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Author Topic: We can not discuss if 'ChipMixer is a honeypot or not' outside their own thread?  (Read 1823 times)
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December 08, 2022, 10:17:23 PM
Last edit: December 09, 2022, 12:36:50 PM by Bill Gates
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Moderators locked my thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5426967.0

From Fake Satoshi to FTX collpase, everything can be discussed in multiple threads. But, no one can doubt & discuss ChipMixer outside of their own thread. Especially, if that involves public poll.

Seriously theymos? Does not it make obvious things look more obvious?


Update: Thread seems to have been unlocked since I made this post here.
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December 08, 2022, 10:27:41 PM
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The thread is not locked?

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December 08, 2022, 10:42:25 PM
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Moderators locked my thread!



Are you blind or something? The threads seem open to me

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5426967.0

Seriously theymos? Does not it make obvious things look more obvious?
So what has Theymos have to do with your Paranoia?

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December 08, 2022, 11:05:04 PM
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So what has Theymos have to do with your Paranoia?

Theymos works for the NSA, everybody knows that.
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December 09, 2022, 12:13:27 AM
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Theymos works for the NSA, everybody knows that.
Shit, I probably shouldn't have been running amok, cursing him with my middle fingers waving about.  Any idea where I should send the apology flower bouquet to?

OP, it isn't likely Theymos would have locked any thread dealing with Chipmixer unless it was deemed spam--and in that case it still wouldn't have been him, it would've been a moderator.  As far as I know, big boss man has no vested interest in Chipmixer and even if he did I don't think he'd nuke a thread that's critical of it (and apparently it's not even locked, so oops on you).

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December 09, 2022, 01:16:03 AM
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Theymos works for the NSA, everybody knows that.
Shit, I probably shouldn't have been running amok, cursing him with my middle fingers waving about.  Any idea where I should send the apology flower bouquet to?

Congratulations on the name change.

Flower bouquets is not how this works. You'll be called upon when he needs a favor, perhaps when someone like the OP gets too annoying you can provide some chemical assistance.
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December 09, 2022, 01:21:31 AM
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Seriously theymos? Does not it make obvious things look more obvious?
Sure, if you make up enough nonsense claims, maybe some Bitcointalk members will believe you (if you try hard enough).
Maybe theymos is secretly operating ChipMixer with forum funds (now you know why Bitcointalk doesn't need any ad banners anymore).  Cheesy




From Fake Satoshi to FTX collpase, everything can be discussed in multiple threads. But, no one can doubt & discuss ChipMixer outside of their own thread. Especially, if that involves public poll.
What?  Cheesy
Do you think polls are dangerous?

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December 09, 2022, 07:30:54 AM
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Theymos works for the NSA, everybody knows that.
Shit, I probably shouldn't have been running amok, cursing him with my middle fingers waving about.  Any idea where I should send the apology flower bouquet to?

Congratulations on the name change.

I was going to congratulate him too in one of his threads https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5426440.msg61415196#msg61415196 where he showed his disappointment with theymos not increasing his merit so he can help review and merit more posts. The Pharmacist, TSC will now know that it might take time but not that theymos actually disregarded his call for merit increase. If theymos could honor his demand for a name change today after several reminders, he can still honor his demand for more merit as a merit source. I just feel like letting him know this.
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December 09, 2022, 07:48:26 AM
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Theymos works for the NSA
Isn't it the other way around? The NSA works for thermos?

Shit, I probably shouldn't have been running amok, cursing him with my middle fingers waving about.
Who are you, and what did you do to The Pharmacist? Shocked I guess your FU worked Cheesy

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December 09, 2022, 10:41:35 AM
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Moderators locked my thread!
~snip~
Seriously theymos? Does not it make obvious things look more obvious?

Proof? Missing again?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
You don't even check your own topic correctly, your "concern" looks more and more like spam and you want to be taken serious. Good luck with that (/s).

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December 09, 2022, 01:27:21 PM
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WoW! Just WoW! As soon as I created this thread here, the thread got unlocked and moved from Bitcoin Discussion to Service Discussion. Nice Ninja move by someone in the moderation team to tarnish my reputation in public eye. Kudos to the people who think, after spending 8+ years on BitcoinTalk, I can not recognize the difference between a locked and an unlocked thread. I should have taken a screenshot. My mistake, that I did not.

I don't know if locking & unlocking of a topic shows up in modlog or leave any other trace. If it does, it can be independently verified if the topic was locked for a brief period or not.

Regarding theymos, I have utmost respect for that man. I have witnessed, at the time of crisis in scaling debate, how he stood his ground against all odds. So, I thought, it would be worthwhile to tag him in a situation, where a mod is trying to cover some information from having maximum exposure on BitcoinTalk.

OP updated.
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December 09, 2022, 02:35:52 PM
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after spending 8+ years on BitcoinTalk

LOL you blithering sockpuppet, anybody can see that you "wake up" every few months to shit out some useless BS.

Post from your main account so that we can properly judge your Bitcointalk experience.
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December 09, 2022, 03:39:30 PM
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WoW! Just WoW! As soon as I created this thread here, the thread got unlocked and moved from Bitcoin Discussion to Service Discussion. Nice Ninja move by someone in the moderation team to tarnish my reputation in public eye. Kudos to the people who think, after spending 8+ years on BitcoinTalk, I can not recognize the difference between a locked and an unlocked thread. I should have taken a screenshot. My mistake, that I did not.

Well, doing something behind your back also counts as admitting that the decision was a mistake, so I don't really see all the fuss for this topic now. We can go about our own lives now, I wouldn't get upset about things that some stranger on the internet does.

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December 09, 2022, 08:12:30 PM
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WoW! Just WoW! As soon as I created this thread here, the thread got unlocked and moved from Bitcoin Discussion to Service Discussion. Nice Ninja move by someone in the moderation team to tarnish my reputation in public eye. Kudos to the people who think, after spending 8+ years on BitcoinTalk, I can not recognize the difference between a locked and an unlocked thread. I should have taken a screenshot. My mistake, that I did not.

Well, doing something behind your back also counts as admitting that the decision was a mistake, so I don't really see all the fuss for this topic now. We can go about our own lives now, I wouldn't get upset about things that some stranger on the internet does.

As the shadiness of mixers is slowly being revealed and regulation is beginning their crackdown, maybe sweeping all the curious behavior surrounding Chipmixer and it's paid supporters here under the rug isn't the best idea.  Seeing this latest complaint makes me think that moderators shouldn't be allowed to participate in paid signature campaigns.  They're already being paid to be here by the forum itself, why allow them to continue abusing conflicts of interest to double dip?  It seems like others should continue to post threads like this calling out questionable behavior and those engaging in it should be checked for conflicts of interest.  Feels to me like moderators of this forum shouldn't feel the need to have to protect their income sources by abusing their positions here, but what do I know, I'm just a disgraced former contractor.  

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December 09, 2022, 09:40:19 PM
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As the shadiness of mixers is slowly being revealed and regulation is beginning their crackdown
Lol, man. Just lol.

Seeing this latest complaint makes me think that moderators shouldn't be allowed to participate in paid signature campaigns.  They're already being paid to be here by the forum itself, why allow them to continue abusing conflicts of interest to double dip?
If you think they abuse conflicts of interest, then allowing them to participate in sig campaigns is irrelevant. If they do abuse as you say, they shouldn't be mods in the first place. By the way, everybody's free to do as they please. If some authority is likely to abuse power, it's not the absence of the signature that's going to stop them. A simple bribe can cover it.

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December 10, 2022, 02:33:11 PM
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WoW! Just WoW! As soon as I created this thread here, the thread got unlocked and moved from Bitcoin Discussion to Service Discussion. Nice Ninja move by someone in the moderation team to tarnish my reputation in public eye. Kudos to the people who think, after spending 8+ years on BitcoinTalk, I can not recognize the difference between a locked and an unlocked thread. I should have taken a screenshot. My mistake, that I did not.

For someone who, as you say, has been on the forum for 8 years, you should know what belongs in the Bitcoin discussion and what doesn't belong there. I think the Service Discussion is quite appropriate for that topic, although of course it doesn't have as much exposure as the Bitcoin discussion.

Regarding theymos, I have utmost respect for that man. I have witnessed, at the time of crisis in scaling debate, how he stood his ground against all odds. So, I thought, it would be worthwhile to tag him in a situation, where a mod is trying to cover some information from having maximum exposure on BitcoinTalk.

No one is trying to hide anything, and the moderator who handles the report only acted on the report (I personally reported it) with a link to an already existing discussion, and if he closed the thread, he did it completely logically, because it makes no sense to have the same discussion in two different boards. Someone from the administration (global mod or admin) obviously had a different opinion even after seeing this thread and canceled the previous decision.

It's not the first time something like this has happened, not all people are the same and they don't make decisions in the same way.

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December 10, 2022, 02:44:14 PM
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Update: Thread seems to have been unlocked since I made this post here.
Maybe the Bot, TryNinja (Who else are here?) try something which will keep track of which topics are being locked and unlocked LOL

No one is trying to hide anything, and the moderator who handles the report only acted on the report (I personally reported it) with a link to an already existing discussion, and if he closed the thread, he did it completely logically, because it makes no sense to have the same discussion in two different boards. Someone from the administration (global mod or admin) obviously had a different opinion even after seeing this thread and canceled the previous decision.
Okay it proves, the topic was locked. But the reaction from OP was unnecessary. He is defiantly angry and don't like Chipmixer at all.

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December 11, 2022, 01:44:28 PM
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No one is trying to hide anything, and the moderator who handles the report only acted on the report (I personally reported it) with a link to an already existing discussion, and if he closed the thread, he did it completely logically, because it makes no sense to have the same discussion in two different boards.

There's been hundreds - thousands even - of threads opened on far stupider & more redundant subjects.

You don't have to go out of your way to defend ChipMixer. You could simply choose to ignore criticism of it if you wanted.

Really the defense of ChipMixer by its sig campaigners has been far stronger than for any other entity that has ever advertised in such a manner on the forum. Its getting a bit embarrassing TBH.

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December 11, 2022, 02:07:43 PM
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Really the defense of ChipMixer by its sig campaigners has been far stronger than for any other entity that has ever advertised in such a manner on the forum. Its getting a bit embarrassing TBH.

I'm not ashamed of anything I've done on this forum, not even that I reported that thread like hundreds of others from the Bitcoin discussion. The fact is that a discussion on the same topic already existed, and that the OP (who is actually the alt account of a well-known member) posted that thread in a board that is not appropriate for such a discussion.

Your implication that I defend CM for financial reasons is more than ridiculous - especially since I might be the only one who hasn't spent a single satoshi since I joined that campaign.

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December 11, 2022, 02:15:26 PM
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Really the defense of ChipMixer by its sig campaigners has been far stronger than for any other entity that has ever advertised in such a manner on the forum. Its getting a bit embarrassing TBH.
Sounds rational to me. What isn't rational is for people who've nothing to do with Chipmixer to feel ethically superior and attack it once in a while with embarrassing arguments like money laundering, taint, "you've nothing to hide" etc.

Your implication that I defend CM for financial reasons is more than ridiculous - especially since I might be the only one who hasn't spent a single satoshi since I joined that campaign.
The way you choose to spend your money doesn't alter the fact that you're making money.

I don't find it ridiculous to admit defense for financial reasons. I admit that part of my defense for ChipMixer is to have it continue operating, which first of all ensures the operation of an excellent service, and second, secures me income.

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