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December 09, 2022, 03:50:48 PM
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Most times, people trade demo accounts and do that very well after a long while of consistency trading virtual currency with consciousness of not losing anything and the ability to refund upto $10,000 if trading capital is exhausted and when they feel or think they're good with trading on a virtual account, might take the bold step of funding a real account with now a changed psychology and totally different mindset and emotions, yet still make great losses when trading real accounts

Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

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December 09, 2022, 04:13:57 PM
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~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
It is related because demo account is for newbie traders to practice trading before they start using small amount of money to begin trading.

~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
A newbie can also lost on demo account.

If the profit was more while using demo account, but losses was more while using real money to trade, it is because of emotion, but lack of good strategies can also be part of the reasons.

Like today, I won little amount of money, I close the trade, but knowing that the market will still go up, the market when up and I am not that excited. If it is demo account, that emotion will not exist during profit and losses, and making the trade not to be a real one.

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December 09, 2022, 04:18:46 PM
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~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
Simple, demo account = fake money
Real account = Real money
Just like you dream 💭 big in your sleep about being a millionaire doesnt mean you're one in the day.
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Pyscology completely gets shifted when real money is involved. Like in demo trading, you may wait for your sl to hit before exiting a trade, but you would make silly mistakes with real account and try to exit way before the sl is taken (thinking about minimizing loss) then take opposite trade to get back those smaller losses, but they catch you naked in the end.
You can forget a fake trade, but you'll never forget the real one. And remember, The more you stare on your open trade, the more the chances become of making mistakes!
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December 09, 2022, 04:28:41 PM
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~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Demo account is using the actual currency price that same with actual trading. They are always related and the performance on demo account should be same on actual if trader will not consider emotion on trading.


~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Do you know someone that in this kind of situation or you are just basing on random comments online claiming they are using demo account successfully yet they are losing on actual trade. Because you are can be considered as a pro trader if your demo trading portfolio has high win rate since you can only experience consistency on trading if you have a strategy.

The only factor that I know that will make a successful trader on demo that will lose on actual game is when he is trading money that he can't afford to lose.

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December 09, 2022, 05:22:04 PM
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Most times, people trade demo accounts and do that very well after a long while of consistency trading virtual currency with consciousness of not losing anything and the ability to refund upto $10,000 if trading capital is exhausted and when they feel or think they're good with trading on a virtual account, might take the bold step of funding a real account with now a changed psychology and totally different mindset and emotions, yet still make great losses when trading real accounts

Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
The most important difference between the two will be the emotions that you feel, if you are using a demo account even if you make a mistake and you suddenly find yourself losing 30% of your capital this will not affect you since you know it is not real money and you could even recover that money if you are a good trader, however if you were losing that amount in your real account it will be way more difficult to be calm about it, and instead such a loss will increase the chances you will make an additional mistake, and in those circumstances this could be the end of your career as a trader.

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December 09, 2022, 07:20:04 PM
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I use Demo accounts but its not feels like real the best strategy is go to small exchange which allows to trade with low money like 1or 2$ and try to double the amount which you have i suggest use 10$ trade in spot its not for your earning its for learning so focus on prices on which the market rackets it maybe s older support level try to note why this high volume candle created practice for 3 months from 10$ you need to make 300$ in this time , place TP SL for securing your position.

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December 09, 2022, 08:36:21 PM
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The purpose of the demo account is to inspire you to use the main account. So not many people lost faith in demo accounts, because if you were disappointed with demo accounts, you would no longer use main accounts. Most likely an algorithm involving manipulation. I'm not sure if you're referring to expert option trading. Otherwise, I'm not sure who provides you with a demo account. However, you may learn and give some perspective into trading on a real account.

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December 09, 2022, 09:12:32 PM
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Demo to real accounts are indeed connected since you are really trying out to test out your skills and trying out to familiarize those indicators and market movement.The only thing that mainly differs them is that you wont really be having any emotions with Demo account since you do know that you cant really lose and you are just trying to make use of fake balance which means that you cant really be that so serious
on each trades that you are making since youve got nothing to lose and this is their main difference.You cant be serious on inputting those strategies unlike when you are dealing with
live account where it would really be giving out that different vibe since you do know that you would lose up money on the time you had made out a bad decision.

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December 09, 2022, 09:24:01 PM
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
If you are already trading with your real money, your emotion change and probably your trading decision will be affected as well. Demo account is just like a trial and error phase for you, and the real challenge here is that when you finally deposit real money and start trading with it. Many trader loses their money instantly because they failed to analyze and they forget not to focus too much with their emotion. Learning how to trade properly will always takes time, don’t rush and just focus on your knowledge first.
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December 09, 2022, 09:29:58 PM
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Demo to real accounts are indeed connected since you are really trying out to test out your skills and trying out to familiarize those indicators and market movement.The only thing that mainly differs them is that you wont really be having any emotions with Demo account since you do know that you cant really lose and you are just trying to make use of fake balance which means that you cant really be that so serious
on each trades that you are making since youve got nothing to lose and this is their main difference.You cant be serious on inputting those strategies unlike when you are dealing with
live account where it would really be giving out that different vibe since you do know that you would lose up money on the time you had made out a bad decision.
This is on point!

You are fearless because you aren't risking your money or balance.
You are emotionless because you do know that you wont lose money in case you had put up a bad trade.
You are not serious and anytime could go back in and out as you want.

This is one of the most common behavior when you do deal up with demo and just like you said that on the time that you are already gambling out with your money
or real funds then this is where things becomes different and you would definitely be able to notice it out directly.

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December 09, 2022, 09:37:01 PM
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
If you are going to use the same platform then somehow its connect but of course, you can’t expect the same result since you are more careless when using Demo account while using the real account you are more careful especially if you are going to trade with real money already. There are times that we earn more on a demo account  but its not guaranteed that you can earn that profit as well on your real account. Trading is very challenging, anything can happen so better to always trade with analysis, don’t listen with the hype and control your emotion.

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December 09, 2022, 09:41:37 PM
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Well, it's meant to be a demo account for a reason and it should be treated like that and relating it to real account beforehand seems to have no use case.  You're doing it for a demo. I don't think demo account trading is 100% success, maybe people are just getting the panic when they trade and start losing real money.
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December 09, 2022, 09:43:36 PM
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~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Simple, while on Demo you are using virtual worthless money to represent your "capital" so you don't have a sense of scared and panic when the price drops down below your expectation.

While during real-trade once the bad situation comes, when the nerves kicks in and they let the emotions controls them after that they start losing. Emotion management is really important during trading that you cannot experience it while using demo account.

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December 09, 2022, 10:24:55 PM
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Most times, people trade demo accounts and do that very well after a long while of consistency trading virtual currency with consciousness of not losing anything and the ability to refund upto $10,000 if trading capital is exhausted and when they feel or think they're good with trading on a virtual account, might take the bold step of funding a real account with now a changed psychology and totally different mindset and emotions, yet still make great losses when trading real accounts

Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

Because of the obvious, demo account is just like that, it's purpose is for you to test how trading, no real money involved just the experience.

But with real account, it's very different, there is this pressure already that you will net to perform just like what you did on a demo, very successful. But then again, this entails real money so just a simple mistake will make you lose money. So we shouldn't compare the two, at least take advantage of the demo account. But it doesn't mean that you can replicate it to real trading account so we have to get that on our mind when we go on real accounts.

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December 09, 2022, 10:50:53 PM
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~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts

Relate in terms of what? Thinking if we are able to make profits in the demo accounts, is supposed to happen the same in real accounts?

Demo accounts just give the users what to expect when trading now goes live.

~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

Because in a demo account, no real money is at risk. Therefore, no pressure for users to save their balance from being busted.

Since no pressure, no seriousness at all, and every strategy will do since even on a loss, no bearing for users.

The time these people will now face the actual risks in real trades, they think that things are just that easy to achieve.

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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
1. Because there are a lot of changes when you start trading on real accounts, the orders, buy walls, sell walls are all real now compared to demo accounts. You still can't guarantee it here.
And also, even if you are in demo accounts, you still can't always do 100%.
2. It's part of the trading, you will lose sometimes. That's why some people are using real accounts to practice so they are more aware but this is risky though.

Also with proper risk management, it will help you especially in real accounts because you know that it's really so you need to preserve your capital.

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I wrote about this a long time ago in my thread why demo accounts are useless for beginners: Is a demo account necessary for a beginner trader?
Demo account is not useless, as the name denote and according to dictionary, demo means a demonstration of a product or technique. Although, in trading, it is better to practice with small amount of money like $10 to $15 with a less volatile market.

Demo is to test how trading works. After you check that, you can use small money to practice, while increasing it after some months if the profit is getting bigger and much more than the loss.

I remember when I saw an IQ option trading online, I downloaded an app for it, tried the demo and I lost all the whole fake money given me and I did not bother to use money to trade at that time. In crypto, no even better deme when I started, I just use video guides that the exchanges provided and I used small amount of money instead of demo, but I can easily first just start with demo and use it for like 30 minutes to see how the trading works and move to use small amount of money.

I too do not see demo to be necessary, but not useless to be seen to demonstrate how trading works, but I wonder why people turn to it as a means to help during trading, which is not, small amount of money should be used for that, not demo, but demo can be used for testing how trading works.

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In my topic, I mention that demo trading is only needed to understand the principles of trading itself and the principles of the trading platform, in all other cases a demo account is absolutely useless.
I agree with this. I am not using demo at all, but I have a friend that has no money to trade few months ago and use demo to take just $500 to $45000 in just one week, that fake profit is huge, but when he has money, he is only making few profit and he has never yet gotten to that amount, he was even broke from trading and he has not even gotten close that that profit before in real trading. He told me one thing, that in demo, when he is gaining, he still leave the fake fund profit and money grows to bigger amount, but in real trading which is with real money, emotion set, if he has won little, he close the position he opened. You are right, demo has different function for what many people are using it for.

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Trading is not an abstract process in the sense that it is not a mathematical process like multiplication and division, so market psychology, risk assessment and how to manage assets is what determines whether you will achieve losses or not.


  • Psychological factors still control the market. Losing money can trigger feelings of fear and anxiety. This fear and anxiety will make you make incorrect decisions.
  • If these Demo trading accounts are linked to reality, you will achieve the same losses unless you know how to manage your feelings.



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The psychology between virtual and real currency trading will be different because we face different situations from those in simulations. A demo account is a way to learn to trade with virtual currency so you don't lose. If you can take lessons from using a demo account and keep practicing, you can trade on a real account just as well and be profitable.

Demo accounts are not the same as real accounts in that the exchange provides them as a learning tool for beginners. If those people still lose money on a real account, it's probably because they can't tell the difference between the situations and conditions.

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My point is not to use a demo account to practice trading, the simple reason as everyone has mentioned is trading psychology. When you use a demo account, you know it's a simulation account and you won't mind trading, which means you are free to place orders without fear of loss. That will create bad habits for you and then you start with a real account and continue to trade as liberally as you do on a demo account, and you will soon lose money. Instead of trading on a demo account, trade with a real account with the smallest amount of capital.

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when they feel or think they're good with trading on a virtual account, might take the bold step of funding a real account with now a changed psychology and totally different mindset and emotions, yet still make great losses when trading real accounts
This is an usual complaint about demo accounts, but when you are not ready to comply with the reality of switch over then you may not be fit for the process of trading environments. I mean even in real market conditions, your emotions need to work differently for different days; I mean there cannot be same set of mental capability for trading all the days across years hence applications of demo accounts cannot be ignore just because of failing in emotional switch over.

why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
You need to accept the real facts of trading environment that you might be facing losses in the demo mode and even experienced traders in real trading must be facing losses the time to time. So, losses in real accounts in beginning days is inevitable; you must keep your capital low and should be keen on learning lessons out of own experiences.

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December 10, 2022, 01:50:36 PM
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~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
the demo account in the trading platform aims to give you experience. such as getting to know the features and practicing the analytical skills you have.
when you get profit on the demo account, it's been strived by the exchange to provide a good experience for new users who try.
if you lose trying, will you continue your real game? it's like a way to coax you into real trading. if you are still at a loss, of course, that means the skills you have are not good.

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The reason why traders have different accounts is that with the win rate ratio, some of them want to have a good winning ratio so they can manage easily getting consistent, I do the same thing right now but before I have just a single account and that account is good for demo trading, short and long term trading which is I see the current situation is quite bad and I attended some of the trading concepts that its good too have a different trading account which is giving you a good motivation to trade if you see your portfolio activities and organized not unlike just committing a trade and win without a proper trace of it.

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~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

The whole reason and difference that we can't relate real account and demo account is emotions because you are likely to close a losing market that is losing but you don't do so with demo. If it is losing in demo you allow it to run. So if you close it in real account, you have lost the money. Apart from people increase leverage in real account, real life is emotionally attached because it is your money and you don't wish for it to lose.
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might take the bold step of funding a real account with now a changed psychology and totally different mindset and emotions, yet still make great losses when trading real accounts
You said it well, OP. It's the reality of the psychology involved that gets to people, either to mess them up (real account) or to make them relaxed and nonchalant (demo account). Otherwise, both demo and real account are the same in trading dynamics. It's because we tend to be more careful and involved when we trade real account than we are with demo that often make us involve our emotions and make them amok during trading. For anyone to be successful trading, they've to put a check on their emotions.

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Those demo accounts are actually for practicing the trading and learning about the platform to be more comfortable. You can also try different kind of strategies with it. And yeah, you are right. When trading with demo accounts, people has nothing to worry about because they actually can't lose any money trading. Hence they can to do some high risk trading strategies that can help them be more confident when executing those trades with their real account. Demo account also helps you understand the market better. So I don't actually see what's wrong to relate it with a real account.

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Fake money is used in demo account.  And the demo account is basically a place for a newbie to learn  about trading. This is a good place for newbies to learn trading practically and start trading business with real money in real account. However, there is no connection between the demo account and the real account.  However, the rules for trading in a real account and demo account are the same


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Fake money is used in demo account.  And the demo account is basically a place for a newbie to learn  about trading. This is a good place for newbies to learn trading practically and start trading business with real money in real account. However, there is no connection between the demo account and the real account.  However, the rules for trading in a real account and demo account are the same

I don't see how the rules for trading a real account and demo account are the same because you already saying demo account is fake money and that is correct in the sense that you can't withdraw it. But whether the demo and real account are the same is only on the fact that the technicality like the strategy, indicators but the emotions are not because as a newbie there are panic and fear when trading real account.
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In my topic, I mention that demo trading is only needed to understand the principles of trading itself and the principles of the trading platform, in all other cases a demo account is absolutely useless.
I think it is still possible to understand all the aspects of trading even without using demo trades but after it, we will still practice what we have learned. This is where the importance of demo trading comes.

Instead of practicing trading for real and risking losing your money, why not use a demo trade and not incur any losses in the process? Just treat demo trading like you are trading for real, so that your trades will also look legit because you will feel all the emotions and they can contribute to your trades. Sorry, but I disagree about you when you say that demo trading is useless. Many traders are still benefiting with them and they are thankful that such thing exist.

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Fake money is used in demo account.  And the demo account is basically a place for a newbie to learn  about trading. This is a good place for newbies to learn trading practically and start trading business with real money in real account. However, there is no connection between the demo account and the real account.  However, the rules for trading in a real account and demo account are the same

I don't see how the rules for trading a real account and demo account are the same because you already saying demo account is fake money and that is correct in the sense that you can't withdraw it. But whether the demo and real account are the same is only on the fact that the technicality like the strategy, indicators but the emotions are not because as a newbie there are panic and fear when trading real account.

Of course, the feeling when trading with money on a demo account and real money will be different. this puts pressure on traders when trading on their real accounts. especially beginners who panic very easily when they see the value of the asset they are trading has decreased.
we can use a demo account to get to know better the exchange we use. available features and there may be differences. although I'm sure almost all exchanges have similar features.



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December 10, 2022, 10:34:33 PM
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Fake money is used in demo account.  And the demo account is basically a place for a newbie to learn  about trading. This is a good place for newbies to learn trading practically and start trading business with real money in real account. However, there is no connection between the demo account and the real account.  However, the rules for trading in a real account and demo account are the same

I don't see how the rules for trading a real account and demo account are the same because you already saying demo account is fake money and that is correct in the sense that you can't withdraw it. But whether the demo and real account are the same is only on the fact that the technicality like the strategy, indicators but the emotions are not because as a newbie there are panic and fear when trading real account.

Of course, the feeling when trading with money on a demo account and real money will be different. this puts pressure on traders when trading on their real accounts. especially beginners who panic very easily when they see the value of the asset they are trading has decreased.
we can use a demo account to get to know better the exchange we use. available features and there may be differences. although I'm sure almost all exchanges have similar features.
In demo, you do have the unlimited funds which on the time that you had deplete out your balance because of losing trades then you would be easily be able to replenish it and this is what makes you really that

too confident or simply it doesnt really involved any stress or thrill when doing trades since you do know that you cant lose on this way.Unlike when you are making use of your own money then it would be an another story which people would really be on their serious state and being that too mindful in regarding into their actions that they would be making of.
Demo account is only good for familiarizing but not something that you could really make your emotions a bit better but rather the opposite.

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When I started learning how to trade the Forex, I was introduced to meta4 and I was using a demo account and was able to fund any amount I wanted. I was made to believe that the only difference between a demo account and a real account is that the money in the real account can be withdrawn while the money in the demo account cannot be withdrawn. With this mindset I gave my all by learning with the demo account.

Tbh with you, when I entered into the real market the experience was something that is quite different from what I witnessed in the demo account. That was when I concluded that the essence of demo account is to make you master the interface of the trading platform the tools and the user-friendliness of it and not to turn you into an expert.

There are many factors that were not considered in the demo account which you will see in the life account as mentioned by Ratimov above.

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Fake money is used in demo account.  And the demo account is basically a place for a newbie to learn  about trading. This is a good place for newbies to learn trading practically and start trading business with real money in real account. However, there is no connection between the demo account and the real account.  However, the rules for trading in a real account and demo account are the same

I don't see how the rules for trading a real account and demo account are the same because you already saying demo account is fake money and that is correct in the sense that you can't withdraw it. But whether the demo and real account are the same is only on the fact that the technicality like the strategy, indicators but the emotions are not because as a newbie there are panic and fear when trading real account.
When one trades on a demo account he follows all the same rules as when training on a real account with real money.  The only difference here is that demo account money you can never withdraw or use for personal work and demo account money will only give you a trading fun but you can't convert it into real money no matter how much you gain from training.  But if you trade with real money then the profit loss will depend on you and you can convert the profit money to fiat money whenever you want and spend it in your personal life. That's the difference between demo account and real account.


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December 11, 2022, 12:46:53 PM
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A demo account is the first step for us to know and learn what we can use for trading, such as strategies, indicators and so on. Our psychology is not disturbed when using a demo account because we don't spend any money on trading, in contrast to a real account that uses our money to start entry. That's why the results will be different when we trade with a demo account and a real account.
I speak from my own experience, my heart beats faster when I use a real account, which I don't feel when I use a demo account.

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Most times, people trade demo accounts and do that very well after a long while of consistency trading virtual currency with consciousness of not losing anything and the ability to refund upto $10,000 if trading capital is exhausted and when they feel or think they're good with trading on a virtual account, might take the bold step of funding a real account with now a changed psychology and totally different mindset and emotions, yet still make great losses when trading real accounts

Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Yeah, I am able to get your points. Still, I like to recall and realize these "sayings" before making any conclusion.

'Something is better than nothing'.
'Practice makes men perfect'.
'Losses are just parts of everyone's trading life'.
'Emotion control is only possible by practice and not by learning from books'.
'Money management is the art of mind and not part of heart'.

Simply, you need to be careful while trading in demo then same practice will be possible in real trading. Accept losses and try to avoid them in next trade even in demo trading which means you should feel like those fake money is also limited hence you need to be careful while risking them.

If you approach demo account as a play ground then you will find hard times in live trading. Use demo as real then real trading will remain profitable.

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December 12, 2022, 10:44:29 AM
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~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
A reason can be that they underestimate the market and become dangerously too overconfident that having mastered demo trading, they can no longer make losses. The market will always to prove to these kind of persons that demo trading and trading on a live account are related but also different. Demo trading introduces you to what to expect from the market.

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When I first learned to trade in cryptomarket I learned to trade with DEMO account. But it will be very useful for new people who want to learn to trade. But I don't know if using it will give insight to all types of trades. But now I have approx.  Good idea about the trade.
The best is to use little amount of money to trade, with that you will be able to access all the features that you want to learn. I remember when I started to trade, I can buy a coin with just $1, but I go as high as $10 to learn.

Some exchanges like Binance require at least $10 for spot trading.

With future trading, I can use $2 to trade in a way I can use 5x leverage with it.

Those are small amount that can be used to learn how to trade.

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Demo trading is useless for creating your own trading discipline and strategy. There is no discipline, because emotions do not turn on when trading with candy wrappers, but when trading with real money, they turn on. In demo trading, there are no market participants that are in the real sector (bots, market makers, etc.). Without them, the most realistic trading strategy cannot be built.

In my topic, I mention that demo trading is only needed to understand the principles of trading itself and the principles of the trading platform, in all other cases a demo account is absolutely useless.

You made total sense, Literally I suffered this during my early stage of trading , my strategy was working perfectly in Demo trading account but when it comes to trading the live account, I began to see a different results and that put me into total confusion until I got to understand that the Demo account is just to give you the sense of what you can face in the real market.

But I do think that the presence of the market makers/manipulators that do trade with those super computers that sees wherever there are stops loses (liquidity) is what that really makes live account a bit different from the Demo account.

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December 12, 2022, 02:57:50 PM
Last edit: December 15, 2022, 07:48:10 PM by Franctoshi
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A long time ago, I came across a long article where one of the investment bank's professional traders explained in detail that all these demo accounts that the exchange provides you are designed to give you a false sense of confidence and control in trading. To make you think that you can easily handle the market and are willing to risk real money ASAP.
Obviously, I too can testify this because I have seen a big different trading live and Demo account.
 
He also mentioned that books on technical analysis have almost the same goal. Their primary task is not to teach you how to earn, but to inspire the idea that everything on the market is subject to graphic figures and technical analysis is the law.
Very interesting to knowing this very information, it will be nice for one to read this article in order to gather more knowledge about this. I'm someone that do believe so much in Technical Analysis more as to Fundamentals,  and until this period of economic collapse when I now realized that News events also have powerful impact in the market.

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December 12, 2022, 09:53:05 PM
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~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Just to know that losses are real when trading.
There are so many factors that could affect our trade when using real money;
 - emotions
 - mindset
 - Technical analysis
 - strategies

Many people think about why but never see that they are changing when they use their money unlike when they are just using free money.


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December 13, 2022, 02:19:53 AM
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When I first learned to trade in cryptomarket I learned to trade with DEMO account. But it will be very useful for new people who want to learn to trade. But I don't know if using it will give insight to all types of trades. But now I have approx.  Good idea about the trade.
The best is to use little amount of money to trade, with that you will be able to access all the features that you want to learn. I remember when I started to trade, I can buy a coin with just $1, but I go as high as $10 to learn.

Some exchanges like Binance require at least $10 for spot trading.

With future trading, I can use $2 to trade in a way I can use 5x leverage with it.

Those are small amount that can be used to learn how to trade.
You can trade with that amount of money if you want but unless that amount is somehow significant for you then there is not much of a difference on using such a low amount and using a demo account.

And this is because even if you were to lose that small amount of money you will not think much of it since the losses are so small, so at some point regardless of how ready we may believe we are we will need to begin to trade with amounts that are way higher and in which a single loss can be painful to the point you could abandon your strategy to try to recover the money you just lost.

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December 13, 2022, 05:04:53 AM
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~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Because in a demo account traders will not have pressure to make a profit, and whatever the results traders will not face problems, it is very different when already using real money the pressure will be very enormous, which is why demo accounts are only useful for beginner traders to know the features about trading on the exchange, but success on a demo account is not a benchmark that traders are ready to use a real account and start with real money too.
Especially on a demo account, usually the exchange will provide unlimited funds so that when you experience a loss, the funds are available again, while with a real account, the funds really depend on the ability of the trader, how much he has and how much he can afford to lose

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December 13, 2022, 09:02:00 AM
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

If the person is just following what they did with the demo account they can convert success into real account too but most of them not able to follow.

Its real money so they can't convince them to make bold moves like they did with demo account so its a battle between emotions and strategy but at the end emotions win on most cases.









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December 13, 2022, 09:55:25 AM
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I am against demo accounts. To me, it's like cheating in a video game, or like saving/loading before a difficult boss stage. I'm saying that you won't learn anything from demo accounts. I dont believe that a person has not yet learned the rules of "buy low, sell high" in his life until he got acquainted with the stock exchange, or does not know the difference between "more and less". Imo, demo accounts are created lull vigilance, to create a fake feeling of having knowledge, skill or supremacy. Most important, demo accounts does not make you learn from your mistakes. In demo accounts every single trade is correct, while reality is different.

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December 13, 2022, 10:03:37 AM
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~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Just to know that losses are real when trading.
There are so many factors that could affect our trade when using real money;
 - emotions
 - mindset
 - Technical analysis
 - strategies

Many people think about why but never see that they are changing when they use their money unlike when they are just using free money.



When using practice or demo account you are always willing to push for what you think is good for your position, win or lose you are not affected as you can always try back and see if your strategy will work, but when using real money to stake and risk, the selections that you provide are the most common reasons why traders losses their money.

It's difficult to make your decision when the market is not favoring your position, when the directions is not moving to how you project your analysis, most of the time your emotions will overcome your plan strategy and change everything, fearing that you will going to lose and avoiding further damages with your initial capital.

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demo accounts are created lull vigilance, to create a fake feeling of having knowledge, skill or supremacy. Most important, demo accounts does not make you learn from your mistakes. In demo accounts every single trade is correct, while reality is different.
Even in real account, if you simply move on, you will never get chances to learn anything. Most traders accept both loss and mistake to move on which means they may commit same mistake again but as per risk management we need to accept losses at stop-loss level (not everywhere or before stop-loss) and need need to go back-tracking to analyse on what went wrong to make that trade a losing one.

In my experience, such kind of back-tracking is possible even with demo account. If you take time to go through on your own performance then you can learn and become a pro trader and if you ignore then you cannot achieve anything in trading. Demo accounts are recommended to learn because it got no risk but its effectiveness is purely subjective of how serious you treat it.

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December 13, 2022, 08:55:37 PM
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demo accounts are created lull vigilance, to create a fake feeling of having knowledge, skill or supremacy. Most important, demo accounts does not make you learn from your mistakes. In demo accounts every single trade is correct, while reality is different.
Even in real account, if you simply move on, you will never get chances to learn anything. Most traders accept both loss and mistake to move on which means they may commit same mistake again but as per risk management we need to accept losses at stop-loss level (not everywhere or before stop-loss) and need need to go back-tracking to analyse on what went wrong to make that trade a losing one.

In my experience, such kind of back-tracking is possible even with demo account. If you take time to go through on your own performance then you can learn and become a pro trader and if you ignore then you cannot achieve anything in trading. Demo accounts are recommended to learn because it got no risk but its effectiveness is purely subjective of how serious you treat it.
Pretty sure that you wont really be having that backtracking when you are dealing with demo since you would really be testing out another strategy that would work and since you arent losing money with demo

trades then this is where you would definitely or probably do most of the time which it is really that different when you do make use of real money on which on the time that you had lost a trade,

then you would be minding on where you did get it wrong and try to analyze it.Well, this would really be depending on a certain individual because not everyone will really be thinking the same.

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December 13, 2022, 10:30:27 PM
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~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
When you use a demo account, you don't do real trading. It is only a simulation trading, you won't earn money as well. So, why it is needed to relate to real account? Using a demo account isn't a must, anyone can trade without using it first. We should understand that using demo account is an optional, it is not a crucial part of the real account.

~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
If you spend a long time on demo trading, it only wastes your time. It never guarantees a success for you trading, it only helps you to understand how to trade is. In real trading, there are many factors to influence the result of our trading that we can't see it in demo trading. As @Ratimov said, "there is no market makers, no exchange bots, and no whales". Without these factors in demo trading, surely we can easily trade successfully. While in the real account, to succeed in trading, we must deal with those factors.



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December 13, 2022, 10:56:51 PM
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Demo account is relational to real or live trading account alright. In both cases, your trading the actual market, under going same market condition, building strategies that could function in both demo and live market but, the difference always comes in in the sense that, one is your actual/real money and the other is not.
Hence, there is a different emotion to this. Whatever the outcome might be on a demo account, you can easily get to accept it. What's the worst that could happen, you exhaust your funds, create a new account and get funds, then your back again.

On a real account, losing your funds means you get to fund it again out of your pocket and that hurts. You get emotional on every trade and more than hopes to get it right and that's enough to make errors. In either case, is always nice to start trading on a demo account.

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December 14, 2022, 10:31:05 AM
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demo accounts are created lull vigilance, to create a fake feeling of having knowledge, skill or supremacy. Most important, demo accounts does not make you learn from your mistakes. In demo accounts every single trade is correct, while reality is different.
Even in real account, if you simply move on, you will never get chances to learn anything. Most traders accept both loss and mistake to move on which means they may commit same mistake again but as per risk management we need to accept losses at stop-loss level (not everywhere or before stop-loss) and need need to go back-tracking to analyse on what went wrong to make that trade a losing one.

In my experience, such kind of back-tracking is possible even with demo account. If you take time to go through on your own performance then you can learn and become a pro trader and if you ignore then you cannot achieve anything in trading. Demo accounts are recommended to learn because it got no risk but its effectiveness is purely subjective of how serious you treat it.

Why do you think people dont learn in real accounts also? If you meant that  they dont care about money, then yes, such person dont learn from losses. I see a loss in trading as putting a hand into open fire. One time is enough to find out that it hurts. There are cases that sometimes a person must burn a bit/make a sale with a loss. But that is a necessity. A person must be very stupid if he keeps on loosing aka putting hand in a fire, doing similar actions. Demo accounts - it is like putting a hand in fire, but with a thick protective glove.

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December 14, 2022, 10:38:11 AM
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demo accounts are created lull vigilance, to create a fake feeling of having knowledge, skill or supremacy. Most important, demo accounts does not make you learn from your mistakes. In demo accounts every single trade is correct, while reality is different.
Even in real account, if you simply move on, you will never get chances to learn anything. Most traders accept both loss and mistake to move on which means they may commit same mistake again but as per risk management we need to accept losses at stop-loss level (not everywhere or before stop-loss) and need need to go back-tracking to analyse on what went wrong to make that trade a losing one.

In my experience, such kind of back-tracking is possible even with demo account. If you take time to go through on your own performance then you can learn and become a pro trader and if you ignore then you cannot achieve anything in trading. Demo accounts are recommended to learn because it got no risk but its effectiveness is purely subjective of how serious you treat it.
Pretty sure that you wont really be having that backtracking when you are dealing with demo since you would really be testing out another strategy that would work and since you arent losing money with demo

trades then this is where you would definitely or probably do most of the time which it is really that different when you do make use of real money on which on the time that you had lost a trade,

then you would be minding on where you did get it wrong and try to analyze it.Well, this would really be depending on a certain individual because not everyone will really be thinking the same.

Getting to that opinion, we do have differences and like you mentioned actual trade with real money is far different from the demo account, if you lose in the demo you can easily recreate and re-try a new strategy that you think will work for you, while with real account using your hard earned money, the emotions mostly cover and dominates your decision making.

It's tough to see that you are losing by mistakenly judge the possible market movement, you can re-create your strategy but there's already money involve that you need to accept that you lose.

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December 14, 2022, 04:58:19 PM
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Demo experience can not be compared to real account experience. In demo there is no tension, no greed, sometimes the trader might open a trade and hodl for days because there is no limit to the amount of funds received from demo accounts.

With real account, the trader funds what the can afford and boom tension sets in. The greed to move $100 to $1000 in three days drive the trader. If it turns out positive, then $10k becomes the next challenge. Real money comes with this unsatisfaction, the urge to make more will always be there. I see demo account has a tool to familiarize with the trading interface before going life and not a determinant of what happens in live accounts.
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This is just like the saying that talk is cheap. In demo accounts, we can make it grow using technical and fundamental analysis. What is missing though is the psychological effects which is part of trading. That is why I am not really a fan of demo accounts. I tested some of my strategies before by simply basing them on past candles and trends. And I would rather trade small in a real account like $100 rather than do demo trades. We can always start small in order to avoid our emotions affecting our trade analysis.

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This is just like the saying that talk is cheap. In demo accounts, we can make it grow using technical and fundamental analysis. What is missing though is the psychological effects which is part of trading. That is why I am not really a fan of demo accounts. I tested some of my strategies before by simply basing them on past candles and trends. And I would rather trade small in a real account like $100 rather than do demo trades. We can always start small in order to avoid our emotions affecting our trade analysis.
Not only psychological but also with emotional aspect where it does really play a big part when you do make out some trading decision.It isnt something that you would really be needing to forget.
You cant really make yourself to be that a good trader if you havent been able to mold this part because aside from knowledge, you would be still needing to enhance your emotion.
When you are practicing with demo trading then its something that really very hard just because you do find yourself that too missing the main aspects which
it is really need to be practiced and this is why i do prefer on doing live trading.

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December 15, 2022, 05:20:01 PM
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This is just like the saying that talk is cheap. In demo accounts, we can make it grow using technical and fundamental analysis. What is missing though is the psychological effects which is part of trading. That is why I am not really a fan of demo accounts. I tested some of my strategies before by simply basing them on past candles and trends. And I would rather trade small in a real account like $100 rather than do demo trades. We can always start small in order to avoid our emotions affecting our trade analysis.
Not only psychological but also with emotional aspect where it does really play a big part when you do make out some trading decision.It isnt something that you would really be needing to forget.
You cant really make yourself to be that a good trader if you havent been able to mold this part because aside from knowledge, you would be still needing to enhance your emotion.
When you are practicing with demo trading then its something that really very hard just because you do find yourself that too missing the main aspects which
it is really need to be practiced and this is why i do prefer on doing live trading.

Being keen in learning will enahnce and established best practices during demo but still the emotions that will drives you differently when it comes to a real money or real trade that compose of your real investment, all can be done but the outcome is different from one take to another, when you already experiencing real losses in your money then you will realized that there are always emotions that you needed to work on and it won't be easy but still doable if you really wanted to succeed from this field.

Live trade will teach you everything, but mostly in the part where you needed to play with the right emotions during your decision making.

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This is just like the saying that talk is cheap. In demo accounts, we can make it grow using technical and fundamental analysis. What is missing though is the psychological effects which is part of trading. That is why I am not really a fan of demo accounts. I tested some of my strategies before by simply basing them on past candles and trends. And I would rather trade small in a real account like $100 rather than do demo trades. We can always start small in order to avoid our emotions affecting our trade analysis.
Not only psychological but also with emotional aspect where it does really play a big part when you do make out some trading decision.It isnt something that you would really be needing to forget.
You cant really make yourself to be that a good trader if you havent been able to mold this part because aside from knowledge, you would be still needing to enhance your emotion.
When you are practicing with demo trading then its something that really very hard just because you do find yourself that too missing the main aspects which
it is really need to be practiced and this is why i do prefer on doing live trading.
This is important because when I look at the demo account and the real account, I personally feel different things because I only use this demo account to play games, regardless of anything being there, clearly without any emotion.
Unlike the view when we are on a real account. This is very much different from feelings because sometimes you are afraid to do something and other worries always come.
I've tried a few months in daily trading and for now I seem to be too cowardly for that and prioritize long-term investments over day trading.

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~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts

because the demo account uses fake money or fake funds.
and a real account using real funds or real money. so it is very different and can not be connected


~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
because of a change in mindset and a little psychological change.

a person uses fake funds in a demo account, he will not feel a loss if he loses a few dollars if something goes wrong while trading. so that the mind is calm without emotion when trading which will generate profits.
but when someone uses real money when trading, they will always be afraid to take the next step to get bigger profits and the fear of losing money causes the mind to become uncomfortable and unfocused when trading.
So, psychological changes when trading from a demo account to a real account will be very influential.

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This is important because when I look at the demo account and the real account, I personally feel different things because I only use this demo account to play games, regardless of anything being there, clearly without any emotion.
Unlike the view when we are on a real account. This is very much different from feelings because sometimes you are afraid to do something and other worries always come.
We become emotionless because we don't care if ever we lose as we don't use money from our pocket, unlike if we are using a real account. We can take the risk to the highest level without any hesitation and become aggressive which is not really or barely happen when are do an actual trade.
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I've tried a few months in daily trading and for now I seem to be too cowardly for that and prioritize long-term investments over day trading.
At this time, we need security and profit assurance which certainly could affect our decision and mindset. Fear and doubts increase especially if we suffer losses which we never find this feeling while using a demo account.



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December 16, 2022, 08:43:22 PM
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This is just like the saying that talk is cheap. In demo accounts, we can make it grow using technical and fundamental analysis. What is missing though is the psychological effects which is part of trading. That is why I am not really a fan of demo accounts. I tested some of my strategies before by simply basing them on past candles and trends. And I would rather trade small in a real account like $100 rather than do demo trades. We can always start small in order to avoid our emotions affecting our trade analysis.
Not only psychological but also with emotional aspect where it does really play a big part when you do make out some trading decision.It isnt something that you would really be needing to forget.
You cant really make yourself to be that a good trader if you havent been able to mold this part because aside from knowledge, you would be still needing to enhance your emotion.
When you are practicing with demo trading then its something that really very hard just because you do find yourself that too missing the main aspects which
it is really need to be practiced and this is why i do prefer on doing live trading.
This is important because when I look at the demo account and the real account, I personally feel different things because I only use this demo account to play games, regardless of anything being there, clearly without any emotion.
Unlike the view when we are on a real account. This is very much different from feelings because sometimes you are afraid to do something and other worries always come.
I've tried a few months in daily trading and for now I seem to be too cowardly for that and prioritize long-term investments over day trading.
Demo accounts have their uses as they can be used as a way to test new strategies without risking your capital, this way you can learn what works on the markets and what does not work as well, however it is undeniable that demo accounts have their limitations as well, and one of the most obvious one is that since you are not using real money you do not feel the fear or the anxiety that trading with real money can cause you, so this should always be taken into account when we are trading with demo accounts.

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you need to be careful while trading in demo then same practice will be possible in real trading. Accept losses and try to avoid them in next trade even in demo trading which means you should feel like those fake money is also limited hence you need to be careful while risking them.
I have same thoughts. Demo accounts are useful if we practice with it by imagining like we are trading in real environment. It is highly possible for all the traders if they want to learn all the tricks of cryptocurrency trading for free of cost. Those people who are ready to spend their hard earned money, may find demo accounts not useful as they are ready to learn with the help of real account with real capital.

Honestly I have practiced on demo mode for lots of technical tools to find which combinations are good to go with and then I applied the same which again got be profits in real market as well.

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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
If you are profiting when using a demo account, it seems not impossible that you can't be profitable in actual trading. In fact, you can copy what you did and do it in actual trading.

 - you already have the strategies
 - you already have knowledge
 - you already have experience
These are good enough to start doing actual trading. But if you will still fail, there might have a problem in your decision-making. You really have to make a deal of it otherwise, you will go back to the demo account and stay there.

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December 16, 2022, 09:28:24 PM
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This is important because when I look at the demo account and the real account, I personally feel different things because I only use this demo account to play games, regardless of anything being there, clearly without any emotion.
Unlike the view when we are on a real account. This is very much different from feelings because sometimes you are afraid to do something and other worries always come.
We become emotionless because we don't care if ever we lose as we don't use money from our pocket, unlike if we are using a real account. We can take the risk to the highest level without any hesitation and become aggressive which is not really or barely happen when are do an actual trade.
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I've tried a few months in daily trading and for now I seem to be too cowardly for that and prioritize long-term investments over day trading.
At this time, we need security and profit assurance which certainly could affect our decision and mindset. Fear and doubts increase especially if we suffer losses which we never find this feeling while using a demo account.
This is the point because when I say Demo this is just an experiment in my opinion and I'm not too ambitious with it so emotions are an important factor that makes us have high emotions and adrenaline when we really feel like we are going to lose or gain something but when we are on a demo account we didn't lose anything so we couldn't get serious there I think it's quite reasonable.

On the other hand, during the current conditions, being careful is an important factor, but basically I don't really like trading right now because in my opinion, for myself personally I don't fit there and I don't have qualified qualifications in trading so it's more well I'm on a long term investment.

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December 16, 2022, 09:44:19 PM
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you need to be careful while trading in demo then same practice will be possible in real trading. Accept losses and try to avoid them in next trade even in demo trading which means you should feel like those fake money is also limited hence you need to be careful while risking them.
I have same thoughts. Demo accounts are useful if we practice with it by imagining like we are trading in real environment. It is highly possible for all the traders if they want to learn all the tricks of cryptocurrency trading for free of cost. Those people who are ready to spend their hard earned money, may find demo accounts not useful as they are ready to learn with the help of real account with real capital.

Honestly I have practiced on demo mode for lots of technical tools to find which combinations are good to go with and then I applied the same which again got be profits in real market as well.
It is really just for practice and trying out to hone your skills and awareness about technical aspects and other terms which you would really be needing to familiarize one.Not all people would really be that

having a time but rather directly involved and engage trading with using with real or live account.I could say that it wont really be that a bad idea since what matter most on here is on how
you do make yourself learn no matter what way or method you would really be that using.Demo account is really good if you do just know on how to learn up everything.
Although you would really be missing out that emotional kind of aspect on which you cant really be able to mold and practice out when you do involved with demo
unlike when you are dealing with live.This is why it is really much better if you do go live directly for you to be that scared and mindful on every actions you would made.

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December 16, 2022, 10:12:16 PM
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you need to be careful while trading in demo then same practice will be possible in real trading. Accept losses and try to avoid them in next trade even in demo trading which means you should feel like those fake money is also limited hence you need to be careful while risking them.
I have same thoughts. Demo accounts are useful if we practice with it by imagining like we are trading in real environment. It is highly possible for all the traders if they want to learn all the tricks of cryptocurrency trading for free of cost. Those people who are ready to spend their hard earned money, may find demo accounts not useful as they are ready to learn with the help of real account with real capital.

Honestly I have practiced on demo mode for lots of technical tools to find which combinations are good to go with and then I applied the same which again got be profits in real market as well.
It is really just for practice and trying out to hone your skills and awareness about technical aspects and other terms which you would really be needing to familiarize one.Not all people would really be that

having a time but rather directly involved and engage trading with using with real or live account.I could say that it wont really be that a bad idea since what matter most on here is on how
you do make yourself learn no matter what way or method you would really be that using.Demo account is really good if you do just know on how to learn up everything.
Although you would really be missing out that emotional kind of aspect on which you cant really be able to mold and practice out when you do involved with demo
unlike when you are dealing with live.This is why it is really much better if you do go live directly for you to be that scared and mindful on every actions you would made.
That's how things should be differentiated, demo account is a good place to learn and practice different patterns before you engaged yourself using a live account, though there's an emotion gap in between which is very important when dealing in this kind of business, real account means you are using your hard earned money and that's the difference, when using your money you are being hold by your emotions unlike with demo account where you can simply adjust and change the patterns each time you feel that it's not favoring you.

No money involve that will be at risk when using demo, while with a live account every action impacts your decision making, every movement inside the market will create emotions that will affect you.

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December 16, 2022, 10:36:22 PM
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you need to be careful while trading in demo then same practice will be possible in real trading. Accept losses and try to avoid them in next trade even in demo trading which means you should feel like those fake money is also limited hence you need to be careful while risking them.
I have same thoughts. Demo accounts are useful if we practice with it by imagining like we are trading in real environment. It is highly possible for all the traders if they want to learn all the tricks of cryptocurrency trading for free of cost. Those people who are ready to spend their hard earned money, may find demo accounts not useful as they are ready to learn with the help of real account with real capital.

Honestly I have practiced on demo mode for lots of technical tools to find which combinations are good to go with and then I applied the same which again got be profits in real market as well.
It is really just for practice and trying out to hone your skills and awareness about technical aspects and other terms which you would really be needing to familiarize one.Not all people would really be that

having a time but rather directly involved and engage trading with using with real or live account.I could say that it wont really be that a bad idea since what matter most on here is on how
you do make yourself learn no matter what way or method you would really be that using.Demo account is really good if you do just know on how to learn up everything.
Although you would really be missing out that emotional kind of aspect on which you cant really be able to mold and practice out when you do involved with demo
unlike when you are dealing with live.This is why it is really much better if you do go live directly for you to be that scared and mindful on every actions you would made.
That's how things should be differentiated, demo account is a good place to learn and practice different patterns before you engaged yourself using a live account, though there's an emotion gap in between which is very important when dealing in this kind of business, real account means you are using your hard earned money and that's the difference, when using your money you are being hold by your emotions unlike with demo account where you can simply adjust and change the patterns each time you feel that it's not favoring you.

No money involve that will be at risk when using demo, while with a live account every action impacts your decision making, every movement inside the market will create emotions that will affect you.

But i agree on what Hamphser said that there are people who do start up directly on using their real money and doesn't intend on touching up demo trades.Just like me on where i had start up
directly with trading on binance, yes of course it is really that hard since you dont have the idea on what are those things listed or shown on the chart. This is why i had made out some
research at the same time i do make trades about terminologies and other stuffs which i had gradually be able to gain and learn up those things which it does
really depend on how you would be applying those knowledge on something that you are currently dealing with.

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December 16, 2022, 10:47:04 PM
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Its normal to have a different result since you are already dealing with the current market situation and yes its expected to have losses even if you already know the trading strategies your goal should not always making profit, your goal should be more effective and consistent because in trading there’s always a bad trade.
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Its normal to have a different result since you are already dealing with the current market situation and yes its expected to have losses even if you already know the trading strategies your goal should not always making profit, your goal should be more effective and consistent because in trading there’s always a bad trade.

Bad trades are part of the trading process that will allow one to avoid these bad trades in the future.
But when we are faced with real trading, psychology begins to be burdened because there is money at stake, if initially only using a demo account then there are no worries about losing the money.
and the difference between a demo account and a real account is that it lies in liquidity, on a demo account there is no liquidity at all because we are only trading alone while on a real account there will be liquidity because many people are also trading.
In trading on a demo account, the main goal is to prepare a trading plan that will be used in real trading, not just a matter of profit, because profit is based on psychology which only exists in real trading.
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But when we are faced with real trading, psychology begins to be burdened because there is money at stake,

Since it's now real trades and real money is now at risk, that affects the person's serious approach different from what they experienced during demo trading.

The enjoyment, comfort, and risk-free experience in demo trading are not present now in real trades that's why new traders began not focusing on their goals.

They should think that trading is not that easy to do but on the bright side, can deal with the right strategy as long they are serious about building a good trading experience. Losing is part of the game and even professional ones still lose today. What matter there is, they learn after losses and try to minimize it as they progress.

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December 16, 2022, 11:51:46 PM
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~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Demo account is only a demo,
Do youbthink tjat the nominal in your deko account is your real  money? No, mate. Talhat is not a real asset, it is a demo.  the point is that this demo account is used as a simulation for training, especially for newbies. The features are the same but the money in the demo account is not our real asset. but only as a nominal for us to learn trading on the demo account. So, of course, the assets in the demo account cannot be connected to the exchange's original account.

The condition in the demo account and real market is quite different because of its real time market changing, so the condition kay be different.

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December 17, 2022, 08:18:51 AM
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Its normal to have a different result since you are already dealing with the current market situation and yes its expected to have losses even if you already know the trading strategies your goal should not always making profit, your goal should be more effective and consistent because in trading there’s always a bad trade.
Also on the demo account I don't think the situation corresponds to reality,
demo account is just a place to learn so don't take it as a parameter,
for sure when real trading then we will feel the difference

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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

A demo account is as close as it can get to real trading without risking any of your money. Trying out new strategies on a demo account is a good idea in my opinion and I would always go back to checking strategies out of sample if I am not fully convinced that they work. The idea behind a demo account is to make it much easier for you to simulate your trades than having them run in an excel sheet. During university we were offered a stock trading game by a big bank, where we could run our own portfolio for 6 months without using a real money. With my friends we really like it and where doing quite well. After the event was over we running our own portfolio with real money and where able to continue with our returns. That is why I would say that there is no big difference between a demo account and a real account. If you manage to be successful with your demo account than you will also be successful with your real account, just keep following the same strategies.
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The idea behind a demo account is to make it much easier for you to simulate your trades than having them run in an excel sheet.
I agree that we can learn better with demo accounts compared what we could with excel sheets. Similarly if you trade with small capital in real account then you can learn lots of more real emotional aspects compared what you could with demo accounts. Everything got its own pros and cons and we need to be aware of those limitations and need to act accordingly.

If you manage to be successful with your demo account than you will also be successful with your real account, just keep following the same strategies.
No, this is not that simple. Demo may provide only outline about the trading environment but the real experience of real account must be completely different. So, if you expect similar results in real account after demo trading then you may face only disappoints and nothing else.
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December 17, 2022, 10:19:55 AM
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Its normal to have a different result since you are already dealing with the current market situation and yes its expected to have losses even if you already know the trading strategies your goal should not always making profit, your goal should be more effective and consistent because in trading there’s always a bad trade.
Also on the demo account I don't think the situation corresponds to reality,
demo account is just a place to learn so don't take it as a parameter,
for sure when real trading then we will feel the difference

A demo is still related to reality but not the money because it is just a practice also most of the others said that you don't feel anything while trading, unlike the real one where you feel all the stress and pressure which is true but still depends on the trade because there are a trader that doesn't want to risk their money first or has still no confidence so they will try it first and the other one is to feel it and also they can easily learn while using the real account but still it is on trader preference since my preference is trying to demo account before depositing money.
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~snip~They should think that trading is not that easy to do but on the bright side, can deal with the right strategy as long they are serious about building a good trading experience. Losing is part of the game and even professional ones still lose today. What matter there is, they learn after losses and try to minimize it as they progress.


Trading will not be that easy when using a demo account. trading experience will indeed shape our trading style and provide a lot of knowledge about what to avoid so as not to fall into the same mistake. Losses are also commonplace, but you also need to pay attention to the average loss and the profit must be greater than the profit so that trading can continue. The more you have trading experience, the more trained you will be.
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<...>
Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

Demo accounts are just for advertisement, to make you hook up for trading, to change your mindset about trading, because you will start to think that it is that easy. Demo accounts doesn't give you anything except for false hope, in my opinion, since losing a trade will never bother you because it's just a demo account. The real deal is the real account, real money, and real experience, that'll change everything, it'll will break your expectations therefore if you're not emotionally and mentally prepared, you'll definitely break and will gone berserk.

You'll start to deposit your money until you've got nothing left, you just care about getting back your losses, without enough knowledge to make that happen. That's the negative side effect of it.
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<...>
Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

Demo accounts are just for advertisement, to make you hook up for trading, to change your mindset about trading, because you will start to think that it is that easy. Demo accounts doesn't give you anything except for false hope, in my opinion, since losing a trade will never bother you because it's just a demo account. The real deal is the real account, real money, and real experience, that'll change everything, it'll will break your expectations therefore if you're not emotionally and mentally prepared, you'll definitely break and will gone berserk.

You'll start to deposit your money until you've got nothing left, you just care about getting back your losses, without enough knowledge to make that happen. That's the negative side effect of it.
They arent advertisement but rather a real feature of a certain platform which you could really make use which i  dont really see anything wrong with this.It is really just that people are way too dependent when it

comes to their demo results which on the time that they would switch up on full live account then things turns out to be already messy which is something very common on this kind of circumstances.
You would really be able to differentiate on the time you do get involved on both trading style where demo trading is totally different with live.

Its not an advertisement since you could anytime make use of a certain platform according to your liking after you had make use of other platforms demo trading feature.
If its likely you would be sticking on the same platform then it would really be your choice.People are really that different when it comes to choices.

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Most times, people trade demo accounts and do that very well after a long while of consistency trading virtual currency with consciousness of not losing anything and the ability to refund upto $10,000 if trading capital is exhausted and when they feel or think they're good with trading on a virtual account, might take the bold step of funding a real account with now a changed psychology and totally different mindset and emotions, yet still make great losses when trading real accounts

Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Demo account can't be related to a real account in the sense that no one is gaining and no one is losing hard earn penny it's more like fiction when compared to real account, there are certain features not embedded in demo unlike for that of real account. It's like you having to train for a fighting contest, the training days and the exact day of the contest the psychology differs. Now you want to apply too much carefullnes that were not giving by you before at training and too much carefullnes could at times lead to mistakes.
The untold truth here is that demo doesn't make a mastery it only a pathway of enlightenment to the system.

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This was one of my thoughts when I was thinking of using virtual account to trade or at least practice my day trading knowledge. Now I know why I was right that I should not used those as it is entirely a different experience when you trade with your own real money rather than the other way around.
When using demo account, you might not give a shit at all on how much you lose since you are not losing money anyway.
The mental pressure is different when you are using your own money for real.
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As you may know or hear from it, is called Demo and can not be taken as real account whatever you do over there is not connected to live market and not the same force controlling the real account that is actually functioning with it so therefore whenever you fund a real account it requires additional knowledge and information, technicality to trade effectively.
Demo is for beginners also to catch cruise with it, it can always be funded back whenever you exhausted the allocated fund.
I was actually trading on demo but after some while practice and knowledge i thought I can do very well and I went on to fund my real account with least fund with me thinking I could make out something from it after funding and I entered trade, I ended up losing all while with the demo I always build up to 4x but I could hardly make profits with real account, after all I just leave trading and I said to myself is not for me.

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This was one of my thoughts when I was thinking of using virtual account to trade or at least practice my day trading knowledge. Now I know why I was right that I should not used those as it is entirely a different experience when you trade with your own real money rather than the other way around.
When using demo account, you might not give a shit at all on how much you lose since you are not losing money anyway.
The mental pressure is different when you are using your own money for real.
Yes, so if you are not careful trading while using a demo account can generate bad habits which can be near impossible to get rid of.

I think that this in part explains why newbies make so many mistakes when they trade using real money, if they begin to use a demo account they take risks that are too high, and if they happen to be lucky in a few traders suddenly they feel that trading is easier than what they thought, and believe that if they follow the same kind of strategy while using their money they will be as successful as when they were trading with a demo account, and such a thing is false.

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This was one of my thoughts when I was thinking of using virtual account to trade or at least practice my day trading knowledge. Now I know why I was right that I should not used those as it is entirely a different experience when you trade with your own real money rather than the other way around.
When using demo account, you might not give a shit at all on how much you lose since you are not losing money anyway.
The mental pressure is different when you are using your own money for real.
Outside giving a shit on how much lost in virtual accounts the zeal to understand what actually caused the loss and how to limit those loses might not be there because the money involved is only virtual and cannot be withdrawn. Both experience has a very big margin that cannot be related in any way. Real accounts will stress the mental thinking and emotion as well. in most cases it magnifies fear and anxiety.

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if you are not careful trading while using a demo account can generate bad habits which can be near impossible to get rid of.
That's true. Demo account is for practicing and not for learning the basics. Risk management kind of basics of trading should be learned from books or mentors and beginners should apply those basics in demo account to familiarize themselves into trading ecosystem. This way they could avoid bad habits.

Both experience has a very big margin that cannot be related in any way. Real accounts will stress the mental thinking and emotion as well. in most cases it magnifies fear and anxiety.
I agree that the experience gained through demo account could be different still not for every trader. Yes, if you are very much keen on learning process and trying to utilize all the available opportunity then definitely will look for learn something rather than leaving off a simulation.

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It is a pity that many people often confuse a demo account with a real one, and then they are surprised by the negative results. I advise you to first actively and efficiently learn on a demo account, and only then try your hand at a real one. When I started working with a broker from Amarkets, I did just that.
Demo accounts are accounts meant for trial, practice and it's highly recommendable for newbies who are into trading forex. It's very important they know the basis of trading, how to fund account, setting up lotsize, TP and SL with margin level. All these are very essential for trades to be executed. Real accounts are very relatable to those who have funded trading accounts with their money rather than boost about money one can't withdraw. Real accounts determined one as a trader while demo accounts limit them to newbies. Trading is all about feeling and how to control emotions when under pressure, FOMO, FUD of either loss of profits. A trader can experience that with demo accounts but can achieve it with real accounts.

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It is a pity that many people often confuse a demo account with a real one, and then they are surprised by the negative results. I advise you to first actively and efficiently learn on a demo account, and only then try your hand at a real one. When I started working with a broker from Amarkets, I did just that.

Trader that using Demo usually don’t feel pressure when using it that’s why it gives a different result when the same trader use the real account because will always cloud there judgement to think the right strategy for there trading since they will consider already the sake of there money involved.

Actually demo account and real account is just the same technically. Only the trader mind is changing that’s why the result differs for both account.

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Most times, people trade demo accounts and do that very well after a long while of consistency trading virtual currency with consciousness of not losing anything and the ability to refund upto $10,000 if trading capital is exhausted and when they feel or think they're good with trading on a virtual account, might take the bold step of funding a real account with now a changed psychology and totally different mindset and emotions, yet still make great losses when trading real accounts

Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

Demo account trading is very far from real account trading. In demo the broker didn't take you to the deep of the trading that is, in demo you are you are just on the periphery. In demo you are not afraid to enter the market because the money you are using to trade is not a real money but in the real trading account your to monitor the movement not the trade and if you do small mistake, everything is gone.









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December 19, 2022, 06:20:07 PM
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully
Its normal to have a different result since you are already dealing with the current market situation and yes its expected to have losses even if you already know the trading strategies your goal should not always making profit, your goal should be more effective and consistent because in trading there’s always a bad trade.
Also on the demo account I don't think the situation corresponds to reality,
demo account is just a place to learn so don't take it as a parameter,
for sure when real trading then we will feel the difference

A demo is still related to reality but not the money because it is just a practice also most of the others said that you don't feel anything while trading, unlike the real one where you feel all the stress and pressure which is true but still depends on the trade because there are a trader that doesn't want to risk their money first or has still no confidence so they will try it first and the other one is to feel it and also they can easily learn while using the real account but still it is on trader preference since my preference is trying to demo account before depositing money.

One of the factor inside real trading account is the pressure that you need to overcome, just like how you described it, that pressure always influence the way you decide, without real experienced how to handle pressure the chance that you will fail to pick the right thing when you are in the middle of tough decision making.

Unlike with demo account, you can keep pushing your strategy win or lose you will try and see if what will happen after, with real money there's fear of losing, you always wanted to be in the safe side if possible.

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I think that this in part explains why newbies make so many mistakes when they trade using real money, if they begin to use a demo account they take risks that are too high, and if they happen to be lucky in a few traders suddenly they feel that trading is easier than what they thought, and believe that if they follow the same kind of strategy while using their money they will be as successful as when they were trading with a demo account, and such a thing is false.
When we’re in Demo we don’t really mind what will happen in any decisions we do in trading, but if we actually do it we put some doubts in our decision whether to trade it or risk more in it. It will depend us if we will take demo account seriously which can help in improving our decision making ability. Though, if we want to start without wasting time in demo accounts, it is better to have extra money that we can lose and can spend for training. Consider it at first as a fee to be able to learn how to trade with real money involve for us to exercise our control and to make decisions knowing their is real money at stake. Losing some money in starting can set our determination when it comes in trading.

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Demo account trading is very far from real account trading. In demo the broker didn't take you to the deep of the trading that is, in demo you are you are just on the periphery. In demo you are not afraid to enter the market because the money you are using to trade is not a real money but in the real trading account your to monitor the movement not the trade and if you do small mistake, everything is gone.
You are right. In Demo account, we have no pressure to use the money for trading in anyway because it isn't real money. So, we won't be afraid even if we fail to trade there, we don't lose anything. While in real account, we use the real money that we deposite to the account. If we fail to trade in the account, we really lose money. So, we have a pressure to use money and we must be more careful to trade here. However, as long as we use spot trading, we don't lose everything, we don't lose all the money. But when we fail in trading, the money in the account is getting less and less.


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Demo account trading is very far from real account trading. In demo the broker didn't take you to the deep of the trading that is, in demo you are you are just on the periphery. In demo you are not afraid to enter the market because the money you are using to trade is not a real money but in the real trading account your to monitor the movement not the trade and if you do small mistake, everything is gone.
You are right. In Demo account, we have no pressure to use the money for trading in anyway because it isn't real money. So, we won't be afraid even if we fail to trade there, we don't lose anything. While in real account, we use the real money that we deposite to the account. If we fail to trade in the account, we really lose money. So, we have a pressure to use money and we must be more careful to trade here. However, as long as we use spot trading, we don't lose everything, we don't lose all the money. But when we fail in trading, the money in the account is getting less and less.


There would be no indeed pressure on executing your trades because you do know that you arent losing something which means that you cant really be serious for whatever strategies you would tend to apply.

You would really be having in your mind that you wont lose nothing so therefore, you would really be careless into your actions.This is the most common scenario or feeling that you would be felt off when you are

dealing with DEMO trading, yes it could really be good on testing out your strategies but this isnt something which is good on developing your emotional skills or something correlated to this.
On the time that you had familiarized in speaking with those tools and indicators then it would be ideal if you do really tend out to dive in directly on live account which would really be truly testing
out your skills specially on financial aspects where you cant able to get when you do demo.

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I think that this in part explains why newbies make so many mistakes when they trade using real money, if they begin to use a demo account they take risks that are too high, and if they happen to be lucky in a few traders suddenly they feel that trading is easier than what they thought, and believe that if they follow the same kind of strategy while using their money they will be as successful as when they were trading with a demo account, and such a thing is false.
When we’re in Demo we don’t really mind what will happen in any decisions we do in trading, but if we actually do it we put some doubts in our decision whether to trade it or risk more in it. It will depend us if we will take demo account seriously which can help in improving our decision making ability. Though, if we want to start without wasting time in demo accounts, it is better to have extra money that we can lose and can spend for training. Consider it at first as a fee to be able to learn how to trade with real money involve for us to exercise our control and to make decisions knowing their is real money at stake. Losing some money in starting can set our determination when it comes in trading.

Actually, this is a good practice if you can afford to lose your money and treat it as a fee for learning the real movements when working inside trading, chances of gaining deeper knowledge will allow you to properly adopt and adjust with how the market is moving, demo account might give you idea but working with the real market will established and enhance your knowledge, emotions and good money management can be adjust if you know how things will work in favor of your investment.

Demo account trading is very far from real account trading. In demo the broker didn't take you to the deep of the trading that is, in demo you are you are just on the periphery. In demo you are not afraid to enter the market because the money you are using to trade is not a real money but in the real trading account your to monitor the movement not the trade and if you do small mistake, everything is gone.
You are right. In Demo account, we have no pressure to use the money for trading in anyway because it isn't real money. So, we won't be afraid even if we fail to trade there, we don't lose anything. While in real account, we use the real money that we deposite to the account. If we fail to trade in the account, we really lose money. So, we have a pressure to use money and we must be more careful to trade here. However, as long as we use spot trading, we don't lose everything, we don't lose all the money. But when we fail in trading, the money in the account is getting less and less.


There would be no indeed pressure on executing your trades because you do know that you arent losing something which means that you cant really be serious for whatever strategies you would tend to apply.

You would really be having in your mind that you wont lose nothing so therefore, you would really be careless into your actions.This is the most common scenario or feeling that you would be felt off when you are

dealing with DEMO trading, yes it could really be good on testing out your strategies but this isnt something which is good on developing your emotional skills or something correlated to this.
On the time that you had familiarized in speaking with those tools and indicators then it would be ideal if you do really tend out to dive in directly on live account which would really be truly testing
out your skills specially on financial aspects where you cant able to get when you do demo.

Demo account may give you a glimpse, but the reality of everything depends on how you adopt the market situation, especially if you'll going to deal with the volatile market as how crypto market works. It's more on how you adjust and follow the market trends, something that can be enhanced when you already dealing with the live market using your hard earned money.

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Most times, people trade demo accounts and do that very well after a long while of consistency trading virtual currency with consciousness of not losing anything and the ability to refund upto $10,000 if trading capital is exhausted and when they feel or think they're good with trading on a virtual account, might take the bold step of funding a real account with now a changed psychology and totally different mindset and emotions, yet still make great losses when trading real accounts

Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

Let me answer this questions sequentially with the few knowledge I have and I hope I help some few persons too
Firstly, people shouldn't relates demo accounts to that of the real account because the demo account is just an account with merely virtual funds which the trader knows that he has nothing to lose from his end  and with so doing, there are possibilities of trading with comfort and focus, but when one starts trading with real account with has to do with real money from ones pocket, then there are usually great zeal to make profit at all cost and I leads to over leveraging and possible blowing of trading account.
People still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully because the mindset has been changed and people wound to make huge profit in tye shortest possible time.

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December 20, 2022, 07:29:01 PM
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Most times, people trade demo accounts and do that very well after a long while of consistency trading virtual currency with consciousness of not losing anything and the ability to refund upto $10,000 if trading capital is exhausted and when they feel or think they're good with trading on a virtual account, might take the bold step of funding a real account with now a changed psychology and totally different mindset and emotions, yet still make great losses when trading real accounts

Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

Let me answer this questions sequentially with the few knowledge I have and I hope I help some few persons too
Firstly, people shouldn't relates demo accounts to that of the real account because the demo account is just an account with merely virtual funds which the trader knows that he has nothing to lose from his end  and with so doing, there are possibilities of trading with comfort and focus, but when one starts trading with real account with has to do with real money from ones pocket, then there are usually great zeal to make profit at all cost and I leads to over leveraging and possible blowing of trading account.
People still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully because the mindset has been changed and people wound to make huge profit in tye shortest possible time.
This is true and this is their main differences on which you would really be that not on focus on the time you are using real funds on your trading account or simply a live account,because;

1. You would be thinking that you should be careful because having mistakes = loss of money
2. You would be minding about getting the lowest price as possible before you do enter,
same goes when you do tend to sell on which thinking up with the peak price.
3. Having those uncertainties and doubts because of unpredictability of the market.

These arent surprising things but rather to be normal and this is their main differences in between demo and live.

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December 21, 2022, 09:53:59 PM
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Most times, people trade demo accounts and do that very well after a long while of consistency trading virtual currency with consciousness of not losing anything and the ability to refund upto $10,000 if trading capital is exhausted and when they feel or think they're good with trading on a virtual account, might take the bold step of funding a real account with now a changed psychology and totally different mindset and emotions, yet still make great losses when trading real accounts

Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

Let me answer this questions sequentially with the few knowledge I have and I hope I help some few persons too
Firstly, people shouldn't relates demo accounts to that of the real account because the demo account is just an account with merely virtual funds which the trader knows that he has nothing to lose from his end  and with so doing, there are possibilities of trading with comfort and focus, but when one starts trading with real account with has to do with real money from ones pocket, then there are usually great zeal to make profit at all cost and I leads to over leveraging and possible blowing of trading account.
People still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully because the mindset has been changed and people wound to make huge profit in tye shortest possible time.
This is true and this is their main differences on which you would really be that not on focus on the time you are using real funds on your trading account or simply a live account,because;

1. You would be thinking that you should be careful because having mistakes = loss of money
2. You would be minding about getting the lowest price as possible before you do enter,
same goes when you do tend to sell on which thinking up with the peak price.
3. Having those uncertainties and doubts because of unpredictability of the market.

These arent surprising things but rather to be normal and this is their main differences in between demo and live.
I definitely agree on what you had said about emotional aspects on which on demo, you wont really be that afraid on having those losing trades or mistakes or errors because
you do know that you cant lose money with that unlike when you are using your own real money then you are really that careful on taking up some actions because you are
afraid that you might be wrong or commit out some mistakes which would really be costing you money. Demo is indeed good for testing out various strategies
which you might able to apply it on live account or real funds.

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December 22, 2022, 09:39:53 AM
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I do love the engagement I'm getting so far on this thread and I'm happy seeing alot of people making meaningful contributions to a topic and also helping solve problems.

I also realized that one if the major reasons people shouldn't relate demo account to real account is the much expectations attactched to trading real account with real money.
To further explain this, most people after practicing on a demo account, move straight to real account with all the hopes of making millions or possibly making twice their capital and when that fails, they start revenge trading and end up blowing their account.

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December 22, 2022, 12:52:38 PM
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I do love the engagement I'm getting so far on this thread and I'm happy seeing alot of people making meaningful contributions to a topic and also helping solve problems.

I also realized that one if the major reasons people shouldn't relate demo account to real account is the much expectations attactched to trading real account with real money.
To further explain this, most people after practicing on a demo account, move straight to real account with all the hopes of making millions or possibly making twice their capital and when that fails, they start revenge trading and end up blowing their account.
Unfortunately, many traders failed because of their ambitious thinking like earning money too fast by putting in huge capital. They neglect to see the risk as what is in their mind is to become millionaires in what they see and hear from social media. A person who thinks like this will easily get slip and lose hope.
The expectation is different from reality. Many people had think that trading could give them a better life but never know this will give them pressure and stress.

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December 22, 2022, 01:14:40 PM
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I do love the engagement I'm getting so far on this thread and I'm happy seeing alot of people making meaningful contributions to a topic and also helping solve problems.

I also realized that one if the major reasons people shouldn't relate demo account to real account is the much expectations attactched to trading real account with real money.
To further explain this, most people after practicing on a demo account, move straight to real account with all the hopes of making millions or possibly making twice their capital and when that fails, they start revenge trading and end up blowing their account.

When I first started trading, a friend told me the same thing, and I felt it was right not to trade with a demo account. With a demo account, we will not be serious about starting and even trading a bit sloppy as we all know they are virtual, not real. Over time, it will form a bad habit for us and when using a real account, it is easy to make mistakes due to habit, or when using a real account, the psychology will be heavier. Start trading with a real account but with minimum capital. Don't try with a demo account, it does more harm than good for us.

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I do love the engagement I'm getting so far on this thread and I'm happy seeing alot of people making meaningful contributions to a topic and also helping solve problems.

I also realized that one if the major reasons people shouldn't relate demo account to real account is the much expectations attactched to trading real account with real money.
To further explain this, most people after practicing on a demo account, move straight to real account with all the hopes of making millions or possibly making twice their capital and when that fails, they start revenge trading and end up blowing their account.

When I first started trading, a friend told me the same thing, and I felt it was right not to trade with a demo account. With a demo account, we will not be serious about starting and even trading a bit sloppy as we all know they are virtual, not real. Over time, it will form a bad habit for us and when using a real account, it is easy to make mistakes due to habit, or when using a real account, the psychology will be heavier. Start trading with a real account but with minimum capital. Don't try with a demo account, it does more harm than good for us.

It depends on the trader. I started in a demo account since I don't have money to deposit just to make it lose but I learn from a demo. You have a point that at first, it has no emotions but just if you have discipline and keep thinking that this would be like a real one so you should be serious about this it turns out working on me, I made a lot of mistakes if it is in real account it would be a big loss on my side. I feel more confident when I am ready to deposit money on the platform, it can boost my confidence. It really depends on the trader what he wants and what is working on him though
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December 22, 2022, 04:34:15 PM
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I do love the engagement I'm getting so far on this thread and I'm happy seeing alot of people making meaningful contributions to a topic and also helping solve problems.

I also realized that one if the major reasons people shouldn't relate demo account to real account is the much expectations attactched to trading real account with real money.
To further explain this, most people after practicing on a demo account, move straight to real account with all the hopes of making millions or possibly making twice their capital and when that fails, they start revenge trading and end up blowing their account.

When I first started trading, a friend told me the same thing, and I felt it was right not to trade with a demo account. With a demo account, we will not be serious about starting and even trading a bit sloppy as we all know they are virtual, not real. Over time, it will form a bad habit for us and when using a real account, it is easy to make mistakes due to habit, or when using a real account, the psychology will be heavier. Start trading with a real account but with minimum capital. Don't try with a demo account, it does more harm than good for us.

It depends on the trader. I started in a demo account since I don't have money to deposit just to make it lose but I learn from a demo. You have a point that at first, it has no emotions but just if you have discipline and keep thinking that this would be like a real one so you should be serious about this it turns out working on me, I made a lot of mistakes if it is in real account it would be a big loss on my side. I feel more confident when I am ready to deposit money on the platform, it can boost my confidence. It really depends on the trader what he wants and what is working on him though
Yep it depends on who are using the demo account. Some treats the fake assets on the liquidity account as their so they can have the discipline they need to trade. I personally suggest people who want to learn trading to use demo trading account since they can learn a lot of things there without risking any of their assets. Of course there are people who are being over confident just because it is a demo account and somehow they bring that over confident characteristic in real trading that's why some traders who came from demo trading product bad habits on trading. It will all depend on the people who use that. I highly suggest to learn the fundamentals of trading first especially the psychology of trading to avoid developing those bad habits.
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December 22, 2022, 06:25:21 PM
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Most times, people trade demo accounts and do that very well after a long while of consistency trading virtual currency with consciousness of not losing anything and the ability to refund upto $10,000 if trading capital is exhausted and when they feel or think they're good with trading on a virtual account, might take the bold step of funding a real account with now a changed psychology and totally different mindset and emotions, yet still make great losses when trading real accounts

Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts

Demo and real accounts should always be separate. The former urges you to be bolder and braver in your trading decisions whereas the latter needs you to think things a lot of times over before you execute the trade. Real accounts have no safety net nor training wheels the demo account provides, and mistakes are costly as it involves real money that is constantly at stake.


~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

They heavily apply the principles and lessons they were taught in demo accounts that does not apply when it comes to trading with real money. In demo accounts, the platform will always tell you to go for that trade, close that position, enter a new price point without hesitations because it pushes you to take the first step. By doing so, some people who worked with demo accounts thought that it's always okay to apply these principles on their trades without knowing that it puts them at risk of losing money faster than they do on demo accounts.

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December 22, 2022, 08:16:54 PM
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Yep it depends on who are using the demo account. Some treats the fake assets on the liquidity account as their so they can have the discipline they need to trade.
They are practicing on how they will manage to adjust to each scenario that will take place when they
are inside the real market. Some are good at establishing their mindsets and keep things in the right place.

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I personally suggest people who want to learn trading to use demo trading account since they can learn a lot of things there without risking any of their assets.
They can learn indeed, there's always a good impact when using demo if the trader, especially if they are
new in the market. If they are willing to take the big risk, whatever the actual outcome takes place. Demo
is a glimpse, but there are many changes. Once you are in the actual process, you need to have a strong
nerve to keep your composure and to stay with what you believe and learn from the demo practices.

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Of course there are people who are being over confident just because it is a demo account and somehow they bring that over confident characteristic in real trading that's why some traders who came from demo trading product bad habits on trading.
Big factors that will lead them to lose, bringing bad practices anticipating with conclusive position things
that are needed to be learned, adjustment and lots of adjustments when you are working with the live
trading account and risking your money.

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It will all depend on the people who use that. I highly suggest to learn the fundamentals of trading first especially the psychology of trading to avoid developing those bad habits.
Fundamentals with deeper research and study to keep enhancing your knowledge, real trade always have
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December 22, 2022, 08:48:39 PM
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I do love the engagement I'm getting so far on this thread and I'm happy seeing alot of people making meaningful contributions to a topic and also helping solve problems.

I also realized that one if the major reasons people shouldn't relate demo account to real account is the much expectations attactched to trading real account with real money.
To further explain this, most people after practicing on a demo account, move straight to real account with all the hopes of making millions or possibly making twice their capital and when that fails, they start revenge trading and end up blowing their account.

When I first started trading, a friend told me the same thing, and I felt it was right not to trade with a demo account. With a demo account, we will not be serious about starting and even trading a bit sloppy as we all know they are virtual, not real. Over time, it will form a bad habit for us and when using a real account, it is easy to make mistakes due to habit, or when using a real account, the psychology will be heavier. Start trading with a real account but with minimum capital. Don't try with a demo account, it does more harm than good for us.

It depends on the trader. I started in a demo account since I don't have money to deposit just to make it lose but I learn from a demo. You have a point that at first, it has no emotions but just if you have discipline and keep thinking that this would be like a real one so you should be serious about this it turns out working on me, I made a lot of mistakes if it is in real account it would be a big loss on my side. I feel more confident when I am ready to deposit money on the platform, it can boost my confidence. It really depends on the trader what he wants and what is working on him though
Yep it depends on who are using the demo account. Some treats the fake assets on the liquidity account as their so they can have the discipline they need to trade. I personally suggest people who want to learn trading to use demo trading account since they can learn a lot of things there without risking any of their assets. Of course there are people who are being over confident just because it is a demo account and somehow they bring that over confident characteristic in real trading that's why some traders who came from demo trading product bad habits on trading. It will all depend on the people who use that. I highly suggest to learn the fundamentals of trading first especially the psychology of trading to avoid developing those bad habits.
Being overconfident is most likely the things would happen when you do deal up with demo since you do have in mind that you cant lose money which it wouldn't really enhance your emotional skills when

you are dealing with Demo but in speaking with knowing terms and other things technically then it is really something that is really needed and considerable.There are really just things which

cant really be enhanced like emotional aspect when dealing with Demo trading but its not bad on starting up yourself with this area.

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December 23, 2022, 02:52:03 AM
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Yep it depends on who are using the demo account. Some treats the fake assets on the liquidity account as their so they can have the discipline they need to trade.
They are practicing on how they will manage to adjust to each scenario that will take place when they
are inside the real market. Some are good at establishing their mindsets and keep things in the right place.

In that case, we can say that traders can make a good trade and earn a profit. They spend time using a demo account in order to familiarize the nature of the market and tried to look for effective strategies. So, if they learn from it then surely they can apply it in real trading but unfortunately, many had changed their minds and lost their trick as they got influenced by their emotions and FUDs.

This is why even if you have 5 years of using a demo account but still have no control over your emotions, nothing really happens in actual but just losses.

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It depends on the trader. I started in a demo account since I don't have money to deposit just to make it lose but I learn from a demo. You have a point that at first, it has no emotions but just if you have discipline and keep thinking that this would be like a real one so you should be serious about this it turns out working on me, I made a lot of mistakes if it is in real account it would be a big loss on my side. I feel more confident when I am ready to deposit money on the platform, it can boost my confidence. It really depends on the trader what he wants and what is working on him though

Yes, it depends on each trader, I have tried both. Maybe you are more disciplined than me because when using the demo account, I can't concentrate or be serious in trading. I always know that it's a virtual account and won't lose anything even if I place the wrong order.
I used a real account from the beginning with the smallest amount, and you are right, I lost money the first few times. But I'm really focused because I don't want to lose any more money, and I'm more mature quickly using a real account.

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Yes, it depends on each trader, I have tried both. Maybe you are more disciplined than me because when using the demo account, I can't concentrate or be serious in trading. I always know that it's a virtual account and won't lose anything even if I place the wrong order.
I used a real account from the beginning with the smallest amount, and you are right, I lost money the first few times. But I'm really focused because I don't want to lose any more money, and I'm more mature quickly using a real account.
Yap, that's right, the demo account is just a virtual game, and there is nothing to do with real trading. This may be useful only to understand the functionality of the toolbar, but no more. In trading, I cannot boast of any results, I have very little experience so far, and little time for me to thoroughly understand this. I tried to use a demo account, but I realized that for me it is a waste of time, I know that no matter what I do, I will not lose anything, and the value of this is close to zero. It is better to set aside a small budget for yourself and try to trade with real money, the responsibility will be much higher and the experience gained will be much more valuable.
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

Users are more relaxed on a demo account since nothing is at risk here. No worries if their trading actions will result in a lose.

They might think that the experience is just the same in real trading.

As a result, emotions now take place as real money is now at risk. Since these users are new to the actual pressure of doing trades, they are having a hard time to adjust with the situation and that affects their way of handling their strategy.
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Now my question is
~why can't we relate demo accounts to real accounts
~why do you think people still start making losses on real accounts after long time trading demo successfully

Users are more relaxed on a demo account since nothing is at risk here. No worries if their trading actions will result in a lose.

They might think that the experience is just the same in real trading.

As a result, emotions now take place as real money is now at risk. Since these users are new to the actual pressure of doing trades, they are having a hard time to adjust with the situation and that affects their way of handling their strategy.
You are really that relaxed because you do know that you cant really lose money with this and this is really a good way on making yourself that familiarize on other aspects but well it does really lacking out that
emotional training or something that do really correlates about on how you do control yourself when it comes to various decisions. Real accounts is much more preferable since you could really make yourself
that able to enhance yourself in both emotional and psychological aspects.You would really be that too careful and too serious on every actions you do make because it would really cause
you loss of money if you've done something not really that putting up some analysis.So, you should really be careful.

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I do love the engagement I'm getting so far on this thread and I'm happy seeing alot of people making meaningful contributions to a topic and also helping solve problems.

I also realized that one if the major reasons people shouldn't relate demo account to real account is the much expectations attactched to trading real account with real money.
To further explain this, most people after practicing on a demo account, move straight to real account with all the hopes of making millions or possibly making twice their capital and when that fails, they start revenge trading and end up blowing their account.

When I first started trading, a friend told me the same thing, and I felt it was right not to trade with a demo account. With a demo account, we will not be serious about starting and even trading a bit sloppy as we all know they are virtual, not real. Over time, it will form a bad habit for us and when using a real account, it is easy to make mistakes due to habit, or when using a real account, the psychology will be heavier. Start trading with a real account but with minimum capital. Don't try with a demo account, it does more harm than good for us.
I think emotions takes a major role in Live trading compared to demo trading, my wife started demo trading few weeks ago she was making profits consistently having been convinced of her profits consistent making, I deposited $10 for Live trading Lol and behold she rekt and blown out the fund within a week, well she had realized her mistakes and I made her understand the difference between demo and Live trading, most especially while trying to chase losses in Live trading she will ended up incurring many losses unlike demo trading where she will   quit and wait for another trading opportunity.

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It is a pity that many people often confuse a demo account with a real one, and then they are surprised by the negative results. I advise you to first actively and efficiently learn on a demo account, and only then try your hand at a real one. When I started working with a broker from Amarkets, I did just that.

Trader that using Demo usually don’t feel pressure when using it that’s why it gives a different result when the same trader use the real account because will always cloud there judgement to think the right strategy for there trading since they will consider already the sake of there money involved.

Actually demo account and real account is just the same technically. Only the trader mind is changing that’s why the result differs for both account.
I learned trading using Demo Account when I was a newbie and did not know much about trading. I think Demo Account will be very helpful for newbies to learn trading. I now understand that learning Trade using Demo Account has benefited me a lot. If I  If I had traded with my real account first, I might have lost all my money.

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Because it doesn't give you the same level of experience or accurate representation of the real forex market. Demo accounts often have more favourable trade conditions than real accounts, which can lead to a false sense of confidence and unrealistic expectations. Moreover, trading on a demo account also doesn't give you the same level of pressure or consequences as trading with real money, so it's not a true reflection of how you would perform in a real-money trading environment.
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December 26, 2022, 12:37:18 PM
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It is a pity that many people often confuse a demo account with a real one, and then they are surprised by the negative results. I advise you to first actively and efficiently learn on a demo account, and only then try your hand at a real one. When I started working with a broker from Amarkets, I did just that.

Trader that using Demo usually don’t feel pressure when using it that’s why it gives a different result when the same trader use the real account because will always cloud there judgement to think the right strategy for there trading since they will consider already the sake of there money involved.

Actually demo account and real account is just the same technically. Only the trader mind is changing that’s why the result differs for both account.
I learned trading using Demo Account when I was a newbie and did not know much about trading. I think Demo Account will be very helpful for newbies to learn trading. I now understand that learning Trade using Demo Account has benefited me a lot. If I  If I had traded with my real account first, I might have lost all my money.

It is true that starting with a demo account will help you gain skills and experience, and also help you avoid losing money before starting with a real account. But it also has its downside as mentioned by @Eternald, your mentality will be very different, and in trading psychology will be an important factor to produce results.
You use the demo account expertly but when you use the real account to trade, to me you are still a beginner. Because your mentality has changed, it will cause you to make different decisions and will produce different results.

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It is true that starting with a demo account will help you gain skills and experience, and also help you avoid losing money before starting with a real account. But it also has its downside as mentioned by @Eternald, your mentality will be very different, and in trading psychology will be an important factor to produce results.
You use the demo account expertly but when you use the real account to trade, to me you are still a beginner. Because your mentality has changed, it will cause you to make different decisions and will produce different results.
that's how I felt at the beginning I traded and also played at the casino. with a demo account, we can do without the burden of placing trades.
but when using a real account with our money, the feeling that occurs is that it's easy to panic. very quick to make new decisions when conditions do not match the original plan. more precisely it makes us panic sell and buys.


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Unfortunately, many traders failed because of their ambitious thinking like earning money too fast by putting in huge capital. They neglect to see the risk as what is in their mind is to become millionaires in what they see and hear from social media. A person who thinks like this will easily get slip and lose hope.
The expectation is different from reality. Many people had think that trading could give them a better life but never know this will give them pressure and stress.
Too bad, I am one those people who thinks like this. I had a chance to learn trading last time because I got a kinda big ROI in one of my investment last year but then I become more greedier than normal days, instead of using it in spot since I am still a newbie trader I used it in futures I did not try to use demo account or demo trades before I enter futures, my money were being taken away from me a month after I got it. It is a lesson for me , i lifelong lesson that teaches me the harder way.
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I do love the engagement I'm getting so far on this thread and I'm happy seeing alot of people making meaningful contributions to a topic and also helping solve problems.

I also realized that one if the major reasons people shouldn't relate demo account to real account is the much expectations attactched to trading real account with real money.
To further explain this, most people after practicing on a demo account, move straight to real account with all the hopes of making millions or possibly making twice their capital and when that fails, they start revenge trading and end up blowing their account.

When I first started trading, a friend told me the same thing, and I felt it was right not to trade with a demo account. With a demo account, we will not be serious about starting and even trading a bit sloppy as we all know they are virtual, not real. Over time, it will form a bad habit for us and when using a real account, it is easy to make mistakes due to habit, or when using a real account, the psychology will be heavier. Start trading with a real account but with minimum capital. Don't try with a demo account, it does more harm than good for us.
I think emotions takes a major role in Live trading compared to demo trading, my wife started demo trading few weeks ago she was making profits consistently having been convinced of her profits consistent making, I deposited $10 for Live trading Lol and behold she rekt and blown out the fund within a week, well she had realized her mistakes and I made her understand the difference between demo and Live trading, most especially while trying to chase losses in Live trading she will ended up incurring many losses unlike demo trading where she will   quit and wait for another trading opportunity.

According to what I have thought and what many traders do not do, the demo account is to know the tools that the exchange has, and also to apply some of the trading strategies or trading plan that you have, but in my personal opinion yes I see it as necessary to always have a demo account to see how I can react to any eventuality, and even place buy, sell, buy or market limit orders, to find out if the platform has some kind of take profit + stop loss associated with it and put it up to date. At the same time, to trade in a relaxed way and only briefly check if you won or lost, that is the menare that I like to trade.

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