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December 19, 2022, 10:00:00 AM
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Hey guys,

I haven't been following what is happening with CZ, but I know, Binance had issues recently with drawals, and I noticed a video where CZ was saying "Keyin is a dirty liar".

Anyone has full extent of what is happening? especially between him and Keyin?

Thanks in Advance
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December 19, 2022, 10:11:44 AM
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In short, Kevin O’Leary was a FTX spokesman and investor, and at Senate hearing he accused Binance for FTX downfall, conveniently forgetting SBF role in everything that has happened. CZ is a shady guy, but in this case he is right to call out O’Leary for all the bullshit he said lately.


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December 19, 2022, 11:13:07 AM
Last edit: December 20, 2022, 01:26:14 AM by tech30338
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Hey guys,

I haven't been following what is happening with CZ, but I know, Binance had issues recently with drawals, and I noticed a video where CZ was saying "Keyin is a dirty liar".

Anyone has full extent of what is happening? especially between him and Keyin?

Thanks in Advance
Kevin being paid by ftx so he's loyalty is to SBF and ftx and he is putting CZ in a bad situation on all of his statements on the media , that is why CZ is saying he is a liar.

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December 19, 2022, 11:48:14 AM
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Kevin is known for having some bad investments despite he's a good talker and if he's attacking CZ and defending FTX then there's really the loyalty part of him probably paid to talk and protect FTX.
Well, CZ is also at his fault but he has the right to protect himself too and point out who he thinks is telling lies, so both of them will just have to say whatever they feel. At the end of this, this drama is clout chasing and gathering attention for them, still good exposure for both as usual.

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December 19, 2022, 11:54:58 AM
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Kevin is known for having some bad investments despite he's a good talker and if he's attacking CZ and defending FTX then there's really the loyalty part of him probably paid to talk and protect FTX.
Well, CZ is also at his fault but he has the right to protect himself too and point out who he thinks is telling lies, so both of them will just have to say whatever they feel. At the end of this, this drama is clout chasing and gathering attention for them, still good exposure for both as usual.

I personally am not a big fan of Kevin's but not CZ's either. He has quite the centralized business in a decentralized world, which is quite weird if you ask me  Grin >
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December 19, 2022, 03:53:52 PM
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I personally am not a big fan of Kevin's but not CZ's either. He has quite the centralized business in a decentralized world, which is quite weird if you ask me  Grin >
It isn't so weird because centralized exchanges and businesses control most of the crypto trading volume, crypto people use these centralized services more, and there are a few truly decentralized crypto to a thousand centralized altcoins and tokens. The crypto industry looks centralized to me, and for one to be fully decentralized they probably have to use BTC and trade in a decentralized exchange which many people find it hard to do, and they just use their crypto like they use their fiat in the bank.

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December 19, 2022, 05:36:59 PM
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Anyone has full extent of what is happening? especially between him and Keyin?
You might be a little late hearing the news about Kevin O'Leary vs. Changpeng Zhao, the two of whom had already made headlines on the internet, pointing fingers at each other.

Initially started here.

Kevin O'Leary And CZ Engage In a War Of Words Over FTX Collapse
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Binance CEO Changpeng Zhao (CZ) and Kevin O'Leary are engaged in a war of words accusing each other.

And it goes on and on here.

CZ Calls Kevin O’Leary ‘a Liar’ Over his Remarks on Binance
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Binance CEO CZ stated, “Kevin O’Leary is making a bunch of nonsense claims. They don’t make sense, they don’t make any logic.”

This is just some of the information that I took between CZ and Kevin, the rest you can see on the internet.

You should know that since the FTX exchange collapsed, many things have happened, one of which is as you know, for sure many other problems have occurred, the main target of the attack is CZ.

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December 19, 2022, 09:30:41 PM
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In short, Kevin O’Leary was a FTX spokesman and investor, and at Senate hearing he accused Binance for FTX downfall, conveniently forgetting SBF role in everything that has happened. CZ is a shady guy, but in this case he is right to call out O’Leary for all the bullshit he said lately.
Spokesman, Public Relations Officer... If there was any career I had to take again, anything close to PR would be off my list instantly. Lies flow in their blood. I am not a fan of CZ but when I saw a video of Kevin O’Leary trying to change the blame game to CZ, I was baffled.

Kevin is known for having some bad investments despite he's a good talker
A good talker or a good manipulator? Spokesmen!  Grin


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December 20, 2022, 08:36:29 AM
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Kevin is known for having some bad investments despite he's a good talker and if he's attacking CZ and defending FTX then there's really the loyalty part of him probably paid to talk and protect FTX.
Well, CZ is also at his fault but he has the right to protect himself too and point out who he thinks is telling lies, so both of them will just have to say whatever they feel. At the end of this, this drama is clout chasing and gathering attention for them, still good exposure for both as usual.

I personally am not a big fan of Kevin's but not CZ's either. He has quite the centralized business in a decentralized world, which is quite weird if you ask me  Grin >
Well, we all knew about how CZ's business is going on. He's talking somehow with information that would give the idea to those that are just buyers and holders but don't want to understand some important thing in getting into crypto.

Kevin is known for having some bad investments despite he's a good talker
A good talker or a good manipulator? Spokesmen!  Grin
Both I guess? Hehe. I've watched a couple episodes of him in Shark Tank and as well as interviews, that's my impression to him.

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December 21, 2022, 03:15:46 AM
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It's all over the news. There are articles and videos of it as well. You can easily look for the actual words coming from both clowns online.

I am never a fan of both, but I'm with CZ this time. He's no hero; he's a villain. He's dirty himself, but Kevin O'leary is dirtier this time. He's in a congressional hearing and he doesn't anything relevant to say and he's pointing fingers at CZ and Binance as if FTX and SBF are clueless victims.

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short story: long(ill use funny names for entertainment)

imagine bankman owned a bank. but mismanaged customers funds and pocketed them

imagine CaZh was in bank as a customer, looking to invest as corporate partner. but noticed the bad management and wanted out.
CaZh got out knowing there was nothing left of bank

CaZh  whistleblew and everyone tried to get their cash out too
however bankman couldnt fund the bank-run

so bank blew up and erupted in a bankruptcy
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now k-vino(he loves wine)  had his own cash in bank. but k-vino was also under contract that k-vino had to promote bank and bankman positively to get hands on k-vino cash

so k-vino wants to blame CaZh for why bank closed its doors.. ignoring the reason CaZh whistled

normally a solvent /clear bank would have funds to meet customer needs even in a bank run. so even with a whistle. if bank was good there would be no drama

the reason for all this is that bank was empty. and k-vino is in denial

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the story is the easy part. the only complicated part i see is the names you have to work out who it refers to

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January 01, 2023, 06:53:32 PM
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Kevin is known for having some bad investments despite he's a good talker and if he's attacking CZ and defending FTX then there's really the loyalty part of him probably paid to talk and protect FTX.
FTX and SBF hired Kevin O'Leary by paying him $1.5 million to be their brand ambassador and that is what he is doing day in and day out defending SBF and his actions and putting the blame entirely on CZ for the failure.

Well, CZ is also at his fault but he has the right to protect himself too and point out who he thinks is telling lies, so both of them will just have to say whatever they feel. At the end of this, this drama is clout chasing and gathering attention for them, still good exposure for both as usual.
The reason CZ needs to defend his position is solely because Kevin O'leary is making a strange claim that the reason for the FTX failure is CZ and not SBF. It is a fact that SBF contacted CZ to bail out FTX but when they checked their audit reports which they obtained CZ knew that he is in a bigger hole if he tries to bail them and hence he backed out and the people who took money from SBF are defending him and trying to blame others for the scam that took place.
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January 02, 2023, 10:20:32 PM
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FTX and SBF hired Kevin O'Leary by paying him $1.5 million to be their brand ambassador and that is what he is doing day in and day out defending SBF and his actions and putting the blame entirely on CZ for the failure.
I just wanted to point out the small mistake as SBF paid O'Leary $15 million for his services and not $1.5 million. That's the amount he claims the he lost in SBF, even though based on one of his interviews (can't find it now) he actually didn't lose everything.


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January 08, 2023, 10:40:59 AM
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FTX and SBF hired Kevin O'Leary by paying him $1.5 million to be their brand ambassador and that is what he is doing day in and day out defending SBF and his actions and putting the blame entirely on CZ for the failure.
I just wanted to point out the small mistake as SBF paid O'Leary $15 million for his services and not $1.5 million. That's the amount he claims the he lost in SBF, even though based on one of his interviews (can't find it now) he actually didn't lose everything.



If he didn't lose anything it means that although he was shilling for SBF he was smart enough to hold his investment out of FTX. Sharks like O'leary only act surprised like they didn't know what was going on and lost money. A real believer would've taken 15 mill from SBF, put it all in crypto and held the coins on FTX but a smart guy who did his research would reinvest elsewhere.
I hope people finally learn and nobody trusts O'leary and people like him from now on. There are no angels. Vitalik sold a lot of ETH last year, Musk sold bitcoins and Tesla shares... These guys are not our friends.

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January 08, 2023, 11:02:36 AM
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If he didn't lose anything it means that although he was shilling for SBF he was smart enough to hold his investment out of FTX.
You might misunderstood my post, as I didn't say that O'Leary didn't lose anything but rather that he didn't lose everything. Out of $15 million he got from FTX, $9.7 million was in STT tokens that he was holding in exchange and he invested $1 million in equity, meaning that he should have $4.3 million left from that deal. Not bad at all i think.


A real believer would've taken 15 mill from SBF, put it all in crypto and held the coins on FTX but a smart guy who did his research would reinvest elsewhere.
Well, we know that he wasn't a believer because just few years ago he called bitcoin garbage. He was just a mercenary, paid to promote the exchange.

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