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January 06, 2023, 11:57:04 PM
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It's illogical to compare all these with real estate. It's like comparing apples with potatoes—the first one is a fruit, the other a vegetable. Yes, I agree, real estate is probably one of the best—if not the best—investments you can ever make. You can sell it, rent it for passive income, use it for yourself, or a combination of them. Whether we like it or not, housing is becoming more and more expensive; thus, real estate will always be a worthwhile investment. The problem is that if you haven't inherited a property, it's nearly impossible to acquire one yourself nowadays. 

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January 07, 2023, 03:19:52 AM
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Many people will transfer assets to property because they have been proven to be safe assets, immovable assets that always go up even by a small percentage, in my country property prices in cities can increase by more than 100% in 7 years or there is an increase of more than 13% per year, of course when compared to cryptocurrencies the increase of 13% per year is very small but the risk is very small making property always the choice of many people.

Some property investments are indeed very profitable in the long term, but don't get hung up on the benefits that are achieved in the long term, but you have to issue property maintenance data that you have, and that's not with small funds. To take care of property maintenance seems to be a clear investment on a yearly or monthly basis.

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January 07, 2023, 04:21:53 AM
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Crypto investment is the only way the average investor can try their luck on a few coin and stand a chance of catching up with real world investment. Without the invention of Bitcoin and other crypto currency a lot would have remained in trenches.

It is true that crypto or securities cannot be compared with real estate, real estate is still the safest asset. But I will agree with you, without crypto or securities, we who don't have a lot of money will never have a chance to own real estate or any other assets. Cryptocurrency is a rather risky path, but the returns it gives us are well worth it.

Today, thanks to cryptocurrency, many people have changed their position in society, creating many opportunities for young people without money to start a business easily. This is something that no real asset like real estate can do.

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January 07, 2023, 08:42:09 AM
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How to define property? Property already includes material wealth such as your money, house, supplies, land you own, etc. So how do you prove that your property is yours?
When people invest, they will first choose to invest in real estate and stocks. Because that's what the public knows. Of course, some people will choose cryptocurrency, but novices will not choose cryptocurrency at the beginning. He needs market experience.
Since it is property, I think it is safe in my own hands, and I don't trust any organization.
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January 07, 2023, 08:53:19 AM
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It's illogical to compare all these with real estate. It's like comparing apples with potatoes—the first one is a fruit, the other a vegetable. Yes, I agree, real estate is probably one of the best—if not the best—investments you can ever make. You can sell it, rent it for passive income, use it for yourself, or a combination of them. Whether we like it or not, housing is becoming more and more expensive; thus, real estate will always be a worthwhile investment. The problem is that if you haven't inherited a property, it's nearly impossible to acquire one yourself nowadays. 

Exactly. The OP haven't established or have thought that not everybody is capable to own a land or properties these days and convert it to a passive income where you will build a building to make some profits in the future thus getting some benefits as well because the property/land will get more expensive as years goes by. That is why it's hard to own some of it these days because real estate business is not new anymore.

But everyone has the power to own some crypto and stocks because that's much cheaper than owning a land as you can jus by a fraction of it, not wholly, like real estates. But the risks are the same and the owner will still benefit as year goes by.

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January 07, 2023, 09:48:33 AM
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Many people will transfer assets to property because they have been proven to be safe assets, immovable assets that always go up even by a small percentage, in my country property prices in cities can increase by more than 100% in 7 years or there is an increase of more than 13% per year, of course when compared to cryptocurrencies the increase of 13% per year is very small but the risk is very small making property always the choice of many people.

Some property investments are indeed very profitable in the long term, but don't get hung up on the benefits that are achieved in the long term, but you have to issue property maintenance data that you have, and that's not with small funds. To take care of property maintenance seems to be a clear investment on a yearly or monthly basis.
Expenditure calculations for maintenance costs for each property that is owned is clearly very necessary and there must always be a calculation. Because the net profit is seen after knowing all the maintenance costs used for the property. So there is also truth in what you say that everyone who likes to invest in property doesn't have to be fixated on the benefits, but the amount of maintenance costs must also be seen because it's for the sake of making the property look better in the long term.

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January 07, 2023, 12:39:54 PM
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Everyone has different thoughts on fiat, crypto and stocks they have different risks when we run a business so just do what really makes us more confident in doing business to invest because every corner has positive and negative sides but it all depends on the way we have to face, Many people feel cheated by something they do in business but some of them also benefit, so never blame others because we have different views so do what is more meaningful for ourselves.

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January 08, 2023, 06:47:06 AM
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You said Fiat is bullshit but you need it to build properties 🤦

Just listen to yourself mate, if money doesn't make sense to you then avoid doing anything with money, I wonder what you can do without Fiat, Crypto is just making the whole thing decentralized and digital.
You got a point there but I think that wasn't the op wants to imply. He is trying to say that property is a real thing or has a physical appearance while cryptos and stocks do not have it. As for the fiats, they do have a physical appearance but they aren't an investment. They are simply a currency that we used daily for purchasing goods.

Even though stocks and cryptos are digital. They are still considered as an assets that you can invest and make a profit with. Being digital do actually have an advantage because they are easy to keep and you can have different kinds of them. While a property investment is something that is hassle in my opinion.
Having a digital investment is far superior than having a physical one. Even though it would be hard to lose a gold bar for example because you would hide it very well, even put it in a bank safety box, its at least possible, or fiat banknotes, or house burning down, whatever it is a physical thing could be destroyed.

Digital ones can't be, you could be scammed, or even lose your key phrases and all, but normally if you do not make any mistakes its there and there forever which means you will not lose it. Plus its easier to control, its a few buttons and you click them and either buy or sell, that is a much better and easier method then going and buying a whole house.

Why would it be?

I don't consider Bitcoin's utility as an investment tool so this would be excluded because I view it as a currency with appreciating value due to its deflationary tendency. Why would holding a digital investment like tech stocks be any more valuable than holding something physical like gold? I understand digital assets are easier to store but are physical assets really that difficult to store? If someone's holding a digital asset for investment sake, I wouldn't consider ease of use to be a top priority.
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January 08, 2023, 07:33:23 AM
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Everyone has different thoughts on fiat, crypto and stocks they have different risks when we run a business so just do what really makes us more confident in doing business to invest because every corner has positive and negative sides but it all depends on the way we have to face, Many people feel cheated by something they do in business but some of them also benefit, so never blame others because we have different views so do what is more meaningful for ourselves.
It's not worth blaming other people for anything, because other people also run a business according to what they think so other people don't blame you for this either. Only in terms of doing business that needs attention is the condition of global economic development.

Because that's what mostly influences the development of a better business, while for investments that need to be considered are the pros and cons of market conditions when someone invests in assets that he believes are good at that time. So both do have positive and negative sides as well as sides that need to be considered before running it.

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January 08, 2023, 09:33:24 AM
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Positive thinking is very important for investment as it helps in business development. There are many differences between property and crypto stocks property increases with the development of the country's global economy. Good for crypto investment it is easy to strengthen wealth by investing in crypto. For this, you should understand the market well and move forward with positive thinking it is helpful in business development.

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January 08, 2023, 02:22:19 PM
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Let’s observe some of the WB famous quote

But why? Why I need to do it? Isn’t it a waste of time? Why don’t get a job to work and contribute? Why must go against everything in life?
This guy WB is full of ill intention, I do not like him one bit so I decide to begin to observe some of his best quotes to see why he choose it, and what motivate him to have a mindset of such famous quote. His quote can be easily found all over the social site, on FB, IG, and the like, shared and likes by many friends, friend of friends, even boss would recommend this quotes to his slave occasionally. As the saying goes, “Be careful to what advice you get in life.”

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“if you made mistake, pay the tuition fee.”
This advice sound just like what you get in school, if you break the traffic rule, you pay the traffic fine. If you break rule in office, reduce salary. But why would you need to pay the fine for making mistakes? It make wageslave afraid of making mistake in life, it also make kids today afraid of making mistakes in school, they would do everything ridiculous just to avoid making mistake, to avoid paying fine. He is basically training you to be perfect wageslave, it benefit him the most for giving you such irresponsible advice, because he is running the stock market, that’s his business empire, he happily giving advice which make his business(crime in fact) grow bigger, while impoverished the reader.


“Do not loss money (in the stock market), do not forget rule number 1.”
This advice sound totally legit, keep playing the stock market, he do not want you to quit, this is the advice he would happily give you, and he is the house of this stock market, if you quit with a bag of profit he is losing money and also a customer. Advising you to not lose money, and keep playing is very sound advice that benefit him and his casino the most since he is the house. It’s also number one advice that is readily accepted by unscrupulous investor, since they’re too familiar with this advice, the school has been teaching kids to not make mistake for decades, to keep winning and never allowed to failed, sound like a harmless advice at first glance, yet it’s also the number one advice that resulting in heavy gambler commit suicide over the heavy loss they made in casino, Newton Isaac is very wonderful example which he is never loss in school and also made the greatest mistake in life. He is also unable to understand why stock market is same as casino gambling, which is not a dice game or poker game but a brand new number game... and unconsciously fall into heavy gambling addiction on stock market.

There is many more WB quote, but many of them are looking perfectly fine and I can’t see through what’s his ill intention behind the advice, just yet, it’s not easy as he is quite a heavyweight mental gymnastics medalist. I strongly believe he choose them carefully and all of them are ill intended.

But why are this happening? Why is decent guy like Newton Isaac has to die? Why the bad actor do not die, but create one upon yet another trap, to fool unscrupulous decent nice guy, steal their money, and force them to commit suicide with heavy debt with legalised high interest rate, for making mistake in life?

Yeah, this all has to happen, because it’s part of the survival of the fittest. Laws of nature, you want to live another day, you must compete with another man for the same food, one guy has to die as the food is not enough for two guy. Two guy has to compete for the same amount of money, not enough money for two guy, one guy has to die, nice and decent guy dying is absolutely the perfect result of survival of the fittest. How and why and what?

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January 08, 2023, 02:55:27 PM
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Fiat and crypto and stock is bs, but property although is just concrete but it is real.

Fiat maybe bs but you need it in other to be able to buy your desired property, without fiat your property talk is also bs because nobody will listen to you.
Even after acquisition of the property, fiat still plays a significant role when it comes to earning from that property except it is for personal usage, so before looking at all the fiat flaws also look at it's importance in our present economy.

As much as people despise fiat, they still work very hard to earn it, Elon is no exception. Isn't that an irony  Cheesy

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January 08, 2023, 05:29:19 PM
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Fiat and crypto and stock is bs, but property although is just concrete but it is real.

Fiat maybe bs but you need it in other to be able to buy your desired property, without fiat your property talk is also bs because nobody will listen to you.
Even after acquisition of the property, fiat still plays a significant role when it comes to earning from that property except it is for personal usage, so before looking at all the fiat flaws also look at it's importance in our present economy.

As much as people despise fiat, they still work very hard to earn it, Elon is no exception. Isn't that an irony  Cheesy

That is very true, many people say fiat depreciates, fiat is centralized, and using fiat is a shame, but they don't look back that they invest in bitcoin invest in real estate, but in the end, everything counts as fiat and is measured in fiat. All the people who are talking badly about fiat are still working nonstop for fiat.
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January 08, 2023, 07:04:31 PM
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It's illogical to compare all these with real estate. It's like comparing apples with potatoes—the first one is a fruit, the other a vegetable. Yes, I agree, real estate is probably one of the best—if not the best—investments you can ever make. You can sell it, rent it for passive income, use it for yourself, or a combination of them. Whether we like it or not, housing is becoming more and more expensive; thus, real estate will always be a worthwhile investment. The problem is that if you haven't inherited a property, it's nearly impossible to acquire one yourself nowadays. 

Exactly. The OP haven't established or have thought that not everybody is capable to own a land or properties these days and convert it to a passive income where you will build a building to make some profits in the future thus getting some benefits as well because the property/land will get more expensive as years goes by. That is why it's hard to own some of it these days because real estate business is not new anymore.

But everyone has the power to own some crypto and stocks because that's much cheaper than owning a land as you can jus by a fraction of it, not wholly, like real estates. But the risks are the same and the owner will still benefit as year goes by.
OP continues to ignore the fundamentals of real estate, namely that you need large amounts of money to get started. Some are fortunate enough to have inherited properties from their grandparents during a time when owning a home was much more feasible. The majority of us in the younger generations, from Millennials to Gen Z, will have a lot harder time acquiring their own house, while taking out a loan to buy a small apartment is out of the question for most of us since these loans may run for over 20 to 30 years, and who knows what happens till then?

Bitcoin appears to be the best shot we have at the moment; it may not be as good as owning properties, but it's something ordinary. On top of that, Bitcoin might be the key to acquire a house in the distant future, you never know.

The OP, on the other hand, continues to post information that is somewhat irrelevant to the topic. 

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January 09, 2023, 02:05:35 PM
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...fiat maybe bs but you need it in other to be able to buy your desired property...

Tbh I wasn’t expecting a history to repeat itself, after all the noise going on in each family today, I couldn’t stop thinking, it’s exactly the same history once again, there is just too much coincidences, that is foolish to ignore them completely, the history are revolving around fiat too, there is Parexel (googl it) and vaccine in 2007 before the subprime crashes, then there is covid and vaccine in 2020 before the crashes, but when would be the next crashes idk. The world is running low on food, there is no enough food for two guy, one guy of the two has to die, while one other guy survive. Govt take the 96% food from you through inflation, you have to live with the remaining 4%... complete bs... you’re wondering why are guy migrating en mass, become social influencer, doing live-stream, refusing to get a working job. Many zoomer are going freakout over the foul play. The “hard-asset rich” joke that’s once asserted by kiyosaki a decade ago has become even more prevalent today, asset rich to 99% common folks but zero cash, and yet bank has too much money and stocks today, perfectly spot on prophecy, a malfunctioning economy, which economist said is designed (JFL) to save the poverty, I wonder how would the imposters who attack him feel now, they’re writing blog all over the internet and call him scammer by the name, absolutely ironic.

...to Gen Z, will have a lot harder time to acquiring their own house..

Many people failed to realise, not only house, food is also getting a lot harder to acquire, yeah, the true nightmare is ahead, it’s not a joke btw, cutting you out from house and food access, forcing you into less food and homeless. Ironically everybody focus seem to be on the house alone, it make me wonder whether the banking giant are behind the status quo, property has always been receiving countless media attack since the 2008 crisis, many are deceitful catchphrase, but never once mainstream news attack on the food price. As the memes goes “you would own nothing and eat the bug and be happy.” Hard to acquire food? just eat the bug, hard to acquire house? just own nothing.

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January 09, 2023, 03:14:12 PM
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That is very true, many people say fiat depreciates, fiat is centralized, and using fiat is a shame, but they don't look back that they invest in bitcoin invest in real estate, but in the end, everything counts as fiat and is measured in fiat. All the people who are talking badly about fiat are still working nonstop for fiat.
Why should say depreciated and feel ashamed to use fiat? Even though in general fiat has no faults for being used by many people in the long term and is still accepted by many countries with their respective currencies. So it is clear that it is still very good to use fiat even though there are several other options for payment, because fiat can still be used as legal tender in all countries by everyone in all work services.

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January 09, 2023, 03:46:52 PM
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....The world is running low on food, there is no enough food for two guy, one guy of the two has to die, while one other guy survive.

Am not sure what is happening in your location but from where am located, there is still enough food for everyone to eat despite the tough economic situation. No one needs to die for another to eat.  The only problem some of the people are facing is laziness to work in other to earn a living. The economy is bad we understand, but some people are only looking for a flamboyant life, trying to leave above their capacity. Imo, it all depends on how hardworking a person can become.
 

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January 09, 2023, 08:34:58 PM
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It's illogical to compare all these with real estate. It's like comparing apples with potatoes—the first one is a fruit, the other a vegetable. Yes, I agree, real estate is probably one of the best—if not the best—investments you can ever make. You can sell it, rent it for passive income, use it for yourself, or a combination of them. Whether we like it or not, housing is becoming more and more expensive; thus, real estate will always be a worthwhile investment. The problem is that if you haven't inherited a property, it's nearly impossible to acquire one yourself nowadays. 

Exactly. The OP haven't established or have thought that not everybody is capable to own a land or properties these days and convert it to a passive income where you will build a building to make some profits in the future thus getting some benefits as well because the property/land will get more expensive as years goes by. That is why it's hard to own some of it these days because real estate business is not new anymore.

But everyone has the power to own some crypto and stocks because that's much cheaper than owning a land as you can jus by a fraction of it, not wholly, like real estates. But the risks are the same and the owner will still benefit as year goes by.
OP continues to ignore the fundamentals of real estate, namely that you need large amounts of money to get started. Some are fortunate enough to have inherited properties from their grandparents during a time when owning a home was much more feasible. The majority of us in the younger generations, from Millennials to Gen Z, will have a lot harder time acquiring their own house, while taking out a loan to buy a small apartment is out of the question for most of us since these loans may run for over 20 to 30 years, and who knows what happens till then?

Bitcoin appears to be the best shot we have at the moment; it may not be as good as owning properties, but it's something ordinary. On top of that, Bitcoin might be the key to acquire a house in the distant future, you never know.

The OP, on the other hand, continues to post information that is somewhat irrelevant to the topic. 
I think it depends on the location. Where I live it's possible to buy a land lot for 5600$ where it's going to be a houses complex. Water and electricity are already scheduled. I don't know if it's a good investment, though, because I fear it can become a slum later. So there is violence, problematic neighborhood, low quality infrastructure, not good looking surroundings... And all these characteristics make the investment completely loses its value. Anyway, the costs are pretty cheap in my opinion. Even signature campaigns' income can pay for that.

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January 09, 2023, 08:38:52 PM
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It's illogical to compare all these with real estate. It's like comparing apples with potatoes—the first one is a fruit, the other a vegetable. Yes, I agree, real estate is probably one of the best—if not the best—investments you can ever make. You can sell it, rent it for passive income, use it for yourself, or a combination of them. Whether we like it or not, housing is becoming more and more expensive; thus, real estate will always be a worthwhile investment. The problem is that if you haven't inherited a property, it's nearly impossible to acquire one yourself nowadays. 

Exactly. The OP haven't established or have thought that not everybody is capable to own a land or properties these days and convert it to a passive income where you will build a building to make some profits in the future thus getting some benefits as well because the property/land will get more expensive as years goes by. That is why it's hard to own some of it these days because real estate business is not new anymore.

But everyone has the power to own some crypto and stocks because that's much cheaper than owning a land as you can jus by a fraction of it, not wholly, like real estates. But the risks are the same and the owner will still benefit as year goes by.
OP continues to ignore the fundamentals of real estate, namely that you need large amounts of money to get started. Some are fortunate enough to have inherited properties from their grandparents during a time when owning a home was much more feasible. The majority of us in the younger generations, from Millennials to Gen Z, will have a lot harder time acquiring their own house, while taking out a loan to buy a small apartment is out of the question for most of us since these loans may run for over 20 to 30 years, and who knows what happens till then?

Bitcoin appears to be the best shot we have at the moment; it may not be as good as owning properties, but it's something ordinary. On top of that, Bitcoin might be the key to acquire a house in the distant future, you never know.

The OP, on the other hand, continues to post information that is somewhat irrelevant to the topic. 
I think it depends on the location. Where I live it's possible to buy a land lot for 5600$ where it's going to be a houses complex. Water and electricity are already scheduled. I don't know if it's a good investment, though, because I fear it can become a slum later. So there is violence, problematic neighborhood, low quality infrastructure, not good looking surroundings... And all these characteristics make the investment completely loses its value. Anyway, the costs are pretty cheap in my opinion. Even signature campaigns' income can pay for that.
Signature campaign earnings is really that something big and enough for paying up some monthly amort but we know that relying with this kind of thing wont really be guaranteeing out on how long it would last.

This is why its never that been recommendable on doing so yet its never been a stable work since from the start.Speaking about land or property investment then it would really be normally on having lots of
considerations whether its price would be stagnant or would appreciate depending accordingly into its location which is definitely true.This is why even we do say that real estate business is really that worth
but its not something that you could really make out some guarantees that you would be hitting the right spot. So it is really still that risk taking when it comes to this manner.

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January 09, 2023, 09:22:31 PM
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No person who is into cryptocurrency that have not lose money before so if you are stocking your cryptocurrency or a Fiat currency because of investment or your time Factor you believe that you will make a profit you are liable all profit to land, or into lost because in investment two things are involved

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