[Boxing] Devin Haney vs Vasiliy Lomachenco - May 20

[Baofeng]

This fight will be very spectacular,but I will still give preference to Vasily because the speed of his work in the ring is impressive,he is so fast and technical fighter.I don't always have time to keep track of his legs,it's not even worth talking about his hands.I think Loma will win on points and the fight will be all 12 rounds.

Yeah may likely or Haney will win via decision too, I don't expect any knock out here because Loma has an iron chin while Haney know to dodge and not received too much punches. I just hope Loma would be 100% healthy during the fight because when he was fight with Lopez, Loma is really not doing anything on the first 6 rounds and it make the judges give more points on Lopez.

And Haney is pillow fisted as well that's why his knockout record is not that good. He put the fight in a hard and grind full 12 rounds. But I think Loma can survived that and maybe he can land some good punches on Haney and tested that chin. Haney has a good defense but I'm seeing with Loma's being a good in fighting technical fighters, he might break that defense of Haney. So still going to be close although the way I look at it, Haney could be the favorite because of Loma's last performance against Ortiz.

Yes, there could be moments that Loma might hit Haney direct to the chin and we will see how Haney will react. It's not the first time for Haney, he has fought fighters like Jorge Linares that caught and hit him square and he almost goes down. But he has this instinct to huge his opponents. So if he ever tasted that power of Loma, he will do the same for sure to survived that round. He has also this ability to recuperate very quick. So really great to see this fight because of the styles of the two and their advantage and disadvantage.

Certainly the reasons why this fight is one of the few most awaited fights as this will be a battle of brains and technicalities, not sure who will win though but I don't doubt that we will witness a good match but I can't lie that I think that Haney will have a good advantage over Loma because judging both of their recent fights, Loma is not that fast and good anymore. Or maybe he's just adjusting from a long inactivity, what do you think?

Yeah, it could go 50/50 or someone will really dominate the fight. So if Loma is bad in the last fight and then Haney continue his super showing, then it could be Haney winning in the scorecard because of his advantage in height and reach. But if Loma suddenly found his rhythm that Devin can't solve him, then I think Loma will take this win. And with that, gonna be hard to predict. But as fans, we love to see this kind of technical fights and maybe we can say it's the battle of new and the old champion who is trying to prove himself that he can become a champion.

Both risky, especially for Loma's situation because I'm wondering what will happen to Loma's career if he gets defeated here versus Haney (which is expected by most of the avid boxing fans) as I'm almost certain that he will become a stepping stone and a prize for some boxers in the lower bracket because they know that defeating Loma will increase their credibility. But who knows, right? Loma might've found his rhythm this time, much different from what he showed in his recent fight.

Probably he can still go and fight the left overs of Haney and see how it goes. If he still losses then most likely he is already on a decline, he is 34 years old and not getting young. So this fight is a decisive factor, but he is willing to take that risk so probably he knows that he can still fight and really reach his ultimate goal of becoming a unified champion. And his credibility will obviously go up again and he will be the man to beat. But who knows, a rematch might be needed here before we can clearly see who won between this two great boxers.

[Distinctin]

This fight will be very spectacular,but I will still give preference to Vasily because the speed of his work in the ring is impressive,he is so fast and technical fighter.I don't always have time to keep track of his legs,it's not even worth talking about his hands.I think Loma will win on points and the fight will be all 12 rounds.

Yeah may likely or Haney will win via decision too, I don't expect any knock out here because Loma has an iron chin while Haney know to dodge and not received too much punches. I just hope Loma would be 100% healthy during the fight because when he was fight with Lopez, Loma is really not doing anything on the first 6 rounds and it make the judges give more points on Lopez.

And Haney is pillow fisted as well that's why his knockout record is not that good. He put the fight in a hard and grind full 12 rounds. But I think Loma can survived that and maybe he can land some good punches on Haney and tested that chin. Haney has a good defense but I'm seeing with Loma's being a good in fighting technical fighters, he might break that defense of Haney. So still going to be close although the way I look at it, Haney could be the favorite because of Loma's last performance against Ortiz.

Yes, there could be moments that Loma might hit Haney direct to the chin and we will see how Haney will react. It's not the first time for Haney, he has fought fighters like Jorge Linares that caught and hit him square and he almost goes down. But he has this instinct to huge his opponents. So if he ever tasted that power of Loma, he will do the same for sure to survived that round. He has also this ability to recuperate very quick. So really great to see this fight because of the styles of the two and their advantage and disadvantage.

Certainly the reasons why this fight is one of the few most awaited fights as this will be a battle of brains and technicalities, not sure who will win though but I don't doubt that we will witness a good match but I can't lie that I think that Haney will have a good advantage over Loma because judging both of their recent fights, Loma is not that fast and good anymore. Or maybe he's just adjusting from a long inactivity, what do you think?

Yeah, it could go 50/50 or someone will really dominate the fight. So if Loma is bad in the last fight and then Haney continue his super showing, then it could be Haney winning in the scorecard because of his advantage in height and reach. But if Loma suddenly found his rhythm that Devin can't solve him, then I think Loma will take this win. And with that, gonna be hard to predict. But as fans, we love to see this kind of technical fights and maybe we can say it's the battle of new and the old champion who is trying to prove himself that he can become a champion.

Both risky, especially for Loma's situation because I'm wondering what will happen to Loma's career if he gets defeated here versus Haney (which is expected by most of the avid boxing fans) as I'm almost certain that he will become a stepping stone and a prize for some boxers in the lower bracket because they know that defeating Loma will increase their credibility. But who knows, right? Loma might've found his rhythm this time, much different from what he showed in his recent fight.

Probably he can still go and fight the left overs of Haney and see how it goes. If he still losses then most likely he is already on a decline, he is 34 years old and not getting young. So this fight is a decisive factor, but he is willing to take that risk so probably he knows that he can still fight and really reach his ultimate goal of becoming a unified champion. And his credibility will obviously go up again and he will be the man to beat. But who knows, a rematch might be needed here before we can clearly see who won between this two great boxers.

Yes, that might be the case this time where there's a rematch clause because I'm sure that Loma have his own regrets that a rematch didn't happen last time when he fought with Teo Lopez because there's no assurance that they could chase the latter because a clause wasn't written on their contract. Moreover, I'm sure Devin Haney's camp will agree with it as well because they currently have all belts and it's risky for them.

[BitcoinPanther]

There are some rumors circulating that it is possible that the fight deal won't realized because Haney had found way to evade Lomachenko by asking higher percentage income on the fight.  If we can recall Haney had demanded some advantage on the split and Lomachenko camp agreed.  Now Haney is asking for another raise of percentage and the camp of Lomachenko hasn't replied yet.

[Jating]

There are some rumors circulating that it is possible that the fight deal won't realized because Haney had found way to evade Lomachenko by asking higher percentage income on the fight.  If we can recall Haney had demanded some advantage on the split and Lomachenko camp agreed.  Now Haney is asking for another raise of percentage and the camp of Lomachenko hasn't replied yet.

That will be bad though if we fans are not going to see this fight as we have been somewhat giving hope that this fight is 99% done by Top Rank. But in any case, it should be Arum to give the demands here. I remember that Hatton and Pacquiao fight, it was also stalled because Hatton wanted more money. And according to Bob Arum, the extra $1 million that Hatton wanted was given to him in his own pocket.

Anyhow, hopefully they can make a concessions here so that we won't missed another great fight for this year. Arum better be work this out, and give what these boxers deserved or wanted to make a deal.

[Baofeng]

There are some rumors circulating that it is possible that the fight deal won't realized because Haney had found way to evade Lomachenko by asking higher percentage income on the fight.  If we can recall Haney had demanded some advantage on the split and Lomachenko camp agreed.  Now Haney is asking for another raise of percentage and the camp of Lomachenko hasn't replied yet.

This is the news about this:

Mike Coppinger of ESPN reports that undisputed lightweight champion Haney (29-0, 15 KOs) was “concessions” from the former three-division world champion Lomachenko (17-2, 11 KOs) in terms of money to make the fight happen for May 20th. That being the case, the 34-year-old Lomachenko will need to give up some of the money to Haney that he was hoping to get for the fight if he wants the opportunity to challenge for his four belts.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/devin-haney-wants-concessions-from-vasyl-lomachenko-negotiations-stalled/

Yeah, it will be a problem for Arum if the camp of Haney is insisting for more money and this could be the start of a strain between him and the Haney's specially if he doesn't want to give in to the demands.

Hopefully the demand in money is that the big too, and yeah, maybe Top Rank can shoulder it, instead of seeing this fighting collapses in front of us.

Haney might have the right to demand more as he is the unified champion.

[LUCKMCFLY]

And don't forget that bookies aren't there to giveaway free money, their main goal is to collect money, so it's safe to say that these bookies are just misleading us. Still it's understandable and reasonable to see that Devin Haney has been favored as the favorite in the bookies list, factors are too many to mention and some are based on their recent performance which dictates that Haney indeed got the upper hand compared to Loma.

We must remember the main goal of sportbooks is not to give precise odds but to make money, generating precise odds is just a means to an end, and while Haney should be favored, sportbooks could give even higher odds for Haney to win by virtue of knowing the fans most of the time make bets on the favorite and it is on their interest to take advantage of those tendencies.

And while Lomachenko is a great fighter the advantage Haney has in height, reach and age may be too much for Lomachenko to overcome.

I think you mean Lomachenko who will get more higher odds to win to make the bettors more confused and lure them to a trap to bet into the underdog knowing that most of the time, bettors are always betting for the favorite to minimize risk. In this case, Haney will indeed be getting the label of favorite by the sports bookies because they won't be labeling him as underdog because bettors will surely take advantage of it.

Yes, for some reason they give Haney a more favorite than Loma, however I have seen Loma's last fights and wow he has given a demonstration of being a boxer who is at a very high level, who is ready to knock out anyone, and Haney must not be seen as a boxer who cannot be reached and cannot be beaten, of course he can be beaten, but since many forum members in some hot boxing topics in very specific forums give great support To Haney, of course, they put everything they can give into context, and I know that in those forums there are boxers who have practiced the sport in an amateur way and who know a lot.


More info:

Devin Haney vs Vasiliy Lomachenko: Undisputed fight info emerges

Devin Haney and Vasiliy Lomachenko are on a collision course for May 20 after details emerge about an undisputed lightweight battle.

Haney is set to put his clutch of belts on the line against the formidable Ukrainian as part of an agreement with Top Rank.

Bob Arum negotiated a three-fight contract with Haney involving a double with George Kambosos Jr., who at the time was reigning three-title champion.

Source: https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/02/01/devin-haney-vasiliy-lomachenko-undisputed-info/

[btc_angela]

There are some rumors circulating that it is possible that the fight deal won't realized because Haney had found way to evade Lomachenko by asking higher percentage income on the fight.  If we can recall Haney had demanded some advantage on the split and Lomachenko camp agreed.  Now Haney is asking for another raise of percentage and the camp of Lomachenko hasn't replied yet.

This is the news about this:

Mike Coppinger of ESPN reports that undisputed lightweight champion Haney (29-0, 15 KOs) was “concessions” from the former three-division world champion Lomachenko (17-2, 11 KOs) in terms of money to make the fight happen for May 20th. That being the case, the 34-year-old Lomachenko will need to give up some of the money to Haney that he was hoping to get for the fight if he wants the opportunity to challenge for his four belts.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/devin-haney-wants-concessions-from-vasyl-lomachenko-negotiations-stalled/

Yeah, it will be a problem for Arum if the camp of Haney is insisting for more money and this could be the start of a strain between him and the Haney's specially if he doesn't want to give in to the demands.

Hopefully the demand in money is that the big too, and yeah, maybe Top Rank can shoulder it, instead of seeing this fighting collapses in front of us.

Haney might have the right to demand more as he is the unified champion.

Oh, this is another road block, not sure who is to blame if the fight is not going to happen because I do agree that as a unified champion, Haney has every right for higher purse. But on the other hand, Loma is big name as well and could be the one bringing more fans in the building for this fight.

So he might not agree even for a 60/40 split in favor of Haney. Maybe Bob Arum can weave his magic since both of this fighters are under his banner.

Let's wait we still have months for this negotiations to settle.

[lionheart78]

Oh, this is another road block, not sure who is to blame if the fight is not going to happen because I do agree that as a unified champion, Haney has every right for higher purse. But on the other hand, Loma is big name as well and could be the one bringing more fans in the building for this fight.

It is clear who is to blame if this fight didn't happen.  For me, I am to blame the greed of the promoter of Haney's camp since they are the ones demanding more.  It is somehow reasonable though since Haney has all the belts and is the one to have everything to lose,( the belt and the untarnished record) but of course, he also have lots to gain by beating Lomachenco, better than having the title on his hands because he will be winning a legacy for his name.

So he might not agree even for a 60/40 split in favor of Haney. Maybe Bob Arum can weave his magic since both of this fighters are under his banner.

Let's wait we still have months for this negotiations to settle.

I hope Arum can influence Haney's camp to not demand too much in extent for the fight to become impossible. 

[btc_angela]

Oh, this is another road block, not sure who is to blame if the fight is not going to happen because I do agree that as a unified champion, Haney has every right for higher purse. But on the other hand, Loma is big name as well and could be the one bringing more fans in the building for this fight.

It is clear who is to blame if this fight didn't happen.  For me, I am to blame the greed of the promoter of Haney's camp since they are the ones demanding more.  It is somehow reasonable though since Haney has all the belts and is the one to have everything to lose,( the belt and the untarnished record) but of course, he also have lots to gain by beating Lomachenco, better than having the title on his hands because he will be winning a legacy for his name.

So he might not agree even for a 60/40 split in favor of Haney. Maybe Bob Arum can weave his magic since both of this fighters are under his banner.

Let's wait we still have months for this negotiations to settle.

I hope Arum can influence Haney's camp to not demand too much in extent for the fight to become impossible. 

As far as I know both are in the banner of Top Rank, so definitely there Bob Arum can talk to both parties and settle their business so that the fight could still be stage because everyone of us here are waiting for this fight.

Legacy wise, he already achieved a undisputed title at a very young age, and he can still accomplished more as he has plans to move up in weight to 140 lbs or even 147 lbs for all we know. So a lot of fights for Haney to get his name on top.

[bisdak40]

There are some rumors circulating that it is possible that the fight deal won't realized because Haney had found way to evade Lomachenko by asking higher percentage income on the fight.  If we can recall Haney had demanded some advantage on the split and Lomachenko camp agreed.  Now Haney is asking for another raise of percentage and the camp of Lomachenko hasn't replied yet.

This is the news about this:

Mike Coppinger of ESPN reports that undisputed lightweight champion Haney (29-0, 15 KOs) was “concessions” from the former three-division world champion Lomachenko (17-2, 11 KOs) in terms of money to make the fight happen for May 20th. That being the case, the 34-year-old Lomachenko will need to give up some of the money to Haney that he was hoping to get for the fight if he wants the opportunity to challenge for his four belts.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/devin-haney-wants-concessions-from-vasyl-lomachenko-negotiations-stalled/

Yeah, it will be a problem for Arum if the camp of Haney is insisting for more money and this could be the start of a strain between him and the Haney's specially if he doesn't want to give in to the demands.

Hopefully the demand in money is that the big too, and yeah, maybe Top Rank can shoulder it, instead of seeing this fighting collapses in front of us.

Haney might have the right to demand more as he is the unified champion.

Oh, this is another road block, not sure who is to blame if the fight is not going to happen because I do agree that as a unified champion, Haney has every right for higher purse. But on the other hand, Loma is big name as well and could be the one bringing more fans in the building for this fight.

So he might not agree even for a 60/40 split in favor of Haney. Maybe Bob Arum can weave his magic since both of this fighters are under his banner.

Let's wait we still have months for this negotiations to settle.

I think no one's to blame here but Haney is just playing his card wisely, i mean he don't need Loma at this moment of his career as he has all the belts in this division but an ordinary fan will view this as a cowardly-act by the champion. Loma on his part, i think will concede to what Haney want for this fight to materialize and i think Loma also give up some money on his fight with Lopez (correct me if i'm wrong) so he is not new to this scenario.

[LUCKMCFLY]

And don't forget that bookies aren't there to giveaway free money, their main goal is to collect money, so it's safe to say that these bookies are just misleading us. Still it's understandable and reasonable to see that Devin Haney has been favored as the favorite in the bookies list, factors are too many to mention and some are based on their recent performance which dictates that Haney indeed got the upper hand compared to Loma.

We must remember the main goal of sportbooks is not to give precise odds but to make money, generating precise odds is just a means to an end, and while Haney should be favored, sportbooks could give even higher odds for Haney to win by virtue of knowing the fans most of the time make bets on the favorite and it is on their interest to take advantage of those tendencies.

And while Lomachenko is a great fighter the advantage Haney has in height, reach and age may be too much for Lomachenko to overcome.

I think you mean Lomachenko who will get more higher odds to win to make the bettors more confused and lure them to a trap to bet into the underdog knowing that most of the time, bettors are always betting for the favorite to minimize risk. In this case, Haney will indeed be getting the label of favorite by the sports bookies because they won't be labeling him as underdog because bettors will surely take advantage of it.

Well, we all know that here, Loma is one of the most controversial boxers that exists, if we have a boxer like Haney, as they are presenting him everywhere, he is the favorite. I think there are already some forecasts that say that Haney will come as the winner, for now What many are thinking is that if Loma will do something for May 20, maybe a more intense training, because surely he himself has this information that we have access to and with more specifications, more precise information and, in fact, when this happens can cause even more "bite" so the boxer does not like to talk as if he were very weak before him.



Speculations grow regarding this fight:

Eddie Hearn Siding With Devin Haney: “He’ll Beat Lomachenko Handily”

It was a bittersweet moment for Eddie Hearn as he watched Devin Haney go on to become an undisputed champion at 135 pounds. After years of promoting the talented 24-year-old, Hearn was somewhat frustrated as he was forced out of the picture.

In a bid to aggregate every lightweight world title, Haney ditched DAZN, the media outlet which he was originally fighting under, to chase his undisputed dreams on ESPN against George Kambosos Jr.

Although he stepped into the unknown cautiously, Haney would go on to prove that his decision was a sagacious one, as he registered back-to-back victories over the Australian native. Now, with his undisputed crown dangling over his brow, Haney is ready to solidify himself as the man to beat.

Currently, the Las Vegas, native is attempting to hammer out a deal that would see him take on former lightweight kingpin, Vasiliy Lomachenko. At one point, Hearn, having watched the slick-hitting Ukrainian dissect countless foes over the years, believed that the former two-time Olympic gold medalist was essentially unbeatable. Fast forward to today, however, and Hearn is now singing a different tune as he believes that Haney will be too much on the night of their fight.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/eddie-hearn-siding-with-devin-haney-hell-beat-lomachenko-handily--172222

[Distinctin]

Speculations grow regarding this fight:
Eddie Hearn Siding With Devin Haney: “He’ll Beat Lomachenko Handily”

Eddie Hearn is playing the crowd favorite, well, he has his own judgment, then be it. But as for me, I'm a believer in Lomachenco, so regardless of the betting odds or even if he is the underdog, I still have my confidence in him to show the world that he is still in his prime.

Also, Eddie Hearn sharing which side he is rooting for will only attract more bettors on Haney, which is good for the odds of Loma.

[Baofeng]

Speculations grow regarding this fight:
Eddie Hearn Siding With Devin Haney: “He’ll Beat Lomachenko Handily”

Eddie Hearn is playing the crowd favorite, well, he has his own judgment, then be it. But as for me, I'm a believer in Lomachenco, so regardless of the betting odds or even if he is the underdog, I still have my confidence in him to show the world that he is still in his prime.

Also, Eddie Hearn sharing which side he is rooting for will only attract more bettors on Haney, which is good for the odds of Loma.

Or maybe he has his own agenda on siding with Haney, he might want to sign him after his contract with Top Rank. Eddie Hearn has somewhat taking over the US boxing promotional scene, just like when he got Canelo and he even hinting of courting Tank Davis and offering him $10 million a fight if my memory serves me right.

So yeah, I would take everything with a grain of salt, not just Hearn but any other promoter for siding in a boxing fight.

They have their own agenda, that is already a given fact.

[Shamm]

Eddie Hearn is playing the crowd favorite, well, he has his own judgment, then be it. But as for me, I'm a believer in Lomachenco, so regardless of the betting odds or even if he is the underdog, I still have my confidence in him to show the world that he is still in his prime
Also, Eddie Hearn sharing which side he is rooting for will only attract more bettors on Haney, which is good for the odds of Loma.

We are the same mate like you I'll still believe in Vasiliy Lomachenco to be a winner in this fight even though his opponent is very strong but still Lomachenco can defeat him I think. And yes he is the underdog here cause we all know how his opponents control the crowd and without a doubt he is totally a strong fighter as well as we all know how he fight and his performance in his last fight we all know that he gave his very bet

[Japinat]

There are some rumors circulating that it is possible that the fight deal won't realized because Haney had found way to evade Lomachenko by asking higher percentage income on the fight.  If we can recall Haney had demanded some advantage on the split and Lomachenko camp agreed.  Now Haney is asking for another raise of percentage and the camp of Lomachenko hasn't replied yet.

This is the news about this:

Mike Coppinger of ESPN reports that undisputed lightweight champion Haney (29-0, 15 KOs) was “concessions” from the former three-division world champion Lomachenko (17-2, 11 KOs) in terms of money to make the fight happen for May 20th. That being the case, the 34-year-old Lomachenko will need to give up some of the money to Haney that he was hoping to get for the fight if he wants the opportunity to challenge for his four belts.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/devin-haney-wants-concessions-from-vasyl-lomachenko-negotiations-stalled/

Yeah, it will be a problem for Arum if the camp of Haney is insisting for more money and this could be the start of a strain between him and the Haney's specially if he doesn't want to give in to the demands.

Hopefully the demand in money is that the big too, and yeah, maybe Top Rank can shoulder it, instead of seeing this fighting collapses in front of us.

Haney might have the right to demand more as he is the unified champion.

Haney indeed have every right to demand on the table because he is the unified champion and Loma's camp should adjust to it because they are the ones who are chasing Haney and not the other way around. But yes, that's a problem though because Haney's camp is keeping up with the demands just to make the fight happen and if it's not dealt right away, then I guess this bout is a no-go.

If I remember it correctly, Haney's first choice of opponent is Shakur Stevenson and not Lomachenko. There's no pressure for the unified champion here because he is not yet due for a mandatory fight. So that leaves, Bob Arum and Loma's camp if they are willing to compensate about it.

[serjent05]

Haney indeed have every right to demand on the table because he is the unified champion and Loma's camp should adjust to it because they are the ones who are chasing Haney and not the other way around. But yes, that's a problem though because Haney's camp is keeping up with the demands just to make the fight happen and if it's not dealt right away, then I guess this bout is a no-go.

True it is Haney that holds all the belt while Loma had nothing but a reputation.  I also agree that Lomachenko should be the one adjusting but Haney shouldn't push his demand too far to the point that he is eating too much % of the income.

If I remember it correctly, Haney's first choice of opponent is Shakur Stevenson and not Lomachenko. There's no pressure for the unified champion here because he is not yet due for a mandatory fight. So that leaves, Bob Arum and Loma's camp if they are willing to compensate about it.

But I read an article stating that DEvin Hany doesn't want Shakur Stevenson fight .  It said that Haney will vacate the title and move up to 140lbs after the Loma - Haney fight.[1]

By Sam Volz: Keyshawn Davis says Devin Haney will vacate his lightweight titles and move up to 140 after he faces Vasyl Lomachenko in May rather than stay at 135 to face Shakur Stevenson.

[1] https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/devin-haney-doesnt-want-shakur-stevenson-fight-says-keyshawn-davis/

[Japinat]

Haney indeed have every right to demand on the table because he is the unified champion and Loma's camp should adjust to it because they are the ones who are chasing Haney and not the other way around. But yes, that's a problem though because Haney's camp is keeping up with the demands just to make the fight happen and if it's not dealt right away, then I guess this bout is a no-go.

True it is Haney that holds all the belt while Loma had nothing but a reputation.  I also agree that Lomachenko should be the one adjusting but Haney shouldn't push his demand too far to the point that he is eating too much % of the income.

If I remember it correctly, Haney's first choice of opponent is Shakur Stevenson and not Lomachenko. There's no pressure for the unified champion here because he is not yet due for a mandatory fight. So that leaves, Bob Arum and Loma's camp if they are willing to compensate about it.

But I read an article stating that DEvin Hany doesn't want Shakur Stevenson fight .  It said that Haney will vacate the title and move up to 140lbs after the Loma - Haney fight.[1]

By Sam Volz: Keyshawn Davis says Devin Haney will vacate his lightweight titles and move up to 140 after he faces Vasyl Lomachenko in May rather than stay at 135 to face Shakur Stevenson.

[1] https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/devin-haney-doesnt-want-shakur-stevenson-fight-says-keyshawn-davis/

Really? Thanks for sharing that information mate. Now that's odd and makes things more confusing because I did really read that Haney wanted to settle a bout with Shakur and not with Loma. And somehow it made some sense why Haney's camp is keeping up on the demands, because he is planning to vacate the belt after the bout and will climb towards the next weight class. If so, I guess we will see Ryan Garcia-Gervonta Davis-Shakur Stevenson battling on the vacated belt.

[LUCKMCFLY]

This fight will be very spectacular,but I will still give preference to Vasily because the speed of his work in the ring is impressive,he is so fast and technical fighter.I don't always have time to keep track of his legs,it's not even worth talking about his hands.I think Loma will win on points and the fight will be all 12 rounds.

Yeah may likely or Haney will win via decision too, I don't expect any knock out here because Loma has an iron chin while Haney know to dodge and not received too much punches. I just hope Loma would be 100% healthy during the fight because when he was fight with Lopez, Loma is really not doing anything on the first 6 rounds and it make the judges give more points on Lopez.

And Haney is pillow fisted as well that's why his knockout record is not that good. He put the fight in a hard and grind full 12 rounds. But I think Loma can survived that and maybe he can land some good punches on Haney and tested that chin. Haney has a good defense but I'm seeing with Loma's being a good in fighting technical fighters, he might break that defense of Haney. So still going to be close although the way I look at it, Haney could be the favorite because of Loma's last performance against Ortiz.

Yes, there could be moments that Loma might hit Haney direct to the chin and we will see how Haney will react. It's not the first time for Haney, he has fought fighters like Jorge Linares that caught and hit him square and he almost goes down. But he has this instinct to huge his opponents. So if he ever tasted that power of Loma, he will do the same for sure to survived that round. He has also this ability to recuperate very quick. So really great to see this fight because of the styles of the two and their advantage and disadvantage.

Certainly the reasons why this fight is one of the few most awaited fights as this will be a battle of brains and technicalities, not sure who will win though but I don't doubt that we will witness a good match but I can't lie that I think that Haney will have a good advantage over Loma because judging both of their recent fights, Loma is not that fast and good anymore. Or maybe he's just adjusting from a long inactivity, what do you think?

Yeah, it could go 50/50 or someone will really dominate the fight. So if Loma is bad in the last fight and then Haney continue his super showing, then it could be Haney winning in the scorecard because of his advantage in height and reach. But if Loma suddenly found his rhythm that Devin can't solve him, then I think Loma will take this win. And with that, gonna be hard to predict. But as fans, we love to see this kind of technical fights and maybe we can say it's the battle of new and the old champion who is trying to prove himself that he can become a champion.

Both risky, especially for Loma's situation because I'm wondering what will happen to Loma's career if he gets defeated here versus Haney (which is expected by most of the avid boxing fans) as I'm almost certain that he will become a stepping stone and a prize for some boxers in the lower bracket because they know that defeating Loma will increase their credibility. But who knows, right? Loma might've found his rhythm this time, much different from what he showed in his recent fight.

Probably he can still go and fight the left overs of Haney and see how it goes. If he still losses then most likely he is already on a decline, he is 34 years old and not getting young. So this fight is a decisive factor, but he is willing to take that risk so probably he knows that he can still fight and really reach his ultimate goal of becoming a unified champion. And his credibility will obviously go up again and he will be the man to beat. But who knows, a rematch might be needed here before we can clearly see who won between this two great boxers.

Yes, that might be the case this time where there's a rematch clause because I'm sure that Loma have his own regrets that a rematch didn't happen last time when he fought with Teo Lopez because there's no assurance that they could chase the latter because a clause wasn't written on their contract. Moreover, I'm sure Devin Haney's camp will agree with it as well because they currently have all belts and it's risky for them.

Well that is something that they must always comply with, when there is a clause of those they should be executed as quickly as possible, why? to avoid possible fights, that if he wants it or if the other boxer doesn't want it, then this type of thing sometimes happens, if there is a clause they should comply with it in the shortest possible time, and if both boxers do not want a rematch, it is the only way that it cannot be executed, but to avoid all this it is better that things be done that way, so they will save a lot of effort and things so that they can distract other possible fights, and with that they do not divert attention to other possible fights.

Shakur Stevenson says Devin Haney has no choice but fight him or vacate in 2023

By Dan Ambrose: Shakur Stevenson says Devin Haney will have no choice but to defend against him or Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis or vacate his undisputed lightweight championship this year if he successfully gets past Vasyl Lomachenko on May 20th. Without Top Rank forcing the issue, it’s questionable whether Haney will agree to fight Stevenson. More than likely, Haney will balk and want an easier option. Stevenson (19-0, 9 KOs) points out that Devin’s father, Bill Haney, said recently that they’re staying at 135 for all of 2023, and anyone who wants the four lightweight belts, they’ll have to go through them.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/02/shakur-stevenson-says-devin-haney-has-no-choice-but-fight-him-or-vacate-in-2023/

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Shakur Stevenson says Devin Haney has no choice but fight him or vacate in 2023

It's too early to talk about this, I think Haney should beat Lomachenco in his upcoming fight, and let's see if Shakur and Hane's fight is going to happen. Loma is not going to give this fight easily to Haney, in fact, I believe that Loma has a good chance of beating Haney if he can use his accuracy. I mean, Loma is still here, he can fight and could win, so why are people underestimating him?

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Shakur Stevenson says Devin Haney has no choice but fight him or vacate in 2023

It's too early to talk about this, I think Haney should beat Lomachenco in his upcoming fight, and let's see if Shakur and Hane's fight is going to happen. Loma is not going to give this fight easily to Haney, in fact, I believe that Loma has a good chance of beating Haney if he can use his accuracy. I mean, Loma is still here, he can fight and could win, so why are people underestimating him?

I'm also surprised that some are assuming that Haney is coming out as the certain winner of this battle. It is as if Haney is fighting against somebody who is not a good boxer. Will Haney surely win this fight? I don't think so. Perhaps they're only looking at physical stats or age or some numbers that Haney has higher or more than Loma, but Loma has not lost everything yet. He is still quick and athletic. He could actually defeat Haney. Somebody should remind Shakur of this.