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December 05, 2022, 09:40:36 PM
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I have been always curious about making money from games i love to play, since i was a little kid playing GTA games while there was no such live casinos and online betting i had this idea of what if there is a possibility of making money from playing.
We all know poker doesn’t require to be lucky as much as it requires you to be skilled to win, and even though we poker is still considered as gambling. I wish to know if these games such as FPS which you can put for example in a room of 10 players everyone puts 5 dollars and the winner takes the whole 50 dollars, Are considered as gambling.
And also if there’s any known and trusted website or casino that allows such games. I find them better than gambling and lucky games

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December 05, 2022, 09:57:31 PM
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I wish to know if these games such as FPS which you can put for example in a room of 10 players everyone puts 5 dollars and the winner takes the whole 50 dollars, Are considered as gambling.
That is gambling, but I do not know any gambling site that offers that. Even in evolution of gambling, that stage has been passed through in the past as people gathered and gamble for the winner to take the money won.

That is different from play-to-earn which I think is not profitable but having fake advertisments like download an app to play game, register to earn money, play more games and earn more money. But such things are waste of time and not gambling.

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December 05, 2022, 10:17:13 PM
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I wish to know if these games such as FPS which you can put for example in a room of 10 players everyone puts 5 dollars and the winner takes the whole 50 dollars, Are considered as gambling.
That is gambling, but I do not know any gambling site that offers that. Even in evolution of gambling, that stage has been passed through in the past as people gathered and gamble for the winner to take the money won.

That is different from play-to-earn which I think is not profitable but having fake advertisments like download an app to play game, register to earn money, play more games and earn more money. But such things are waste of time and not gambling.

that is true, if you will think of the time you will be wasting on those activities, you will understand that you can devote this to other worthwhile activities that you can really earn something. most of the time, the earnings is just like pennies. don't know if anyone can really earn significant amount of money from such tasks.

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December 05, 2022, 10:23:29 PM
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I have been always curious about making money from games i love to play, since i was a little kid playing GTA games while there was no such live casinos and online betting i had this idea of what if there is a possibility of making money from playing.
We all know poker doesn’t require to be lucky as much as it requires you to be skilled to win, and even though we poker is still considered as gambling. I wish to know if these games such as FPS which you can put for example in a room of 10 players everyone puts 5 dollars and the winner takes the whole 50 dollars, Are considered as gambling.
And also if there’s any known and trusted website or casino that allows such games. I find them better than gambling and lucky games

That can somehow be considered as gambling. You are already playing and risking something and expecting to win more than what you put in. You put in the time and effort in exchange of competing with other people for the same pot. That's considered gambling to me. At the least you are getting something off of the effort you are exerting and that is great. I tried considering doing these back in the day but unfortunately, I don't have the personality and skills to be successful.

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December 05, 2022, 10:26:47 PM
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I have been always curious about making money from games i love to play, since i was a little kid playing GTA games while there was no such live casinos and online betting i had this idea of what if there is a possibility of making money from playing.

If you put in money or invest and hope for a return that is not guaranteed then it's gambling this game you're playing is very similar to the project I'm playing its DPET I put in $150 to buy PET in the hope of making money out of it, unfortunately, after over a year I only made $40 I don't know if I can still regain my investment you could lose from this play to earn too.

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We all know poker doesn’t require to be lucky as much as it requires you to be skilled to win, and even though we poker is still considered as gambling. I wish to know if these games such as FPS which you can put for example in a room of 10 players everyone puts 5 dollars and the winner takes the whole 50 dollars, Are considered as gambling.


It's gambling if you put in money and you have to play each other for the pot and even though its a game of skill it still depends on luck it can be considered
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December 05, 2022, 10:35:07 PM
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I have been always curious about making money from games i love to play, since i was a little kid playing GTA games while there was no such live casinos and online betting i had this idea of what if there is a possibility of making money from playing.
We all know poker doesn’t require to be lucky as much as it requires you to be skilled to win, and even though we poker is still considered as gambling. I wish to know if these games such as FPS which you can put for example in a room of 10 players everyone puts 5 dollars and the winner takes the whole 50 dollars, Are considered as gambling.
And also if there’s any known and trusted website or casino that allows such games. I find them better than gambling and lucky games

Every game that involves money is considered gambling for me, so yeah, pay to earn could be in that category, that incentive is there in the end.

So in the example you put, FPS or First Person Shooter I will assume (correct me if I'm wrong), will have like a pot money and winner takes all, taking out the skills and luck, with money on the line, that is already the definition of gambling as there is money and there is incentive and the winner gets all the money.

 
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December 05, 2022, 10:41:08 PM
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Gambling can be done anywhere even though the game platform being played is a game that is far from gambling.
When some people put in 5 dollars for several missions that are done, the winner will get the pot that gets it is a type of gambling. In fact, not only in games, but on several other platforms, if there is such a system, it is also called gambling. However, it does not directly mention that the platform is gambling, because the activities carried out are included in the practice of gambling.
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December 05, 2022, 10:44:16 PM
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That's a gamble.

I've done that with my friends when we go from places to places just to play competitive games and have money on the line. That's normal for most of the games even in RPG games where there's PVP. I've seen people betting on who's the strongest.

Today, with most competitive games are online, it's easier to bet and have someone on their end that will just have to pay and sent the payment through online transfers or crypto, too easy to bet and play these days.

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I have been always curious about making money from games i love to play, since i was a little kid playing GTA games while there was no such live casinos and online betting i had this idea of what if there is a possibility of making money from playing.
We all know poker doesn’t require to be lucky as much as it requires you to be skilled to win, and even though we poker is still considered as gambling. I wish to know if these games such as FPS which you can put for example in a room of 10 players everyone puts 5 dollars and the winner takes the whole 50 dollars, Are considered as gambling.
And also if there’s any known and trusted website or casino that allows such games. I find them better than gambling and lucky games
That is without a doubt a form of gambling, even if it requires skill it still falls under the umbrella of gambling just as poker does, however I was not aware that people did that for a living, I know some people play MMORPGs and they farm items or gold, and if they have a character which is high enough level and the place where they reside has a low cost of living then they could make a living out of it if they grind for long enough each day or if they are lucky and get a godly item.
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December 05, 2022, 10:46:30 PM
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That is gambling, but I do not know any gambling site that offers that. Even in evolution of gambling, that stage has been passed through in the past as people gathered and gamble for the winner to take the money won.

That is different from play-to-earn which I think is not profitable but having fake advertisments like download an app to play game, register to earn money, play more games and earn more money. But such things are waste of time and not gambling.
Well yeah what you are talking about people in the past where they gamble on fights or horse racing which is available now online and well known more than what I’m looking for, i don’t see much games that are made to be played with such a plan of pay to earn
Play to earn games are a different story and such a waste of time and energy.

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December 05, 2022, 10:56:47 PM
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There is a lot of play to earn like the popular Axie Infinity and DPET you have to put in money and hope you employ a good strategy to make money so we can consider this gambling, you put in money that is like betting and you hope to beat your opponent or complete the obstacles in gambling that are trying to beat the house and there's no guarantee that you complete doing those task, so it's gambling.
You are not playing in a casino but all the elements are there like putting in money and hoping to win by doing tasks.

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This too a kind of gambling. Here you're playing against the players, whereas with caisnos you play against the system. Play to earn is different from the method thats been putforth. In village region people used to bet within themselves while playing cards. The process is the same, everyone contributes equally and the winner takes everything. For users who are addicted to gaming, could prefer play to earn because the player receive very small rewards for the time spent.

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Gambling is something that I know that I cannot be dependable on it because I know very well that gambling you can lose whatever thing you have in gambling you play so it is not something that you can make with someone to be doing any gambling is out of chance so I believe that and which is the information concerning gambling

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We all know poker doesn’t require to be lucky as much as it requires you to be skilled to win, and even though we poker is still considered as gambling. I wish to know if these games such as FPS which you can put for example in a room of 10 players everyone puts 5 dollars and the winner takes the whole 50 dollars, Are considered as gambling.
And also if there’s any known and trusted website or casino that allows such games. I find them better than gambling and lucky games

That is still considered gambling since you put money and expect to get the money from other players when you win. I think that is not profitable for a casino since there is so much needed to get that going. They need refs, the location where players can play. I think that is why no casino is picking that up. Casinos only pick up professional tournaments and they act as bookies where you can bet for your favorite teams. It will be very expensive for them to host the event themselves.

I suggest, if you really are good at FPS games, then try to be a professional gamer. Rank up and get noticed by professional groups. They pay higher and with a contract, you are secured. If you are playing since you were young, then you should be very adept by now and can be a professional gamer if you pursue it. If you think you do not have enough skill to be professional gamer, then another choice is to stream games and earn from it. As long as you are entertaining to watch, you can have followers in social media and other streaming platforms.
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December 05, 2022, 11:35:50 PM
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I wish to know if these games such as FPS which you can put for example in a room of 10 players everyone puts 5 dollars and the winner takes the whole 50 dollars, Are considered as gambling.

Obviously, it's gambling since you risk money on something for the expectation to win those pot money. 

You are basically competing against those other players in the room. "Winners take all" therefore you compete for it.

And also if there’s any known and trusted website or casino that allows such games. I find them better than gambling and lucky games

I think none. Maybe you can instead form a mini-tournament against your friends or those who played that game.

For example, in the famous game, 8-ball Pool, you can compete with your friends there or even form your own tournament with stake money.

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December 05, 2022, 11:44:38 PM
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I have been always curious about making money from games i love to play, since i was a little kid playing GTA games while there was no such live casinos and online betting i had this idea of what if there is a possibility of making money from playing.


I think you have the wrong title it should be Play To EARN and not pay to earn if it pays to earn then it's investing in an investment package or staking your money, we have a lot of play to earn projects but they are not played in casinos, they are stand-alone projects they are mostly blockchain games which is good for transparency

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This too a kind of gambling. Here you're playing against the players, whereas with caisnos you play against the system. Play to earn is different from the method thats been putforth. In village region people used to bet within themselves while playing cards. The process is the same, everyone contributes equally and the winner takes everything. For users who are addicted to gaming, could prefer play to earn because the player receive very small rewards for the time spent.
When we do speak about play to earn then this is something that do really attached with investment.We are really that fully aware about those defi's and nft games that we do have in the market which it could

potentially make you earn but of course you would be still needing to shell out some money for you to buy up a particular nft or something which could able to make you earn.

Gambling on the sense that you are putting up that risk which it is pertaining about community demand and interest and at the same time you wont know
on when rug pull does happen which there are couple of angles which you could really make your investment mess up.

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December 05, 2022, 11:54:30 PM
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I have been always curious about making money from games i love to play, since i was a little kid playing GTA games while there was no such live casinos and online betting i had this idea of what if there is a possibility of making money from playing.
We all know poker doesn’t require to be lucky as much as it requires you to be skilled to win, and even though we poker is still considered as gambling. I wish to know if these games such as FPS which you can put for example in a room of 10 players everyone puts 5 dollars and the winner takes the whole 50 dollars, Are considered as gambling.
And also if there’s any known and trusted website or casino that allows such games. I find them better than gambling and lucky games
There was a discussion before that is near about this question. I just can't find it.
Not just pay-to-earn but games with gacha rolls, premium items to buy in-game, and other kinds of stuff that are being bought with money are considered gambling too.
It's just better now because online games are paying back by means of cryptocurrencies where items can be sold for it.
Or, you could pick a game with an NFT option, make your avatar an NFT then trade it for cryptocurrency in their market.
If you are the type of hardcore grinder in MMORPGs, you could try Mir4.

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December 05, 2022, 11:55:30 PM
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for example in a room of 10 players everyone puts 5 dollars and the winner takes the whole 50 dollars, Are considered as gambling.

The activity is considered as betting on something else, and it is gambling, but the game it self is not, obviously. It is even considered as an esports. Like i said on other threads in relation about games and gambling, all gambling can be considered as games, but not all games can be considered gambling. That is why we have sports betting.

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From the way you shared an example, I don't see why it won't be called gambling.

Everyone put money, there's reward money, there's a prize pool, and you all guys compete for it to win.

I thought at first that you are referring to the usual "pay to earn" games but gambling inside a game itself. I don't see such games in casinos.
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