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December 13, 2022, 09:13:01 PM |
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What do you expect? That is why it's called a scam accusation because all posts there must only be a scam but there are false accusation sometimes made by those newbies. There must be a reason on why a good casino can confiscate funds and it could be because their player have done some abuse. Delayed withdrawals are normal and should not be reported as a scam immediately.
The rest of the complaints do have their own reasons as well on why it happened. I think it's understood already that there's no such thing as a perfect casino and even the good or the best ones can sometimes commit a mistake too but they will explain it and then do some compensations if necessary.
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December 13, 2022, 09:24:38 PM |
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There's no perfect business. Some users are complaining before even reading the TOS and not noticing that they are breaking it. I would say there will be no funds frozen or account banned if users had read the TOS carefully and if they are not abusing the casino. Not unless the accusation is true, there are cases that casinos do this to avoid paying their users. But trusted casinos stick to their TOS, and we must face that there are users who abuse casinos' promotions or even avoid KYC due to country restrictions and yet use VPN to gamble.
Yes, there’s no perfect business as well as perfect users or players. And even if casinos perform into almost in perfection, there will always be users who tend to become foolish and abusive, and abiding with the rules seems very hard for them. That is why we can’t blame casinos if they act being rude sometimes like delaying payouts so that those users will learn their lesson eventually, and start following the ToS in gambling.
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December 13, 2022, 09:27:24 PM |
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As OP have said each and every casino have got scam accusation made by users. In most of the case there won't be solid proof. Casinos always take a chance to profit and when things didn't work they comply with the terms of service and try to restrict the users winning streak. This leads to making of scam accusation, proper proof added and the same gets solved by the casino to keep its reputation. This is quite common and some platforms never think of the accusations and continues to do the same which affects its reputation.
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December 13, 2022, 09:30:08 PM |
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There's no perfect business. Some users are complaining before even reading the TOS and not noticing that they are breaking it. I would say there will be no funds frozen or account banned if users had read the TOS carefully and if they are not abusing the casino. Not unless the accusation is true, there are cases that casinos do this to avoid paying their users. But trusted casinos stick to their TOS, and we must face that there are users who abuse casinos' promotions or even avoid KYC due to country restrictions and yet use VPN to gamble.
Yes, there’s no perfect business as well as perfect users or players. And even if casinos perform into almost in perfection, there will always be users who tend to become foolish and abusive, and abiding with the rules seems very hard for them. That is why we can’t blame casinos if they act being rude sometimes like delaying payouts so that those users will learn their lesson eventually, and start following the ToS in gambling. This is true! Situations like this cant really be avoided which it would really be normal for a casino to have these kind of measures on the time that they do see a certain user or gambler do really make out some violation. Casinos wont really be blocking out withdrawals if there would be no problems but we know that not all users do really have the same behavior and some of them are really indeed abusive. Its not really that a bad habit and we're talking about legit and known casinos on here.For those scam and shady ones then i wont really be get that surprised on why they do get lots of complaints but eventually these businesses wont really last long on longer runs.
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December 13, 2022, 09:34:00 PM |
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Always remember that, no matter how good you wish to present yourself, people must definitely talk I'll about you and casinos aren't exempted when it comes to this. Some of this people that go to Ann groups of reputable casinos to make negative remarks are either doing so out of anger or possibly shared hatred. One of the issues you mentioned was delayes withdrawal and this isn't necessarily associated with a casino or should we say that a casino shouldn't be blamed so much on this issues of delayed withdrawal because this could possibly be as a result of poor network which is also similar with most of our local banks. I just hope you stay safe from unnecessary expenses.
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December 13, 2022, 09:36:06 PM |
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Not all accusation will eventually be won by the accuser, but some will be won by the casino. I think some accusations are made in an attempt to damage the reputation of the casino, while others are made because the gambler made a mistake and demanded the funds, the rest of the time the casino is guilty. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum? Some of the problems start from the casino's own fault, they just want to cheat the customer. A lot of problems also stem from gamblers' mistakes where they don't actually read the TOS properly. There were indeed many accusations and problems for the casino, but we were able to find reasons and answers when both parties started to clarify the matter. For reputable casinos they will cooperate to solve problems, but for those who want to cheat customers they want to do nothing and are more likely to let their customers continue complaining with no final solution.
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December 13, 2022, 09:36:37 PM |
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I think lumping every single casino with an ANN thread here as being ripe with issues/problems is a bit unfair perhaps. I certainly don't disagree that most seem to have complaints of some kind, but I also think we have to look at the people who are doing the complaining pretty closely too. I think some of it is just miscommunication, not understanding the rules etc.
Now don't get me wrong there's plenty of accusations which stand true, and thankfully we have an avenue to expose those here on the forum.
Sometimes when we hear different complaints for a casino, we always jump to a conclusion that this casino is pretty bad and does not earn it’s credibility. But actually, it’s not the casino that is at fault but those users who never care of listening the point of the casino and end up harassing the company. Yes, it may be some sort of miscommunication, or the problem is really on the side of the user who gamble following his own rules, not the gambling casino rules.
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December 13, 2022, 09:47:58 PM |
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
Since the casino is a business, in business it is not totally possible to satisfy every client. Some clients who have the bad character of never being satisfied and always complaining about everything will never be satisfied and will always have complaints about the service of any casino they use. Some people complain unnecessarily and every business usually has one of these kind of persons as clients, every now and then. A casino that has one or two complaints can still be trusted depending on the kind of complaints, but a casino with very many unresolved cases and complaints should be avoided.
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December 13, 2022, 09:48:47 PM |
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Imho every post praising a casino/business and every post calling a business to be scam, all have to be taken with a grain of salt.
True indeed but you know there are other part of the story too. In many cases, we have seen casino takes the advantage all the time; even some big/reputed names will be there if we list them (I don't want to name them here). Can't they solve all these accusations/problems in a better way? Imagine, someone have written a scam accusation here. Casinos try to solve that issue but there are gamblers who don't have idea how to deal with such issues. Do casinos ever care for them? No.
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December 13, 2022, 09:52:03 PM |
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There's no perfect casino if we'll choose to be a critic of most of them. That's why we see every single little thing to them as something big for others to deal with it. In reality, those that are satisfied with the casinos they're playing with. Even if there are little issues, they'll just let it pass as if nothing has happened because they're doing good with them. It's like any other service that we use and utilities that we have, there would always be the complaints that they're receiving from various types of customers.
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December 13, 2022, 09:54:09 PM |
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What do you expect? That is why it's called a scam accusation because all posts there must only be a scam but there are false accusation sometimes made by those newbies. Of course there will always be false accusations, but in the end it's just futile. Strong evidence must be provided when someone wants to fight the casino, without proof they are just wasting your time. There must be a reason on why a good casino can confiscate funds and it could be because their player have done some abuse. Delayed withdrawals are normal and should not be reported as a scam immediately. It is hoped that there will be a solution to every problem, but for abuse on the part of players it should be considered a mistake. Gamblers have the responsibility to comply with the casino rules, while the casino must obey its own rules. If there is a problem then I think the casino will try to solve it wisely, unless the casino is really a scam.
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December 13, 2022, 09:59:24 PM |
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It is good to read and abide to the ToS of a gambling site for you to avoid issues, most issues is because the victim do not obey the casino site rules. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
How about Livecasino.io? I have not noticed any complain about the site to seize customers money, not because I wear the casino site signature, but I have not seen any new opened thread about someone complaining about the site. Maybe I means one or two, I am not quite sure. But you can not only blame casinos, you should also blame customers for not abidong to the rules. I think the reason why some casinos resort into showing bad habits because they are triggered by the negative attitudes of the different users. Some may always try to follow and abide with the rules, but others may seem very unprofessional and even change the rules when gambling and then demands for quick payout, and once their demands are not given, then they start giving negative feedbacks on the casino. This kind of attitude is really annoying. That is why casinos have no choice but sometimes give them what they’re looking for.
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December 13, 2022, 09:59:48 PM |
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The first thing any casino user should do is to not get carried away bye sign-up bonuses and other bonuses. It is very paramount not every prospective casino use your read the terms and condition of using the casino. Not just read but read to understand before getting carried away with the bonus package. Most casino users are reactionary in their actions what I mean is the jumping they do not read the terms and conditions and then they jump out. Granted not all casinos are there are good they're actually terrible ones with terrible services are there in the actually good casinos and they also deserve praises as well or commendation.
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December 13, 2022, 10:04:50 PM |
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Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Casinos has terms and condition, if the player is found breaching these terms, their account will likely get penazied, etheir by suspension or freezing the fund worst being blocked or banned. Casino must implement their TOS or else they will be exploited by ill-intent players. Why they can't operate without having any issues? There won't be issue if the player read and abide the casino terms (For reputable casinos) but for shady casino, this is their way of collecting free money, taking advantage of their vague TOS and accused players of either money laundering or exploiting bonus via multi-accounting. They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
Some players always do shit too. Not because someone has an accusation of a casino means the casino is at fault. We have seen lots of complaints here pointing out their finger to casino being greedy but when things comes to light, players are the one exploiting the casino. This only means that faulty action can be either of the two parties so we should not judge things until all is proven by valid proof.
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December 13, 2022, 10:05:55 PM |
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
if you look at the negative side of the casino maybe you won't know what mistakes their gamblers made, sometimes they are caught playing unfairly on bonuses provided by casinos so they freeze their accounts and forbid them to withdraw money from there, as long as you play well without breaking the rules in the casino everything will be fine, I don't think there will be a perfect casino everything must have a little mistake but sometimes the mistake doesn't come from the casino but from the behavior of the gamblers
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December 13, 2022, 10:14:36 PM |
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
^Sometimes it is just a misunderstanding and also could be an abuse of the casino. Gamblers who did not read the TOS will always fall into this, they don't know the rules and once they got frozen their account they start to complain. There is no perfect casino and that is the same for humans and also a player that wanted to take advantage of the casino, as long as there is this kind of attitude, it is expected always that there is a complaints. But if the case did not solve and frequently happens in the casino, that is a bad sign not to use them.
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December 13, 2022, 10:20:45 PM |
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Not all casinos have bad intentions. It depends on which casino you play at and what the reputation is like. Then you also have the fact that not everything is a bad intention. A casino that does not pay out within 24 hours does not necessarily mean that it is a bad casino, for example. It depends on how the user is in it. A payout is most important for the user to receive it as soon as possible. You could also think of certain limits when gambling, which is also very annoying for certain users if they want to bet high.
You forgot to mention at least one big casino with a bad or worse reputation and of course, you cannot mention 1XBIT because you are wearing its signature, some casinos are really scamming their players and always get away with it, and there are casinos that can address the accusation because the players are the one at fault here, the most important thing is gamblers are aware of those issues and if those issues are valid then its better take out these casinos to your list. Casinos must not continue doing their business when they are ignoring the accusations, because those accusations always point to them, and its their reference here.
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December 13, 2022, 10:35:28 PM |
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
^Sometimes it is just a misunderstanding and also could be an abuse of the casino. Gamblers who did not read the TOS will always fall into this, they don't know the rules and once they got frozen their account they start to complain. There is no perfect casino and that is the same for humans and also a player that wanted to take advantage of the casino, as long as there is this kind of attitude, it is expected always that there is a complaints. But if the case did not solve and frequently happens in the casino, that is a bad sign not to use them. It isn't an abuse of a casino if a player got banned because of a breach of contract (TOS). The rules are there, all the player do is to read it but failed to. It is also not a misunderstanding. If the casino find your account suspicious, they will suspend it and communicate to you asking for a document to prove your innocence. The reputable casino always communicates with their player when an issue arises. They also give the player a chance to clear their account of any suspicion but if the player failed to prove that his account is clean, then his account will be locked. Funds in the account is of course subject to the terms and agreement the player signed. If the terms said it will be confiscated then the player will have nothing to do with it since the player had signed it.
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December 13, 2022, 10:43:03 PM |
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Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino.
Because we are living in a perfect world 🙃 Well, this is not only for casinos, every services mostly do, that's why customer support is an existing job too to cater this kind of situations. Sometimes this is not all about casino's fault, usually this is from users who doesn't know how to read and follow its terms, rules, etc. Plus, complains are existing to make services improve, well, sometimes. And also, there will be always an unfair treatment of casino supports every once in a while, unfair and one sided terms. That even a law abiding users sometimes get victimize for such terms, but it will be solve if as soonest as possible if casinos really care. But honestly speaking, most complains really comes from stubborn entitled users and problematic gamblers, there are a lot of them who just want to use their trick and complain and come up to tell everyone that they just do this and that to make them look innocent.
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December 13, 2022, 10:46:08 PM |
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I feel like many people have already mentioned the important part which is the difference between accusations and real fault. Anybody can accuse a casino of doing something bad for no reason, that's why the section is called scam accusations but not scams. To be a scam the accusation has to be proven.
Of course there are real scams in the space not every casino is clean but we have this forum so that we can share our stories and know who to stick with and which sites to avoid.
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