Are Elon Musk & Trump planning a coup in the US?

[paxmao]

Elon buying Twitter, which banned Trump - quite late if you ask me - for using it to mobilise the radical supporters into marching violently in the Capitol, then saying that "there was information that was hidden from the public" - which points to supporting conspiracies and Trump and his appointed candidates still on the theory of the stolen election...

I mean, just add 2 + 2 and this looks like Trump trying to get elected even if he does not get elected. There is not much from there to saying that he is "entitled to another mandate after because the second was stolen" or anything along those lines...

[BADecker]

Just like a whole lot of people besides Trump and Musk, we are trying to put down the coup that placed Biden in power.

[cmg777]

Elon buying Twitter, which banned Trump - quite late if you ask me - for using it to mobilise the radical supporters into marching violently in the Capitol, then saying that "there was information that was hidden from the public" - which points to supporting conspiracies and Trump and his appointed candidates still on the theory of the stolen election...

I mean, just add 2 + 2 and this looks like Trump trying to get elected even if he does not get elected. There is not much from there to saying that he is "entitled to another mandate after because the second was stolen" or anything along those lines...

Ok Elon is trying to game the system and obtain power greater than Apple and Google. He has been playing both sides for awhile and I've learned to not trust him like any mainstream talking heads. Trump is becoming more and more politically irrelevant due to the onslaught of Jan 6th shoved down our throats but if BLM or Antifa did the same thing then the media would be silent. Why do you think the Hunter Biden laptop wasn't a bigger story than it was? They have the power to cover it up and SBF he is one of your boyz stealing all your money while sending it to your precious Democrat party (*some of it went to Republicans). Another reason Trump's relevancy is in decline is how he handled the pandemic and buckled under the Demz guilt tripping the nation over it when it was a nothing burger. If the pandemic was real then whole areas would just stop and be fully shut down just like when Ebola hits African villages. The Demz have the senate to pass anything through so if things get worse don't complain or moan because its people like you that wanted this. As for you if I had to try to do the same math "Pax" + "Mao" does that mean you work for the Chinese government? Hope you like those FED stamps when they're worthless lol.

[Die_empty]

Elon buying Twitter, which banned Trump - quite late if you ask me - for using it to mobilise the radical supporters into marching violently in the Capitol, then saying that "there was information that was hidden from the public" - which points to supporting conspiracies and Trump and his appointed candidates still on the theory of the stolen election...

I mean, just add 2 + 2 and this looks like Trump trying to get elected even if he does not get elected. There is not much from there to saying that he is "entitled to another mandate after because the second was stolen" or anything along those lines...

Donald Trump has hailed the takeover of Twitter by Elon Musk but he had also stated that he wouldn't comeback to the social media platform. He is willing to abandon his account that boasts of millions of followers because he wants to promote his own platform Truth Social. Donald Trump might be disappointed by Elon's remarks that he shouldn't run for presidency again.

For now Trump is the only formidable candidate the Republicans' can boast of and twitter might not be their main communication channel because they want to be free to spread their conspiracy theories. Truth Social is now the new propaganda machinery of Donald trump and his large supporters. The challenge would be that twitter has far wider coverage than truth social. Lets see how things finally plays out in few years.

[Hispo]

Elon buying Twitter, which banned Trump - quite late if you ask me - for using it to mobilise the radical supporters into marching violently in the Capitol, then saying that "there was information that was hidden from the public" - which points to supporting conspiracies and Trump and his appointed candidates still on the theory of the stolen election...

I mean, just add 2 + 2 and this looks like Trump trying to get elected even if he does not get elected. There is not much from there to saying that he is "entitled to another mandate after because the second was stolen" or anything along those lines...

I personally do not think there is an underground or hidden plan to overthrown the government of the USA.
At least for now, Elon Musk is only a billionaire in need of attention in my eyes while Trump is actually preaching dangerous things which could radicalize some of his followers.

I believe it is unlikely Donald will get back to the presidency, it is not impossible however, he still have power over the base of the Republican Party.

[BADecker]

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I believe it is unlikely Donald will get back to the presidency, it is not impossible however, he still have power over the base of the Republican Party.

This could do it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382794.msg61402300#msg61402300... Trump back as President.

[Kavelj22]

Elon buying Twitter, which banned Trump - quite late if you ask me - for using it to mobilise the radical supporters into marching violently in the Capitol, then saying that "there was information that was hidden from the public" - which points to supporting conspiracies and Trump and his appointed candidates still on the theory of the stolen election...

I mean, just add 2 + 2 and this looks like Trump trying to get elected even if he does not get elected. There is not much from there to saying that he is "entitled to another mandate after because the second was stolen" or anything along those lines...

I do not think that there is any kind of alliance between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, and even if such an alliance exists, it is implicit and does not aim to implement any plans at the level of the political life of the United States.
Trump is a man obsessed with power and loves to appear and is looking for supporters in the social and media scene, and this is what Musk can achieve for him. At the same time, Musk is seeking to obtain a political incubator that will provide him with better options in the market and strengthen his position in front of his opponents of entrepreneurs and competing ideas.

[OgNasty]

Elon Musk and Donald Trump aren’t two people I could ever see working together on anything. Besides both realizing that the liberal party has lost its damned mind. I think they both have different motivations in their lives and I don’t think Elon wants anything to do with politics. Maybe when he’s older he’ll (like Trump) get fed up with the incompetency in government and try to fix some issues.

[Poker Player]

I mean, just add 2 + 2

2+2 results in you guys first saying that Musk was basically a fool who doesn't understand business with the purchase of Twitter, and now that he's come out with the truth about party censorship, you've moved on to making up conspiracies.

Typical of communists. Censoring the truth and passing off party information as objective reality. 

[Majestic-milf]

Elon and Trump now buddies? Thought the dude was rooting for DeSantis being president if the Florida governor were to run in 2024? Well you'd never know with these peeps since they can go off and on like a switch.
 But inciting a coup by these two would take a lot  won't it? They are like polar opposites to agree on something as huge as this?

[paxmao]

Elon buying Twitter, which banned Trump - quite late if you ask me - for using it to mobilise the radical supporters into marching violently in the Capitol, then saying that "there was information that was hidden from the public" - which points to supporting conspiracies and Trump and his appointed candidates still on the theory of the stolen election...

I mean, just add 2 + 2 and this looks like Trump trying to get elected even if he does not get elected. There is not much from there to saying that he is "entitled to another mandate after because the second was stolen" or anything along those lines...

Ok Elon is trying to game the system and obtain power greater than Apple and Google. He has been playing both sides for awhile and I've learned to not trust him like any mainstream talking heads. Trump is becoming more and more politically irrelevant due to the onslaught of Jan 6th shoved down our throats but if BLM or Antifa did the same thing then the media would be silent. Why do you think the Hunter Biden laptop wasn't a bigger story than it was? They have the power to cover it up and SBF he is one of your boyz stealing all your money while sending it to your precious Democrat party (*some of it went to Republicans). Another reason Trump's relevancy is in decline is how he handled the pandemic and buckled under the Demz guilt tripping the nation over it when it was a nothing burger. If the pandemic was real then whole areas would just stop and be fully shut down just like when Ebola hits African villages. The Demz have the senate to pass anything through so if things get worse don't complain or moan because its people like you that wanted this. As for you if I had to try to do the same math "Pax" + "Mao" does that mean you work for the Chinese government? Hope you like those FED stamps when they're worthless lol.

LOL... so funny... you see a conspiracy in anything and consider yourself smart, but it is, like in most cases, it is because you lack basic understanding of how the world works and some basic culture, so for you everything is mysterious and think other know as little as you do.

paxmao - "Pasmao" - colloquial Spanish for "being frozen" or "paralyzed by astonishment". Not "working for China", nor for that matter, for anyone except perhaps the sponsor in my signature if posting is work.

It also happens that "pax" means peace in Latin... just a coincidence.

[BADecker]

Nobody really knows what goes on in the privacy that people maintain. How many communications with other people have Biden and the Dems had, that will never be released? Same with Trump and Musk.

However, it seems that Trump and Musk are doing very little together. They might be trying to overturn the stolen 2020 election, both in their own way. But probably they are not working together on it, as a plan, or even some sort of conspiracy.

On the other side, Musk is revealing that Dems improperly used twitter by censoring many Rep communications, like the criminality of Biden through his son Hunter, so that Biden would have a better chance of winning 2020.


SABOTAGE: Key data on Twitter’s role in suppressing free speech hidden and deleted without knowledge of bosses

New Twitter owner Elon Musk has revealed that some important data regarding how the social media platform has been suppressing free speech was hidden from previous Twitter bosses and may even have been deleted.

As part of Musk’s effort to be transparent about Twitter’s past role in suppressing free speech on the internet, he has been releasing the platform’s internal communications on the matter, which he has dubbed the “Twitter Files.” Unfortunately, some crucial documents may have been hidden or even deleted permanently.

Musk made this revelation in response to a question raised by Twitter founder and former CEO Jack Dorsey regarding the speed at which the files were being released.

“If the goal is transparency to build trust, why not just release everything without filter and let people judge for themselves? Including all discussions around current and future actions? Make everything public now,” said Dorsey in a post on his Twitter account.

Dorsey was responding to a series of posts by Musk telling his followers to expect “Episode 2 of The Twitter Files” very soon. He then responded to Dorsey by noting that key data may have been hidden and possibly scrubbed.

“Most important data was hidden (from you too) and some may have been deleted, but everything we find will be released,” wrote Musk.

Twitter censorship of Hunter Biden laptop story reveals how files may be hidden from top executives

Musk first talked about releasing Twitter’s internal files regarding its role in suppressing free speech in late November. Days after this announcement, Musk followed through on this promise by lifting the lid on the social media platform’s machinations regarding censorship.

The first file drop proved that Twitter managers attempted to block the spread of the Hunter Biden laptop story. They marked viral tweets regarding the story as “unsafe,” limiting their spread and even blocking them from being directly shared via Twitter’s direct message function.

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[worldofcoins]

Elon buying Twitter, which banned Trump - quite late if you ask me - for using it to mobilise the radical supporters into marching violently in the Capitol, then saying that "there was information that was hidden from the public" - which points to supporting conspiracies and Trump and his appointed candidates still on the theory of the stolen election...

I mean, just add 2 + 2 and this looks like Trump trying to get elected even if he does not get elected. There is not much from there to saying that he is "entitled to another mandate after because the second was stolen" or anything along those lines...

I think you should not mix business with politics. In my opinion, the aim of Elon Musk might be just freedom of expression, and I also believe the same. However, the permanent blocking of Trump from Twitter raises questions about the credibility of freedom of expression. So I can say there is nothing wrong with the decision of Elon Musk.

[paxmao]

Elon buying Twitter, which banned Trump - quite late if you ask me - for using it to mobilise the radical supporters into marching violently in the Capitol, then saying that "there was information that was hidden from the public" - which points to supporting conspiracies and Trump and his appointed candidates still on the theory of the stolen election...

I mean, just add 2 + 2 and this looks like Trump trying to get elected even if he does not get elected. There is not much from there to saying that he is "entitled to another mandate after because the second was stolen" or anything along those lines...

I think you should not mix business with politics. In my opinion, the aim of Elon Musk might be just freedom of expression, and I also believe the same. However, the permanent blocking of Trump from Twitter raises questions about the credibility of freedom of expression. So I can say there is nothing wrong with the decision of Elon Musk.

You are implying that there is not freedom of expression already or that is somehow inadequately limited. This is pretty much how the narrative of the Trumpublican party is now. Elon has mixed politics and business certainly, declared several times in lines dangerously close to justifying a coup, so this is not me.

Permanently banning Trump from Twitter is based on the conditions of use. Basically calling for an assault on the location of a governing body when they were choosing the next President. A ban from Twitter has rarely been more deserved.

[BADecker]

Elon buying Twitter, which banned Trump - quite late if you ask me - for using it to mobilise the radical supporters into marching violently in the Capitol, then saying that "there was information that was hidden from the public" - which points to supporting conspiracies and Trump and his appointed candidates still on the theory of the stolen election...

I mean, just add 2 + 2 and this looks like Trump trying to get elected even if he does not get elected. There is not much from there to saying that he is "entitled to another mandate after because the second was stolen" or anything along those lines...

I think you should not mix business with politics. In my opinion, the aim of Elon Musk might be just freedom of expression, and I also believe the same. However, the permanent blocking of Trump from Twitter raises questions about the credibility of freedom of expression. So I can say there is nothing wrong with the decision of Elon Musk.

You are implying that there is not freedom of expression already or that is somehow inadequately limited. This is pretty much how the narrative of the Trumpublican party is now. Elon has mixed politics and business certainly, declared several times in lines dangerously close to justifying a coup, so this is not me.

Permanently banning Trump from Twitter is based on the conditions of use. Basically calling for an assault on the location of a governing body when they were choosing the next President. A ban from Twitter has rarely been more deserved.

Except that Trump was right!     

[yazher]

Elon Musk and Donald Trump aren’t two people I could ever see working together on anything. Besides both realizing that the liberal party has lost its damned mind. I think they both have different motivations in their lives and I don’t think Elon wants anything to do with politics. Maybe when he’s older he’ll (like Trump) get fed up with the incompetency in government and try to fix some issues.

I agree, both might be one of the richest guys on the planet but they have different perspectives in life, one wants to explore the universe and one wanted to be once again the so-called powerful man on earth. They are both from different pages and the OP might have it on the contrary because they don't want to look bad to the public on their first time owning one of the giant social media in the world. instead, they wanted a peaceful business so that they can regain back the money they spent buying Twitter.

[BADecker]

The coup was done by Biden and his team. Taking government back to Trump, where it rightfully should be, isn't really a coup, no matter how you look at it.


Part three of 'Twitter Files' unveils dirty details on suspension of Trump, evidence of collusion with federal agencies

"…The world knows much of the story of what happened between riots at the Capitol on January 6th, and the removal of President Donald Trump from Twitter on January 8th…," Taibbi tweeted.

The full thread for Part Three of the "Twitter Files."

He continued, "…We'll show you what hasn't been revealed: the erosion of standards within the company in months before J6, decisions by high-ranking executives to violate their own policies, and more, against the backdrop of ongoing, documented interaction with federal agencies."

This third installment of information capped off two weeks of jaw-dropping evidence of widespread politically-motivated censorship at Twitter. The second drop, which Musk directed readers to on Thursday, revealed shadowy Twitter "Blacklists" that provided powerful evidence of the social media giant's shadowbanning and suppression policies.

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[paxmao]

Elon buying Twitter, which banned Trump - quite late if you ask me - for using it to mobilise the radical supporters into marching violently in the Capitol, then saying that "there was information that was hidden from the public" - which points to supporting conspiracies and Trump and his appointed candidates still on the theory of the stolen election...

I mean, just add 2 + 2 and this looks like Trump trying to get elected even if he does not get elected. There is not much from there to saying that he is "entitled to another mandate after because the second was stolen" or anything along those lines...

I think you should not mix business with politics. In my opinion, the aim of Elon Musk might be just freedom of expression, and I also believe the same. However, the permanent blocking of Trump from Twitter raises questions about the credibility of freedom of expression. So I can say there is nothing wrong with the decision of Elon Musk.

You are implying that there is not freedom of expression already or that is somehow inadequately limited. This is pretty much how the narrative of the Trumpublican party is now. Elon has mixed politics and business certainly, declared several times in lines dangerously close to justifying a coup, so this is not me.

Permanently banning Trump from Twitter is based on the conditions of use. Basically calling for an assault on the location of a governing body when they were choosing the next President. A ban from Twitter has rarely been more deserved.

Except that Trump was right!    

Saying so over and over does not make it true - just more boring. All evidence, even declarations before congress by their own team and near family point to someone simply trying to take power by force. The US is probably the only place where this guy does not end in prison for a long time.

Even if someone accepts that somehow there was any short of cheating (which is nearly impossible at the scale that would have been needed), the "solution" of assaulting the Capitol is not a solution at all. Attacking physically the chosen representatives of the people is a Coup regardless of any circumstance. In most countries it gets you life in prison, in some a firing squad.

[BADecker]

Except that Trump was right!    

Saying so over and over does not make it true - just more boring. All evidence, even declarations before congress by their own team and near family point to someone simply trying to take power by force. The US is probably the only place where this guy does not end in prison for a long time.

Even if someone accepts that somehow there was any short of cheating (which is nearly impossible at the scale that would have been needed), the "solution" of assaulting the Capitol is not a solution at all. Attacking physically the chosen representatives of the people is a Coup regardless of any circumstance. In most countries it gets you life in prison, in some a firing squad.

The difference in this case is that the House and some of the Senate agree with me. How do they agree with me? By not taking time to do a 10-day investigation into the anomalies of the election before approving it.

Such an investigation has been done in at least one past presidential election. In addition, 100 Congress people asked for this investigation. But they were turned down by the majority. So, the majority agreed that they had something to hide, that the election was fraudulent, and they didn't even want to check it out.

That in itself is a breaking of their Oaths of Office to uphold the Constitution. The lawsuit here - https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-380/243739/20221027152243533_20221027-152110-95757954-00007015.pdf talked about here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5334747.msg61402193#msg61402193 shows how adamant Congress and Biden were about breaking their Oaths of Office.

[paxmao]

Except that Trump was right!    

Saying so over and over does not make it true - just more boring. All evidence, even declarations before congress by their own team and near family point to someone simply trying to take power by force. The US is probably the only place where this guy does not end in prison for a long time.

Even if someone accepts that somehow there was any short of cheating (which is nearly impossible at the scale that would have been needed), the "solution" of assaulting the Capitol is not a solution at all. Attacking physically the chosen representatives of the people is a Coup regardless of any circumstance. In most countries it gets you life in prison, in some a firing squad.

The difference in this case is that the House and some of the Senate agree with me. How do they agree with me? By not taking time to do a 10-day investigation into the anomalies of the election before approving it.

Such an investigation has been done in at least one past presidential election. In addition, 100 Congress people asked for this investigation. But they were turned down by the majority. So, the majority agreed that they had something to hide, that the election was fraudulent, and they didn't even want to check it out.

That in itself is a breaking of their Oaths of Office to uphold the Constitution. The lawsuit here - https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-380/243739/20221027152243533_20221027-152110-95757954-00007015.pdf talked about here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5334747.msg61402193#msg61402193 shows how adamant Congress and Biden were about breaking their Oaths of Office.

No, that is your interpretation plus a little bit of blatant lying, not facts. A number of complaints were filled and dismissed in all states. Even if you do not believe in all the proof, the content of the depositions, the own members of the RP saying that they wanted nothing to do with it, at least you should consider the level of organisation that would be required to change the vote across several states. It is impossible to do that without leaks and people knowing and leaving real evidence behind.

It is about time that you guys accept that Trump was a terrible president. He was not up to the task of leading a country, probably he is not even up to the task of leading a country club. People died because of his attitude, diplomacy was severely hurt because of his - I cannot call it anything but stupidity. US has lost stance in the world and left it worse that it was before him.

If the RP cannot come up with someone better than Trump or Bush Junior or the likes of them, there is something very wrong in the party.