at the same time -- I think it's not a necessity as Theymos has alot of priorities on his waiting list.
Every smart phone/tab should have an auto-correct initialized in it keyboard right? (Incase you're using one), otherwise grammerly should be a nice take....like me, I don't really get stressed out when typing an idea that's formulated already; I'd just have to vet 'em properly to avoid UNUSUAL typos. Vacab-builder does a good job anyways -- the hardest part anyone would wish to conquer everytime is "proving, arguing, illustrating a point, an idea -- where and when it's necessary.

I'd bet that -- that's simply the truth behind these pin-drop silence from 'em clodpolls lately... lmao, that ain't derogatory though but "you" ...(C'monnnn, when I said YOU, it meant everyone that got some stress with the topic in question) so YOU gotta learn up; stick to the proceed and never forget that learning is a process

Sandra 🧑

[libert19]

Nah, might as well bring every Internet feature on bitcointalk.

[Agbe]

Detecting spelling and grammatical error is already in most or if not in all browsing smart phones to help users to correct themselves and build their vocabularies. That is once you type the first alphabet, there would be a different suggestions of words and if the one you are looking for is on the option then you just click it. That is also an auto-correct.
And one thing you have to know is that, if you want to build your vocabulary, make research, navigate the internet, you will learn more than the auto-correct system.

[Mpamaegbu]

Wait until computer/keyboard makes an autocorrect of your words that changes the word completely from what it's intended and gets you into trouble with a boss. Until it happens, you won't know there's another side of explanation to needless content. Again, form the habit of always previewing your comments before hitting the post tab like LoyceV added. Every wrongly spelt word has a red underline (even on phone) and that should alert you to make corrections.

[Findingnemo]

I don't know if a thread similar to this has been created in the past. I did check but did not find any, so I had to bring it up.  It is not enough having ideas, communicating them in a manner the reader will understand and comprehend can be a bit challenging.

A script to autocorrect and making word suggestion will not only make conveying ideas easier, it will also improve the vocabularies of Bitcoin talkers. I know there are many websites that can improve one's writing and communication skills that I don't dispute, but learning can be done anywhere and with the increase in users improved communication can make the forum more outstanding.

You mean something like grammarly premium version? Which will make the sentence we right with corrections in various aspects but this is may encourage the bots to spam more.

And also its clearly mentioned that main boards should be discussed in English but it doesn't mean it has to be perfect with sentence making, its okay as long as others can read and understand.

[fortunecrypto]

I don't know if a thread similar to this has been created in the past. I did check but did not find any, so I had to bring it up.  It is not enough having ideas, communicating them in a manner the reader will understand and comprehend can be a bit challenging.

A script to autocorrect and making word suggestion will not only make conveying ideas easier, it will also improve the vocabularies of Bitcoin talkers. I know there are many websites that can improve one's writing and communication skills that I don't dispute, but learning can be done anywhere and with the increase in users improved communication can make the forum more outstanding.

You mean something like grammarly premium version? Which will make the sentence we right with corrections in various aspects but this is may encourage the bots to spam more.

And also its clearly mentioned that main boards should be discussed in English but it doesn't mean it has to be perfect with sentence making, its okay as long as others can read and understand.

Even a free version is good enough to use, and if you combined it with the Brave browser it can help you configure the messages that you want to get across, the most important thing is to proofread it and take your time, there are words that you can replace and by reading your post at least three times some words will pop up in your mind that will look good and make your post more readable and easily understood by readers.

[Despairo]

I hope this forum will not implemented this idea since auto correct is suck, sometime you will be mad when the bot wrongly auto correct your words and you need to go back to delete it, then type it again. Actually this forum already has basic word correction, when you type a wrong word, your words will get red underline. But sometime it's not entirely wrong since this forum adopt British language.

If you type color, there's no red underline.

If you type colour, there's a red underline, while it's not wrong since the meaning is same.

[Welsh]

if you combined it with the Brave browser it can help you configure the messages that you want to get across

I've avoided Brave like the plague, but what does it allow you to do exactly? I'm not sure what you mean with the above. Does Brave offer additional functionality for sentence structuring? I know most browsers have a built in dictionary, which you can disable on a few of them if you want. I prefer Firefox with a modified user.js, and some policy overrides, personally which I tend to disable most telemetry, and privacy invasive settings. Firefox is also one of the better browsers out there for security, and privacy. Even though, I know Brave claims to be.

[dkbit98]

I don't know if a thread similar to this has been created in the past. I did check but did not find any, so I had to bring it up.  It is not enough having ideas, communicating them in a manner the reader will understand and comprehend can be a bit challenging.

I think that you can enable this option on your web browser with settings or with adding custom script/extension if you want extra customization.
Correcting mistakes is fine, but I don't want to see constant suggestions to change words into something else while I write a post.
If you are not a native English speaker than it's normal to have mistakes in your text, and no amount of auto-correction will fix this.

[drwhobox]

I hope this forum will not implemented this idea since auto correct is suck, sometime you will be mad when the bot wrongly auto correct your words and you need to go back to delete it, then type it again. Actually this forum already has basic word correction, when you type a wrong word, your words will get red underline. But sometime it's not entirely wrong since this forum adopt British language.

If you type color, there's no red underline.

If you type colour, there's a red underline, while it's not wrong since the meaning is same.

Yes, it's all about the meaning. We are not here to judge anyone for their English. Most of us are not native English speakers. Surprisingly you detect something I am unaware of, this forum actually adopted British English which is fine, but why is there a red line under colour when it is also the correct spelling? Maybe something changed in the global dictionary.

[Oshosondy]

Yes, it's all about the meaning. We are not here to judge anyone for their English. Most of us are not native English speakers. Surprisingly you detect something I am unaware of, this forum actually adopted British English which is fine, but why is there a red line under colour when it is also the correct spelling? Maybe something changed in the global dictionary.

When I first registered, most of my post were written in American English, later I changed it to British and I use both American and British English together. If it is Australian English you can speak and write, you are welcome to this forum, even if it is Indian English, only what that matters is that when you speak and write English, can a native speaking English person understand you, if they can, you are welcome. Some people complained of my English, but they still understood me and my account grows, that is just true that we do not have to know the 100% of English like someone that is native English speaking person before we make progress on this forum.

[Pmalek]

When I first registered, most of my post were written in American English, later I changed it to British and I use both American and British English together. If it is Australian English you can speak and write, you are welcome to this forum, even if it is Indian English, only what that matters is that when you speak and write English, can a native speaking English person understand you, if they can, you are welcome. Some people complained of my English, but they still understood me and my account grows.

Since you aren't native to either of those two language variants, I assume you just configured whatever software or tool you used to either US or the UK style of spelling. There aren't that many differences in the spelling that someone not familiar with the two languages would recognize. But if you were a native speaker of either one, you couldn't just change overnight and adopt a completely different style of writing and expressing yourself.

[Oshosondy]

Since you aren't native to either of those two language variants, I assume you just configured whatever software or tool you used to either US or the UK style of spelling. There aren't that many differences in the spelling that someone not familiar with the two languages would recognize. But if you were a native speaker of either one, you couldn't just change overnight and adopt a completely different style of writing and expressing yourself.

British colonized my country, we learn in British Englsih. In English during schools days, we were thought American English too, just how the words are different. In second school final exam, both are accepted. Even as we were taught in British English, most of the foreign Englsih movies are American movies, subtitled in American English.

Why should I use any tool or software to write English when I can communicate with English people and they will understand what I am saying and I understand what they are saying. Just that I know they are perfectly speaking it better than me, but we understand ourselves. That is how it is on this forum too. I even know how some pronunciation like schedule, gruel and many other words are pronounced differently in the two countries, also how some words are different like biscuits and groundnuts are called cookies and peanuts in America

I do no need a tool to post on a forum 

[drwhobox]

Yes, it's all about the meaning. We are not here to judge anyone for their English. Most of us are not native English speakers. Surprisingly you detect something I am unaware of, this forum actually adopted British English which is fine, but why is there a red line under colour when it is also the correct spelling? Maybe something changed in the global dictionary.

When I first registered, most of my post were written in American English, later I changed it to British and I use both American and British English together. If it is Australian English you can speak and write, you are welcome to this forum, even if it is Indian English, only what that matters is that when you speak and write English, can a native speaking English person understand you, if they can, you are welcome. Some people complained of my English, but they still understood me and my account grows, that is just true that we do not have to know the 100% of English like someone that is native English speaking person before we make progress on this forum.

As long as your English is understandable, your account will grow because if you are producing value, it doesn't matter which English you are using. It is more or less the same while writing British or American English, but while speaking, it does affect the listeners to understand the different accents.

[agustina2]

Is there a specific thread/s you found where the discussion becomes messy or on a considered low-tier level of communication because of language problems?

For that specific purpose, the forum isn't the one that needed to do the adjustments for the users. Instead, users are the ones who should adjust.

Besides, if that user didn't know well the exact word to be used, how can they even tell if the suggested word is right? It's better to just try their best to tell us what they are trying to say since as long as the key component of what they are trying to post is there, we should at least able to understand it.

That's not even a big issue here even before so better to just keep it that way.

[NeuroticFish]

Imho autocorrect can do more bad than good. You can end up with a correct word, but not the correct one you wanted to use.
On the other hand, as Agbe also said, the modern browsers have, in a way or another, spellchecker integrated or available as plugin. And not only on smartphones. Red underlined words attract attention and help people improve on long term. This should be much more helpful than auto-suggestion or auto-correct.

A problem is the over-using of such tools too. I have a bad example, mine: I have spellchecker now set up for 3 languages and I can easily mistake and use sometimes a word from another language. But I think that this problem is a minor one compared with the huge amount of awfully written posts.

[SmartGold01]

Yeah this is good suggestions but a user or typist who often uses his pc to browse or login your btt account there some browsers that may quickly solve that for you alternatively before you hit enter the submit button you may used google to crosscheck your English if actually is what you meant of writing before submitting it. Sincerely speaking most times i do use my google to check the meaning before i hit the submit i think you could that as well. anything other than you may used the search function at the home section to look for any other thing you are searching here. 

[CryptoPanda]

Where’s the fun in that lol…this is a bitcoin forum not a English language lecture house. There’s a reason we have the local boards. And I don’t think we don’t need perfect grammar to learn and discuss bitcoin. If this idea was implemented, how do you propose we would have had the famous “hodl” slang come to pass. No matter how drunk that guy was, the autocorrect feature would have interpreted the world as “hold”, my keyboard still underlines the spelling as incorrect every-time. My point is we shouldn’t try to control everything, there should be room for mistakes and improvement.

[Z-tight]

I have not observed immoderate communication problem in bitcointalk, to be honest i understand almost everything i read in the forum, i understand that you can see a post sometimes that was not constructed well, but understanding is still not impaired, the good thing is that many of those members that i observed had issues with their construction many months ago have now improved and are doing better, i believe they made effort to write in a better way, and it will aid them not only in the forum, but outside of it. Members who don't try to put effort into their communication skills are those that create shitposts and post in boards that good users don't read in or even care about.

[avp2306]

There is existing auto correct feature on your phone which you can turn on if you want to have auto correction on text you want to type also you can do it on your pc to make sure your spelling on what you are writing is right.

But this suggestion is not really necessary since language is global language and as long as you can understand what people telling you regarding whatever topic it is you can communicate with everyone here.

And communication is so fine here we can talk any topic and understand each other, maybe we have different views on certain topics but we can understand what's the point on the topic created by certain forum users.

[LTU_btc]

Why do you want to make things so complicated? Can you at name me at least one website which have their own autocorrect script? How Bitcointalk is so special that it need to have it?
I think that such thing would make more harm than good. We all know how sometimes autoccrect replace words that it change meaning of whole sentence. This is why I always have autocorrect disabled. These who want can use spellcheckers on PC/mobile browsers. Google keyboard also have good feature where it try to predict word that you write and shows correct spelling of it.
But after all, is itspelling mistakes is such big problem here? Will you fail to understand my mind if I will miss one letter in word? I don't think that's such big deal. I think it's bigger problem when people not fluent in English struggling to express themselves that people would understand them.

[NotATether]

A script to autocorrect and making word suggestion will not only make conveying ideas easier, it will also improve the vocabularies of Bitcoin talkers. I know there are many websites that can improve one's writing and communication skills that I don't dispute, but learning can be done anywhere and with the increase in users improved communication can make the forum more outstanding.

Autocorrect won't help. At the very least, it is too dumb to understand how to spell Bitcoin keywords and will keep autocorrecting them to gibberish. And the "AI-enhanced" autocorrects (edit: in your phone of course) will actuslly just suggest any word you have used frequently when you type a similar one. Autocorrect has been a blight for me, and only reason I leave it on is that without it, there would be even more  adjacent-character errors (the only thing autocorrect is actually good at correcting).

[Davidvictorson]

Auto-correct or predictive text is good but do you know what's better - proof-reading, previewing, and editing. These take a lot mental work and effort. Auto-correct makes us lazy and I have the believe that when we use auto-correct or predictive text so much, the part of our brain that helps us to write and spell correctly becomes atrophied. I doubt that forums can incorporate that . If you need auto-correct when writing, I would recommend that you consider using Grammarly, Word Counter, Microsftword etc.

[Ryker1]

Well I admit it --autocorrect is very helpful or a suggested text that you can find on your mobile phone or install in the browser that you have used like Grammarly. It can correct spelling, grammar --or even the auto-capital letter after you use the ^[period] in a sentence.
In a forum like this or even everywhere that you can use it as long as it uses a global language which is English. I don't see anything wrong if you will use it, especially if the English language is not your mother language. But before submitting a post just always click ^[preview] and edit when it is necessary, edit if there is an awkward to read.

[hugeblack]

If you do not have porridge and want to improve the quality of the responses, then make it a Self-moderated topic, then the person will think twice before posting, otherwise he will waste his time writing the post.
Your solution is good, but if the person's purpose of spam is quick profit, he will not be bothered by the quality of the posts or writing them well.

[NotATether]

If you do not have porridge

I'm pretty sure this proves my point about mobile autocorrect messing up posts.

Maybe if it were paired with some AI like GPT (not some silly toy that fits in a single ARM microprocessor) then it would be less buggy. But I haven't seen any service like that yet.

[Myleschetty]

Adding an auto-correct features to this forum will be a waste of time and effort since there's already some third party site where people can easily make use of auto-correct. Besides, I have never seen a forum that has its own auto-correct script.

[Peanutswar]

In most of the updates today once you click into a text field there's an auto-correction which is ideal some of the users too preferred having a word file and use a web base grammar checker too, but I didn't use that instead I'm using with the Grammarly extension for correction of the text and its less hassle than let the dev make it for additional features.

Code:

https://app.grammarly.com/

[kamvreto]

If you want auto-correct, you should use it client-side. Server-side auto-correct is very close to censoring, which shouldn't happen.

While bitcointalk will never censor comments made, it goes against the freedom bitcointalk provides. Censorship only occurs in fully regulated types of forums or social media. In the case of censorship, profanities may be replaced with Asterisks, etc LOL.

Proofreading helps a lot too: Preview your post and read it again before you submit it.

The post preview that has been provided is helpful enough to do a review once again before publishing it.

Auto-correction only exists on client-side applications and will never be implemented on bitcointalk servers.

[Majestic-milf]

 Well, it's a thoughtful idea if you ask me, but then not do necessary. Just like the others have pointed, it would only add to the mountain of tasks Theymos would have to look into, and personally I think we should give him all a break. Stick with the Grammerly or previewing of posts and I think we'll all be good.