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December 20, 2022, 07:26:31 PM
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The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

It's not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.
Opening the games to players vs players is your idea of competition, The casino's want the competition to be between you and them more than they want the competition to be between you and another player. And just as already said that the casinos are businesses that always prioritize making high profits, the casino's stand a better chance making more when you compete with them than when you compete with another person that they will have to share the profit with.

The casino can generate income regardless of who the client plays with, whether it is the casino itself or another client because the casino has its own percentage of the turnover.

Most casinos do not develop games themselves, but buy them from developers who specialize in casino software.

In my opinion the idea of OP is difficult to implement and it is not known a few will be in demand since much in such a game will depend not only on the experience of the players, but also the latency of the Internet, the possibility of fraud, etc. Casino is much easier to buy a ready-made game that will work on the server and make money.

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December 20, 2022, 09:55:16 PM
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Hem!! First of all, there is no reason to denigrate what exists and in fact you look very bad, because if we do a survey of traditional casino games and what you mention, you will be last with your proposal.

 The fact that you do not see it does not mean that it does not exist, in any case online you can find many niches where games are organized with FtoF.

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December 20, 2022, 10:09:11 PM
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One of the challenges that confront the fast-growing gaming I industry is the lack of p2p virtual games but am sure there development is underway, with some casinos already offering such player-to-player games on the casinos but mostly in unpopular games. But games like mortals combats are old popular games that players will love to see them back on the casinos with advanced features and outlooks that will give combatants a nice experience playing those old games again, I believe the web3 virtual gaming industry is growing fast and soon we will have web3 casino offering such games for their client to enjoy and compete against each other.

The problem that all these developers face is the same and that's cheating. In a game of chance the casino "rolls" and can prove that the number was randomly chosen. You cannot cheat. The only way to cheat is if you're able to somehow hack the API and see what the house has rolled before rolling yourself. I remember that this used to be possible in some early casinos years ago especially when playing blackjack. The casino would roll and you'd be able to see what it has and could choose to fold early if it had a high number.

With PVP games you're not playing against the house but someone else and the casino has no way to verify if you both play fair. You could be using bots, scripts, macros, just like people who play CS.
When a player gets caught cheating in CS it results in a ban, but it doesn't happen in the first round. Usually a player is able to play for a while before being caught.
Imagine that you'd cheat in a casino and withdraw after each game. After playing 3 games they'd ban you, but the money from your previous wins would already be lost. People would think it's worth getting banned if they can get some free money out of it.

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December 20, 2022, 10:22:39 PM
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There's this thread that's also asked about PVP esports games and if it's possible for the casinos to have them. But if can't be found on any casino, you can start your own community doing this type of betting and gaming.
Now, the question starts with how can you be sure that someone won't have that automated responses to their attacks and counter-attacks against other opponents by installing some software that it can be done possibly.

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December 20, 2022, 10:27:50 PM
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There are many reasons why online casinos may not offer games that allow players to bet against each other. Online casinos are businesses. As such, they need to generate revenue in order to stay in business. In traditional casino games, the house has an advantage over the players. This is known as the "house edge." By offering games where players bet against each other, a casino would not be able to take a cut of wagers and would not be able to generate revenue in the same way. The house edge is what makes online casinos profitable. In addition, many online casinos are simply not set up in a way that allows them to offer player-vs.-player games. The software they use may not be designed for this type of gameplay and may need to be modified before it can be used effectively.

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December 20, 2022, 10:38:00 PM
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There are many reasons why online casinos may not offer games that allow players to bet against each other. Online casinos are businesses. As such, they need to generate revenue in order to stay in business. In traditional casino games, the house has an advantage over the players. This is known as the "house edge." By offering games where players bet against each other, a casino would not be able to take a cut of wagers and would not be able to generate revenue in the same way. The house edge is what makes online casinos profitable. In addition, many online casinos are simply not set up in a way that allows them to offer player-vs.-player games. The software they use may not be designed for this type of gameplay and may need to be modified before it can be used effectively.

Aside on speaking about on how to integrate it then it would really be a complex one one but not really that the issue but rather on how they would be making money out of these games.
If we do consider that each fight or round would last up 3 minutes and entire fight cost about 5-7 minutes or earlier basing on the fight or on how well are the players then it is something
that they dont really want because they are losing soo much time for just peanuts on getting commission on each fight that would be happening.
Instead for those people to look or find on something like this then they could always make out some offline or local bets in regarding on this one.

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December 20, 2022, 10:48:54 PM
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A thread relating to this topic have been posted here before, I think last week,
But being a lover of P2P games myself, I can never trash a topic like this, indeed, there are no cool games in casinos that some one like me could play out of fun without minding whether I am loosing money or not, aside some in-house games like keno, dice and the rest, other games like the games provided by pragmatic,. evolution etc, are not just interesting to play aside the fact that winning money is the goal.

I am eagerly waiting for the first casino that will launch a P2P game in their casino for users, it doesn't have to necessary be a fighting game like mortal combat and the likes, it could be a card game, board game, word game etc. Dice can even be converted to become a P2P game if the casino will be willing to put in the work involved.

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December 20, 2022, 11:13:39 PM
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The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.

Maybe the massive demand is not there. Playing the usual casino games and slots is more accessible even to newbies and they can play it right away. PVP games are associated with skills and only those who know games like Tekken and similar games will risk money on that competition.

Since that was a skilled-game, there might be professionals that will join the game, and chances to face them are always possible in a certain room. That's not a friendly-game for newbies that's why it might not attract many users but only gamers.

Again, if you want that kind of competition, you can organize an event maybe on your locals or here in the Gambling section.

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December 20, 2022, 11:35:20 PM
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The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.

Maybe the massive demand is not there. Playing the usual casino games and slots is more accessible even to newbies and they can play it right away. PVP games are associated with skills and only those who know games like Tekken and similar games will risk money on that competition.

Since that was a skilled-game, there might be professionals that will join the game, and chances to face them are always possible in a certain room. That's not a friendly-game for newbies that's why it might not attract many users but only gamers.

Again, if you want that kind of competition, you can organize an event maybe on your locals or here in the Gambling section.
Above all the edge casino makes out of those bets were very minimal. Just the participants place the money and the winner takes everything. The gambling platform serving as escrow will receive the fee, that's it. For this it is good to organise events through the gambling section.

Already these kind of player versus player games have got more events and are well organised and live streaming were broadcast. So very few person who hadn't got the opportunity will try to make use of the platform. This keeps the section to be used by very limited number of gamers.

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Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.
I already mentioned this in other PVP threads and the issue with most of them is that not every gambler will be always available to play in the same time so it's not that easy to get matched with another player and with that most gamblers would prefer to stick with games they could play anytime. There's still platforms that would let you bet and host your own game but they don't make a lot of profit since the process eats up too much time.

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The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.


For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

you can choose 4 characters.

Opponent can choose 4 characters.


Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.


The more hours you play the more skilled you get and can get confident in changing bet size.



There are too many problems with this, first do you think the company behind Tekken or other fighting games are going to allow their franchise to be associated with gambling? Second do you really realize how difficult something like this would be? While you can play against other players online there are always complains about lag, and while this can be annoying when you are playing for fun, can you imagine losing hundreds of dollars just because your character did not respond to your commands?
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The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.


For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

you can choose 4 characters.

Opponent can choose 4 characters.


Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.


The more hours you play the more skilled you get and can get confident in changing bet size.
It's not a bad idea but who will promote it?
If you look at electronic game betting, it's not really that many supporters there because of the less promotion, and trends, then, there's the necessity of streaming it live to avoid cheating although it can still happen even if they are being watched. I am just saying PVPs are always prone to this darkness.
I can bet for my opponent and then sell the game. Something like that.
It's happening in popular sports so why not in the unknown ones?

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I think you can easily do this in your local arcade if you have one. I know a lot of players are normally meeting there. You can easily find a match there who is also willing to make a bet. Or you can actually look for a tournament of whatever game you want to play and register. If you are already playing then you can challenge your opponent for a friendly bet. I think this is your option for now if you want to play PVP and make a bet. I haven't heard of a crypto gambling platform so far that is offering this feature.

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Cause "cool" is subjective. It's more like casino games are always repetitive instead, lacking that breath of fresh air that can stimulate someone, though in that case most would actually look for other games, not specifically gambling games. Game devs, from indies to big ones release new games, both competitive and non-competitive ones all around the year so if you're looking for "games" to play, then that's what you should be looking for imo.

On OP's idea though, there was a game called "Your Only Move Is HUSTLE", it was interesting to me since it wasn't you technically controlling the character in real-time, but more like a simulation. If say an AI can randomly simulate it, then it may introduce some sort of randomness (AI has some sort of unique perk that differentiates it from other AI's, so they're unique in their own way). Might be a fun thing to gamble with.

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I already read it somewhere here in the forum and the example is mortal combat i think. So it would be like our childhood that we are going to other cafe just to play computer games and who ever wins they will bring the pot money . So it would be nice to integrate this online and in casino. I am sure there are already website like this but not in online casino since it is really known but what i am sure of is that players are jus negotiating in messages to settle the fight and both agreed about the terms and their pot money will be held in escrow
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The standard of cool play can differ from many perspectives. If you mean you can bet and play adventure games at the same time, maybe this will only attract attention from gamers. On the other hand, because this industry must also be oriented towards pvp games, they must be able to compete in terms of the quality of games in general.

So far I don't see any game of this type (non table pvp) surviving longer due to lack of interest from normal gamblers.

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I think you can easily do this in your local arcade if you have one. I know a lot of players are normally meeting there. You can easily find a match there who is also willing to make a bet. Or you can actually look for a tournament of whatever game you want to play and register. If you are already playing then you can challenge your opponent for a friendly bet. I think this is your option for now if you want to play PVP and make a bet. I haven't heard of a crypto gambling platform so far that is offering this feature.

This will solve OP's desire to look for cool games. Teens are always betting on arcades at least at my nearby arcade, this also makes you get out of your house and socialize.

But for the adult ones who actually learned Tekken, it's like going back to your teen life. What would local friends think of you still playing on the local store while you are in your 40s lol. Yeep doing online I guess is an option which there isn't pet a platform for it.

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The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.

You have a great idea, why not find a developer and pays them to develop it. Casinos will only add games that have been provided by providers because making games requires big funds and extra hard work.
However, PvP games are not very popular in casinos, which is why casinos will only provide games that are popular and provide many benefits for them.
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The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.


For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

you can choose 4 characters.

Opponent can choose 4 characters.


Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.


The more hours you play the more skilled you get and can get confident in changing bet size.




Most probably this will be implemented in the near future or distant future because it depends on what the revenue of casinos are from the normal games that we have.I see tons of players playing slot machines at Stake website as I can check the bets there and based on this I can say that most likely this what you are asking will be implemented in the distant future when people will get bored of slots,if they will ever get because the slot providers keep creating all new sort of slots with different game play mechanics,so unfortunately I don't think it will be implemented soon enough.

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December 21, 2022, 07:34:31 AM
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The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.

Poker is player vs. player.

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The more hours you play the more skilled you get and can get confident in changing bet size.

1.The same thing applies to playing poker. The more you play, the more experience you get(but that doesn't necessarily makes you a better player).
2.Skill based gambling games can be exploited. This is why a game like chess isn't suitable for gambling. You are a chess rookie and you are facing some chess master like Magnus Carlsen. Who is going to win? The answer is obvious. What's the point of betting money on such chess match?
There's a reason why luck-based gambling games like dice/crash/slots dominate the online gambling industry.

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