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December 15, 2022, 11:12:08 PM
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Do you guys remember that guy who well before btc had its first highs threw away a hard-disk with btc which became worth millions and he went to rummage the landfill looking for it and also offered a slice of btc to the city council if it helped him find it?

Is he still looking for it?  Roll Eyes    Cheesy   Cheesy
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December 15, 2022, 11:21:04 PM
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The cynic in me thinks the HDD could easily have been compacted, shredded and destroyed by now. Whether by normal landfill processes, or exposure to the elements.

But then I remember reading news stories about data being recovered from HDDs inside the World Trade Centers during 9/11 attacks and HDDs inside the space shuttle columbia which unfortunately exploded (R.I.P.).

If data can be recovered from an HDD located inside a building with 110 floors that was utterly destroyed. Maybe he has a chance of finding his long lost HDD inside of a landfill, after all? HDDs could be tougher and easier to recover data from than we realize.

But if we're being serious, anyone with the resources or capital to scour landfills in search of HDDs with lost crypto don't need him as a middle man. They could already be conducting operations of their own inside landfills, as we speak, without him.
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December 15, 2022, 11:30:55 PM
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It's probably becoming more and more viable as btc price rises for the council to actually try to get it - if it's possible and if they can reduce the chances of toxic gasses being released into the environment and waste contaminating the waters and then actually find the drive which will probably all remain extremely unlikely.

There's so mamy reasons the data on the hard drive may be destroyed though (especially if electrical or magnetic contamination are likely).
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December 16, 2022, 12:21:12 AM
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He probably could have made most of it back working a part time job and buying crypto all these years instead of digging in the dump.



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December 16, 2022, 12:44:35 AM
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Do you guys remember that guy who well before btc had its first highs threw away a hard-disk with btc which became worth millions and he went to rummage the landfill looking for it and also offered a slice of btc to the city council if it helped him find it?

Is he still looking for it?  Roll Eyes    Cheesy   Cheesy


Yes, it's around $70 million offer to city council to help him find that one hard drive that contains million worth of bitcoins but I don't think that they are interested on the offer itself.

I think the earliest offer is that he will donated that huge chunk of money to covid relief fun but no one has step up.

And it goes to say that it's obviously he lost all of it already.

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December 16, 2022, 01:16:47 AM
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James Howells threw his hard drive containing 8,000 Bitcoin in 2013. Today, that's around $140 million. But that hard drive has been buried in at least 110,000 tons of garbage. And that's almost a decade ago. At this point, I doubt he will still be successful in trying to retrieve it. I'm not even sure if there are still efforts to locate it until now. But in case the search-- if it's still going on-- will be successful, I'm sure it will hit the headlines just as the search hit the news.

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December 16, 2022, 01:17:51 AM
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the answer is I don't know. but I hope that the man can quickly find him, and may God give him patience and fortitude. but it will definitely be very difficult to find a hard drive in the trash because the hard drive is a small thing, not a big thing.
With an incident like that, hopefully it will be an example for all of us, namely to always be careful when placing objects that contain valuable assets.
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December 16, 2022, 04:38:39 AM
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@landheer I believe the guy threw the disk away on purpose not by accident, he had this old drive he didn't need and just disposed of it disregarding the "experiments" he made with btc which when he threw the disk away were just worthless bits.
Am I wrong or did he do it by accident?
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December 16, 2022, 05:51:12 AM
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This is the most recent update on it.
Howells has requested to dig for his hard drive for almost ten years, but Newport’s city council has consistently rejected him because they claim it would be costly and environmentally harmful.
He has put together a group of eight professionals, including one advisor who worked for a company that recovered data from the black box of the Columbia space shuttle, who have expertise in things like AI-powered sorting, landfill excavation, waste management, and data extraction.
The specialists and their businesses would be hired to carry out the excavation and would get a bonus if the bitcoin hoard could be found.
more details - https://alltechnews.info/james-howells-finding-181-million-in-bitcoin-buried-in-a-dump-is-a-mission/


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December 16, 2022, 06:01:49 AM
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@landheer I believe the guy threw the disk away on purpose not by accident, he had this old drive he didn't need and just disposed of it disregarding the "experiments" he made with btc which when he threw the disk away were just worthless bits.
Am I wrong or did he do it by accident?

As described earlier, James Howells bought bitcoin for next to nothing and kept his hard drive on his desk. After spilling liquid on the desk, he decided the hard drive was defective and threw it away while cleaning.

He probably could have made most of it back working a part time job and buying crypto all these years instead of digging in the dump.

I also thought about it. Also, given that he still attempted to hire a team to search, he most likely spent a significant amount of money, to his detriment. Although, knowing you are a millionaire and that your millions are stored in a dump can have a negative psychological impact.

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December 16, 2022, 06:29:39 AM
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There are mistakes we make without the understanding of what value the actions of it may cost in future, he didn't regretted his actions then not until he realized that things have surges high with the bitcoin price and value, but then it was too late, he would have developed more strategy to buy the more by then and invested just to keep in a safety place and would have been smiling by now, same thing applicable to those not investing now, thinking it's too late they would have done that long ago, why not correct your mistakes and forget the past in other to embrace the future.
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December 16, 2022, 07:13:04 AM
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Do you guys remember that guy who well before btc had its first highs threw away a hard-disk with btc which became worth millions and he went to rummage the landfill looking for it and also offered a slice of btc to the city council if it helped him find it?

Is he still looking for it?  Roll Eyes    Cheesy   Cheesy

Probably he stopped already. Maybe he realize this when its too late already but if ever he find it he is probably gonna take a millions worth of money.

Im thinking he is full of regret now but what done is done. Btc is so much cheap before but thats change when the value skyrocketed. Even though he is requesting for a dig up, surely this would not be easy and risky, cause it might cause environmetal impact and ending up still loss. Though chances to find it is slim, can they really make it working with cause time might broke it as well.

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December 16, 2022, 07:21:41 AM
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Knowing the odds with this is challenging because a landfill covers so much land, and to be able to detect a metal part on it is vast. You could see multiple traces of metal on the garbage thrown there, but since it's so long ago, it will be a feat, and the uncertainty is overwhelming.

No one is probably going to help. Is he documenting anything with his progress? Maybe he is updating his social media or something.

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December 16, 2022, 11:03:19 AM
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Do you guys remember that guy who well before btc had its first highs threw away a hard-disk with btc which became worth millions and he went to rummage the landfill looking for it and also offered a slice of btc to the city council if it helped him find it?

Is he still looking for it?  Roll Eyes    Cheesy   Cheesy


Yes, it's around $70 million offer to city council to help him find that one hard drive that contains million worth of bitcoins but I don't think that they are interested on the offer itself.

I think the earliest offer is that he will donated that huge chunk of money to covid relief fun but no one has step up.

And it goes to say that it's obviously he lost all of it already.

https://greenlemon.me/man-offers-70-m-to-find-a-hard-drive-loaded-with-7500-bitcoin-that-he-threw-away-accidentally/
This is just grunt work in my opinion. The guy could've made most of his lost earnings if he'd just worked and bought bitcoins again but I guess that's just me being cynical, just like what others have pointed here, hope is not lost as some of the HDDs in the most horrific of events in the history of humanity still works and was recovered. Then again, it would best work for him if he'd just let it be and moved on, the HDD could've been shredded and gone by now especially since it's been almost a decade now since he lost his bitcoins. This is a prime example of the sunk cost fallacy, he keeps on believing that there's no point in stopping now since he has put in so much effort into finding it, not realizing he's better off moving on.
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December 16, 2022, 11:06:46 AM
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Do you guys remember that guy who well before btc had its first highs threw away a hard-disk with btc which became worth millions and he went to rummage the landfill looking for it and also offered a slice of btc to the city council if it helped him find it?

Is he still looking for it?  Roll Eyes    Cheesy   Cheesy


I might not be sure that I know of the guy you are talking about or which country he lives in but as far as I know, in most countries once something lands in the landfill, or even the trash container, that particular something, along with the trash, lawfully belongs to the city at that point? So why would the city not just take it as their own? If they could find it? Did they ever say how much BTC that guy lost?

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December 16, 2022, 11:52:53 AM
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Do you guys remember that guy who well before btc had its first highs threw away a hard-disk with btc which became worth millions and he went to rummage the landfill looking for it and also offered a slice of btc to the city council if it helped him find it?

Is he still looking for it?  Roll Eyes    Cheesy   Cheesy
I remember him and he had made headlines several months ago and yes, he's still looking for it. Why are you asking for it? Do you have some idea on how he shall find it?

Years has passed and it's almost impossible that he'll ever find it. Even if he offer good money for it, there will be the slightest chance that he'll look at it.

He asked the city council to close that landfill just to start the search for it but they didn't agree AFAIK.

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December 16, 2022, 01:27:55 PM
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He should probably come to peace with this fact and go on otherwise he will be tormented for the rest of his life.
What are the chances he finds it? Those are ridiculous.
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December 16, 2022, 02:19:01 PM
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Probably he stopped already. Maybe he realize this when its too late already but if ever he find it he is probably gonna take a millions worth of money.
Nope he didn't stop and the last news from few months ago was that he  is still trying to find ways to persuade his local council to excavate the fill and try to find the lost hard drive. I do hope for his sake to finally forget about it and move on with his life.


As described earlier, James Howells bought bitcoin for next to nothing and kept his hard drive on his desk. After spilling liquid on the desk, he decided the hard drive was defective and threw it away while cleaning.
Didn't he mine those 7500 bitcoin instead of buying it?


He probably could have made most of it back working a part time job and buying crypto all these years instead of digging in the dump.
Since all that happened back in 2013 I don't think that he could easily buy back majority of bitcoin, at least not on his salary.


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December 16, 2022, 02:41:03 PM
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As described earlier, James Howells bought bitcoin for next to nothing and kept his hard drive on his desk. After spilling liquid on the desk, he decided the hard drive was defective and threw it away while cleaning.
Didn't he mine those 7500 bitcoin instead of buying it?


Oh yes, thanks for the correction. Russian sources talk about buying, and I honestly always thought so. But now I've found a deeper story about the lost bitcoins, and yes, you're right, Howells mined those bitcoins on his gaming laptop. (I hope this is a true story)

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/12/13/half-a-billion-in-bitcoin-lost-in-the-dump

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December 16, 2022, 04:12:47 PM
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Do you guys remember that guy who well before btc had its first highs threw away a hard-disk with btc which became worth millions and he went to rummage the landfill looking for it and also offered a slice of btc to the city council if it helped him find it?

Is he still looking for it?  Roll Eyes    Cheesy   Cheesy


If he had found it, it would have been news. There are 3 myths that I know about Bitcoin. The first is the person who trashed this hard drive. the second one is the person who paid 1000 Btc for 1 Pizza and the other is the person who received 200 Btc for a job he did on time but lost his password. If I am not mistaken, this person had a certain right to try his password, the last 2 rights were left, if those statements were negative, a large amount would be garbage.
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