Betting strategy question

[SirLancelot]

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Although technically true, in reality this way of thinking doesn't help you much, to be honest. And that is so because when playing a game with 99% RTP instead of 96% RTP you are not guaranteed to win anything. What you are guaranteed it to lose less in the long run. And that "run" is very long. It is so long that it may never happen.

True, but in some cases people blindly gamble in games that are extremely bad in terms of odds. Casinos make those games just in case someone doesn't care at all about the odds, and those basically make the casino win almost all the time. Of course it's designed so that it doesn't feel like that, it will give you small wins here and there, but overall the ratio would be hugely in favor to the casino.

If you play other games like roulette, etc, then it's more straight forward. I mean, I've seen people play on a roulette with a double zero in it when a roulette without a double zero was just next to it. That's just weird in my mind.

So the bad odds that you mean are high chance games? Because, you mentioned something about small wins there. I think bad odds can also be the games which the player has a much lesser chance to win like for example in the lottery. The only good thing about them is that the wins are also huge once you hit them.

It's not that people gamble blindly but gambling is only built that way, for the people to play for fun with less expectations that they can earn a profit. Other than the odds, the casino can also win most of the times because of the house edge. About the roulette game, there are different types of it (ie Amercian, Russian, European, etc.) Some has a zero while the other don't have it. Maybe some just prefer a roulette game with zeros on them as they think they are luckier on it.

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[lizarder]

There's one thing about looking for the best betting strategies to choose, one has to have an experience while gambling in using more than one before they can decided on the one to choose that best suit their want, in gambling no matter how you developed your strategy, it may only increases your chances of winning abit but that doesn't mean you're not going to losses any match played, we bet to win or loose irrespective of how good our pattern is in gambling.

I want to know what strategy you use when betting outside of soccer betting, I can also understand when you rely on analysis when betting on football, but how do you see the odds when we play slot gambling and so on. I have heard a lot about the number of spins in slot systems and will stop in the same pattern over and over again at the chance to win, but also not so sure we are on a fair spin. How far can our intelligence reach the system, especially when the system starts to restart.

For me the system is very fair in betting on football as a place for fun and although I also often use other bets when there is an opportunity to play, because every time we place a bet we will make a convincing analysis for a particular bet. Am I missing something from today's increasingly sophisticated gambling systems?

[tusandii]

There is basically no way to shift the odds in your favor unless your luck supports you every single time you gamble. No strategy can turn the odds against the house and give you an advantage while the house already has an edge. The only thing that might allow a person to have maybe a little bit of profit, in the long run, is they just withdraw as soon as they win a good enough price.

That's right, friend, there is no way to change the odds in your favor except for luck.
Indeed, there is no strategy that can go against the house because the house is the owner of the absolute victory in gambling, but do you not understand that using strategy can at least provide small opportunities for gamblers to take advantage because playing carelessly relies on luck just like someone who does charity (easy to lose money).

Other than that, there is no way one's losses can be exceeded by wins. If that was possible, the casino business would not be much profitable for their owners and they would have a hard time maintaining a good enough bankroll for all their operations.

The casino business can generate a lot of money and profit because of the many gamblers who have managed to win and surpass defeats, only one or two people so that whatever wins these people get can still be covered by defeat from most of the other gamblers who lose money.
If we do research, there are not many professional gamblers who manage to get big wins regularly, in fact there are more novice gamblers who will only continue to deposit their money so that the casino will always have an advantage.

[pawel7777]

There is basically no way to shift the odds in your favor unless your luck supports you every single time you gamble. No strategy can turn the odds against the house and give you an advantage while the house already has an edge. The only thing that might allow a person to have maybe a little bit of profit, in the long run, is they just withdraw as soon as they win a good enough price.

That's generally true for games with fixed mathematical odds, such as dice, or roulette. But even then sometimes is possible for a player to have an advantage, i.e. if there's a high accumulation jackpot to be won or for the games like blackjack, there's a strategy of card counting

But the real fun begins where the odds cannot be strictly determined by maths, but where there's an element of judgment needed, i.e. in sports betting. Then you could run your own odds analysis and if you spot an opportunity where (in your opinion) a betting site misjudged the odds - you could take advantage of that. But the best example of a strategy that gives you the advantage is arbitrage betting, but you can get banned for doing that.

[dezoel]

~snip~
Although technically true, in reality this way of thinking doesn't help you much, to be honest. And that is so because when playing a game with 99% RTP instead of 96% RTP you are not guaranteed to win anything. What you are guaranteed it to lose less in the long run. And that "run" is very long. It is so long that it may never happen.

True, but in some cases people blindly gamble in games that are extremely bad in terms of odds. Casinos make those games just in case someone doesn't care at all about the odds, and those basically make the casino win almost all the time. Of course it's designed so that it doesn't feel like that, it will give you small wins here and there, but overall the ratio would be hugely in favor to the casino.

If you play other games like roulette, etc, then it's more straight forward. I mean, I've seen people play on a roulette with a double zero in it when a roulette without a double zero was just next to it. That's just weird in my mind.

Are you referring to slot games when you say that the games basically make the casino win almost all the time and give users only small wins and the ratio is mostly in favor of the house? Because that is what happens in slot games but if you look at the stats or conduct a survey, slot games are the most favorite of all gamblers and they are the most played games in any casino.

The main reason why most people play these games is the engagement and enjoyment they provide, some also like their graphics and display elements, and only some play for profits which is very hard to get in them.

[_act_]

Are you referring to slot games when you say that the games basically make the casino win almost all the time and give users only small wins and the ratio is mostly in favor of the house? Because that is what happens in slot games but if you look at the stats or conduct a survey, slot games are the most favorite of all gamblers and they are the most played games in any casino.

Slot are the most played? But others are played too very well. Can you see football, house edge is obvious and you do not have to look deeper before you will notice that. If you gamble, the chance that the house would win is always higher while gambling with them. That is why you will see gambling sites generally generating money and growing and getting richer as they have more people that are gambling with them.

[Casdinyard]

Are you referring to slot games when you say that the games basically make the casino win almost all the time and give users only small wins and the ratio is mostly in favor of the house? Because that is what happens in slot games but if you look at the stats or conduct a survey, slot games are the most favorite of all gamblers and they are the most played games in any casino.

Slot are the most played? But others are played too very well. Can you see football, house edge is obvious and you do not have to look deeper before you will notice that. If you gamble, the chance that the house would win is always higher while gambling with them. That is why you will see gambling sites generally generating money and growing and getting richer as they have more people that are gambling with them.

Uh of course, how else is the casino going to make money?

The question is not about what games involve luck or whatnot because honestly everything that involves gambling must at least involve some level of luck as well to go to your favor. Be it slots, or even boxing matches. Other games may have been played but as it stands today based on statistical empirical data, slots turns out to be the most played game in every casino you'll frequent in, and for good reason too. With other games you have to know the mechanics and whatnot which honestly is a tedious process especially if you're only looking to let off some steam and relax, but Slots on the other hand offers that relaxation and release significantly faster as there's very little to no rules that you need to follow. Just crank the lever and go to town with it.

[madnessteat]

Are you referring to slot games when you say that the games basically make the casino win almost all the time and give users only small wins and the ratio is mostly in favor of the house? Because that is what happens in slot games but if you look at the stats or conduct a survey, slot games are the most favorite of all gamblers and they are the most played games in any casino.

Slot are the most played? But others are played too very well. Can you see football, house edge is obvious and you do not have to look deeper before you will notice that. If you gamble, the chance that the house would win is always higher while gambling with them. That is why you will see gambling sites generally generating money and growing and getting richer as they have more people that are gambling with them.

Slots and soccer betting are completely different gambling games, but they both attract a huge number of different gamblers. As your opponent pointed out above slots are the most common games of chance, and soccer can safely be called the most famous sporting game in the world and, accordingly, this game is the most popular sports betting.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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In purely luck-based games(like the game in the OP, btw) it doesn't matter whether your emotions envolved, or it's "rational" judgment or a clouded one. It all depends on luck. Period.

A small correction. The above statement is true if you want to earn money through gambling. If your goal is to have fun, then, of course, it is more rational to not bet all your balance at once, but make smaller bets to last longer.

Yeah, it's all just luck, but you can help your luck by playing games that have more probabilities of you winning than others.

It's all math in the end, luck can be helped with it.

I think that emotions are involved in every game, and it cannot be avoided, unless the person playing is a bot, and that is something I rule out, because we all like to play and enjoy, but when talking about emotions, one may think that you have to control them, but it's something too difficult, if there are people who just because of their emotions give them a high tension and just because they can't control their emotions, now in the game where everything is so busy it's something very different but it has a Same effect, only that in the game things go to another level because it is money That is involved.

[Fredomago]

~snip~
In purely luck-based games(like the game in the OP, btw) it doesn't matter whether your emotions envolved, or it's "rational" judgment or a clouded one. It all depends on luck. Period.

A small correction. The above statement is true if you want to earn money through gambling. If your goal is to have fun, then, of course, it is more rational to not bet all your balance at once, but make smaller bets to last longer.

Yeah, it's all just luck, but you can help your luck by playing games that have more probabilities of you winning than others.

It's all math in the end, luck can be helped with it.

I think that emotions are involved in every game, and it cannot be avoided, unless the person playing is a bot, and that is something I rule out, because we all like to play and enjoy, but when talking about emotions, one may think that you have to control them, but it's something too difficult, if there are people who just because of their emotions give them a high tension and just because they can't control their emotions, now in the game where everything is so busy it's something very different but it has a Same effect, only that in the game things go to another level because it is money That is involved.

It's money and the fear of losing it each time you play/bet really affects your emotions, different reaction from both winnings and losing streaks, if you can't control that emotions even you have a good understanding with mathematically probabilities and some luck behind you, you can still lose a lot, worse, you can lose all your bankrolls with a small mistake in following your emotions.

You need to work everything together to enjoy and yet to gain some benefits during your stay inside the house.

[pawel7777]

Are you referring to slot games when you say that the games basically make the casino win almost all the time and give users only small wins and the ratio is mostly in favor of the house? Because that is what happens in slot games but if you look at the stats or conduct a survey, slot games are the most favorite of all gamblers and they are the most played games in any casino.

The main reason why most people play these games is the engagement and enjoyment they provide, some also like their graphics and display elements, and only some play for profits which is very hard to get in them.

Yup, that's a good example of the fact that we, as humans, are primarily driven by basic hormonal instincts rather than by cold-calculated rational decisions.
I'd argue if the slot-machine playing actually provides the "enjoyment", it's probably more related to getting addicted to the dopamine rush they provide and to satisfying that addiction. It's probably in the same category as young men being addicted to porn. Both behaviours are very destructive in the long-run.

Reposting the video link, can you spot a sign of joy on any of those faces?:
https://www.tiktok.com/embed/v2/7161651825425354026

[Hirose UK]

Are you referring to slot games when you say that the games basically make the casino win almost all the time and give users only small wins and the ratio is mostly in favor of the house? Because that is what happens in slot games but if you look at the stats or conduct a survey, slot games are the most favorite of all gamblers and they are the most played games in any casino.

Slot are the most played? But others are played too very well. Can you see football, house edge is obvious and you do not have to look deeper before you will notice that. If you gamble, the chance that the house would win is always higher while gambling with them. That is why you will see gambling sites generally generating money and growing and getting richer as they have more people that are gambling with them.

Slots and soccer betting are completely different gambling games, but they both attract a huge number of different gamblers. As your opponent pointed out above slots are the most common games of chance, and soccer can safely be called the most famous sporting game in the world and, accordingly, this game is the most popular sports betting.

The difference is clearly visible, slots are games that are bet on and operate with machines where there is a system that works to run this game, while football betting is a sports bet that is directly related to the course of a match that is taking place.
But regarding the house edge, I need to say that the house edge can't do anything to beat gamblers in football sports betting, especially because the winning outcome is determined by the competing team, not the house edge.
But on the other hand the house edge cannot beat gamblers on sports betting they can still give very low odds against a team that has a high chance of winning the match.
The opportunity for gamblers to outsmart the low odds given by the house edge is only one, by placing more bets because when placing bets earlier the odds are still slightly higher.

[nullama]

~snip~
The difference is clearly visible, slots are games that are bet on and operate with machines where there is a system that works to run this game, while football betting is a sports bet that is directly related to the course of a match that is taking place.
But regarding the house edge, I need to say that the house edge can't do anything to beat gamblers in football sports betting, especially because the winning outcome is determined by the competing team, not the house edge.
But on the other hand the house edge cannot beat gamblers on sports betting they can still give very low odds against a team that has a high chance of winning the match.
The opportunity for gamblers to outsmart the low odds given by the house edge is only one, by placing more bets because when placing bets earlier the odds are still slightly higher.

True, at the end of the day the difference appears in the estimation of the odds. In games like roulette, or slots, etc, the odds are fixed and simple to calculate, say, 1 in 6 to roll a 4 on a dice. It's done, then the casino pays less than those odds, and that's the game.

For the sports bets though, that's a different story because the odds change all the time. Even in half time for example the reality has changed and the odds need to be updated. What remains the same is that the casino always pays less than what their estimated odds would indicate.

[Slow death]

However its still up to you, some would still bet their profits to huge prize and could win the jackpot. Which I couldn't risk since I don't believe in luck.

all people who play casino games like dice, plinko, and many other casino games are people who believe in luck, and casino games that depend on luck for people to win are games that people will not have any strategy, no matter how long it takes the person will not create any strategy, for example games like lottery, the person just buys a ticket and nothing else, there is no strategy, of course when the person is very rich he can buy a lot of tickets, but that is not something that will guarantee that person will hit the jackpot. the same thing can be said about plico or dice, even if the person has a lot of money and spends many hours playing it is not a guarantee

that the person will win a lot of money, on the contrary the chances of the person leaving with little money are very great, most of the time the person even leaves the casino poor and in debt, because nowadays with so much technology the person can call a friend and make a debt to play at the casino and lose everything and become poor. sports betting and card games are games that do not depend on luck, for this reason I prefer sports betting because in sports betting it is possible for the person to create strategies, plans so the final result is thanks to the strategy of each person, if someone you can do a good analysis of the games so you will be able to profit

[Fredomago]

~snip~
The difference is clearly visible, slots are games that are bet on and operate with machines where there is a system that works to run this game, while football betting is a sports bet that is directly related to the course of a match that is taking place.
But regarding the house edge, I need to say that the house edge can't do anything to beat gamblers in football sports betting, especially because the winning outcome is determined by the competing team, not the house edge.
But on the other hand the house edge cannot beat gamblers on sports betting they can still give very low odds against a team that has a high chance of winning the match.
The opportunity for gamblers to outsmart the low odds given by the house edge is only one, by placing more bets because when placing bets earlier the odds are still slightly higher.

True, at the end of the day the difference appears in the estimation of the odds. In games like roulette, or slots, etc, the odds are fixed and simple to calculate, say, 1 in 6 to roll a 4 on a dice. It's done, then the casino pays less than those odds, and that's the game.

For the sports bets though, that's a different story because the odds change all the time. Even in half time for example the reality has changed and the odds need to be updated. What remains the same is that the casino always pays less than what their estimated odds would indicate.

Yeah right, casino always has a good share with the odds. They calculated it according to how they will gain, no brainer in terms of the cut the casino always has in each bet that gamblers are taking using the platform. Each bets have corresponding profits for the house. Whatever game you are taking, there are always portions of it for the house.

Everything has been systematically prepared for the house benefits and even they lost to you. There's always another gambler that will cover it and will bring money for the business.

[348Judah]

No perfect strategies in gambling no matter how it works out, it may just be a luck and nothing more, when you gamble and wins then what comes next to your mind is the adoption of the best strategy used of which it's not in most cases, things happen coincidentally sometimes, we need to find a best match plug to strategize our games in orther to win, this now determines how skillful we are and how lucky as well we are when gambling.

[roslinpl]

The strategy can be created based on your own experience all the time. Every gambler will earn own strategy from his past experience on that game, mostly the game he played will be mastered by him. Even though the gamblers had their own strategy on the particular game, this can be changed on the luck was changed on your part. The unexpected result comes at the unexpected change in the luck. Whether the game was changed by the luck or not, you should have an habit of playing the desired game with the desired strategy. When the strategy was adopted at the correct time, the game will be changed to your advantage one at any time. Not all have guts to play the game with their own strategy, they will try to use of maximum money winner strategies.

[Hirose UK]

~snip~
The difference is clearly visible, slots are games that are bet on and operate with machines where there is a system that works to run this game, while football betting is a sports bet that is directly related to the course of a match that is taking place.
But regarding the house edge, I need to say that the house edge can't do anything to beat gamblers in football sports betting, especially because the winning outcome is determined by the competing team, not the house edge.
But on the other hand the house edge cannot beat gamblers on sports betting they can still give very low odds against a team that has a high chance of winning the match.
The opportunity for gamblers to outsmart the low odds given by the house edge is only one, by placing more bets because when placing bets earlier the odds are still slightly higher.

True, at the end of the day the difference appears in the estimation of the odds. In games like roulette, or slots, etc, the odds are fixed and simple to calculate, say, 1 in 6 to roll a 4 on a dice. It's done, then the casino pays less than those odds, and that's the game.

For the sports bets though, that's a different story because the odds change all the time. Even in half time for example the reality has changed and the odds need to be updated. What remains the same is that the casino always pays less than what their estimated odds would indicate.

Yes, because in betting a game, the odds that will be generated can already be seen when we play it and it's not us who determine the odds, but the house.
The game that you mentioned is going according to the plan made by the provider so we don't know what will happen or it can be said that there is no clarity or certainty about the game opportunities.

I wonder friends why some people equate betting on games and sports betting.
As you said, I agree, because sports betting has odds that will change from time to time depending on the course of the match, so that will provide more certain odds for our bets.

[nullama]

~snip~
So the bad odds that you mean are high chance games? Because, you mentioned something about small wins there. I think bad odds can also be the games which the player has a much lesser chance to win like for example in the lottery. The only good thing about them is that the wins are also huge once you hit them.

It's not that people gamble blindly but gambling is only built that way, for the people to play for fun with less expectations that they can earn a profit. Other than the odds, the casino can also win most of the times because of the house edge. About the roulette game, there are different types of it (ie Amercian, Russian, European, etc.) Some has a zero while the other don't have it. Maybe some just prefer a roulette game with zeros on them as they think they are luckier on it.

Some games are designed so that the gambler thinks they did alright, when in reality it was way off.

For example, let's say someone got 14 numbers right in some form of lotto, the gambler might think, well at least i got 14 right, or something like that, without realizing that the game can be designed so that 14 is the absolute minimum you will get, so basically the worst performance ever, yet still create the illusion of winning.

[Fredomago]

No perfect strategies in gambling no matter how it works out, it may just be a luck and nothing more, when you gamble and wins then what comes next to your mind is the adoption of the best strategy used of which it's not in most cases, things happen coincidentally sometimes, we need to find a best match plug to strategize our games in orther to win, this now determines how skillful we are and how lucky as well we are when gambling.

No one can accurately predict the outcome of any game, either game of luck, strategy and sports betting all are depending on how you predict and analyze the possible outcome, with luck behind you even the percentage to lose is 99% that 1% can still happen and eventually you will win the game.

So with losses, even you think that you are done and fully convince that your pick will bring you the win, if luck is against you then expect the outcome will not favor you.

Strategy or better to say experienced, if you have good experienced to apply, you might minimize your losses and possible to enjoy decent winnings when luck is playing beside you.