UK Norway finland and sweden economy in BIG debt

[Fullbear2222]

UK Norway finland sweden in biggest debt.
Finland been famous of taking all the exsessive money.
Each country have their own purpose in this global scheme.
It's clear that UK been used as all the Western countries inflation parking Spot.
What Will you do the countries wich Has the biggest debts and bad equity and bad bonds ?
You want to make sure they cant connect with other country markets so keep the financial dirt in there and dont Let it out.

How you do keep financial dirt in there?
War Crisis power outages and all the other possible ways you can think about it.

But to clear out all the debt war can Do that easy.
Likely only solution is war russia vs UK finland Norway sweden If war can devastete those countries a lot bad debt Will cleared and our financial system a lot more clean.

Let's see what the wall Street Will decide to do until now it's safe to keep away from those countries.

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[franky1]

war does not clear debt.
it creates debt

did you know

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_British_national_debt#World_War_II

and in 1945 Britain took a loan for $586 million (about £145 million at 1945 exchange rates), and in addition a further $3.7 billion line of credit (about £930m at 1945 exchange rates). The debt was to be paid off in 50 annual repayments commencing in 1950. Some of these loans were only paid off in the early 21st century. On 31 December 2006, Britain made a final payment of about $83m (£45.5m) and thereby discharged the last of its war loans from the US.

yep the UK got into alot of debt due to WW2 which the US bank rolled and then asked for yearly payments for 56 years

yep the uk only paid off the 1940's war in 2006

[dothebeats]

War certainly pushes countries to make huge debts to fund their military and their cause. No matter the aftermath of the war, debt still remains, and the country who asked for that debt will be bound to repay it no matter the cost. Even if the country is obliterated to bits after the war, the remaining officials of that country will still have to pay that debt otherwise there will be some form of collateral to it. Power crisis/outage and all that kind of stuff will only force the country to borrow money to provide for their needs. You have to force the country to not spend, and in sabotaging its necessities you are not clearing debt but raising it.

[Moneyprism]

i don't know which source you read that says that war can clear debts,, but in fact it's war that makes a country have an increasing debt, as experienced by Ukraine,, this is one of the countries that in the future will have more and more debts to America and its allies because the weapons and aid provided by America are usually not free and in the future they will charge for this, it can be in the form of resources or Ukraine will become a market for American products .. not to mention the armament that Ukraine bought to defend their country, this debt will last for generations to come

[NotATether]

War certainly pushes countries to make huge debts to fund their military and their cause.

It reminds me of Ukraine and Russia. Sure, the IMF has Ukraine covered with restructuring loans, but who is going to finance loans for Russia after their war? Their collaborators (Belarus and Iran) do not have that kind of money.

[davis196]

It reminds me of Ukraine and Russia. Sure, the IMF has Ukraine covered with restructuring loans, but who is going to finance loans for Russia after their war? Their collaborators (Belarus and Iran) do not have that kind of money.

The Russian people, I guess. The Russian government will try to squeeze out as much money/resources from the ordinary Russians as it can.
Anyway, it's pretty clear that this forum member(Fullbear2222) is spamming/trolling the forum with low quality posts. It's kinda pointless to respond to his oversimplified conspiracy theories. Another forum member was spamming the Economics forum years ago. Maybe this is his alt account.

[dothebeats]

War certainly pushes countries to make huge debts to fund their military and their cause.

It reminds me of Ukraine and Russia. Sure, the IMF has Ukraine covered with restructuring loans, but who is going to finance loans for Russia after their war? Their collaborators (Belarus and Iran) do not have that kind of money.

They can ask China and other communist countries for debt (NoKor? LOL). If the war is over for Russia and they lost against Ukraine, their only hope is to open up those gas pipes and start accepting customer from Europe again. For sure that wouldn't be that easy for Putin to do, but one way or another he has to accept defeat, because no one's going to constantly fund this war for him. Those gas deposits that Russia has is the only way to save their country financially, but good luck asking to the IMF or the World Bank for loans because in their eyes, Russia is the bad guy.

It reminds me of Ukraine and Russia. Sure, the IMF has Ukraine covered with restructuring loans, but who is going to finance loans for Russia after their war? Their collaborators (Belarus and Iran) do not have that kind of money.

The Russian people, I guess. The Russian government will try to squeeze out as much money/resources from the ordinary Russians as it can.

This is why most of the Russian millionaires/billionaires are leaving the country. They don't believe in the communist ideology crap that Putin is instilling within the nation. It's every comrade for Russia, and never Russia for every comrade. Good luck fighting a war of attrition with a country that is backed by tons of governments and $$$ literally pouring from every corner of the world.

[South Park]

But to clear out all the debt war can Do that easy.
Likely only solution is war russia vs UK finland Norway sweden If war can devastete those countries a lot bad debt Will cleared and our financial system a lot more clean.

Let's see what the wall Street Will decide to do until now it's safe to keep away from those countries.

I am not so sure why you picked those countries for your theory, I say this because the majority of the countries around the world are heavily indebted since they rescued the banks at the end of the subprime mortgage crisis, according to your theory then the whole EU and the US should go to war immediately with Russia so their debts will be forfeited, but we know that is not how the world works, and the only scenario in which somehow what you are proposing could work is if there was a nuclear war that brought the world back to zero, but that will be the worst scenario for humanity all over the world, so I hope this never happens.

[Hydrogen]

The cynical and stereotypical response is to say banks and governments would loan money to both sides of a war. To rake in massive profits on interest payments. As OP mentioned state bureaucracies already carry high amounts of debt, which would make it difficult for them to finance war. More than 50% of banks also carry large amounts of debt.

If war arises, it would require other methods to fund it. We have seen nations like russia and china amass armies of forced conscripts who are paid lower wages in contrast to professional soldiers. We have also seen russia deny the use of its airforce to keep war costs down. With the exception of big american spending in the russia vs ukraine conflict, cost cutting has been the #1 priority.

If war breaks out, it will be a budget war. No one has the deep pockets to finance massive invasions like the US vs Iraq. Not anymore. Everyone is broke by this point.

The only major nation carrying low amounts of debt is russia. With debt near to 20% of GDP. The origins story of how that happened, has to be an interesting one. Whatever it is.

[DrBeer]

It reminds me of Ukraine and Russia. Sure, the IMF has Ukraine covered with restructuring loans, but who is going to finance loans for Russia after their war? Their collaborators (Belarus and Iran) do not have that kind of money.

The answer is extremely simple: either "voluntary" reparations to be paid by Russia. Or the forced seizure of assets, raw materials and similar highly liquid objects for their sale and compensation for losses to Ukraine. Moreover, this will be the total amount, which will include both direct losses and indirect ones, such as the loss of the country's population, loans, and so on. In that number, I will clarify once again - and the loans received for armament and support for the economy.
The only question is whether payments or forced withdrawal can be somewhat complicated if Russia, as a result of the expected loss in the war it unleashed, breaks up into several independent states. But, in this case, the rule of collective responsibility will most likely work ...

PS The US Congress has already passed a law on blocking and seizing the assets of Russian aligarhs who support the terrorist war against Ukraine, with further sale (if it is not finance) and transfer of money to Ukraine!

[serveria.com]

UK Norway finland sweden in biggest debt.
Finland been famous of taking all the exsessive money.
Each country have their own purpose in this global scheme.
It's clear that UK been used as all the Western countries inflation parking Spot.
What Will you do the countries wich Has the biggest debts and bad equity and bad bonds ?
You want to make sure they cant connect with other country markets so keep the financial dirt in there and dont Let it out.

How you do keep financial dirt in there?
War Crisis power outages and all the other possible ways you can think about it.

But to clear out all the debt war can Do that easy.
Likely only solution is war russia vs UK finland Norway sweden If war can devastete those countries a lot bad debt Will cleared and our financial system a lot more clean.

Let's see what the wall Street Will decide to do until now it's safe to keep away from those countries.

It's weird as I heard Norway has been doing really good since the war started because of the oil and gas reserves they have and they're now making billions after increasing their fossils export to EU. 

[Lucius]

The Russian people, I guess. The Russian government will try to squeeze out as much money/resources from the ordinary Russians as it can.
Anyway, it's pretty clear that this forum member(Fullbear2222) is spamming/trolling the forum with low quality posts. It's kinda pointless to respond to his oversimplified conspiracy theories. Another forum member was spamming the Economics forum years ago. Maybe this is his alt account.

Ordinary people are always the ones who pay the highest price, many unfortunately in their own lives, and later in some other things, such as tax increases, inflation and falling living standards. The choice is still up to all of them, but if you don't want positive changes, then be ready to accept severe consequences.

Anyway, it's pretty clear that this forum member(Fullbear2222) is spamming/trolling the forum with low quality posts. It's kinda pointless to respond to his oversimplified conspiracy theories. Another forum member was spamming the Economics forum years ago. Maybe this is his alt account.

I made an exception, otherwise I agree with you and I'm sure this is an alt account of one of those trolls who have destroyed this board in the past with their nonsense. Instead of an answer, I advise everyone to report threads like this as a "low-value topic".

[so98nn]

Western countries and their past deeds, now we get it. It’s hard boomerang that’s hitting them very hard now. Let’s not forget UK was on the quest to capture the whole world, literally entire globe man. Imagine the kind of money that went into the war. As @franky1 stated they cleared the debts in 2006. Well by the time they do not clear the debts unforeseen circumstances started coming up within next decade. As we know very well, past 3-4 years have been hard to entire sphere and we are still not recovered.
Definitely worst yet to come I guess.

[OROBTC]

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Essentially every country (and many many people, local governments, etc.) are deeply in debt.

This is not good, and usually ends very poorly.  We are at the point that it will become impossible to pay back those debts without hyperinflation, debt defaults, or further debts (or combinations thereof).

Like I have to tell bitcoiners to have paid-for assets outside the system (BTC, gold, etc.).

[Fortify]

UK Norway finland sweden in biggest debt.
Finland been famous of taking all the exsessive money.
Each country have their own purpose in this global scheme.
It's clear that UK been used as all the Western countries inflation parking Spot.
What Will you do the countries wich Has the biggest debts and bad equity and bad bonds ?
You want to make sure they cant connect with other country markets so keep the financial dirt in there and dont Let it out.

How you do keep financial dirt in there?
War Crisis power outages and all the other possible ways you can think about it.

But to clear out all the debt war can Do that easy.
Likely only solution is war russia vs UK finland Norway sweden If war can devastete those countries a lot bad debt Will cleared and our financial system a lot more clean.

Let's see what the wall Street Will decide to do until now it's safe to keep away from those countries.

You have a habit of speaking out of your ass and not actually providing any evidence to back up your claims. If you are going to make such bold claims and accusations then why not actually link to a source that people can trust, because it certainly isn't you. Norway is actually exceptionally rich because they have made a lot of money from oil which goes into a sovereign wealth fund that in turn owns large shares of many companies around the world. Besides that, being in debt itself is not a problem - in fact being able to borrow in your own currency because you are so trusted in repaying your debts is a position that most countries aspire to get in. You are really clueless and delusional when it comes to your ideas on world economics.

[DrBeer]

It reminds me of Ukraine and Russia. Sure, the IMF has Ukraine covered with restructuring loans, but who is going to finance loans for Russia after their war? Their collaborators (Belarus and Iran) do not have that kind of money.

It is clear that neither China, nor India, nor even the outcast country of Iran, will want to mess with Russia much. Yes, Iran supplies drones and may supply missiles to kill the civilian population of Ukraine, but it does this only because of one thing - Russia promised to help with their nuclear program ...
The cash cow of the terrorist regime of the Kremlin is the 100 million population of the country. No, 140 million people are not there, this is also a fake ....
So, these weak-willed bodies will suffer and live in complete shit, but they will "wait for victory over NATO and the USA." This is a sickly genetic fantasy I remember this dream of the USSR from my childhood, which I spent in that very vile USSR ....
A few facts about which pro-Russian propagandists and their supporters will not tell:
1. No more than 25-30% of payments for the death of Russian terrorists (officially - military personnel of the Russian army) are paid from the budget. The rest of the money is stolen. That is why Russia does not take the corpses of its soldiers from our territory - if there is no corpse, it means that he did not die, but is considered "missing." Such an abomination, but a fact
2. All programs and budgets of the social orientation of the Russian Federation have been reduced at times, many are simply frozen. For example, retirement savings. Well, Putin will not wage war "out of his own pocket"? He has slaves who will pay for it
3. Just the other day, the head of the National Bank of Russia, Nabiulina, made a proposal to the Director of the Department of Financial Recovery, that it is necessary, forcibly, without agreement with depositors, to replace all deposits of individuals in Russian banks with government bonds of the state defense program. And trust me, they will. And the weak-willed inhabitants of Russia will again silently swallow this act.

Then they will sell oil/az/gold to China for a penny. Then they will hand over the Trans-Urals to China "for a long-term lease" for some money. By the way, some of the territories have already been handed over to China for 99 years, and there ... Russian legislation does not apply China has begun to return its historical territories