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December 17, 2022, 07:01:16 PM
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Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

There are games like that but you don't have to engage these men directly in playing but you can use them as roles or players to challenge them, they don't have this enough time to be online for gaming to that extent, i think there are games also that uses emails to notify you when the challenging player is ready online for you to fight, most gamblers go on a fighting tournament rounds for this kinds.



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December 17, 2022, 07:28:29 PM
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Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.
Yeah, this is a kind person vs person gambling, you have a point mate, would really be great if some day, we could have a casino platform where users can digitally challenge other users to a fight, putting down a bet which can be taken by the winner after the casino might have removed their commission.
I think this kind of game is already available on some NFT platforms like axie infinity and the rest, but this requires holding some NFTs which for some players might be too expensive to purchase, a casino building a game like this where users challenge other users to a game or fighting or even cards would be really amazing.
These kinds of games will never find their way to traditional gambling sites. Maybe one day with the development of the metaverse there will be some projects focusing on PvP games with some built-in betting options, but even that is in question. How many players are ready to play and bet on these games in reality?! If I compare it with poker on this forum, too many people here just talk about it but they don't play, I guess it's the same with PvP games... a lot of talks, but when it comes to paying & playing the numbers show how many people are really interested.
Poker is quite a different kind of game, those who don't play poker don't play probably because they don't know how to play the game or they don't find it interesting when compared to other games available on the casino..

And personally, I believe the kind of game op talked about can really be integrated into casinos if they are willing to, it doesn't necessarily have to be a fight game like mortal combat and the likes, it could be card games, word scramble games and the likes, which i believe are simpler and more easy to play.
i have a card game app on my phone which allows player any where in the world to challenge other players as long as they are online, for me, the only reason why casinos will never integrate games like this into their platform is because they are not adventurous.

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December 17, 2022, 07:38:24 PM
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I don't know if there's any casino that have this kind of idea where you will play the game yourself and also bet on yourself while winner takes all. I do see platforms that has pvp games and also in crypto but it isn't a gambling site. There is a game that is like that but it is a card game and that is poker where you play against another players but not all people will find it interesting to play games like that. I wonder when it will happen but as of now, I don't think that there's a gambler platform that has games like that.

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December 17, 2022, 08:29:17 PM
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...I don't think that there's a gambler platform that has games like that.

And I doubt there will ever be.
I have discussed about this kind of skill-based games before in other threads. Casinos nowadays have no need to try to implement those games in order to get the huge profits they already get with traditional betting and gambling (slots, dices, poker, etc.)

If OP wants to earn money off playing fighting games and other similar ones, I would advice him to join tournaments (official and unofficial ones), some of them usually can get you cash prices and some internet fame (fighting games have a passionate public).

Beware of the competitors, though, there are very talented professionals within the gaming industry.

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Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

I can tell you why it won't happen. The answer is macros.

With mortal kombat the most difficult combinations are almost impossible to stop but you need to be good at pressing buttons in a sequence. Sometimes a very long sequence like 6 buttons in a row and if you mess up one you won't do anything.

When you play from home it's easy to set up macros on your keyboard and have all the best moves executed with 1 button. That's why all serious game tournaments are live so they see you play.

^This is exactly what I am thinking about upon reading this thread, how you can play on your computer using a macros keyboard. But I hope there is a setting that can change the function in our regular keyboard which I think is hard to control than the macros.
But a lot of people say the keyboard, fight stick, and mixbox are better than the controller. Usually, this game needs a player that can spend the same time which is called a player-to-player game and it is hard to set up a time for this, and probably the reason this is not very common in the gambling industry.
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December 17, 2022, 08:39:53 PM
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And I doubt there will ever be.
I have discussed about this kind of skill-based games before in other threads. Casinos nowadays have no need to try to implement those games in order to get the huge profits they already get with traditional betting and gambling (slots, dices, poker, etc.)

If OP wants to earn money off playing fighting games and other similar ones, I would advice him to join tournaments (official and unofficial ones), some of them usually can get you cash prices and some internet fame (fighting games have a passionate public).

Beware of the competitors, though, there are very talented professionals within the gaming industry.
You could be wrong and there might be a casino where they add skill-based games for additional games even though we know that casinos already have many games that gamblers can choose to play to gamble. It is possible that many casinos don't want to add more games like PVP games is because I think what you have said is true that even though there's no PVP games but they are already earning good profit.

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The Sandbox metaverse seemingly is trying to take steps towards this.  While there isn't really a true PvP game for money like what we all want, you can at least do things like race other people's time and the best times get higher payouts on their seasonal rewards.  They also have games that will pay you SAND for completing the game as they put up a prize pool of x amount of funds for those who complete the game to share.  It would be amazing to see gambling more widely accepted and xbox live to start letting you bet on games of Madden, etc...

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You could be wrong and there might be a casino where they add skill-based games for additional games even though we know that casinos already have many games that gamblers can choose to play to gamble. It is possible that many casinos don't want to add more games like PVP games is because I think what you have said is true that even though there's no PVP games but they are already earning good profit.

Even if casinos tried to add PvP games in their platform, they still would need a way to profit off those games.
Let us assume, some big casino licensed a popular franchise, like Mortal Kombat and they offer an online PVP. in order to get some money back the casino would need to charge a cut or percentage of the money being bet.

this percentage would need to be low enough, so they can attract players to fight each other.

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Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

I can tell you why it won't happen. The answer is macros.

With mortal kombat the most difficult combinations are almost impossible to stop but you need to be good at pressing buttons in a sequence. Sometimes a very long sequence like 6 buttons in a row and if you mess up one you won't do anything.

When you play from home it's easy to set up macros on your keyboard and have all the best moves executed with 1 button. That's why all serious game tournaments are live so they see you play.

Yes. That's the biggest challenge with this type of game, cheating. No matter what kind of online PvP game you're playing, there will always be people who try to gain an unfair advantage. Whether it's macros, scripts, bots - whatever. Ultimately, cheating may never be completely eliminated and there will always be people trying to find ways around the rules.

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December 17, 2022, 09:29:29 PM
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Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.
Some gamblers are not a gamer, and some gamer are not a gambler and maybe this is the reason why some casinos are not implementing this because there is a low market on this and they might lose more than to get profit. If you want to bet on eSport I guess its more possible but having this on the system of every casinos, this might not happen at all especially like a Mortal Kombat where many are no longer interested into this kind of game.

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I know there's an E-Sports tournaments for fighting games like this including Tekken and Street fighter. They are available to watch online and we can always organize a betting event for this like for example on this forum if not locally.
I found a site that has lists[1] of previous tournament of mortal kombat mostly the latest one MK11. But since this is considered as an esports probably there are platform who organized betting for this the same but not as big as in dota2, CSGO, LOL and MLBB, PUBG  for mobile games.

[1] https://escharts.com/tournaments/mkx

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You could be wrong and there might be a casino where they add skill-based games for additional games even though we know that casinos already have many games that gamblers can choose to play to gamble. It is possible that many casinos don't want to add more games like PVP games is because I think what you have said is true that even though there's no PVP games but they are already earning good profit.

Even if casinos tried to add PvP games in their platform, they still would need a way to profit off those games.
Let us assume, some big casino licensed a popular franchise, like Mortal Kombat and they offer an online PVP. in order to get some money back the casino would need to charge a cut or percentage of the money being bet.

this percentage would need to be low enough, so they can attract players to fight each other.

On the other hand, there are already games which are not PvP and do not require licensing or much maintenance, which can get the casino up to a 100% of profit from one single gambler who is having a bad streak and losing it all.

There are already some casino that implements PVP mode.  Just like in Duelbits where pvp dice (Dice Duel is implemented.  So I think it isn't impossible that casino will consider implementing PVP games like Mortal combat and alike in their platform.  It just need time though, since metaverse is getting popular, the implementation of this kind of gambling games is becoming possible.
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I can tell you why it won't happen. The answer is macros.

With mortal kombat the most difficult combinations are almost impossible to stop but you need to be good at pressing buttons in a sequence. Sometimes a very long sequence like 6 buttons in a row and if you mess up one you won't do anything.

When you play from home it's easy to set up macros on your keyboard and have all the best moves executed with 1 button. That's why all serious game tournaments are live so they see you play.
This is valid.

Casinos that will setup a PvP version of betting, there's a lot of work to be done. One can setup as what darkangel said or we can easily call it a bot.

It happens in most games and when there's money involved, many are too desperate to do that. There are tournaments that are covered by some bookies and that's the only thing that they rely on listing.

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Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

There should be varieties of games in this regard but they are life virtual games that can bring up a challenge on the opponents and it's mostly the actions games that comes with this kind even though it's a reality game we aren't yet fully into because it's a kinda 3D games that seemenly a reality type of games, there have nit been this as expected as work is still undergoing on the Metaverse kind of reality games which i believe we are close to very soon.

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December 17, 2022, 11:45:30 PM
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Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

I do think none as that kind of game is always subject to fairness. We don't know if we are battling against a real human.

If you want that kind of gambling, found a game related to that and opened a challenge here.

The same as what I did before on the game, Mobile Legends, where I found challenges here with staked money.

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Casinos that will setup a PvP version of betting, there's a lot of work to be done. One can setup as what darkangel said or we can easily call it a bot.

It happens in most games and when there's money involved, many are too desperate to do that. There are tournaments that are covered by some bookies and that's the only thing that they rely on listing.
And that's also why imo it should stay as tournaments. Just the fact that games have a hundred bunch of loopholes that would require a lot of testing and checking if it was actually a "legit" play or not is enough to say how PVP betting would never work on skill-based games. If you were familiar with the Minecraft speedrunner scene, you can see an example where one dude who dominated the leaderboards was recently found out to be cheating, in what, after like a few years or so. It's not your usual games, but it's enough to show how games can and will have those loopholes that players will take advantage of.

Heck, even MMOs have a bunch of bots farming just to sell gold to in-game players, what more when betting is introduced.

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December 18, 2022, 02:56:58 AM
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Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.
Some gamblers are not a gamer, and some gamer are not a gambler and maybe this is the reason why some casinos are not implementing this because there is a low market on this and they might lose more than to get profit. If you want to bet on eSport I guess its more possible but having this on the system of every casinos, this might not happen at all especially like a Mortal Kombat where many are no longer interested into this kind of game.
but if they will add this a regular gambler might turn into a gamer also , and aside from that ? mortal combat use to be a game of many adult now so much more fun having enjoying in Game while you are betting.
this is a  multi tools of happiness for users and also  a possible income for gambling operator.
Maybe there are a lack of calls for this but now we must start that call for addressing .









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December 18, 2022, 03:03:34 AM
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Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

There should be varieties of games in this regard but they are life virtual games that can bring up a challenge on the opponents and it's mostly the actions games that comes with this kind even though it's a reality game we aren't yet fully into because it's a kinda 3D games that seemenly a reality type of games, there have nit been this as expected as work is still undergoing on the Metaverse kind of reality games which i believe we are close to very soon.
For an ordinary game that doesn't use money, it's been around for a long time and keeps getting updates from the developer. But to be brought into the gambling business, I think it may still take time for the developers to make it. It requires the subtleties of 3D games, which take more work. As for bringing it into the Metaverse, maybe it's still waiting for an update from the Metaverse project itself. So we are still waiting until one of the projects releases a game as intended that has been integrated into gambling.

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There are already some casino that implements PVP mode.  Just like in Duelbits where pvp dice (Dice Duel is implemented.  So I think it isn't impossible that casino will consider implementing PVP games like Mortal combat and alike in their platform.  It just need time though, since metaverse is getting popular, the implementation of this kind of gambling games is becoming possible.

It is a valid example of Player versus player, but what I have said still stands, since unlike mortal kombat, dices are completely based on luck and OP specifically mentioned a game which is skill based. He wants to earn money by being good at playing.

Still, I feel curious on how Duelbits takes profit off those PvP dices, do you know what percentage they take from gamblers wager?

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Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.

There should be varieties of games in this regard but they are life virtual games that can bring up a challenge on the opponents and it's mostly the actions games that comes with this kind even though it's a reality game we aren't yet fully into because it's a kinda 3D games that seemenly a reality type of games, there have nit been this as expected as work is still undergoing on the Metaverse kind of reality games which i believe we are close to very soon.
For an ordinary game that doesn't use money, it's been around for a long time and keeps getting updates from the developer. But to be brought into the gambling business, I think it may still take time for the developers to make it. It requires the subtleties of 3D games, which take more work. As for bringing it into the Metaverse, maybe it's still waiting for an update from the Metaverse project itself. So we are still waiting until one of the projects releases a game as intended that has been integrated into gambling.
It depends on the request from the house. Developers only work based on what they are been instructed to do. If Casinos can include them in their games it will be a nice idea at least players vs players could play online stake some coin, then who ever wins goes with the stake then the casino get their commission for using their site. It will become more popular than Casino games if implemented.

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