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December 06, 2022, 08:18:25 AM
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I don't know if a thread similar to this has been created in the past. I did check but did not find any, so I had to bring it up.  It is not enough having ideas, communicating them in a manner the reader will understand and comprehend can be a bit challenging.

A script to autocorrect and making word suggestion will not only make conveying ideas easier, it will also improve the vocabularies of Bitcoin talkers. I know there are many websites that can improve one's writing and communication skills that I don't dispute, but learning can be done anywhere and with the increase in users improved communication can make the forum more outstanding.

You mean something like grammarly premium version? Which will make the sentence we right with corrections in various aspects but this is may encourage the bots to spam more.

And also its clearly mentioned that main boards should be discussed in English but it doesn't mean it has to be perfect with sentence making, its okay as long as others can read and understand.

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December 06, 2022, 03:55:19 PM
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I don't know if a thread similar to this has been created in the past. I did check but did not find any, so I had to bring it up.  It is not enough having ideas, communicating them in a manner the reader will understand and comprehend can be a bit challenging.

A script to autocorrect and making word suggestion will not only make conveying ideas easier, it will also improve the vocabularies of Bitcoin talkers. I know there are many websites that can improve one's writing and communication skills that I don't dispute, but learning can be done anywhere and with the increase in users improved communication can make the forum more outstanding.

You mean something like grammarly premium version? Which will make the sentence we right with corrections in various aspects but this is may encourage the bots to spam more.

And also its clearly mentioned that main boards should be discussed in English but it doesn't mean it has to be perfect with sentence making, its okay as long as others can read and understand.

Even a free version is good enough to use, and if you combined it with the Brave browser it can help you configure the messages that you want to get across, the most important thing is to proofread it and take your time, there are words that you can replace and by reading your post at least three times some words will pop up in your mind that will look good and make your post more readable and easily understood by readers.

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December 06, 2022, 04:07:42 PM
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I hope this forum will not implemented this idea since auto correct is suck, sometime you will be mad when the bot wrongly auto correct your words and you need to go back to delete it, then type it again. Actually this forum already has basic word correction, when you type a wrong word, your words will get red underline. But sometime it's not entirely wrong since this forum adopt British language.

If you type color, there's no red underline.

If you type colour, there's a red underline, while it's not wrong since the meaning is same.
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December 06, 2022, 04:37:50 PM
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if you combined it with the Brave browser it can help you configure the messages that you want to get across
I've avoided Brave like the plague, but what does it allow you to do exactly? I'm not sure what you mean with the above. Does Brave offer additional functionality for sentence structuring? I know most browsers have a built in dictionary, which you can disable on a few of them if you want. I prefer Firefox with a modified user.js, and some policy overrides, personally which I tend to disable most telemetry, and privacy invasive settings. Firefox is also one of the better browsers out there for security, and privacy. Even though, I know Brave claims to be.
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I don't know if a thread similar to this has been created in the past. I did check but did not find any, so I had to bring it up.  It is not enough having ideas, communicating them in a manner the reader will understand and comprehend can be a bit challenging.
I think that you can enable this option on your web browser with settings or with adding custom script/extension if you want extra customization.
Correcting mistakes is fine, but I don't want to see constant suggestions to change words into something else while I write a post.
If you are not a native English speaker than it's normal to have mistakes in your text, and no amount of auto-correction will fix this.

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December 06, 2022, 10:16:27 PM
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I hope this forum will not implemented this idea since auto correct is suck, sometime you will be mad when the bot wrongly auto correct your words and you need to go back to delete it, then type it again. Actually this forum already has basic word correction, when you type a wrong word, your words will get red underline. But sometime it's not entirely wrong since this forum adopt British language.

If you type color, there's no red underline.

If you type colour, there's a red underline, while it's not wrong since the meaning is same.

Yes, it's all about the meaning. We are not here to judge anyone for their English. Most of us are not native English speakers. Surprisingly you detect something I am unaware of, this forum actually adopted British English which is fine, but why is there a red line under colour when it is also the correct spelling? Maybe something changed in the global dictionary.
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December 07, 2022, 10:44:56 AM
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Yes, it's all about the meaning. We are not here to judge anyone for their English. Most of us are not native English speakers. Surprisingly you detect something I am unaware of, this forum actually adopted British English which is fine, but why is there a red line under colour when it is also the correct spelling? Maybe something changed in the global dictionary.
When I first registered, most of my post were written in American English, later I changed it to British and I use both American and British English together. If it is Australian English you can speak and write, you are welcome to this forum, even if it is Indian English, only what that matters is that when you speak and write English, can a native speaking English person understand you, if they can, you are welcome. Some people complained of my English, but they still understood me and my account grows, that is just true that we do not have to know the 100% of English like someone that is native English speaking person before we make progress on this forum.

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When I first registered, most of my post were written in American English, later I changed it to British and I use both American and British English together. If it is Australian English you can speak and write, you are welcome to this forum, even if it is Indian English, only what that matters is that when you speak and write English, can a native speaking English person understand you, if they can, you are welcome. Some people complained of my English, but they still understood me and my account grows.
Since you aren't native to either of those two language variants, I assume you just configured whatever software or tool you used to either US or the UK style of spelling. There aren't that many differences in the spelling that someone not familiar with the two languages would recognize. But if you were a native speaker of either one, you couldn't just change overnight and adopt a completely different style of writing and expressing yourself.

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Since you aren't native to either of those two language variants, I assume you just configured whatever software or tool you used to either US or the UK style of spelling. There aren't that many differences in the spelling that someone not familiar with the two languages would recognize. But if you were a native speaker of either one, you couldn't just change overnight and adopt a completely different style of writing and expressing yourself.
British colonized my country, we learn in British Englsih. In English during schools days, we were thought American English too, just how the words are different. In second school final exam, both are accepted. Even as we were taught in British English, most of the foreign Englsih movies are American movies, subtitled in American English.

Why should I use any tool or software to write English when I can communicate with English people and they will understand what I am saying and I understand what they are saying. Just that I know they are perfectly speaking it better than me, but we understand ourselves. That is how it is on this forum too. I even know how some pronunciation like schedule, gruel and many other words are pronounced differently in the two countries, also how some words are different like biscuits and groundnuts are called cookies and peanuts in America

I do no need a tool to post on a forum  Grin

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Yes, it's all about the meaning. We are not here to judge anyone for their English. Most of us are not native English speakers. Surprisingly you detect something I am unaware of, this forum actually adopted British English which is fine, but why is there a red line under colour when it is also the correct spelling? Maybe something changed in the global dictionary.
When I first registered, most of my post were written in American English, later I changed it to British and I use both American and British English together. If it is Australian English you can speak and write, you are welcome to this forum, even if it is Indian English, only what that matters is that when you speak and write English, can a native speaking English person understand you, if they can, you are welcome. Some people complained of my English, but they still understood me and my account grows, that is just true that we do not have to know the 100% of English like someone that is native English speaking person before we make progress on this forum.

As long as your English is understandable, your account will grow because if you are producing value, it doesn't matter which English you are using. It is more or less the same while writing British or American English, but while speaking, it does affect the listeners to understand the different accents.
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Is there a specific thread/s you found where the discussion becomes messy or on a considered low-tier level of communication because of language problems?

For that specific purpose, the forum isn't the one that needed to do the adjustments for the users. Instead, users are the ones who should adjust.

Besides, if that user didn't know well the exact word to be used, how can they even tell if the suggested word is right? It's better to just try their best to tell us what they are trying to say since as long as the key component of what they are trying to post is there, we should at least able to understand it.

That's not even a big issue here even before so better to just keep it that way. Smiley
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Imho autocorrect can do more bad than good. You can end up with a correct word, but not the correct one you wanted to use.
On the other hand, as Agbe also said, the modern browsers have, in a way or another, spellchecker integrated or available as plugin. And not only on smartphones. Red underlined words attract attention and help people improve on long term. This should be much more helpful than auto-suggestion or auto-correct.

A problem is the over-using of such tools too. I have a bad example, mine: I have spellchecker now set up for 3 languages and I can easily mistake and use sometimes a word from another language. But I think that this problem is a minor one compared with the huge amount of awfully written posts.

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December 07, 2022, 06:38:55 PM
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Yeah this is good suggestions but a user or typist who often uses his pc to browse or login your btt account there some browsers that may quickly solve that for you alternatively before you hit enter the submit button you may used google to crosscheck your English if actually is what you meant of writing before submitting it. Sincerely speaking most times i do use my google to check the meaning before i hit the submit i think you could that as well. anything other than you may used the search function at the home section to look for any other thing you are searching here. 

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December 07, 2022, 07:18:32 PM
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Where’s the fun in that lol…this is a bitcoin forum not a English language lecture house. There’s a reason we have the local boards. And I don’t think we don’t need perfect grammar to learn and discuss bitcoin. If this idea was implemented, how do you propose we would have had the famous “hodl” slang come to pass. No matter how drunk that guy was, the autocorrect feature would have interpreted the world as “hold”, my keyboard still underlines the spelling as incorrect every-time. My point is we shouldn’t try to control everything, there should be room for mistakes and improvement.
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I have not observed immoderate communication problem in bitcointalk, to be honest i understand almost everything i read in the forum, i understand that you can see a post sometimes that was not constructed well, but understanding is still not impaired, the good thing is that many of those members that i observed had issues with their construction many months ago have now improved and are doing better, i believe they made effort to write in a better way, and it will aid them not only in the forum, but outside of it. Members who don't try to put effort into their communication skills are those that create shitposts and post in boards that good users don't read in or even care about.

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December 07, 2022, 11:55:06 PM
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There is existing auto correct feature on your phone which you can turn on if you want to have auto correction on text you want to type also you can do it on your pc to make sure your spelling on what you are writing is right.

But this suggestion is not really necessary since language is global language and as long as you can understand what people telling you regarding whatever topic it is you can communicate with everyone here.

And communication is so fine here we can talk any topic and understand each other, maybe we have different views on certain topics but we can understand what's the point on the topic created by certain forum users.

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December 07, 2022, 11:59:04 PM
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Why do you want to make things so complicated? Can you at name me at least one website which have their own autocorrect script? How Bitcointalk is so special that it need to have it?
I think that such thing would make more harm than good. We all know how sometimes autoccrect replace words that it change meaning of whole sentence. This is why I always have autocorrect disabled. These who want can use spellcheckers on PC/mobile browsers. Google keyboard also have good feature where it try to predict word that you write and shows correct spelling of it.
But after all, is itspelling mistakes is such big problem here? Will you fail to understand my mind if I will miss one letter in word? I don't think that's such big deal. I think it's bigger problem when people not fluent in English struggling to express themselves that people would understand them.

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Last edit: December 08, 2022, 06:38:29 PM by NotATether
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A script to autocorrect and making word suggestion will not only make conveying ideas easier, it will also improve the vocabularies of Bitcoin talkers. I know there are many websites that can improve one's writing and communication skills that I don't dispute, but learning can be done anywhere and with the increase in users improved communication can make the forum more outstanding.

Autocorrect won't help. At the very least, it is too dumb to understand how to spell Bitcoin keywords and will keep autocorrecting them to gibberish. And the "AI-enhanced" autocorrects (edit: in your phone of course) will actuslly just suggest any word you have used frequently when you type a similar one. Autocorrect has been a blight for me, and only reason I leave it on is that without it, there would be even more  adjacent-character errors (the only thing autocorrect is actually good at correcting).

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Auto-correct or predictive text is good but do you know what's better - proof-reading, previewing, and editing. These take a lot mental work and effort. Auto-correct makes us lazy and I have the believe that when we use auto-correct or predictive text so much, the part of our brain that helps us to write and spell correctly becomes atrophied. I doubt that forums can incorporate that . If you need auto-correct when writing, I would recommend that you consider using Grammarly, Word Counter, Microsftword etc.

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December 08, 2022, 03:28:42 PM
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Well I admit it --autocorrect is very helpful or a suggested text that you can find on your mobile phone or install in the browser that you have used like Grammarly. It can correct spelling, grammar --or even the auto-capital letter after you use the [period] in a sentence.
In a forum like this or even everywhere that you can use it as long as it uses a global language which is English. I don't see anything wrong if you will use it, especially if the English language is not your mother language. But before submitting a post just always click [preview] and edit when it is necessary, edit if there is an awkward to read.









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