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December 14, 2022, 08:38:32 AM
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Every business that is run will have problems, be it big or small problems because the competition in business is very tight. The problem may have arisen because of a misunderstanding between the user and the service support party so they complained to the ANN thread and hoped to find a solution. Naturally, almost every casino will encounter a problem with their business. If the casino is serious about solving it, they will help users provide a solution. And trusted casinos always do that because service to their members is something they always pay attention to.

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December 14, 2022, 08:46:46 AM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

For the big ones I can say that they resolve these accusation in a really short amount of time when these accusations are valid.In most of the cases the accusations that you are mentioning here are not directed at these big reputable casinos but to new ones and usually are confiscated funds without a valid reason because that casino has not enough money in that moment so they buy time,usually also the ones who want to become good big ones resolve it but they leave the funds only to be played in the casino and we all know what happens in such case,the gambler keeps playing until he loses money.

So for me the truly huge ones are scam accusation free or they are not valid accusations most of the time.

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December 14, 2022, 08:56:00 AM
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@OP did you know if there's nothing is perfect in this world? I believe any legit projects are really want to being honest and wouldn't do any bad thing to ruin their own reputation, but it's a business where you're trust many people that work on your casino, even you've filtered and choose a professional employee, does it's really guarantee they have a same goal like you?

Any big business will have a problem except the casino is just created and run by one person, so decision is created by him.

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December 14, 2022, 09:42:06 AM
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Imho every post praising a casino/business and every post calling a business to be scam, all have to be taken with a grain of salt.
True indeed but you know there are other part of the story too. In many cases, we have seen casino takes the advantage all the time; even some big/reputed names will be there if we list them (I don't want to name them here). Can't they solve all these accusations/problems in a better way? Imagine, someone have written a scam accusation here. Casinos try to solve that issue but there are gamblers who don't have idea how to deal with such issues. Do casinos ever care for them? No.

I'm not sure what you expect for solving the accusations in a better way. Many of those trying to abuse the system or the bonuses will not admit that and cry they are scammed. Should the casino ask every day "do you remember our ToS? did you read it?"  Cheesy

About the gamblers having no idea on how to handle various situations I am not sure what you mean. If it's bitcoin/transaction related, it's probably the bitcoin community who can/will help, not the casino (when your card is not working you probably have to call the bank, not the shop). If it's casino related is in most cases broken rules.

Of course, I taken now into account the cases the casino wants to play fair, which clearly it's not always the case. For that, other solution than avoiding/boycotting the casino plus filling well-documented scam accusation I don't know what one can do. Of course, if it's big amount, the law enforcement agencies are also an option.

But about "do casinos ever care for them" it's debatable. Does each shop have nice staff and help you out? No. Some few do, most don't. I guess that it's pretty much similar with the casinos.

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December 14, 2022, 09:53:07 AM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there.
As much as this may be true, I think it's the customer's with the real problem and this happens because most never read terms and conditions of the casino and when caught on the wrong side always want to cry foul.

Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos?
And why are these complaints similar if I may ask, certainly bad players of the industry.. Some could be hired to bring down a business with fake issues, some could have used stolen funds or carded to fund their their accounts which is a red flag and a casino will never let such go without addressing the problem.

Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino.
70 percent of the time It's the players with issues and we not the casino. If only customers came clean these issues wouldn't be there!

Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
I think directbet would be a good candidate in this category.

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December 14, 2022, 09:53:22 AM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

I guess it's not that they have bad habits per se, but perhaps they just wanted to remain in this business for so long that sometimes they won't just give in to the pressures of the accusers or the community itself, so they are not willing to settle it.

And if I'm mind mistaken, those who accused casino's are either abusing their system on their own way and think that they can't be find and then they go put their accusations here, or not taking advantage of the casino but casino are not willing to pay them simply as that.

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December 14, 2022, 09:54:13 AM
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@OP did you know if there's nothing is perfect in this world? I believe any legit projects are really want to being honest and wouldn't do any bad thing to ruin their own reputation, but it's a business where you're trust many people that work on your casino, even you've filtered and choose a professional employee, does it's really guarantee they have a same goal like you?

Any big business will have a problem except the casino is just created and run by one person, so decision is created by him.
That is not possible, a single person can not run a casino, except he can divide himself into different places, which is not possible.

It is true that there are different employees in a casino and some can be bad, but do you know that casino users too do violate rules like having multiple accounts when the casino they are playing and betting is telling them in ToS that they should only have one account. Some users are accessing the casino from gambling-banned countries which is cleared stated on the ToS also. Some are providing fake documents.

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December 14, 2022, 09:55:44 AM
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Since you're discuss about any users who make a complaints in accusations section where scam isn't moderated, I will answer you why almost casinos has suffer at least one complaints. Well if you visit the thread and read the whole posts, you will know if most of complaints are because the users didn't follow the terms of services or they're playing victim. They're the one who want to abuse the casino, but they're complaints when the casino flag and freeze their accounts.

But if you read complaints about 1xbit, of course it's legit and the casino is the scammer.

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December 14, 2022, 09:59:02 AM
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@OP did you know if there's nothing is perfect in this world? I believe any legit projects are really want to being honest and wouldn't do any bad thing to ruin their own reputation, but it's a business where you're trust many people that work on your casino, even you've filtered and choose a professional employee, does it's really guarantee they have a same goal like you?

Any big business will have a problem except the casino is just created and run by one person, so decision is created by him.
That's very true because every project will have problems that come up, and that's why the project team is required to be able to handle them properly. This will allow them to become a professional business where their customers will see if the casino is reliable and can be used as the right choice for gambling. No business wants to tarnish its own reputation, and even though there are a lot of cases that happen in their place, they will always try to resolve them properly.

I don't know if one person can solve all the problems that come into his business because it will take longer. And usually, customers don't want to wait too long because they want to see how the casino can solve each problem and how long it will take.

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December 14, 2022, 10:27:14 AM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
There will always be attacks.
You should also consider an attack from another casino to tarnish the name of the other so that its customers will find another. Who's next in line? Them.
I doubt there will be a perfect casino or sportsbook out there, errors will happen that will lead to complaints, and some are lying to their teeth just to gain free money.
But whenever a reputable gambling site had made its roots on how trustworthy they are, we should also look at its side of the story.
The "Customer is always right" belief is so abused.

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December 14, 2022, 12:47:18 PM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino.

there are many casinos on the internet, what happens is that of the many casinos that exist on the internet it is impossible for all of them to provide good services, this is because this is a market that is not regulated, so the casinos are not supervised, they are anonymous and being anonymous owners casinos they know that they may not provide good services that will not be punished, there is no government that will punish some casino that does not provide good service, this can be seen with the license provider for the casinos, even when there are many accusations of scam against a casino X, the license provider of curacao for example does nothing against the casino that would be accused of scam

Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

there are some casinos that are less than 1 year old that still don't have scam allegations, but I must add that stake.com is a very old casino that doesn't have scam allegations against them, some people have created scam allegations, but it has been proven that these were people who were making false accusations, and stake.com casino has always been an honest, reliable and reputable casino. you can search this forum yourself and you won't find any accusations of scam with proof against stake.com

@OP did you know if there's nothing is perfect in this world? I believe any legit projects are really want to being honest and wouldn't do any bad thing to ruin their own reputation, but it's a business where you're trust many people that work on your casino, even you've filtered and choose a professional employee, does it's really guarantee they have a same goal like you?

Any big business will have a problem except the casino is just created and run by one person, so decision is created by him.

there are times when the casino may even have a responsible and honest owner, but its employees and all management are people without feelings and with a great lack of professionalism and ethics and the casino provides bad services, but looking at online casinos I would say that the majority of online casinos it seems that they are being run by immature people, people who do not have an adult age, people who are not prepared to run a casino, because it is not normal for a casino to spend a week to answer a customer email, sometimes even even take 1 month to solve customer problem

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December 14, 2022, 01:35:24 PM
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Accusations, propaganda, or anything you call it but that's simply 'destroying' something's reputation. This isn't new and is not only limited to this industry. If you have popularity always expect people to find something negative in you. But I have this saying "never assume unless proven". Check if those negative feedbacks has proof or supporting evidence with their claim, otherwise ignore.
If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino.

there are many casinos on the internet, what happens is that of the many casinos that exist on the internet it is impossible for all of them to provide good services, this is because this is a market that is not regulated, so the casinos are not supervised, they are anonymous and being anonymous owners casinos they know that they may not provide good services that will not be punished, there is no government that will punish some casino that does not provide good service, this can be seen with the license provider for the casinos, even when there are many accusations of scam against a casino X, the license provider of curacao for example does nothing against the casino that would be accused of scam

Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

there are some casinos that are less than 1 year old that still don't have scam allegations, but I must add that stake.com is a very old casino that doesn't have scam allegations against them, some people have created scam allegations, but it has been proven that these were people who were making false accusations, and stake.com casino has always been an honest, reliable and reputable casino. you can search this forum yourself and you won't find any accusations of scam with proof against stake.com

@OP did you know if there's nothing is perfect in this world? I believe any legit projects are really want to being honest and wouldn't do any bad thing to ruin their own reputation, but it's a business where you're trust many people that work on your casino, even you've filtered and choose a professional employee, does it's really guarantee they have a same goal like you?

Any big business will have a problem except the casino is just created and run by one person, so decision is created by him.

there are times when the casino may even have a responsible and honest owner, but its employees and all management are people without feelings and with a great lack of professionalism and ethics and the casino provides bad services, but looking at online casinos I would say that the majority of online casinos it seems that they are being run by immature people, people who do not have an adult age, people who are not prepared to run a casino, because it is not normal for a casino to spend a week to answer a customer email, sometimes even even take 1 month to solve customer problem
Indeed, every gambling platform has loophole but what would matter at the end of the day is how these gambling sites would handle the problem; would they be ignorant or responsive? Would they provide solution or console the problem?Any action would affect the players' decision whether to stay or not in that particular gambling site. There are many gambling sites to choose from so think why there are people who are loyal to a certain platform. That would speak for it.

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December 14, 2022, 01:37:54 PM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues?

the majority of gambling sites still use the same software as each other, which is the reason why the problems that occur on gambling sites look the same. Apart from that, operators are also still managing the gambling site manually - it causes complaints submitted by customers to be processed for quite a long time and many even have to register tickets. cmiiw

They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

regardless if it is a fake or real report - looks like 99% of gambling sites that are in this forum and not in this forum, have received scam accusations from users.



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December 14, 2022, 01:46:47 PM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

The thing is what if most of these accusations are done by trolls hired by some gambling site to target another gambling site.  I'm not accusing anybody here but the way how lax the rules are in the forum most of the time, I wouldn't really be surprised if that was the case.  I mean name the most scammy gambling site there is in BCT then ask yourself how long have they been operating and why are they even still allowed to operate?  Shouldn't they be shit down by LE by now?

And why would a gambling site scam their own customers?  Wouldn't that be bad for business?

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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

     Even if you are on your OP you know that there is no perfect casino here cryptocurrency right? Almost all of the well-known casinos here that I have seen in signature campaigns weekly have only had issues that I have read, and most of them have been users on their platform whose problem was abusive.

And the others are still making up a story to destroy gambling that for them they were cheated and robbed, but the truth is that it is not really.



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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there.
Not all of them there are threads on casino shows resolved and there are accusations that turn out that the accuser is a cheater and the casino did the right thing, anyone can open an accusation but providing evidences and proving that the casino wronged you is a different story.

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Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues?
A casino that wants to build its reputation here will not want an existing thread in the scam section, but they have rules that they want to be implemented to their rules for orderly and compliant, and some of the accusations are based on breaking these rules

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They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
You need to take a look at every thread and weigh who is right and who is wrong and not generalize every thread created there.

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December 14, 2022, 02:30:55 PM
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There's no perfect business.
This is the simple answer to the OP's questions. It happens even in brick and mortar establishments. A highly rated and reviewed restaurants will always have people complaining about their food or service.

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Some users are complaining before even reading the TOS and not noticing that they are breaking it. I would say there will be no funds frozen or account banned if users had read the TOS carefully and if they are not abusing the casino.
Keep in mind that some casinos have changed their TOS over time and I would assume some of their old members were unaware or never notified of such changes. I also remember reading a case where the casino immediately revised the terms when a player opened up a scam accusation against them.
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Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino.

No project without complaints/issues, you will not find even one in this world, not only in gambling industry but in all kind of industry.
Even a big company like Tesla, Apple, Microsoft and others are receiving complaints from their users, is it something that you think uncommon and you consider it as really bad thing?
How can you say that having issues is the same as doing shit without looking at what is the issue and how the owner deal with the issue?

Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

I would even think that if there is a thread where there is no complaints at all as a suspicious.
Simply because I do believe it is normal for casinos to have issues because there is no perfect casinos.




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Keep in mind that some casinos have changed their TOS over time and I would assume some of their old members were unaware or never notified of such changes. I also remember reading a case where the casino immediately revised the terms when a player opened up a scam accusation against them.

As a savvy user seeing the development of a project's TOS will help to avoid some complaints that may not be necessary. Because some members who complain are usually related to problems that actually have solutions. Regarding the various kinds of complaints that have become a business risk, without complaints there will be no progress in the casino project. So it is very necessary to update you about the casino developments that are being followed.


Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

I would even think that if there is a thread where there is no complaints at all as a suspicious.
Simply because I do believe it is normal for casinos to have issues because there is no perfect casinos.


A business without complaints is true to be suspected because no matter how big the business is, there will definitely be some complaints regarding server problems, withdrawals, deposits, etc., that will definitely happen.
A no-complaint casino is probably a failed casino and doesn't have many users.

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December 14, 2022, 02:56:34 PM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

A casino can have a lot of scam accusations but still enjoy the trust of the community and its representative respected that's because these accusations are baseless, cannot hold ground, and backfire on those who file these complaints this is a forum, anyone is open to creating an accusation but they need to have solid proof and can prove without a doubt that they are right and the casino is wrong, all the top casinos here like Stake, Duelbits and other top casinos have a lot of accusations but they still enjoy the trust of the community because those accusations fell short.

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