Why every casino got bad habits?

[harizen]

Why they can't operate without having any issues?

There's no perfect business in every field and industry. What's the problem with that if in the first place, the companies are settling the issues?

If those issues are not being addressed properly, then that's the time we can call that company a shi*ty one. Also depends on the issues as sometimes, complaints about casinos don't have enough basis to prove the site's crappy service.

Might be better if you point out some specific threads as examples.

[maydna]

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There are still some reputable websites that are giving good reviews even if not because they are paid to do so. Newbies are the victim of this as they are new to this, if they don't do thorough research then they will be going to the bad casino. Also google results right now are very hard to trust since those top 1 results kind of they are getting paid to review bad casinos and we can't blame them but it is very biased as they are giving wrong info.

Beginners who find casinos from search engines from reputable websites are really lucky because they can find casino sites that are valid and can be used as a favorite place to play gambling. But for others who can't find it, it will be in the wrong place causing them to run into scams. The results from Google now are very different from a few years ago because we often find results that are not what we are looking for. This is why we have to be really careful in looking for one so that we don't use a bad casino.

[madnessteat]

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Google is a centralized ecosystem that only cares about making money, so don't be surprised if you come across phishing links or outright fraud in the first lines of search results.

In general, I would not advise to search for casino reviews or casinos on Google. Even this forum can provide more valuable information to a gambler than some custom-made article issued in a google search.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

There are members here who literally make it their job to harass companies and demand extortion payments to stop. It’s a shame and I’m not sure if any of these casinos ever pay off these troublemakers, but you should take everything with a grain of salt.

I can not guarantee about the demand extortion payments but it's obvious some members make it their day job to become scam busters. It's one of the easiest path to get merit, become popular in the DT network. I don't think before the merit system there were many people who were too interested to scam busting. Lauda was only one among very few. It will be an interesting idea to see the data of scam busters before and after merit was introduced. Let me bring the Bot (LoyceV) or may be TryNinja LOL

Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

Have you considered the newbie accounts who has only one intention to write bad comments about any casino that launch in the community? I think there is a group of people who are working actively to spread fear to the businesses that bitcointalk forum is a bad place for a new business.

[coinerer]

Nowadays many new casino sites are constantly being created and promoted in this forum, sometimes some casino sites are declared as scams but I have never seen any scam accusations  with trusted casino sites so those who are scam aaccusations are open.  Can never be considered a reputable casino . Various casinos come up with their new concepts.  So sometimes scam accusation  are opened against those sites because of some bugs in their new concepts.

[leonair]

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Google is a centralized ecosystem that only cares about making money, so don't be surprised if you come across phishing links or outright fraud in the first lines of search results.

In general, I would not advise to search for casino reviews or casinos on Google. Even this forum can provide more valuable information to a gambler than some custom-made article issued in a google search.

Google gives more priority to those sites and shows on the first page of its search results that the sites are very fast and the sites that Google Algorithm consider to be more informative.  For which many sites hire SEO services to rank their website in Google. In this case, some phishing site owners or some scam site owners hire SEO experts for some money and try to rank their sites in Google.  In this case, some sites are successful and if anyone invests in these sites, they get scammed. But Google always tries to give its users a best search result

[molsewid]

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

Some of the things that you have said is on going issues that cannot be avoided I mean for example delayed withdrawal might be because of the network issues a lot of traffics happen in the blockchain whether it is holiday season or not still we can feel this slowness, regarding to some issues like freezing account maybe user should read TOS as well, if he has the right then he can complain.

[Johnyz]

Nowadays many new casino sites are constantly being created and promoted in this forum, sometimes some casino sites are declared as scams but I have never seen any scam accusations  with trusted casino sites so those who are scam aaccusations are open.  Can never be considered a reputable casino . Various casinos come up with their new concepts.  So sometimes scam accusation  are opened against those sites because of some bugs in their new concepts.

You probably missed a lot of topics about this one, even stake have their own issues simply because no one is perfect here.
Every casino have their own flaws, the only difference with the best site compare to other is that the way they handle those problems and most of the top site they are able to solve it. Maybe this is not a bad habit for those top sites, maybe this is just their precautionary measure to protect the site and be more secured, if you are not doing anything wrong then you don't have to worry as long as its a good site.

[ultrloa]

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

Hard to seek a perfect casino because all of them will encounter an issue but atleast we can see some of them are really working well to solve the issues encountered by their costumer and still to many reputable casino still doing that.

Those problem remind us not to trust to much on different platforms since even if they perform very well each of them still have vulnerabilities and we can save us our funds by securing it to our wallets and deposit only the figures we use to bet that we can also afford to lose.

[jrrsparkles]

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

Accusation against a casino doesn't necessarily mean the casino got bad reputation, if you look at the thread most of them will not be a valid accusation. Yes there can be account on hold, delayed withdrawal, temporary or permanent suspension of the account but casino will have valid reason for doing it and there will not be much accusation if the users abide all the ToS of a casino.

[ufaiz50]

Yes, this seems unfair to the part of the players. But if we come to think of it, casinos have publicised such policies for the players to see before they would finally decide to open an account to them, so the players must know what they are getting themselves into. Casinos wouldn’t placed such policy without purpose, and the intention may be good or bad, to clean inactive account out of their system or to simply take advantage of players’ money. Even so, I think there should be a new system and solution on how casinos must approach and deal with inactive accounts, especially those considered as ghost accounts now.

[Moneyprism]

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

it is impossible for an online platform not to experience problems for their users, even large platforms like Facebook or Google which have a team of professionals and experts in the IT field often experience problems with their users,, especially online casino platforms, most of which are still in the development stage, of course users will experience various problems when using the platform

[rahmad2nd]

Yes, this seems unfair to the part of the players. But if we come to think of it, casinos have publicised such policies for the players to see before they would finally decide to open an account to them, so the players must know what they are getting themselves into. Casinos wouldn’t placed such policy without purpose, and the intention may be good or bad, to clean inactive account out of their system or to simply take advantage of players’ money. Even so, I think there should be a new system and solution on how casinos must approach and deal with inactive accounts, especially those considered as ghost accounts now.

Unfair as what you mean, I think we have to look at the case by case first. after all, if a casino that has a high reputation will not carelessly suspend their user accounts. especially if the problem doesn't stem from the casino, I'm sure nothing will happen that makes the customer feel uncomfortable and insecure. related to late withdrawals and others, this is a problem that can happen. maybe, there are some technical problems that prevent the incoming balance from taking longer than usual. and actually, we can also ask in the service section regarding the things that are our problem.

Casinos that have a good reputation will not ignore their customers, especially matters of a complaint nature. they will review the problem first, before giving an explanation. after all, there are many users who rarely read the ToS they have provided as their rule procedures.

By the way, so far I haven't had any serious problems from our favorite casino. whether it's a withdrawal, or related to a deposit.

[serjent05]

Almost all casinos promoting their services on this forum have one or few open scam accusation threads against them. Does this mean all of them are scams? Definitely not!
If you check carefully those accusations you will find most of them (especially those against reputable casinos) are baseless and the accuser will just leave after whining for a while.
Many gamblers breach the casino's ToS then come here to complain when his account get banned. Some just don't accept loosing and think they were cheated. In other cases it reveals it's a simple misunderstanding and such cases usually get resolved quickly.

Yeah, I agree with you.  Not because a casino has one or two scam accusations is a scam casino.  These accusations should establish valid proof first but often times these people who accused reputable casino is the one exploiting the casino and was butt hurt when the casino found out their mischief.

So I think the title of this thread is quite offensive to those casinos that is reputable enough that they do just or fair decision on every case of their player.  Not because there are a few rotten casino means all casinos are the same.  Do not generalize all casinos because they have a different approach to every problem and case the casino encounters.

[piebeyb]

Nowadays many new casino sites are constantly being created and promoted in this forum, sometimes some casino sites are declared as scams but I have never seen any scam accusations  with trusted casino sites so those who are scam aaccusations are open.  Can never be considered a reputable casino . Various casinos come up with their new concepts.  So sometimes scam accusation  are opened against those sites because of some bugs in their new concepts.

even well-known casino sites on this forum there are people who accuse fraud as an example of Stake, there are some who accuse the casino of stealing someone's deposit money while the Stake team has published the person's mistake for violating the rules, in fact many people don't always read the rules at the casino because it's important so they don't lose money just because of cheating, that's all even the community on this forum always provides information which casinos are good and bad so fraud doesn't happen

[maydna]

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Google is a centralized ecosystem that only cares about making money, so don't be surprised if you come across phishing links or outright fraud in the first lines of search results.

In general, I would not advise to search for casino reviews or casinos on Google. Even this forum can provide more valuable information to a gambler than some custom-made article issued in a google search.

Today, Google has changed from a few years ago, where we can still find information that might be considered valid. But now, so much information we don't need is already showing up in Google that it's confusing.

I also prefer to find information or reviews about online casinos from this forum because there are many reviews from members who are really honest about the casino. They are reliable in providing those reviews, so we know which websites are good and which are not.

[dothebeats]

Most issues raised against huge gambling platforms and long-term casinos can be solved by reading a few lines on the ToS or just the mechanics on promos and whatnot. Also, one should expect that casinos will regularly run into problems, but that doesn't mean that the casino is already scamming people or are actively trying to do wrong against its userbase. Of course, there are some bad apples here and there, but there are still good casinos out there that are worth noticing on how they handle these accusations and ensuring that those will never happen again.

[rahmad2nd]

Related to the post of Op thread, I guess withdrawal delay issue is normal. after all, the problem could be a system failure or some other technical issue which causes withdrawals to be delayed. related to confiscated funds, not paying winnings, account freezing, these are issues that have attracted quite a lot of attention from us. However, as long as we don't make mistakes and are in the right place. I am not sure, that the casino platform will not pay out the legitimate winnings of its users. especially for the problem of suspending the account, if it does not violate the rules as stated in their ToS. I'm sure a reputable casino wouldn't do such reckless things. moreover, if its use does not violate the rules or violate their policies.

anyway, so far we're fine isn't it. even without the slightest problem. so, if there are accusations that are baseless, especially at one of the casinos on our forum, they must be accompanied by evidence and data as reinforcement. as long as it's just what other people say, without any evidence, we'll ignore it. and it is very important to read the ToS of existing casinos.

[uneng]

Accusation against a casino doesn't necessarily mean the casino got bad reputation, if you look at the thread most of them will not be a valid accusation. Yes there can be account on hold, delayed withdrawal, temporary or permanent suspension of the account but casino will have valid reason for doing it and there will not be much accusation if the users abide all the ToS of a casino.

Yes, everyone can be accused of anything by anyone, the point is to show valid proofs of what the casinos are being accused. Every big companies are subjected of being accused of something, because with so many customers, it's expected at least one or another are going to have some issues with the company and maybe the companies involved aren't doing this on purpose. They are ran by humans and humans aren't perfect beings. Mistakes are commited, but the most important is how these services are solving the issues they find themselves involved on. To apologize and give active, integral support to customers until the end is part of the process. To be transparent with the community explaining why those issues are happening is a must in order to keep and maintain their reputation intact.

[Viscore]

Answer is Reading Comprehension

Many gambler playing just into those gambling casino without even having time reading with the terms and conditions such as the faqs. As long as they see the bonuses or ever that requires to play, they quickly deposit and play, and after they win a good profit, they make a withdrawal immediately it's pretty suspicious to the casino too if this happen because the account does not even last long for a week to play and win and make an instant withdrawal they might probably tag as abusing the system.

This is why a casino has its own action too against the suspicious gambler, which will then make some of the gamblers jump to a conclusion that casinos have their own bad habits against gamblers. Because if this will not be done by casinos, those gamblers who have the same attitude will abuse the casino system and will continue doing that if they are always tolerated.