Fiat and crypto and stock is bs, but property is real

[AbuBhakar]

You didn’t consider the life span of the property which can devalued it same with crypto, stocks and fiat that changing in value. You probably are old school investors which only believes on what you physically see. I don’t blame you because I have a lot of grandpa and uncle that only invest on physical things and avoid those intangible investment.

Things that you don’t fully understand shouldn’t be categorized as bs since most billionaire exist due to the bs that you are talking about. Most of the billionaire money is on there stocks to make it profitable and safe since banks can’t give insurance on all of them.

[1714666655]

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[o48o]

I’m sure it’s very great rebuttal.
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Why don’t you ever consult woman once in your life about what exactly is “stock”?

Ok, all this is nonsensical and somehow genders and a god gets involved. Many women own stocks, so what you are saying is just insane. I don't even know where to start or what's your point. So let's stay on point and go something you said earlier:

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... and in the end they get thin air certificate that tell them they’re entitled to the business, it’s so funny investor are so gullible.
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That's what happens when you buy a property, you can walk in a house you own for sure, but you literally only own it only on legal paper like you own stocks (or as signed in digital contract). Like you literally own part of the company and more you own, more you control and are responsible of.

[mk4]

When elon bought all the Twitter stocks didn't he bought the whole company?

I’m sure it’s very great rebuttal. But I would use woman as a litmus test to what exactly is this bullshit, whenever I tell woman to invest into stock, she would avoid it at any cost, but this bs only work on man specifically, that’s strange. It’s apparent woman has smell the bullshit even miles away from the snake oil salesman, as usual low EQ creatures like man often has curiosity to think otherwise, can you lie to woman? It’s not easy to lie to woman but it’s apparent so much easier to lie to man, man are some of the most easily manipulated gender ever existed and it’s all God’s will, god create man to be retarded and easily scammed, back to topic, stock is stock, business is business, after hundreds years its still the same stock is stock, you cant equal stock and business and woman has smelled that bs easily, earlier than any man can do, it’s once again man fall into it and after losing trillions of dollar into it but still too stubborn to realise how bs they’re buying into stock. Why don’t you ever consult woman once in your life about what exactly is “stock”?

It was such a great rebuttal that for some reason you made a response that doesn't even closely refute o48o's response.

^Add the fact that this wasn't even the first time someone made a total acquisition of a public company lmao.

[savetheFORUM]

You said Fiat is bullshit but you need it to build properties 🤦

Just listen to yourself mate, if money doesn't make sense to you then avoid doing anything with money, I wonder what you can do without Fiat, Crypto is just making the whole thing decentralized and digital.

You got a point there but I think that wasn't the op wants to imply. He is trying to say that property is a real thing or has a physical appearance while cryptos and stocks do not have it. As for the fiats, they do have a physical appearance but they aren't an investment. They are simply a currency that we used daily for purchasing goods.

Even though stocks and cryptos are digital. They are still considered as an assets that you can invest and make a profit with. Being digital do actually have an advantage because they are easy to keep and you can have different kinds of them. While a property investment is something that is hassle in my opinion.

[Bitcoin1216]

Surely this depends on the place of property, I also bought property in an area that looks good, but when I want to sell the house at this time, the offer from the buyer is lower than I bought 4 years ago, the house certainly has its own risk because there are many factors influence, and I suggest to invest other than home.

[Alpha Marine]

I think you're one of those that just prefers what you can see. You're limited that way. None of them is bs. They're all investment. So if you choose one over the other it doesn't mean the others a bs. Have an open mind to things that's the only way you can learn about things you don't understand.

[KingsDen]

Fiat and crypto and stock is bs, but property although is just concrete but it is real.

I know all stock investor loss money and some of them are killed, but not all property investor loss money, when Elon Musk said crypto is as bs as fiat, I challenge him to prove me property is anything resembling bs.

When you buy into stock, you get snake oil, but promised it’s indeed a “business”, stock =/= business wake up. When you buy into property you indeed get the concrete box, you indeed get what you paid for, I don’t know what stock investor actually buying into, they tell me they’re buying a stock and it is a business, I try to fathom whatever they said, but stock is stock, business is business, you can’t mix something that’s totally different word by word, or context by context, or content by content, it’s snake oil and they’re buying into delusional snake oil and in the end they get thin air certificate that tell them they’re entitled to the business, it’s so funny investor are so gullible. But what is there to say, when I tell them, they’re scammed they don’t believe me and even being very hostile on me and call me retard, they think they’re getting the business when they buy the stock, what give?

You don't just underscore the value of Fiat. If you said that property is better than stock or even cryptocurrency it is greatly debatable but where you include Fiat which is the basis on which properties are acquired, it does not make much sense. Let us assume that you buy up to 12 landed properties, you cannot obviously live on 12 of them. You will hold some and allow them to appreciate in the future and you resell. So the idea is not to have a lot of money in a bank either you use it to buy crypto, stocks or landed properties such that whenever they appreciate you resell and have Fiat to buy more and the cycle continues .
There is no how you will value what money can buy but not value money.

[Bananington]

Fiat and crypto and stock is bs, but property although is just concrete but it is real.

I know all stock investor loss money and some of them are killed, but not all property investor loss money,

Not all property investors loose money, but some do, there is no complete assurance for any form of investment, the important thing is that,  have investments that have high chances of good ROI. Investment in crypto is good, investment in stock is good, Investment in property is also good. If it is possible to invest in all three, and it is within your means, you can so long as you can manage the risk. If it is a choice to choose two out of the three to invest in, my choice will be cryptocurrency first and Property investment. I think the demand for accomodation and land to buy will never cease, property investment is also advisable to me together with crypto even better than stocks.

[fullhdpixel]

You said Fiat is bullshit but you need it to build properties 🤦

Just listen to yourself mate, if money doesn't make sense to you then avoid doing anything with money, I wonder what you can do without Fiat, Crypto is just making the whole thing decentralized and digital.

You got a point there but I think that wasn't the op wants to imply. He is trying to say that property is a real thing or has a physical appearance while cryptos and stocks do not have it. As for the fiats, they do have a physical appearance but they aren't an investment. They are simply a currency that we used daily for purchasing goods.

Even though stocks and cryptos are digital. They are still considered as an assets that you can invest and make a profit with. Being digital do actually have an advantage because they are easy to keep and you can have different kinds of them. While a property investment is something that is hassle in my opinion.

Having a digital investment is far superior than having a physical one. Even though it would be hard to lose a gold bar for example because you would hide it very well, even put it in a bank safety box, its at least possible, or fiat banknotes, or house burning down, whatever it is a physical thing could be destroyed.

Digital ones can't be, you could be scammed, or even lose your key phrases and all, but normally if you do not make any mistakes its there and there forever which means you will not lose it. Plus its easier to control, its a few buttons and you click them and either buy or sell, that is a much better and easier method then going and buying a whole house.

[CageMabok]

Surely this depends on the place of property, I also bought property in an area that looks good, but when I want to sell the house at this time, the offer from the buyer is lower than I bought 4 years ago, the house certainly has its own risk because there are many factors influence, and I suggest to invest other than home.

Houses also have models that vary greatly each year, so when a model house that was built four years ago is being sold again this year in a condition that is still usable, there is clearly a slightly lower price offer because buyers may also sell it again at a lower price. the more expensive one after revamping it to a newer model. Or it could be for his own place to live in this world, so he asks for a slightly cheaper price than what you bought before.

I think you're one of those that just prefers what you can see. You're limited that way. None of them is bs. They're all investment. So if you choose one over the other it doesn't mean the others a bs. Have an open mind to things that's the only way you can learn about things you don't understand.

What you say may have some truth to it, because when a person is limited by the things he can see for investment opportunities. So he will not invest in things that are not visible or that cannot be seen by other people against his investment assets. And usually such people are very afraid of investing in assets like Bitcoin so they will tend to choose assets that are clearly visible such as land and property or housing.

[Lanatsa]

You said Fiat is bullshit but you need it to build properties 🤦

Just listen to yourself mate, if money doesn't make sense to you then avoid doing anything with money, I wonder what you can do without Fiat, Crypto is just making the whole thing decentralized and digital.

You got a point there but I think that wasn't the op wants to imply. He is trying to say that property is a real thing or has a physical appearance while cryptos and stocks do not have it. As for the fiats, they do have a physical appearance but they aren't an investment. They are simply a currency that we used daily for purchasing goods.

Even though stocks and cryptos are digital. They are still considered as an assets that you can invest and make a profit with. Being digital do actually have an advantage because they are easy to keep and you can have different kinds of them. While a property investment is something that is hassle in my opinion.

Having a digital investment is far superior than having a physical one. Even though it would be hard to lose a gold bar for example because you would hide it very well, even put it in a bank safety box, its at least possible, or fiat banknotes, or house burning down, whatever it is a physical thing could be destroyed.

Digital ones can't be, you could be scammed, or even lose your key phrases and all, but normally if you do not make any mistakes its there and there forever which means you will not lose it. Plus its easier to control, its a few buttons and you click them and either buy or sell, that is a much better and easier method then going and buying a whole house.

Why would boggle yourself on which one is superior and which one is not? If you do have the money then why cant be having both? which you do have physical and have digital investment which it would really be

giving out that kind of opportunity or chance for you to make money or profits on longer runs.Although its not really that an assured thing but at least you do know that something behind you could be having

other sources when it comes to money and make yourself not able to struggle if you are really in indeed of money. Cant really deny that having real estates or property which does generate income
does really give out that kind of opportunity to make money in passive way but we know that having various sources doesnt matter if its digital or physical then you should
really be having as much as possible.

[19Nov16]

It cannot be denied anymore that immovable assets like property are the safest investment, price fluctuations are very good or can even skyrocket if we are in a strategic area, property prices will continue to rise and this is what makes us have to try to invest in property, and things What we can do if we can't buy cash is installments.

[Kakmakr]

The 2000s United States housing bubble was a real-estate bubble affecting over half of the U.S. states. It was the impetus for the subprime mortgage crisis. Housing prices peaked in early 2006, started to decline in 2006 and 2007, and reached new lows in 2011. Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000s_United_States_housing_bubble

So your theory that everything else are Bullshit.... actually stink, because real-estate had it's share of bullshit too.. and this happens in cycles in many different countries. (Real-estate are very complex, with a lot of things that can go wrong... example : Natural disasters / Rent not being paid / vandalism of your property etc...)

[kapalmabur]

It cannot be denied anymore that immovable assets like property are the safest investment, price fluctuations are very good or can even skyrocket if we are in a strategic area, property prices will continue to rise and this is what makes us have to try to invest in property, and things What we can do if we can't buy cash is installments.

Like a land investment where the price will continue to rise and if you really have money there's nothing wrong with switching there.
but before investing in land we must be observant because if the location is not strategic, of course it will be a loss

[bestcoins1]

It cannot be denied anymore that immovable assets like property are the safest investment, price fluctuations are very good or can even skyrocket if we are in a strategic area, property prices will continue to rise and this is what makes us have to try to invest in property, and things What we can do if we can't buy cash is installments.

Property is a good option as well as a real investment that many people can see firsthand. Obviously it's not a bad choice, but you also need to consider the properties that most people are interested in investing in, because it can help you a little when you want to resell it at a certain time or when you are dying on your own finances.

Like a land investment where the price will continue to rise and if you really have money there's nothing wrong with switching there.
but before investing in land we must be observant because if the location is not strategic, of course it will be a loss

The choice of land is also very good for investment, but you also have to consider land that is located on the side of the main road or not so far from the national road. Because the average person who wants to build a simple building or plantation will definitely look at the land that is close to the road to buy it for the sake of making it easier for them to get access when they want to travel from that place or vice versa.

[panganib999]

Fiat and crypto and stock is bs, but property although is just concrete but it is real.

I know all stock investor loss money and some of them are killed, but not all property investor loss money, when Elon Musk said crypto is as bs as fiat, I challenge him to prove me property is anything resembling bs.

When you buy into stock, you get snake oil, but promised it’s indeed a “business”, stock =/= business wake up. When you buy into property you indeed get the concrete box, you indeed get what you paid for, I don’t know what stock investor actually buying into, they tell me they’re buying a stock and it is a business, I try to fathom whatever they said, but stock is stock, business is business, you can’t mix something that’s totally different word by word, or context by context, or content by content, it’s snake oil and they’re buying into delusional snake oil and in the end they get thin air certificate that tell them they’re entitled to the business, it’s so funny investor are so gullible. But what is there to say, when I tell them, they’re scammed they don’t believe me and even being very hostile on me and call me retard, they think they’re getting the business when they buy the stock, what give?

Let me put it in a language you would understand.
When you buy a stock, you don't buy a literal stock. What you buy is a portion of that company in the form of a share, think of it in property terms since you love real estate so much as co-ownership. I bought a couple bags of cement for you to build the house with, and because I made a purchase that goes towards the collective, I am a part-owner of the house you are building.

As for crypto and fiat, they literally are just money. You use money to buy properties in real estate don't you? So you may not just realize it, but these should make sense to you all in all.


PS: just because price of rent is continuously increasing every year does not mean the housing industry is the best venture. As it stands today the bubble is going to pop any time now, don't quote me on this but if it does happen you'll realize that no form of investment is really better than everything else, it's all a matter of which are you most comfortable placing your trust and money on.

[Iroh]

Surely this depends on the place of property, I also bought property in an area that looks good, but when I want to sell the house at this time, the offer from the buyer is lower than I bought 4 years ago, the house certainly has its own risk because there are many factors influence, and I suggest to invest other than home.

It really does depends on the location where the property is situated. You mentioned you bought a property(a house) in a good location and after 4 years, you wanted reselling the house and got a price lower than what you got it for years earlier.

It’s either you’re bad at bargaining or the location of the property or perhaps even the property itself is shit and isn’t worth it. Cause I’ve always had the thought that land appreciates in value. So, if the land itself appreciates in value over time, the house built on it should be a plus.
I think real estate investments are quite profitable in the long run.

[ethereumhunter]

Surely this depends on the place of property, I also bought property in an area that looks good, but when I want to sell the house at this time, the offer from the buyer is lower than I bought 4 years ago, the house certainly has its own risk because there are many factors influence, and I suggest to invest other than home.

It really does depends on the location where the property is situated. You mentioned you bought a property(a house) in a good location and after 4 years, you wanted reselling the house and got a price lower than what you got it for years earlier.

It’s either you’re bad at bargaining or the location of the property or perhaps even the property itself is shit and isn’t worth it. Cause I’ve always had the thought that land appreciates in value. So, if the land itself appreciates in value over time, the house built on it should be a plus.
I think real estate investments are quite profitable in the long run.

Maybe when he made his choice, he didn't consider how it would develop after another 4-8 years, so it would not go up very high because usually, if the selection of the location of the property is right, the price of the land around the property can go up a lot. This has happened everywhere because when there is a program or project from the government that will run around the property, usually it will be accompanied by an increase in land and property prices around the government project.

My advice is that he can keep hold of the property and wait to sell it, especially if he doesn't need the money urgently and think of it as savings for the future.

[Minecache]

You said Fiat is bullshit but you need it to build properties 🤦

Just listen to yourself mate, if money doesn't make sense to you then avoid doing anything with money, I wonder what you can do without Fiat, Crypto is just making the whole thing decentralized and digital.

You got a point there but I think that wasn't the op wants to imply. He is trying to say that property is a real thing or has a physical appearance while cryptos and stocks do not have it. As for the fiats, they do have a physical appearance but they aren't an investment. They are simply a currency that we used daily for purchasing goods.

Even though stocks and cryptos are digital. They are still considered as an assets that you can invest and make a profit with. Being digital do actually have an advantage because they are easy to keep and you can have different kinds of them. While a property investment is something that is hassle in my opinion.

Having a digital investment is far superior than having a physical one. Even though it would be hard to lose a gold bar for example because you would hide it very well, even put it in a bank safety box, its at least possible, or fiat banknotes, or house burning down, whatever it is a physical thing could be destroyed.

Digital ones can't be, you could be scammed, or even lose your key phrases and all, but normally if you do not make any mistakes its there and there forever which means you will not lose it. Plus its easier to control, its a few buttons and you click them and either buy or sell, that is a much better and easier method then going and buying a whole house.

Why would boggle yourself on which one is superior and which one is not? If you do have the money then why cant be having both? which you do have physical and have digital investment which it would really be

giving out that kind of opportunity or chance for you to make money or profits on longer runs.Although its not really that an assured thing but at least you do know that something behind you could be having

other sources when it comes to money and make yourself not able to struggle if you are really in indeed of money. Cant really deny that having real estates or property which does generate income
does really give out that kind of opportunity to make money in passive way but we know that having various sources doesnt matter if its digital or physical then you should
really be having as much as possible.

Exactly, why distinguish which one is superior to another? If real estate is better than cryptocurrency, but it can't be profitable for us, is it still called good? We invest, and the end goal is not to determine which is better, but what is important is which gives us good returns. People won't care what you do, they only care about the results you get, so take advantage of every opportunity to make a profit. It doesn't matter whether the investment is physical or digital, all can be profitable, so invest in both.

[Wong Goblog]

Investment, of course, depends on everyone, expensive property prices cannot be reached by most people, especially when you need money it will be difficult and take a long time to sell, while cryptocurrencies are very easy investments and we can make cash at any time, and of course the potential for profit can reach hundreds of percent per year.