Betting strategy question

[Chipstars]

Gamblers who can't control themselves will keep playing until they really run out of money

If only. The ones with serious gambling addiction won't stop even at that. When they run out of money they'd often choose to go into debt, pawn their car or other items, borrow from family, or even steal from the close ones.
It's a serious condition and I find it hard to have any sort of respect for a business that would try to capitalise on that.

But if gamblers are more focused on having fun then any win will be considered a bonus because according to them satisfaction and pleasure are their main goals for playing gambling, the fact is that people like that don't care about experiencing any defeat as long as they can still control it, everything will definitely be fine.  

That's a different category, those who only visit casino during a night-out with friends are probably safe from any life-changing losses, but there are also a lot of people, often elderly pensioners, who visit casinos as they have no real alternatives for having "fun". That's pretty sad really.

Chronic addicts will do anything to get money just to gamble once there is no other way to get the money, once there is no one they can trust to lend to, once there is nothing left to pawn or sell. Crime will cross their mind, and without much thought and all they have on their mind is money to gamble. And I think there are a lot of cases like that and when they get caught, they will tell the results to give vent to their addiction.

and gamble just for fun because I think going to casinos is fun. It's not something I do often, as my current financial situation doesn't allow it. But there's something about the casino environment that I find energizing, and it's not unlike going out to a nightclub and spending a few bucks to have a good time.

Hi everyone,

Your thoughtful discussion on responsible gambling hits home. It's a topic we take incredibly seriously at Chipstars. We are fully aware that the world of online casinos can be exhilarating for some, but a dangerous downward spiral for others if left unchecked.

Our priority has always been to provide an environment where our users can have a safe and enjoyable gaming experience. That's why we've implemented several measures to ensure our players stay in control and only play within their means. These include setting personal limits on deposits and losses, cooling-off periods, and self-exclusion options.

We want our platform to be a place of fun and excitement, not a source of harm or financial distress. For those who see gambling as a social activity, as @pawel7777 described, similar to a night out with friends, we strive to make Chipstars an inviting and engaging destination. But for anyone struggling with gambling addiction, we provide resources and support to help them regain control. However, the issue is getting them to ask for these tools, since we cannot restrict them without them or a family member asking for such a restriction.

Let's remember that gambling is a form of entertainment - a way to unwind and have some fun. It should never be a source of financial burden or a path to personal ruin. So let's enjoy the game, gamble responsibly, and make sure we're looking out for each other in this community.

If your close family or friends are struggling with gambling, it's important to do what you can to guide them to a path of recovery. Some online resources that can help:

• Gamblers Anonymous (www.gamblersanonymous.org) is a well-known organization that provides information, resources, and a 12-step recovery program.
• National Council on Problem Gambling (www.ncpgambling.org) provides a variety of resources, including a chat service and a helpline.
• Gambling Therapy (www.gamblingtherapy.org), which provides forums and support groups for individuals dealing with gambling addiction globally.

Play safe and responsibly!

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[pawel7777]

Chronic addicts will do anything to get money just to gamble once there is no other way to get the money, once there is no one they can trust to lend to, once there is nothing left to pawn or sell.

You reminded me of a story of a guy who had a small but profitable company with something like 10 employees but ruined it completely by taking money from the business account to fuel his gambling addiction. He killed his only source of income to chase some quick wins and a dopamine rush. Sad.

and gamble just for fun because I think going to casinos is fun. It's not something I do often, as my current financial situation doesn't allow it. But there's something about the casino environment that I find energizing, and it's not unlike going out to a nightclub and spending a few bucks to have a good time.

What's the most appealing part of going to a casino that is the most fun for you? Are you sure you're not a victim of casinos being purposely designed in the most flashy/energising way just to lure you in to separate you from your money? I'm sure you could find some other, more meaningful, and equally fun activities that do not involve losing your money to the house.

If your close family or friends are struggling with gambling, it's important to do what you can to guide them to a path of recovery. Some online resources that can help:

• Gamblers Anonymous (www.gamblersanonymous.org) is a well-known organization that provides information, resources, and a 12-step recovery program.
• National Council on Problem Gambling (www.ncpgambling.org) provides a variety of resources, including a chat service and a helpline.
• Gambling Therapy (www.gamblingtherapy.org), which provides forums and support groups for individuals dealing with gambling addiction globally.

Play safe and responsibly!

Thanks for sharing.

[carlisle1]

Gamblers who can't control themselves will keep playing until they really run out of money

If only. The ones with serious gambling addiction won't stop even at that. When they run out of money they'd often choose to go into debt, pawn their car or other items, borrow from family, or even steal from the close ones.
It's a serious condition and I find it hard to have any sort of respect for a business that would try to capitalise on that.

But if gamblers are more focused on having fun then any win will be considered a bonus because according to them satisfaction and pleasure are their main goals for playing gambling, the fact is that people like that don't care about experiencing any defeat as long as they can still control it, everything will definitely be fine.  

That's a different category, those who only visit casino during a night-out with friends are probably safe from any life-changing losses, but there are also a lot of people, often elderly pensioners, who visit casinos as they have no real alternatives for having "fun". That's pretty sad really.

Chronic addicts will do anything to get money just to gamble once there is no other way to get the money, once there is no one they can trust to lend to, once there is nothing left to pawn or sell. Crime will cross their mind, and without much thought and all they have on their mind is money to gamble. And I think there are a lot of cases like that and when they get caught, they will tell the results to give vent to their addiction.

and gamble just for fun because I think going to casinos is fun. It's not something I do often, as my current financial situation doesn't allow it. But there's something about the casino environment that I find energizing, and it's not unlike going out to a nightclub and spending a few bucks to have a good time.

Gambling for fun is more about self-control. If you know how to manage that emotions, then you are good to go
and you are not going to be prone to any addiction as you use the place to sort some entertainment.

Sad things are when you exceed and you let yourself being out of control and start losing patience and
lose your money.

Think ahead and balance your betting strategy. You should be more on the safe and wise side
where your money is located.

[pawel7777]

Gambling for fun is more about self-control. If you know how to manage that emotions, then you are good to go
and you are not going to be prone to any addiction as you use the place to sort some entertainment.

The question is, why would you choose this form of "fun" over infinite other options that do not require you to risk your assets at unfavorable odds?
If one has enough self-control, then you'd expect them to make sensible decisions, including the choice of activities they do for entertainment.
And if someone is engaging in gambling only when they spot an opportunity where they have a mathematical advantage - then they should approach it in a cold and calculated way rather than get carried away with emotions of "fun".

[Oasisman]

Gambling for fun is more about self-control. If you know how to manage that emotions, then you are good to go
and you are not going to be prone to any addiction as you use the place to sort some entertainment.

The question is, why would you choose this form of "fun" over infinite other options that do not require you to risk your assets at unfavorable odds?
If one has enough self-control, then you'd expect them to make sensible decisions, including the choice of activities they do for entertainment.
And if someone is engaging in gambling only when they spot an opportunity where they have a mathematical advantage - then they should approach it in a cold and calculated way rather than get carried away with emotions of "fun".

Well, the ability to earn money when you win is also a part of the "fun" in gambling. It does not only involve fun as an emotion because you're enjoying the game or the company, but fun because you're also earning. However, it's not gonna be literally fun either when you're losing.
People do actually have their own preferences of what "fun" could mean to them. It could be something risky or something safe and boring. Just like these people who have risks their lives to climb the highest mountains or dive the deepest sea because for them it's "fun". So, why these people choose this form of fun is never gonna be a question.
But getting carried away is not gonna be fun especially when you're losing LOL!

[Doan9269]

Gambling for fun is more about self-control. If you know how to manage that emotions, then you are good to go
and you are not going to be prone to any addiction as you use the place to sort some entertainment.

The question is, why would you choose this form of "fun" over infinite other options that do not require you to risk your assets at unfavorable odds?
If one has enough self-control, then you'd expect them to make sensible decisions, including the choice of activities they do for entertainment.
And if someone is engaging in gambling only when they spot an opportunity where they have a mathematical advantage - then they should approach it in a cold and calculated way rather than get carried away with emotions of "fun".

All these are happening because some gamblers were inexperienced enough or lack some personal strategies to use for gambling that could give them the required results needed.

When we are gambling, we are taking time to invest ourselves on having pleasurable moments provided that we are not too curious about winning when we gamble, but for the sake of those that depends on winning while gambling, they have a lot of task to do while becoming an expertise in gambling after they would have tried out many strategies to discover the one best for them.

[tusandii]

Sad things are when you exceed and you let yourself being out of control and start losing patience and
lose your money.

Having boundaries and controlling yourself and your finances is the hardest thing most gamblers have to do.
I myself sometimes still get out of control and spend more money just to continue the game session.
However, there are several steps that can be taken for prevention, namely by only depositing a limited amount of money into the casino with the aim that we don't lose excessive amounts of money when we lose.
It's better to play gambling when the mind is calm because this can help us not to get out of control and get carried away by emotions.

[nullama]

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Having boundaries and controlling yourself and your finances is the hardest thing most gamblers have to do.
I myself sometimes still get out of control and spend more money just to continue the game session.
However, there are several steps that can be taken for prevention, namely by only depositing a limited amount of money into the casino with the aim that we don't lose excessive amounts of money when we lose.
It's better to play gambling when the mind is calm because this can help us not to get out of control and get carried away by emotions.

It is an addiction after all.

Some people can't really handle any level of gambling, others can easily gamble a few times a year. Everyone is very different so you have to do whatever works for yourself.

Sometimes that works for one person doesn't work for the next one.

[carlisle1]

~snip~
Having boundaries and controlling yourself and your finances is the hardest thing most gamblers have to do.
I myself sometimes still get out of control and spend more money just to continue the game session.
However, there are several steps that can be taken for prevention, namely by only depositing a limited amount of money into the casino with the aim that we don't lose excessive amounts of money when we lose.
It's better to play gambling when the mind is calm because this can help us not to get out of control and get carried away by emotions.

It is an addiction after all.

Some people can't really handle any level of gambling, others can easily gamble a few times a year. Everyone is very different so you have to do whatever works for yourself.

Sometimes that works for one person doesn't work for the next one.

Nothing to say about that. Some may control while others don't. It applies to this situation, and in some cases, there are
gamblers who just play and go, and that's it.

While other thinks that with good mathematical calculations, they can create a strategy that will give them some edge and will allow
them to make some good amount of money out from the casino.

Copying your statement. Sometimes your strategy works for you, but it will not have the same outcome if others will use it.

[Beparanf]

While other thinks that with good mathematical calculations, they can create a strategy that will give them some edge and will allow
them to make some good amount of money out from the casino.

People that believe on this and play on games such as slot that is pure luck based game doesn’t make sense. There’s no way to come up with a calculations that can give someone an edge against casino that has a house edge on a luck based game. It’s either they are just using that calculation as an excuse to play more or they really just dumb to justify that there’s a way to have an edge against casino on luck based game.
                     
Casino games result se RNG. I think hackign the code is the only way to have a real advantage to the casino that is using RNG for the result. Betting strategy will just make user more organized and limit losses by making careless but strategy will never give an advantage or an edge against the casino.               

[Quidat]

~snip~
Having boundaries and controlling yourself and your finances is the hardest thing most gamblers have to do.
I myself sometimes still get out of control and spend more money just to continue the game session.
However, there are several steps that can be taken for prevention, namely by only depositing a limited amount of money into the casino with the aim that we don't lose excessive amounts of money when we lose.
It's better to play gambling when the mind is calm because this can help us not to get out of control and get carried away by emotions.

It is an addiction after all.

Some people can't really handle any level of gambling, others can easily gamble a few times a year. Everyone is very different so you have to do whatever works for yourself.

Sometimes that works for one person doesn't work for the next one.

Nothing to say about that. Some may control while others don't. It applies to this situation, and in some cases, there are
gamblers who just play and go, and that's it.

While other thinks that with good mathematical calculations, they can create a strategy that will give them some edge and will allow
them to make some good amount of money out from the casino.

Copying your statement. Sometimes your strategy works for you, but it will not have the same outcome if others will use it.

And this would be a never ending cycle on which there would be that someone who would really be that believing that these kind of strategies does really exist and believe that it would really be giving out advantage for them against the house without even trying to realize on how does reality works. Never ever consider that there's some strategy or ways on beating up the house or taking up advantage on having that sure win on gambling because this one cant really be that possible.For those people who do make out such claims then they are simply lying. It is how lucky you are is always the main reason on why someone do win up on gambling because its true that we might be using up on the same strategy but if you arent that lucky enough then you would definitely use.
You shouldnt really that instill into your mind that there's a working strategy because once you do have this kind of mindset then it would really be creating out that kind of impression and beliefs on
mind that might really be putting you up on big trouble on the time that you would trying out to push or pursue this one.

[pawel7777]

The question is, why would you choose this form of "fun" over infinite other options that do not require you to risk your assets at unfavorable odds?
If one has enough self-control, then you'd expect them to make sensible decisions, including the choice of activities they do for entertainment.
And if someone is engaging in gambling only when they spot an opportunity where they have a mathematical advantage - then they should approach it in a cold and calculated way rather than get carried away with emotions of "fun".

All these are happening because some gamblers were inexperienced enough or lack some personal strategies to use for gambling that could give them the required results needed.

When we are gambling, we are taking time to invest ourselves on having pleasurable moments provided that we are not too curious about winning when we gamble, but for the sake of those that depends on winning while gambling, they have a lot of task to do while becoming an expertise in gambling after they would have tried out many strategies to discover the one best for them.

You've quoted my post, but haven't really attempted to answer my question. Out of all the fun activities in the world, why would anyone choose gambling?
And you seem to be perpetuating a myth that "experience" in gambling converts to some better (or even profitable) strategies, when the truth is, for most people, the longer you play the more you lose.  So absolute gambling newbie at the start would have a better net profit/loss record than experienced gamblers.

[seleme]

The question is, why would you choose this form of "fun" over infinite other options that do not require you to risk your assets at unfavorable odds?
If one has enough self-control, then you'd expect them to make sensible decisions, including the choice of activities they do for entertainment.
And if someone is engaging in gambling only when they spot an opportunity where they have a mathematical advantage - then they should approach it in a cold and calculated way rather than get carried away with emotions of "fun".

All these are happening because some gamblers were inexperienced enough or lack some personal strategies to use for gambling that could give them the required results needed.

When we are gambling, we are taking time to invest ourselves on having pleasurable moments provided that we are not too curious about winning when we gamble, but for the sake of those that depends on winning while gambling, they have a lot of task to do while becoming an expertise in gambling after they would have tried out many strategies to discover the one best for them.

You've quoted my post, but haven't really attempted to answer my question. Out of all the fun activities in the world, why would anyone choose gambling?
And you seem to be perpetuating a myth that "experience" in gambling converts to some better (or even profitable) strategies, when the truth is, for most people, the longer you play the more you lose.  So absolute gambling newbie at the start would have a better net profit/loss record than experienced gamblers.

I will do my best to answer this question. The short answer is related to the money factor that makes it more fun for the average user, the experienced gamblers look for the dopamine effect after each game session to boost the potential enjoyment, IMHO. The profit/loss record depends on the bankroll, and experience but mostly it has relied on luck. If there were no luck and money factors, I doubt there should be left so many addicted gamblers. The reason we keep looking for mathematical advantage is because of our ego that can't accept losing in the long run but it is impossible to beat the house edge in the long run.

[masulum]

[You've quoted my post, but haven't really attempted to answer my question. Out of all the fun activities in the world, why would anyone choose gambling?[yonex

SEveryone has a different character, maybe p[/quotea trip to the beach is something that makes you feel fun. But, some people are bored with travel, work, play with family. Therefore, they seek pleasure by spending their money on gambling. Of course, for us people who gamble not for fun, it will be easier to get frustrated than those who can control their emotions. Why is it considered fun?
- Traditional casino makes a person meet people around who can become friends,
- Some online casinos have a chat feature between members, so gamblers can discuss any topic
- Play with luck

[borovichok]

While other thinks that with good mathematical calculations, they can create a strategy that will give them some edge and will allow
them to make some good amount of money out from the casino.

People do make a living from gambling, that's to portray how serious this people are. Comprehensive quantitative calculation will not ensure a safe path in gambling; there will be losses as well as rewards. We just have to accept the fact that loses and gains are generated on a regular basis, and our ultimate goal is to do our best to be on the winning side. Gamblers will constantly desire to win during their time in the gambling system, going so far as to nail every aspect of gaming without hesitation. Too many implausible ideas have been ruled out by fantasy.

[Blitzboy]

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And this would be a never ending cycle on which there would be that someone who would really be that believing that these kind of strategies does really exist and believe that it would really be giving out advantage for them against the house without even trying to realize on how does reality works. Never ever consider that there's some strategy or ways on beating up the house or taking up advantage on having that sure win on gambling because this one cant really be that possible.For those people who do make out such claims then they are simply lying. It is how lucky you are is always the main reason on why someone do win up on gambling because its true that we might be using up on the same strategy but if you arent that lucky enough then you would definitely use.
You shouldnt really that instill into your mind that there's a working strategy because once you do have this kind of mindset then it would really be creating out that kind of impression and beliefs on
mind that might really be putting you up on big trouble on the time that you would trying out to push or pursue this one.

The idea that one can consistently outsmart the casino is a hazardous myth. There is an inherent disadvantage for the player in every casino game. This indicates that the house has a statistical edge over the player at all times, no matter what tactics are used. Its possible for someone to have temporary success, but this is more likely the result of chance than of any deliberate plan. Keep in mind that casinos are simply companies. If there were a guaranteed way to win at the casino, nobody would be gambling there. Those who profess to have a foolproof plan are either completely wrong or being dishonest. Avoiding this train of thought is of paramount importance. Gambling is meant to be fun, not a means to an end (making money). Play only with money you can afford to lose, and do not risk more than you can afford.

[piebeyb]

While other thinks that with good mathematical calculations, they can create a strategy that will give them some edge and will allow
them to make some good amount of money out from the casino.

People do make a living from gambling, that's to portray how serious this people are. Comprehensive quantitative calculation will not ensure a safe path in gambling; there will be losses as well as rewards. We just have to accept the fact that loses and gains are generated on a regular basis, and our ultimate goal is to do our best to be on the winning side. Gamblers will constantly desire to win during their time in the gambling system, going so far as to nail every aspect of gaming without hesitation. Too many implausible ideas have been ruled out by fantasy.

Yes, people who are looking for income from gambling always think mathematically and are always looking for any strategy to beat the bookie, no matter how many strategies and scenarios fail to be able to win against the bookie, thinking about whether it is possible for the bookie to let someone win big from their site and whether There has been a history that casinos went bankrupt because someone won big money there.

I think it's hard to find history about it, the fact is that the dealer will always win even though we are good at calculating mathematically and coming up with any strategy, the key is only in how we control ourselves and set our mindset in playing gambling no matter what strategy will be used or produced in trials .

[Fredomago]

Yes, people who are looking for income from gambling always think mathematically and are always looking for any strategy to beat the bookie, no matter how many strategies and scenarios fail to be able to win against the bookie, thinking about whether it is possible for the bookie to let someone win big from their site and whether There has been a history that casinos went bankrupt because someone won big money there.

I think it's hard to find history about it, the fact is that the dealer will always win even though we are good at calculating mathematically and coming up with any strategy, the key is only in how we control ourselves and set our mindset in playing gambling no matter what strategy will be used or produced in trials .

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Just be precise and keep on the strategy and patterns. In some way, you might win and not to allow greed inside you. Something that may give you a small chance of making your intention to be fulfill, but the most important thing is, never to be aggressive as it will lead you to lose a lot since you'll always chased all your losses and possible for you to keep depositing to try recovering your money.

The fact that the house always has the edge against you, and without good control you might lose more and worse, you might lose all your savings

[pawel7777]

SEveryone has a different character, maybe p[/quotea trip to the beach is something that makes you feel fun. But, some people are bored with travel, work, play with family. Therefore, they seek pleasure by spending their money on gambling. Of course, for us people who gamble not for fun, it will be easier to get frustrated than those who can control their emotions. Why is it considered fun?
- Traditional casino makes a person meet people around who can become friends,
- Some online casinos have a chat feature between members, so gamblers can discuss any topic
- Play with luck

People have different ideas of fun and different preferences, fair enough. But we can also say that certain activities are objectively stupid to do. And I think that chasing a dopamine rush by risking your hard-earned money at odds that are not favorable to you is one of those things.

As for social interactions and making friends - that's not exclusive to gambling, there are plenty of activities where social interactions are at the core, rather than being a possible side-effect of you getting ripped off by the casino.

[nullama]

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Yes, people who are looking for income from gambling always think mathematically and are always looking for any strategy to beat the bookie, no matter how many strategies and scenarios fail to be able to win against the bookie, thinking about whether it is possible for the bookie to let someone win big from their site and whether There has been a history that casinos went bankrupt because someone won big money there.

I think it's hard to find history about it, the fact is that the dealer will always win even though we are good at calculating mathematically and coming up with any strategy, the key is only in how we control ourselves and set our mindset in playing gambling no matter what strategy will be used or produced in trials .

I don't think they always think mathematically, because if you do it, then you'll realize gambling has a negative expected return.

Basically, you will lose all your betting money eventually if you continue playing because the casino has advantage in the odds.

The only way to continue playing has to be non-mathematical, like emotional for example.