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December 17, 2022, 12:10:52 PM
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Exactly, they don't want to ruined that chance to fight against each other, so they'll need to beat their respective opponent. It's a good tuneup fight for Garcia as he would fight an aggressive fighter which has a similar style of Tank Davis. Garcia has the power and speed, I'm not sure if Gesta will survive a 12 rounds fight if he wants some kind of war in this fight.

It’s hard to understand Garcia, he says that he’s had enough of intermediate fights, and he wants to fight Tank, but despite this, he agreed to fight with Gesta, his behavior is often strange, he has already disrupted two fights in a row in 2021, citing to mental problems. And yet, it seems to me that Garcia will not be able to defeat Tank, this is too difficult an opponent for him.

Maybe he doesn't want to wait too long, and both camps have probably agreed a fight date that is far from now, and I would understand that both camps just want to have a tuneup fight before that big fight, but they have to ensure they'll be fine and they'll win impressively against their respective opponents.
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December 17, 2022, 12:17:48 PM
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Exactly, they don't want to ruined that chance to fight against each other, so they'll need to beat their respective opponent. It's a good tuneup fight for Garcia as he would fight an aggressive fighter which has a similar style of Tank Davis. Garcia has the power and speed, I'm not sure if Gesta will survive a 12 rounds fight if he wants some kind of war in this fight.

It’s hard to understand Garcia, he says that he’s had enough of intermediate fights, and he wants to fight Tank, but despite this, he agreed to fight with Gesta, his behavior is often strange, he has already disrupted two fights in a row in 2021, citing to mental problems. And yet, it seems to me that Garcia will not be able to defeat Tank, this is too difficult an opponent for him.

Maybe he doesn't want to wait too long, and both camps have probably agreed a fight date that is far from now, and I would understand that both camps just want to have a tuneup fight before that big fight, but they have to ensure they'll be fine and they'll win impressively against their respective opponents.

Just like Spence and Crawford, they have their tuneup fight before a big fight, so most probably they just follow it. Anyway, I don't see any reason why a tuneup fight will not happen, I believe it will help them to be in shape, and as long as they'll both win, then there's no problem going forward.

These are undefeated champs fighting a not popular challenges, so there's no much risk here.

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December 17, 2022, 01:28:49 PM
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Exactly, they don't want to ruined that chance to fight against each other, so they'll need to beat their respective opponent. It's a good tuneup fight for Garcia as he would fight an aggressive fighter which has a similar style of Tank Davis. Garcia has the power and speed, I'm not sure if Gesta will survive a 12 rounds fight if he wants some kind of war in this fight.

It’s hard to understand Garcia, he says that he’s had enough of intermediate fights, and he wants to fight Tank, but despite this, he agreed to fight with Gesta, his behavior is often strange, he has already disrupted two fights in a row in 2021, citing to mental problems. And yet, it seems to me that Garcia will not be able to defeat Tank, this is too difficult an opponent for him.

Maybe he doesn't want to wait too long, and both camps have probably agreed a fight date that is far from now, and I would understand that both camps just want to have a tuneup fight before that big fight, but they have to ensure they'll be fine and they'll win impressively against their respective opponents.

Just like Spence and Crawford, they have their tuneup fight before a big fight, so most probably they just follow it. Anyway, I don't see any reason why a tuneup fight will not happen, I believe it will help them to be in shape, and as long as they'll both win, then there's no problem going forward.

These are undefeated champs fighting a not popular challenges, so there's no much risk here.

Maybe there's less risk here but there's no assurance that they will win. Well, for Ryan Garcia, his camp knows how important this fight before a big fight with Tank Davis, so they choose a fighter that could give Garcia a good challenge. Until this fight is over, we cannot be too excited with Garcia's fight on Tank Davis as you know, upset could happen.

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December 17, 2022, 01:53:29 PM
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Maybe there's less risk here but there's no assurance that they will win. Well, for Ryan Garcia, his camp knows how important this fight before a big fight with Tank Davis, so they choose a fighter that could give Garcia a good challenge. Until this fight is over, we cannot be too excited with Garcia's fight on Tank Davis as you know, upset could happen.
Between Ryan's opponent and Tank's opponent, Ryan is facing a risky challenger, Gesta's first fight was in 2003 and he fought for world titles two times already in 2012 and 2018 he is in battle tested and he just comes from a Unanimous decision win against Diaz he should not underestimate the guy style is very different from all the other boxers that Ryan has fought, he can engage and he is a good counter puncher, he will have a very good tune fight in Gesta and talking about upsets it's possible here.

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December 17, 2022, 02:22:02 PM
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Maybe there's less risk here but there's no assurance that they will win. Well, for Ryan Garcia, his camp knows how important this fight before a big fight with Tank Davis, so they choose a fighter that could give Garcia a good challenge. Until this fight is over, we cannot be too excited with Garcia's fight on Tank Davis as you know, upset could happen.
Between Ryan's opponent and Tank's opponent, Ryan is facing a risky challenger, Gesta's first fight was in 2003 and he fought for world titles two times already in 2012 and 2018 he is in battle tested and he just comes from a Unanimous decision win against Diaz he should not underestimate the guy style is very different from all the other boxers that Ryan has fought, he can engage and he is a good counter puncher, he will have a very good tune fight in Gesta and talking about upsets it's possible here.

That depends on how you see the fight, but if you look at the age gap, you can tell that there's a big difference as Garcia is only 24 years old while Gesta is already 35 years old. As per https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/218078, Gesta's alias is "Guerrero No Mercy", let's see if he will live that on his biggest fight of his life in boxing.
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December 17, 2022, 03:27:45 PM
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Maybe there's less risk here but there's no assurance that they will win. Well, for Ryan Garcia, his camp knows how important this fight before a big fight with Tank Davis, so they choose a fighter that could give Garcia a good challenge. Until this fight is over, we cannot be too excited with Garcia's fight on Tank Davis as you know, upset could happen.
Between Ryan's opponent and Tank's opponent, Ryan is facing a risky challenger, Gesta's first fight was in 2003 and he fought for world titles two times already in 2012 and 2018 he is in battle tested and he just comes from a Unanimous decision win against Diaz he should not underestimate the guy style is very different from all the other boxers that Ryan has fought, he can engage and he is a good counter puncher, he will have a very good tune fight in Gesta and talking about upsets it's possible here.

That depends on how you see the fight, but if you look at the age gap, you can tell that there's a big difference as Garcia is only 24 years old while Gesta is already 35 years old. As per https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/218078, Gesta's alias is "Guerrero No Mercy", let's see if he will live that on his biggest fight of his life in boxing.

Yes there's an age ha between these two fighter 11 years gap is quite big a 24 years old Garcia want to fight a 35 years old marcito Gesta which unfair right? if we base on age.  But in the world of boxing age doesn't matter once a young fighter want to fight an old one then go for as we all know that strategy and toughness are the basis if a young fight are tougher and have a good strategy on fighting then a big chance and also in adult fighter.
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December 17, 2022, 03:49:44 PM
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Some thinks that this is still an intermediate fight for Garcia, but I wouldn’t say that since we don’t know yet what would Gesta will show in their fight.  If going after Tank is really the goal of Garcia, having some fight with a Filipino boxer is a good idea in my opinion. With the background of Gesta, and knowing Filipinos love boxing that much, he could give a good fight to Garcia and even help him to challenged himself to be more equipped and shaped before facing Tank.

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December 17, 2022, 06:45:41 PM
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This should have been an exciting fight and the biggest fight of Mercito Gesta but Ryan Garcia released a statement that he opt to fight Tank Davis and will no longer fight in January against Mercito Gesta.  I wonder what would be the consequence of Ryan Garcia's action since I believe he already signed a contract to fight Mercito Gesta.

I do not know if Ryan Garcia has no confidence to win in fighting Mercito Gesta and just gives the reason for wanting to have the fight straight to Davis and any fight other than that is unnecessary.  

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“Been thinking about it during the time they were figuring out this fight and I feel the fans and everyone who supports boxing have seen these tune-ups,” Garcia said in a social media post shortly after confirming that he will no longer fight in January. “It’s time that we give the fans what they want. Also, [Davis] requested the tune-up not me so let him handle business. LETS [sic] GO.”

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“I refuse to do another tune up,” Garcia stated in a separate post. “I’m ready for this moment. In my heart I didn’t want to do that to you guys! We are coming straight for Tank!
“I apologize to any that wanted to see me in [January] but this fight is everything… you guys seen me from the garage training and now to the biggest stage.”



Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-opts-go-straight-gervonta-davis-fight-with-mercito-gesta-no-longer-play--171219

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December 17, 2022, 08:02:48 PM
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I don't think that Ryan Garcia doesn't think that he can't beat Gesta, just tired maybe of making this tune up fight, he has recovered mentally. And I think this is why this promoter manager wanted to test him if he is already psychologically prepared and seems he is OK already.

But the news though really affected Gesta more here, I mean he wanted do make a comeback himself and this is a good time for him.

Definitely he will earn a good amount of money for his retirement but unfortunately, Ryan Garcia doesn't want to go to this tune up fights anymore.
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December 17, 2022, 08:34:06 PM
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I don't think that Ryan Garcia doesn't think that he can't beat Gesta, just tired maybe of making this tune up fight, he has recovered mentally. And I think this is why this promoter manager wanted to test him if he is already psychologically prepared and seems he is OK already.

But the news though really affected Gesta more here, I mean he wanted do make a comeback himself and this is a good time for him.

Definitely he will earn a good amount of money for his retirement but unfortunately, Ryan Garcia doesn't want to go to this tune up fights anymore.

The thing here is the consequences of not fighting even there's already a contract that being signed by both parties, tough if there's none then
Garcia can go and proceed not to fight.

But if there's a contract, then he will be liable to any mandatory rules that can be applied unless both the promoters and Gesta's cam will let
him and not to force him to proceed and take this schedule fight.

We might hear more updates about this. For now, it's all on Garcia's released statements.
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December 17, 2022, 08:52:57 PM
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I don't think that Ryan Garcia doesn't think that he can't beat Gesta, just tired maybe of making this tune up fight, he has recovered mentally. And I think this is why this promoter manager wanted to test him if he is already psychologically prepared and seems he is OK already.

I agree but I believe Garcia does not factor out the possibility of an upset.  And the possibility of an injury.  I think Garcia wanted to fight Davis in perfect condition and this fight against Gesta only give him(Garcia) money profit but is not helpful in his aim to fight Davis instead it opens to the possibilities of his possible worries,

But the news though really affected Gesta more here, I mean he wanted do make a comeback himself and this is a good time for him.

Definitely he will earn a good amount of money for his retirement but unfortunately, Ryan Garcia doesn't want to go to this tune up fights anymore.

This would be the biggest fight of Gesta and possibly a good amount of money to earn but since Garcia doesn't want to fight in January, he(Gesta) was stripped of these possibilities and the title fight for the interim belt.  Hopefully, the fight will still go on.

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December 17, 2022, 09:42:16 PM
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This is a sad news, I was very excited about this fight because I was hoping to see a fellow Filipino fighting a great boxer and enable to showcase his talent to compete against one of the best boxer in his division.  Ryan Garcia backing out of the contract and wanting to fight Gervonta Davis directly makes me think that he has a doubt of his ability and that he is afraid that he may get beaten by this Filipino boxer.

I know Mercito Gesta is an underdog in this fight and as a matter of fact I think Gesta has a very slim chance to win this fight.


The thing here is the consequences of not fighting even there's already a contract that being signed by both parties, tough if there's none then
Garcia can go and proceed not to fight. But if there's a contract, then he will be liable to any mandatory rules that can be applied unless both the promoters and Gesta's cam will let
him and not to force him to proceed and take this schedule fight.

I hope Garcia be penalized buy the action of backing out of the fight if the contract has already been signed.

We might hear more updates about this. For now, it's all on Garcia's released statements.

I would like to hear the update in favor of Gesta's.
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This is a sad news, I was very excited about this fight because I was hoping to see a fellow Filipino fighting a great boxer and enable to showcase his talent to compete against one of the best boxer in his division.  Ryan Garcia backing out of the contract and wanting to fight Gervonta Davis directly makes me think that he has a doubt of his ability and that he is afraid that he may get beaten by this Filipino boxer.

I know Mercito Gesta is an underdog in this fight and as a matter of fact I think Gesta has a very slim chance to win this fight.


The thing here is the consequences of not fighting even there's already a contract that being signed by both parties, tough if there's none then
Garcia can go and proceed not to fight. But if there's a contract, then he will be liable to any mandatory rules that can be applied unless both the promoters and Gesta's cam will let
him and not to force him to proceed and take this schedule fight.

I hope Garcia be penalized buy the action of backing out of the fight if the contract has already been signed.

We might hear more updates about this. For now, it's all on Garcia's released statements.

I would like to hear the update in favor of Gesta's.

I don't think that there is a sign contract yet, as far as I know, it took weeks for Ryan to give the name of his supposedly tune up fights. And then it just surfaced that he will be facing an old and past prime Gesta but still can pull the trigger.

So we can't blame Ryan for backing up if there is no written contract, he can do that by all means.

I did try to look at Gesta's twitter page but so far no update about this fight being cancelled.

https://twitter.com/therealmgesta

And it seems that he is hard on training.

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December 18, 2022, 08:57:51 AM
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Maybe there's less risk here but there's no assurance that they will win. Well, for Ryan Garcia, his camp knows how important this fight before a big fight with Tank Davis, so they choose a fighter that could give Garcia a good challenge. Until this fight is over, we cannot be too excited with Garcia's fight on Tank Davis as you know, upset could happen.
Between Ryan's opponent and Tank's opponent, Ryan is facing a risky challenger, Gesta's first fight was in 2003 and he fought for world titles two times already in 2012 and 2018 he is in battle tested and he just comes from a Unanimous decision win against Diaz he should not underestimate the guy style is very different from all the other boxers that Ryan has fought, he can engage and he is a good counter puncher, he will have a very good tune fight in Gesta and talking about upsets it's possible here.

If that is risky then I think we should worry about this fight, however, I see it differently, Ryan Garcia cherry-picked this fight, so he must know how to beat him. Ryan has the power and the speed, but maturity in boxing, not sure about that, but I'm pretty sure his weapon is enough to beat Gesta.

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Maybe there's less risk here but there's no assurance that they will win. Well, for Ryan Garcia, his camp knows how important this fight before a big fight with Tank Davis, so they choose a fighter that could give Garcia a good challenge. Until this fight is over, we cannot be too excited with Garcia's fight on Tank Davis as you know, upset could happen.
Between Ryan's opponent and Tank's opponent, Ryan is facing a risky challenger, Gesta's first fight was in 2003 and he fought for world titles two times already in 2012 and 2018 he is in battle tested and he just comes from a Unanimous decision win against Diaz he should not underestimate the guy style is very different from all the other boxers that Ryan has fought, he can engage and he is a good counter puncher, he will have a very good tune fight in Gesta and talking about upsets it's possible here.

If that is risky then I think we should worry about this fight, however, I see it differently, Ryan Garcia cherry-picked this fight, so he must know how to beat him. Ryan has the power and the speed, but maturity in boxing, not sure about that, but I'm pretty sure his weapon is enough to beat Gesta.

Yeah, for sure he will be the favorite in this fight, maybe 4:1 per betting odds. So his team picks a fighter that they can beat, but will give Ryan sort of test as well because as we have said, Gesta may have some flashes of Davis, lefty and strong puncher.

But maybe Garcia doesn't want to go to this tune up as he mentioned, but he will be confident enough to win or motivated to face Davis right away.
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Maybe there's less risk here but there's no assurance that they will win. Well, for Ryan Garcia, his camp knows how important this fight before a big fight with Tank Davis, so they choose a fighter that could give Garcia a good challenge. Until this fight is over, we cannot be too excited with Garcia's fight on Tank Davis as you know, upset could happen.
Between Ryan's opponent and Tank's opponent, Ryan is facing a risky challenger, Gesta's first fight was in 2003 and he fought for world titles two times already in 2012 and 2018 he is in battle tested and he just comes from a Unanimous decision win against Diaz he should not underestimate the guy style is very different from all the other boxers that Ryan has fought, he can engage and he is a good counter puncher, he will have a very good tune fight in Gesta and talking about upsets it's possible here.

If that is risky then I think we should worry about this fight, however, I see it differently, Ryan Garcia cherry-picked this fight, so he must know how to beat him. Ryan has the power and the speed, but maturity in boxing, not sure about that, but I'm pretty sure his weapon is enough to beat Gesta.

Yeah, for sure he will be the favorite in this fight, maybe 4:1 per betting odds. So his team picks a fighter that they can beat, but will give Ryan sort of test as well because as we have said, Gesta may have some flashes of Davis, lefty and strong puncher.

But maybe Garcia doesn't want to go to this tune up as he mentioned, but he will be confident enough to win or motivated to face Davis right away.

We have no choice but to wait for the betting odds, well, it's expected that Garcia will be the heavy favorite since he is a popular boxer and the champion. Maybe the odds for Garcia would be from 1.05 to 1.10 to win, and for Gesta, it should be a very attractive odds, but would you be attracted with the odds?

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December 18, 2022, 09:51:35 AM
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Maybe there's less risk here but there's no assurance that they will win. Well, for Ryan Garcia, his camp knows how important this fight before a big fight with Tank Davis, so they choose a fighter that could give Garcia a good challenge. Until this fight is over, we cannot be too excited with Garcia's fight on Tank Davis as you know, upset could happen.
Between Ryan's opponent and Tank's opponent, Ryan is facing a risky challenger, Gesta's first fight was in 2003 and he fought for world titles two times already in 2012 and 2018 he is in battle tested and he just comes from a Unanimous decision win against Diaz he should not underestimate the guy style is very different from all the other boxers that Ryan has fought, he can engage and he is a good counter puncher, he will have a very good tune fight in Gesta and talking about upsets it's possible here.

That depends on how you see the fight, but if you look at the age gap, you can tell that there's a big difference as Garcia is only 24 years old while Gesta is already 35 years old. As per https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/218078, Gesta's alias is "Guerrero No Mercy", let's see if he will live that on his biggest fight of his life in boxing.

Yes there's an age ha between these two fighter 11 years gap is quite big a 24 years old Garcia want to fight a 35 years old marcito Gesta which unfair right? if we base on age.  But in the world of boxing age doesn't matter once a young fighter want to fight an old one then go for as we all know that strategy and toughness are the basis if a young fight are tougher and have a good strategy on fighting then a big chance and also in adult fighter.

Age matters a lot because if not, Pacman would easily be able to beat Ugas when they fought. I guess this is the last chance for Gesta to prove that he is still good in this competition, at least he was able to fight a champion and a chance to get his belt if this is a championship fight. I love Filipino boxers but I gotta admit here, Gesta is too old for a young Garcia.
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December 18, 2022, 12:15:26 PM
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Maybe there's less risk here but there's no assurance that they will win. Well, for Ryan Garcia, his camp knows how important this fight before a big fight with Tank Davis, so they choose a fighter that could give Garcia a good challenge. Until this fight is over, we cannot be too excited with Garcia's fight on Tank Davis as you know, upset could happen.
Between Ryan's opponent and Tank's opponent, Ryan is facing a risky challenger, Gesta's first fight was in 2003 and he fought for world titles two times already in 2012 and 2018 he is in battle tested and he just comes from a Unanimous decision win against Diaz he should not underestimate the guy style is very different from all the other boxers that Ryan has fought, he can engage and he is a good counter puncher, he will have a very good tune fight in Gesta and talking about upsets it's possible here.

If that is risky then I think we should worry about this fight, however, I see it differently, Ryan Garcia cherry-picked this fight, so he must know how to beat him. Ryan has the power and the speed, but maturity in boxing, not sure about that, but I'm pretty sure his weapon is enough to beat Gesta.

Yeah, for sure he will be the favorite in this fight, maybe 4:1 per betting odds. So his team picks a fighter that they can beat, but will give Ryan sort of test as well because as we have said, Gesta may have some flashes of Davis, lefty and strong puncher.

But maybe Garcia doesn't want to go to this tune up as he mentioned, but he will be confident enough to win or motivated to face Davis right away.

We have no choice but to wait for the betting odds, well, it's expected that Garcia will be the heavy favorite since he is a popular boxer and the champion. Maybe the odds for Garcia would be from 1.05 to 1.10 to win, and for Gesta, it should be a very attractive odds, but would you be attracted with the odds?

I think we will not see the odds for this proposed fight mate because as what i have read in a news article that Ryan Garcia has opted out because he want to go directly to that fight with Tank Davis.

No concrete reason for scraping this fight but i think that Gesta being a high-risk might also be a factor because this might derail Garcia's planned showdown with Davis. Might also be that "mental problem" with Garcia is back hehe.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-opts-go-straight-gervonta-davis-fight-with-mercito-gesta-no-longer-play--171219
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Age matters a lot because if not, Pacman would easily be able to beat Ugas when they fought. I guess this is the last chance for Gesta to prove that he is still good in this competition, at least he was able to fight a champion and a chance to get his belt if this is a championship fight. I love Filipino boxers but I gotta admit here, Gesta is too old for a young Garcia.

Pilipino boxers are not mutants and of course, they also get themselves in trouble when they face an opponent that can take their punches and outspeed them. I discover this reality when I watch how Donaire was defeated by Guillermo Rigondeaux in his prime. He even got dominated when fighting Inoue in his old version. I think this will gonna happen to Gesta since he is not that good at taking some solid punches and cannot keep up with fighting high-speed opponents such as Garcia. anyway, a fight is still a fight and they will gonna unleash their fists next year and will gonna prove us what is real and not our speculations.
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His opponent is a Filipino slugger named Mercito Gesta which is for me a very lively opponent and dangerous as well but i also do think that a very good tune-up fight for him.
Gesta is a good bettor in boxing as I remember, no exaggeration, based on what I have seen during his betting in the ring, it's fair to say Gesta is the best bettor, all of that regardless of the results of several matches and Gesta's career.

I'm pretty sure the boxing between Garcia vs. Gesta, my prediction is Gesta will easily beat Ryan Garcia, I've seen how Gesta bet well in the ring, he has complete skills and abilities seta with some punching power that can be said to be quite stunning and quite good.

Maybe I'll see Manny Pacquiao's tactics and style in the next Gesta vs. Garcia, I see the Gesta having an heir from Pacquiao, this will appeal to each of the boxing fans they idolize.

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